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Archive 10-29-2007 11:49 AM

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Here we are looking through our cards on a Sunday afternoon and waiting for game 4 of the World Series to start. What's the best way of displaying your vintage sets? I always have problems with the graded cards because some of my cards are in PSA holders, some are in SGC holders, and some are ungraded in clear slabs.<br /><br />The red in the PSA holders clash with the green in the SGC holders which also clashes with my clear slabs. So what's the best way to display these sets?<br /><br />Peter C.

Archive 10-29-2007 11:57 AM

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Or do thoughts just tumble out like a giant gumball machine? <br /><br />Can we cut down on the inane posts, please?

Archive 10-29-2007 12:07 PM

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Posted By: <b>Al Simeone</b><p>I will let everyone else answer that Question!<br />Leon Please an email to peter and Lock # 2 for the day!<br />And dont forget to check the memorabilia side!<br />GONORRHEA can spread Quickly!!!

Archive 10-29-2007 12:20 PM

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Posted By: <b>Rob Dewolf</b><p>That's funny, Al, because ever since I noticed this morning that Peter apparently is bored and feels the need to "liven things up around here," I've been checking the memorabilia side for the inevitable "Which do you like better: pigskin, horsehide or leather?" post.

Archive 10-29-2007 12:26 PM

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Posted By: <b>Bob Pomilla</b><p>I like displaying my cards with a nice floral arrangement. Of course,for the upcoming holiday season, heavy on the mistletoe and pine cones, with tinsel tastefully sprinkled about.

Archive 10-29-2007 12:28 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Peter- after all that has gone on in the past few weeks, why do you feel this compulsion to start these oddball threads? You said about a week ago that you realized you needed to step back a little, but I feel you really haven't learned anything from the responses you have gotten. What gives?

Archive 10-29-2007 12:29 PM

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Posted By: <b>Al Simeone</b><p>Thanks Rob,<br />Just following Jeff Ls lead on the "Best Catchers" Post.<br />A weak attempt at a post and JEEZ not even a picture of a catcher from him ! Always leaves the work for others to do!<br />Work on it Peter!

Archive 10-29-2007 12:32 PM

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Posted By: <b>anthony</b><p>do you see it peter?<br />(check your email)

Archive 10-29-2007 12:34 PM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I am listening but like to be careful on certain issues. I don't ever want to seem too unkind, however at some point I will step in, especially when something becomes detrimental to the welfare of the board, imho. This issue is quickly approaching that threshold.....<br /><br />Peter- please be careful as this is your last warning about weird, or inane threads and posts.....If we ever meet in person you can say whatever you want to, but on the board you must refrain sometimes....This isn't a "chatroom"....it's a board for sharing knowledge.<br /><br />regards<br />...

Archive 10-29-2007 12:34 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Hey, guys, cut it out. RC is right. We are just obsessed with Peter's consistent idiocy and we all respond in a juvenile manner. No need to point out Peter's lack of ability to be embarrassed or ability to be affected by negative reinforcement. We are just being borish. And boorish too.

Archive 10-29-2007 12:36 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Did you say Borat?

Archive 10-29-2007 12:42 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Barry, you think Peter is really Borat? And he's just playing with us? I never thought Peter was a real person anyway...maybe we've been had?

Archive 10-29-2007 12:46 PM

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Posted By: <b>Al Simeone</b><p>NO HES REAL ALRIGHT !! AND HES SPECTACULAR!!<br /> I LIED!!!!!!!!!!

Archive 10-29-2007 12:54 PM

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Leon,<br /><br />You need to clarify your mission statement. I thought this topic was card related. Your mission statement says, "...prewar cards and related topics." You need to clarify what and related topics mean...I thought this thread was a related topic.<br /><br />Peter C.

Archive 10-29-2007 12:59 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Peter- do you really think how the colors clash in your various holders is a substantive vintage baseball card topic?<br /><br />Here- I'll start one: does anybody ever use a PSA slab for a coaster when they don't want to put their drink down on a nice coffee table?

Archive 10-29-2007 01:03 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Barry, you just hijacked Peter's topic! You know that's not right. Please start another thread with your topic and add a smiley face or two. But don't hord all the threads and PLEASE when you see me on the street look the other way.

