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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>I just found 3 WAGNER,1 THORPE and 1JACKSON Tin Toppers!! What do I do now!!

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Post images, would be what i would do....or sell them to me for $300 with free shipping.<br /><br />Great do I make the check payable to skydash55? Gald we could do business. LOL<br /><br />All kidding aside if you did find them congrats would love to hear the story.

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>OK....my hands are shaking!! Give me about 15 minutes!!

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Seriously, call Robert Edwards Auctions immediately. You will be in good hands with Rob Lifson and get the personal and respectful attention that you deserve.<br /><br />Here is a link to his website<br /><br /><a href="http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/rea_consign.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/rea_consign.html</a><br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>Sky...I'll meet you on the border of South Carolina and Georgia at I-85 and take whatever amount of the entire group off your hands....I wouldn't want all this to be too much for you <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Jay, you SOB how dare you kill my deal!

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I just want the 10 Tin Top cards I need for my sage advice <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...but I would also:<br /><br />a) contact Collectibles Insurance Agency and start a policy immediately:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.collectinsure.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.collectinsure.com/</a><br /><br />b) after protecting those cards in penny sleeves inside toploaders, bring the best cards to the bank and open a safety deposit box.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>OK!! HERE THEY ARE!!!!<br /><br /><a href="http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x291/skydash55/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x291/skydash55/</a>

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Posted By: <b>David Davis</b><p>If you decide to sell them, make sure the commision to the auction house is close to 0% as possible. Although I am not the best judge, you have what sounds like close to a 7 figure collection, if the grades are decent. The auction house will make 6 figures on the buyer's premium alone. The Thorpe, Jackson, T-206 Plank, etc. would be the highlight of most card auctions. A generous cash advance also seems plausible. Keep in mind that Robert Edwards only has one auction a year; it is in April.<br />

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>HOLY ****!!

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Curious to where you found them and why they were already in sheets???<br /><br />There's a Plank T206 as well...huh?

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>THORPE TIN TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>"Curious to where you found them and why they were already in sheets???"<br /><br />Read my first thread"how to find an honest appraiser"<br />

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Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>sure looks like Thorpe!<br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/distribution/icons/ThorpeTT.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Skydash, congrats whoever you are, the hobby will be better for it if the find sees the light of day and not lost or worse yet a trash can. <br /><br />Once again, congrats on the find. Chat with Barry Sloate or Rob ASAP. <br /><br />I wish you the best keep us posted!<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />John

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Posted By: <b>bigfish</b><p>He is one of the most honest guys in the buisness. He will guide you in the right direction.

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>I'm sorry they are so fuzzy,but I'm scared to take them out of the plastic!!

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...take them out of the plastic. Keep them in toploaders. Keep them from banging or sliding around.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>If you need to make money fast on the cards (the REA auction wouldn't be until April 2008), Barry Sloate would a great choice. He is a long time dealer with a great reputation and is on the East Coast. Given the scope and value, he'd probably be willing to travel to see it.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>It's not the plastic that is making them fuzzy. You're either too close for the lens to focus, or more likely the light level is so low it's necessitating a slow shutter speed, and you're getting blur from movement. But they are certainly sharp enough to tell what you've got, just not the condition. <br />

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>wow...this is exciting...I've been missing all of the action/fun!!! 2 thorpe tt's in 1 week...wow...and a jackson to boot! Congrats flyboy!<br /><br />pete ullman in mn

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>Alright guys...I just took som more pictures of these cards and also the back of the Jackson card that will hopefully be in better focus.....give me 10 minutes...

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Holy **** is right!!!<br /><br />The White Whale has been sighted!!!!

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Posted By: <b>Jim Dale</b><p>Barry Sloate's auction services were very responsive to me as a potential buyer in their last auction - I would go to them in a heart beat if I had what I saw in the scans.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Peter, where has the other Thorpe been sighted???

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>Ok...try these..<br /><br /><a href="http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x291/skydash55/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x291/skydash55/</a>

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>someone posted a scan of picture of the one Fritsch owns<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>Ed Ivey</b><p>Will this become a screenplay?

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>They appear to be in great shape. The TT Jackson recently sold was only a SGC20. This looks like should grade much higher.<br /><br />What I wouldn't give to make a find of Tin Tops like that (drool)<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>I agree...they look as though they have never been handled!

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Nice cards, much better shots. How about the T206's Plank etc? Love to see those if you're in the picture mood.

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>those are gorgeous...yeah...let's see a plank...and some rare backs!!!<br /><br />pete ullman<br />

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Skydash's Thorpe has the same exact print flaw inside the "H" as Fritsch's card.

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>"Nice cards, much better shots. How about the T206's Plank etc? Love to see those if your in the picture mood."<br /><br />I am...just not in the digging mood...I've got to go put on a diaper before I go any further!