Archive 10-29-2007 01:03 PM

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Posted By: <b>anthony</b><p>peter, here is my way of displaying the mixed holders and is a legitimate answer....<br /><br />8 sgc<br />5 psa<br />1 gai<br />4 raw<br />18 total = i have them in a box in my closet

Archive 10-29-2007 01:04 PM

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Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>barry ,no i like my coasters round but the scg slab is great for potato chips(esp pringles).<br /><br />

Archive 10-29-2007 01:07 PM

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Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>I just finished reading Freakonomics, and there was a chapter about the guy that started frowning anytime someone said something racist, in a successful attempt to stop those comments. MIght be a good idea.<br /><br /><img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 10-29-2007 01:11 PM

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Posted By: <b>Al Simeone</b><p>Barry,<br />How did you know ? I use them all the time on my coffee table. And the kids prefer the SGC holders at the kitchen table! Peter you really cant be serious can you? One good word to the wise Even Leon is starting to see what we are talking about and if that happens well as Confucius would say "MISSON STATEMENT OR NONE PETER C WILL BE DONE"

Archive 10-29-2007 01:27 PM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>You take things to the extreme. I believe in my last post, in another thread, I asked you to only talk about "pre-war vintage cards"....This is what is called an exception. much appreciated....<br /><br />edited to add clarity...(somewhat)

Archive 10-29-2007 01:28 PM

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Posted By: <b>Peter_Spaeth</b><p>I like how red clashes with green, it reminds me of Hanukkah.

Archive 10-29-2007 01:34 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Isn't mixing a PSA card with an SGC card kind of like mixing an acid with a base? Won't it cause a small explosion?

Archive 10-29-2007 01:37 PM

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Posted By: <b>Peter_Spaeth</b><p>Barry only if it's third base.

Archive 10-29-2007 01:38 PM

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Posted By: <b>shane leonard</b><p>Peter,<br />You are such an asshat. Why don't you stop writing and just listen and learn? It is apparent that you don't have anything constructive or to contribute to these threads. It is hard to begin a quality thread when you know cards, much less begin one when you don't. I believe you would be better served discussing your interesting topics on www.psacard.com. Over there you can discuss how you can set up your 1979 Topps Walter Johnson PSA 4 card next to your rare Beanie babies.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Shane Leonard

Archive 10-29-2007 01:38 PM

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Posted By: <b>Rick McQuillan</b><p>I thought everyone color coordinated their slabs. T206 Abstein looks nice in the PSA slab, but I wouldn't consider putting the orange Fiene portrait in a red slab. And a T207 brown background in a black SGC slab? Never!<br /><br />When will the grading companies wake up and provide us with slabs that color match our cards? Just think about it - a gold bordered slab for my T205's!<br /><br />Rick <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />PS-Peter, if you want the slabs to look nice, decide which company you like the best, break your cards out of the other slabs, and resubmit them to your favorite company.

Archive 10-29-2007 01:39 PM

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Posted By: <b>Peter_Spaeth</b><p>At this point, after multiple friendly warnings, banishment might be approrpiate or at least suspended animation.

Archive 10-29-2007 01:51 PM

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Posted By: <b>Larry</b><p>Add two cloves of garlic, flour and egg, a pinch of salt and pepper and a lot of wine, they mix better that way, bake at 350 degrees and you get a graded casserole...<br /><br />pretty poor post if I do say so myself....sorry but I was a chef, now I am a paint coatings engineer and I am always mixing stuff together, luckily nothing has blown up except for the time I took my chemistry set, and learned what happens when you heat sulfur in a bunson burner....

Archive 10-29-2007 01:56 PM

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Shane: "asshat"?? LMFAO; I guess there are new things to call people I haven't heard yet. <br /><br />Peter S: beat me to the xmas thing; I guess Mexico and Italy are wrong too...better change those flags guys. <br /><br />Isn't mixing PSA and SGC together what they used to call "miscegenation" in the Jim Crow days? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />

Archive 10-29-2007 02:01 PM

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Posted By: <b>Peter_Spaeth</b><p>What team did Jim Crow play for?

Archive 10-29-2007 02:09 PM

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Pete's initial post is not so off. I hear many collectors on this board discuss the aesthetics of the holders, including comparing one company's to another's. I hear collectors picking a grader in part due to the perceived attractiveness of the holders.

Archive 10-29-2007 02:28 PM

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>I have to say I about peed myself when I saw the word 'asshat'. Thanks for livening another Peter thread up...........

Archive 10-29-2007 02:32 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>I don't think this was a terrible post. I, personally, like to keep consistency of holders according to the sets. In other words, I like to have all the cards I own in a particular set to be in the same holders<br />JimB

Archive 10-29-2007 02:37 PM

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>It's not unlike matching frames

Archive 10-29-2007 02:58 PM

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>"it was a mission statement" <br /><br />-jerry maguire, 1996<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />p.s. how can clear clash with another color?

Archive 10-29-2007 03:02 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>and that may not be much, but to answer Peter's original question, I simply stick to one rule with grading company slabs.<br /><br />Rule 1:<br />Pre-1950 = SGC<br />Post 1950 = PSA<br /><br />okay, Rule 1a: if I acquire a card in any other slab...I crossover according to Rule 1

Archive 10-29-2007 03:12 PM

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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>If the thread originated from someone else, it wouldn't be getting so much flak. I know many people who like to have their collections from only one grader.<br /><br />James

Archive 10-29-2007 03:21 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I think James nailed the issue here.<br /><br />Peter has put himself on a shorter leash than others because of his persistent offbeat posts. I don't know why he can't simply sit back, relax, and just read the board for awhile.<br /><br />Unfortunately he has put himself in this awkward position, and each time he starts a thread it creates a disruption.

Archive 10-29-2007 04:09 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Hey Guys, only two more hours till game time. It's been a long time since we've posted the best right handed first basemen since the Korean War. Let's do it the hard way and only post those with one arm. Posts are welcomed.

Archive 10-29-2007 04:18 PM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Whoever said this was not a bad topic is absolutely correct...Barry is correct too in that Peter C has put himself on a proverbial shorter leash with regard to types of threads started and responses given...Not sure how much more polite I can be? best regards<br /><br />edited spellin'

Archive 10-29-2007 05:35 PM

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Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>I would like to thank Peter for starting this thread, otherwise I would never have heard (read) the word AssHat! That is simply freaking classic! I love it and can't wait to use it sometime in the near future.. I just have to be sure not to use it around my kids... </P><P><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14></P><br><br>martyOgelvie<br />nyyankeecards.com

Archive 10-29-2007 05:52 PM

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Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>My PSA and SGC cards mix together just fine.<br /><br />I do, however, have to keep my Graig Nettles and Bill Lee cards separate. They do not get along.<br /><br />-Al

Archive 10-29-2007 05:52 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>Well, just called my wife an asshat. It didn't go well.

Archive 10-29-2007 06:09 PM

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Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>To answer the question I've found they don't mix well. In my collection the SGC cards taunt the PSA cards telling them they are trimmed or overgraded. The PSA cards respond by calling the SCG holders too fat and tease them about being sent back to ebay Sunday night.

Archive 10-29-2007 06:11 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I'm amazed that so many here have never heard the word 'asshat' before. You guys need to get around on the internet a little bit...that word has been in use for at least 5-6 years.

Archive 10-29-2007 06:15 PM

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>lol Dan. I was thinking the same thing. Great word, not really new. When I saw the reaction here I thought maybe my knowing it for quite awhile now made me some kind of internet junkie or freak. But I'm not. Right? Right?? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />J

Archive 10-29-2007 06:24 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I've personally been using that word on Usenet for at least 5 years...I just tend not to swear in this chatroom though because it's not a prevalent practice. Though I did once tell someone to go f... themselves...and that's about as mad as another poster here has ever made me, but I still felt bad about it.<br /><br />Picking on Peter C seems too schoolyard bullyish to me (Easy target, doesn't fight back)...I know there are people here who are extremely annoyed by his posts, but the best way to rid yourself of an internet annoyance is to ignore it.