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Posted By: <b>doug</b><p>show great detail....looks like they were printed yesterday!!! amazing find

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Skydash- you're sitting on a gold mine and I'd be honored to help you if I could. Regards, Barry

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Sky - I'm with Paul (T206 Collector) on this one. First things first - get them insured and get them in a safe deposit box. Now.<br /><br />Also, I wouldn't give out any personal info to anyone unless you initiated the contact. If legit, this is a lot of money and it's all playing out on a public internet site - who knows who could be reading it. There have been plenty of links posted in the two threads - enough so that you can contact those you need to.<br /><br />If you do want to sell them, REA is a good choice as a major house with an annual auction. They are quite large, and always have top-shelf items in auctions. That may be either a good or a bad thing.<br /><br />I don't know if I've ever known of anyone in any walk of life that is so unanimously respected for honesty and fair dealing as Barry Sloate. He could probably be more flexible in terms of scheduling and auction, and it's foreseeable that your items could be in an auction of their own. <br /><br />Good luck whatever you do. And where, again, was that landfill where they dumped the Ruth jerseys? lol<br /><br />J<br /><br />Edited to sound like less of a grammatical moron

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>"I am...just not in the digging mood...I've got to go put on a diaper before I go any further!"<br /><br />If I found this it would take years to get me out of the "digging mood", shame we cant see the others good luck at auction...............

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Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>Please excuse my ignorance and I do not doubt the find... but I'm confused about the two posts above referencing Fritsch tin tops. Are we saying that these scans are ripped off from Larry?

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>eek gads!...someone posted a scan of larry fritsch's supposed thorpe tin type...this is the scan i was referring to!<br /><br />pete ullman

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>In another thread, someone posted a scan of a picture in a book of the Fritsch Thorpe. Then someone noted that the card in this find has the same print flaw that the Fritsch card has.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>"If I found this it would take years to get me out of the "digging mood", shame we cant see the others good luck at auction..............."<br /><br />I promise you I will dig for those cards this eve. I have seen them on the list,but there are about 1200 cards here,in no order whatsoever,so it will take some time.<br />

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Posted By: <b>Dave York</b><p>I normally just enjoy reading posts on here but I felt compelled to respond to this thread. i just want to say this is one of the most amazing collections I have ever seen. I would suggest hanging on to the collection and learning more about what you actually have. In learning about the history of the ballplayers, you may find that you will want to hang on to this unique collection just as your wife's family has for decades. In time you will realize that this collection is worth more than most individuals IRA and 401K accounts combined.<br /><br />Best of Luck in what ever decision You make.<br /><br />Dave

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I am not insinuating anything....just noting that they have the same printing flaw. Perhaps the Thorpe was discontinued very early in the run because of this flaw and it was just never corrected?

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Posted By: <b>dstudeba</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1186526712.JPG"><br /><br />Sorry Joann<br />

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Sky, no hurry but as collector In would have been through all 1200 three times already, passed out then gone through them again. LOL<br /><br />First get your affairs in order and call this man below. <br /><br />Barry Sloate (718).855.7513<br /><br />That's the most important thing you can do right now, showing us pics is the last thing needed to be done. <br /><br />Best regards,<br /><br />John<br /><br />P.S. If you mention my name and the forum you get a free t-shirt and a discount oil change coupon, or did that expire already Barry? (joke)

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Posted By: <b>Ricky Y</b><p>Nice finds! Can't add more to what others have advised..a good picture of front and back and a list of the cards with the backs...is a good place to start. I can't wait to see the condition of the cards..if they are as good as the colgan's chips..wow! It's always great to see finds come out of the woodwork like this. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Ricky Y

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Posted By: <b>Justin</b><p>Wow, this is totally my dream. Good for you, and good luck. I look forward to seeing more pictures

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Skydash- everyone has been very kind with their support, and if the day comes when you want to sell these treasures, I will guarantee you will be in good hands.<br /><br />I don't want to say any more since this is a chatboard and not really a marketplace. But obviously this is big news. The Jackson and Thorpe alone would put your kids through college. This is really special.