Archive 10-29-2007 06:34 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, don't be fooled by Peter's usual position of posting a smiley and rolling over and showing his belly to avoid abuse. He's about as passive/aggressive as they come. No passive fool would ever insist upon posting the same inane crap over and over even after he's been begged, asked and abused about it. <br /><br />But of course it's all in just good fun, right guys? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <br />

Archive 10-29-2007 06:55 PM

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>I have refrained from posting negative comments about peter's posts -<br />mainly because I respect and like the people who have met and who defend Peter.<br /><br />but I have to say, Peter's posts are becoming particularly bothersome.<br /><br />Yes there have been some people who have picked on Peter -<br />but there also have been many who have politely asked him to stop the nonsense.<br /><br />Yet, Peter continues. And I don't mean just this thread.... look at the other recent threads and take it all as a whole. "strength up the middle?" "slab mixing?" <br /><br />I take the continued posts of this nature as a sign of disregard and disrespect to those who politely spoke out about them.<br /><br />Many times I also doubt Peter's sincerity in threads he starts - as it seems he is looking to orchestrate a conversation and is not sincerely looking for answers (maybe I am wrong about that, but thats how I take it many times).<br /><br />Again, I look at this as a sign of disprespect to the people on this board.<br /><br /><br />Dan B... I very much wish there was an 'ignore thread' button - but there is not.<br /><br /><br />After too much nonsense though, the best way to ignore it is to not visit N54. <br /><br /><br />(edit to fix some grammar)

Archive 10-29-2007 06:59 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I'm with Joe- "disregard" and "disrespect" are the operative words here. No amount of advice has convinced Peter to refrain from all of his unnecessary posting.

Archive 10-29-2007 07:30 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>All I see is someone trying too hard to fit in here....some of his posts can be annoying, some are bizarre, and others are halfway on topic, but I'm telling you that if you ignore them you won't die and this forum won't go to hell...It's really easy to see when he's started a post. Don't click on it. He's not a troll (troll's fight back and they do not meet up with people in real life), I just think he doesn't know how to formulate a good question. He also apparently has a hard time keeping his post war/pre war questions in the correct forums, and Leon should just lock those as soon as he sees it happening....I guess if Peter can't abide by that then he should be banned. <br /><br />When Jim C and I had our difficulties in getting along on this board I stopped reading his posts and responding to them...it was easy. I'm glad to say that we now get along fine and have a mutual respect. Those who are making too much of Peter's posts IMO are inviting confrontation with Peter and seem a little annoyed that he won't fight back. I'm surprised at the amount of 'piling on' I see too from other posters....even mild mannered Barry Sloate has joined in the reindeer games and I guess that surprises me the most. Maybe I'm the one who is blind and Peter should just be banned, but after 10+ years on usenet forums Peter C is a mild annoyance at best.

Archive 10-29-2007 08:00 PM

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Posted By: <b>brian</b><p>If the slabs are facing each other, the players will actually climb off the card and walk right out of the slab. But it only seems to happen after the room starts spinning and my bottle of mezcal is empty.

Archive 10-29-2007 08:02 PM

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Posted By: <b>Al Simeone</b><p>Dan ,<br />I really am not seeing it that way. Peter was asked many times in a very nice way to stop the as I put it (mind numbing dribble) many many times. We tried the nice way ,we tried in so many ways. NOPE none of it works. I stated in one of the posts "I truely believe he enjoys doing it this way" and I still do. As you are entitled to your opinion so are the others who post here. I myself feel sorry for the guy but if he wants to continue with these posts (and I see no sign of him letting up) Then there is going to be no sign of me letting up . Fact, I never have seen him show or scan an item in any post he has started. Always lets others do all the work. Fact, he seems to go into hiding until people like yourself take up his cause and start defending him. Then he comes out and starts "power to the establishment power to post anything any time" Go check that one out on the memorabilia board side. Another real deal post from Peter. And his posts check them out they go on and on for 60-90 posts and if you really check the "on subject" part of the post is very little. In real knowledgeable information I truely believe he knows very little. The posts just go on and on about how bad the poor guy really is. Yes sometimes its funny but most of the time its just foolish chat and that s the point. If this side of the board is going to return to talk about pre war cards with (some) off topic talk once in awhile then something has to change. I now believe Leon is starting to see the light on this issue with Peter. Its starting to get old. and something needs to be done.As was stated by others there are other "CHAT" boards that would serve Peter better but to continue to say just ignore the guy well Dan thats really not going to happen.

Archive 10-29-2007 08:31 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dave S</b><p>Has to be some psychological expanation as to why he continues such posts...any psychiatrists on here??<br />I have to think maybe he's just craving attention and sitting there laughing at all of everyone's replies to his assinine questions??

Archive 10-29-2007 09:08 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>There is something disheartening about turning on Net54 after not paying attention for 2-3 days and see Peter's off-topic inane posts. I honestly think Peter thinks he gets credit from other posters for starting these posts which have little if anything to do with vintage cards. As another poster said, it makes you want to just turn off the computer.<br /><br />After a round of pretty severe criticism and Leon joining in he said he understood but here we go again with multiple threads started. Dan I agree that we had our differences and now things are fine--same thing with Jeff and Dan--but this is more than a mild annoyance to me. Maybe it shouldn't be...but it is.<br /><br />Peter, you are not adding any value to the board and its clear that you are infuriating a number of other posters whose opinions I care about. Please stop posting.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

Archive 10-29-2007 09:24 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>he didnt get to play in many reindeer games. He said he was a nerd and maybe this is his revenge !.......<br /><br />or is it the pickled peppers that Peter picked?<br /><br />DOes he have a degree?....maybe not in brain surgery .WHat the heck , if everyone was the same, then you should all overnite your cards like I ask.<br /><br />Peter you must have alotta love here, you have 60 mil responses.<br /><br />If I do not like, i do not respond. If no reply ,goes by the wayside.<br /><br />xo Peter....we are all a little weird !<br /><br />

Archive 10-29-2007 10:01 PM

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Posted By: <b>Josh Adams</b><p>Wow, Peter gets alot of flack, regardless of what he says. And now people are telling him not to post?! Just don't read it. There are plenty of threads here that I am sure people do not like. It's only an internet message board. Does Chao have that much effect on everyone? <br />I notice at least 5 other threads tonight that are informative, so I just concentrate on those. But to tell another person on here not to post? Doesn't seem right.

Archive 10-29-2007 10:45 PM

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>I don't know why everyone is surprised, I started a thread about the issue and it was deemed OK so why should this be different. Peter has made it obvious that this is now Leon choice and he has chosen to let it run amuck. <br /><br />Like they told me start evolving folks. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Lee

Archive 10-30-2007 02:20 AM

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Posted By: <b>ScottIngold</b><p>Does Peter collect vintage cards ?<br /><br />Just curious. There are requests for scans. But none posted by the cousler himself.<br /><br />Me thinks he is looking for a home.<br /><br />Or maybe he just looks up to Jeff. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 10-30-2007 05:19 AM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Dan- you are correct that I normally don't like to get confrontational in these kind of threads. So I guess I have to be pushed over the top to respond the way I did.<br /><br />It is the absurdity of this situation that has gotten me upset. If a hundred people, a thousand people, or a million people ask Peter to please refrain from posts that have nothing to do with vintage baseball cards, he will still come on the board the next day and say "okay guys, Bill Mazeroski was part of my favorite all-time double play combination, what is yours?" Nobody could be that impervious to all the feedback he has gotten on the board.<br /><br />Up until recently I pictured him as simply a good soul who just didn't get it. But now I think there is something pathological about his posts, and that he really should leave the board. Every time he starts a thread all hell breaks loose, and that is just too much of a distraction from what is really important around here.

Archive 10-30-2007 05:42 AM

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>I really had high hopes after Peter said he was taking the feedback to heart and trying to improve. It even seemed like it got better for a few days.<br /><br />But his posts this weekend have been unfortunate. The one about clashing holders could at least be stretched to be OT, except for the short-leash situation that is unique to Peter. But the one about double-play combos? Not quite sure what the thinking was behind that one. It seems like the weekends are his downfall.<br /><br />I've actually considered something, and I'm not kidding here. Barry has long said that this board would be good material for a college psych project. I've said the same thing, except that I've always seen it as a sociology project - how people form societies, organize and maintain themselves.<br /><br />It as actually occurred to me that this might be exactly that. Someone's senior paper or thesis or whatever in which he keeps poking at the society, testing norms, breaking them in different ways, backing off for a bit, coming back, being of good cheer the whole time, etc, and then observing and writing about the group responses, individual responses, who emerges as the opinion leaders, who emerges as the supportive group, who has actual disciplinary authority, and how all of these interract to resolve the situation.<br /><br />It's really pretty fascinating when you look at it that way. Do I really think Peter is a made-up person and this is someone's Sociology project? Nah - obviously a low probability. Plus people have met him and he really is a collector. But if they hadn't ... well I would at least be considering it.<br /><br />But it's one of those hypotheses that, while not likely true, does suddenly explain all facts and events, and makes everything fit together and understandable. At minimum, it show how bizarre this is that such a thing would even be a possibility. <br /><br />Joann

Archive 10-30-2007 06:16 AM

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>I stated my sincere opinion and concern - and have nothing further to add.<br />The repeated defense of these posts are a head scratcher to me - and I don't want to get wrapped up in the debate.<br /><br />I think it is time for me to take a break from the main 'card' board for a while.<br /><br />I am by no means leaving.... <br />instead I will be over on the memorabilia side / the golf forum / and of course the BST.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

Archive 10-30-2007 06:23 AM

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>"Where have you gone, Joe D,<br />Our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you.<br />What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson.<br />Joltin' Joe has left and gone away,<br />Hey hey hey."<br /><br />say it ain't so joe...say it ain't so.<br /><br />after much debate, i edited this post to add a wink...<br /><br /><img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 10-30-2007 06:25 AM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p> I don't see my actions as letting Peter C run amuck. Actually I think I have given him a final warning, publicly. Maybe you didn't notice that? You may think what you want to...I will continue to run this board the best way I know how.... I might be a little bit too lenient but that is my nature...regards<br /><br />edited spellin' again...

Archive 10-30-2007 09:39 AM

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Posted By: <b>Dan Paradis</b><p>OK, I read this forum almost every day. I rarely respond. I finally have to say something regarding your rude responses to Peter C. If you are under 13, this response is not for you. I understand that you are still a teenager and haven't grown up enough to learn how to treat people. If you are over 13 and responding with these ridiculous sarcastic responses, GROW UP!! Is it that difficult to move on to the next topic? Just because you are not interested in his topic means everyone else isn't either? <br /><br />When you get a chance, check out how many threads are not related to this forum. For some reason if they are from someone other than Peter, they're accepted. <br /><br />FYI. I am interested in his topic. Just yesterday AM I was looking into some of my display cases and thought of regrading some cards because of how they looked next to each other. <br /><br />Check out the one PSA card in this case:<br /><a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/danp306/SportsMemorabilia051-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a><br /><br />I'm also not crazy about this case with the mix of GAI, PSA and SGC:<br /><a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/danp306/SportsMemorabilia017-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a><br /><br />This one looks much nicer with all PSA:<br /><a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u265/danp306/SportsMemorabilia006.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a><br /><br />Dan

Archive 10-30-2007 09:46 AM

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>Nice collection!!

Archive 10-30-2007 09:48 AM

Do PSA Cards Mix Well With SGC Cards?
 
Posted By: <b>Casey</b><p>Touche!

Archive 10-30-2007 09:50 AM

Do PSA Cards Mix Well With SGC Cards?
 
Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />I really like that little built in display case. Can you tell me what you are using to hold the cards upright and where you purchased them from. Thanks.

Archive 10-30-2007 09:52 AM

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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Dan, although in general I prefer a black background to white, I think a mix of PSA and SGC would meld better with a off darktone-white background, or maybe even a neutral mid-gray tone, if you could stand such a thing. On the mixed-holdered display, since black is the main color of the SGCs (and the background,it makes the PSAs seem obtrusive. Maybe mock it up first with cheap color paper. You could line the smaller white built-in to try it first. Just my opinion. At any rate, great cards, great display.<br /><br />*edited to say: WOW, that's alotta Yaz!<br />*edited again til I got it right.

Archive 10-30-2007 09:53 AM

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Posted By: <b>Ken W.</b><p>I bet Dan is happy this morning.<br />BTW, I think the display with the different grading companies looks just fine against the black background. Nice room!

Archive 10-30-2007 09:55 AM

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Posted By: <b>Corey R. Shanus</b><p>Really nice displays!<br /><br />I notice that you have a black and white image of Boston-Providence posing at Messer Park in Providence in 1879. From the scan the image quality looks very good. Can you shed any light on how that image was taken? The reason I ask is that some years ago the original glass negative of that photo was sold at auction and it always intrigued me whether prints would subsequently be generated from that negative.

Archive 10-30-2007 10:00 AM

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Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>Beautiful display, Dan. The mix of holders looks fine in the second photo, but when all but one of the OJs are grade by SGC, you might consider crossing the remaining PSA card.<br /><br />

Archive 10-30-2007 10:07 AM

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Posted By: <b>howard</b><p>Hi Dan. Nice post, collection and display.<br /><br />Have you considered displaying the cards raw? I've always preferred them that way myself.<br /><br />Howard<br /><br />BTW...are the '60 & '61 Yaz's out getting graded?

Archive 10-30-2007 10:33 AM

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Posted By: <b>Michael Flaherty</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />That is a very impressive Yastrzemski collection you have displayed.<br /><br />If you ever get the chance, could you e-mail me a scan of the 1965 Embossed PSA 8 you have? It's one of the toughest cards to find in nice condition from that set. <br /><br />Thanks for the pics!

Archive 10-30-2007 10:37 AM

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Dan, that's a great looking display. If I may ask what is the method to your collecting on your prewar display? Just cards you like? or is there a pattern I'm no seeing?

Archive 10-30-2007 10:45 AM

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>are thy eyes deceiving thee? It is a real nice HOF collection. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 10-30-2007 10:49 AM

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I can see that it's hall of famers...but it's mostly Fan Craze and T206 with a few others in there.

Archive 10-30-2007 11:04 AM

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>Dan, thanks for sharing the wall displays - I love seeing everyone's items displayed. gives me ideas, etc...plus it's a neat way to share the collections. I'm with you regarding mixing the raw, and various slabs. I find uniformity much more appealing, whenever it can be achieved. It's just a personality thing.<br /><br />Everyone,<br />On the greater topic of Peter C (Hi Peter), I think this topic is fairly well-related to our hobby. If it gets people to post pics of their stuff, I'm all for it!!!!<br /><br />His other posts seem to have won him a little bit of a shorter leash as Leon has stated earlier, but don't forget that communities, Board such as this one, etc. thrive on characters. Peter C has established himself as a character (either real or imagined doesn't matter). His posts can be silly, OT, or otherwise annoying to some or many, but at the very least he does start conversation. The bully behavior is disappointing to see, but I suspect that it may even in part encourage some of Peter's posts.<br />His posts are like a car crash. They cause many to slow down as they pass by, but sooner or later everyone gets their look and decides to get on with their day...<br /><br />What's my point....eh....relax

Archive 10-30-2007 11:48 AM

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Posted By: <b>John H.</b><p>Peter has been given a very long leash on this board for a very long time. He has brought criticism on himself. The majority of his threads have been inane from the start and they seem to be nothing more than attention-seeking in nature. He says he's a lawyer but that's a scary thought based on his poor command of the english language and lack of ability to stay focused on the purpose of this forum. He often refers to his collection but we have seen no evidence of a collection. Personally, I wouldn't care if he has a collection or not but he says he does and he often asks to see pictures from others so it would be nice if he would contribute to the sharing. I know I don't have to read his threads but I can't help looking because I'm curious to see if others are feeling the same way I am about the quality of his contributions here. Over the last few weeks it's become clear that most of us have lost patience with him but, believe me, he has been given more than a fair opportunity to fit in.<br /><br />John

Archive 10-30-2007 11:53 AM

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />Thanks for actually responding to my post. There were about two others that responded. This thread should have gone 3 posts and died. The rest of you guys just rehashed old news. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter C.


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