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>Guys...I don't know any of you from Adam,but I really appreciate the help. We are discovering these things together. My Father-in-law mentioned this collection only a few times and I never thought much of it...So when I read all of your enthusiastic responses...it's just a hoot. I will post more when I find more....Skydash

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Posted By: <b>David Davis</b><p>If there was ever proof that there are great collections out there that fly under the radar, then this is it. Clearly, from the few labels that can be seen in the scans, and the fact that the cards are in sheets and toploaders, Sky's father-in-law knew what he was doing.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff D.</b><p>Not knowing much about this set, and the rarity of the Thorpe, could someone explain why it looks so different from the others? The background, font and font color, detailing in the face (cheeks and lips for instance) all look much different in the Thorpe. Not to mention the others look like photos and the Thorpe looks like a (pardon, but rather crude) drawing. <br /><br />Again, I know very little about this set and so I was just wondering about the apparent drastic differences to my untrained eye.<br /><br /><img src="http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/JeffD27177/ttpictures.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p><br />Kind of cool that it came from my home state of SC, and not to far from where I found much of my collection. Good ol’ South Carolina. Congrats Sky.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Barry, I can only assume that your silence means the oil change coupon and t-shirt promo have expired… <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/smileys/143.gif">

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>dstubea or leon<br /><br />Could you please resize the scan of the Thorpe tt so we don't have to scroll over to the right to read the thread?<br /><br />Thx<br /><br />J<br /><br />Thanks d.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Not silent John...I'm in awe just like everyone else.<br /><br />The Thorpe looks different and appears to be either hand drawn or a retouched photo. Perhaps they were unable to secure a photograph of him. Just a guess.<br /><br />And the condition is just superb. They look brand new.

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Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Catalog all the cards you have, take a day off and do it. Go buy a scanner and scan four cards at a time. <br /><br />Take cards to bank, put in safety deposit box and leave them there.<br /><br />Then....<br /><br />Sell cards for lord knows how much.<br /><br />Pay off the mortgage, send the kids to school. Take a year off. Retire even... who knows.<br /><br />Congrats and good luck.<br /><br /> <br />Edited to add: Be careful who you contact. <br /><br /><br />PS - Go with Barry or REA.

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Skydash,<br /><br />1- be VERY careful, gentle with the cards. If you sell, condition will be a significant factor in what they'll bring.<br /><br />2- move these cards to a safe place, a safety deposit box. Tomorrow, if you haven't done it today.<br /><br />3- with patience, and clean hands, figure out what you have. Tin Tops are different from other Colgans. Folks on here know the difference, someone will help identify scans if you email them to us.<br /><br />4- you could sell all, none, some, some now some later... lots of possibilities. The auction folks look at it as if they own part of your cards. Some folks on here would like to get a bargain dealing with you. I'd suggest you communicate with 2 or 3 auction folks, and maybe 2 or 3 of the guys on here, and then put together your own plan of action. Patience... the quick dollar will be the small dollar. And then you'll be bitter about it.<br /><br />5- I do wish you well, and congratulations. It might be neat to keep a few cards to pass on down, keeping them in the family.<br /><br />FW

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Just had to ask.

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>Skydash,<br /><br />1- be VERY careful, gentle with the cards. If you sell, condition will be a significant factor in what they'll bring.<br /><br />2- move these cards to a safe place, a safety deposit box. Tomorrow, if you haven't done it today.<br /><br />3- with patience, and clean hands, figure out what you have. Tin Tops are different from other Colgans. Folks on here know the difference, someone will help identify scans if you email them to us.<br /><br />4- you could sell all, none, some, some now some later... lots of possibilities. The auction folks look at it as if they own part of your cards. Some folks on here would like to get a bargain dealing with you. I'd suggest you communicate with 2 or 3 auction folks, and maybe 2 or 3 of the guys on here, and then put together your own plan of action. Patience... the quick dollar will be the small dollar. And then you'll be bitter about it.<br /><br />5- I do wish you well, and congratulations. It might be neat to keep a few cards to pass on down, keeping them in the family.<br /><br />That's the best advice I've gotten yet....Thank you.

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Posted By: <b>Paul K.</b><p>Go with Rob Lifson (REA)... it's a no brainer

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Posted By: <b>Eric</b><p>Just out of curiosity, what would a Thorpe in that condition bring at auction? Any thoughts?<br /><br />How about the Jackson and Wagner?<br /><br />If an SGC 20 Jackson (correct me if I'm wrong) brought 40K plus, what would one like this possibly bring?<br /><br />Amazing collection you have. Congrats bro.

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Posted By: <b>Jimmy</b><p>I think we can say this could be the best find this year if there is still more to come. This is why so many of us stay connected to the hobby, I enjoy it so much even if I cannot afford evrything. Selling and buying and collecting is one of the most rewarding and makes the hobby fun with this much interest WoW! This type of find makes me think about how much more I want to do in the hobby as a part-time dealer and collector.<br /><br />Jimmy<br />

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Posted By: <b>John S</b><p>So many emotions, happy, envy, utter shock...I just posted the Fritsch's scan yesterday thinking that it would be nice if someone could confirm the existence of Thorpe's card. I guess now we know for sure. Those cards are immaculate...Lionel Carter condition. Great find.

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Posted By: <b>David Davis</b><p>Since Skydash started a new thread for his find, I don't feel so bad trying to hijack this topic. Is anyone else surprised that not one person mentioned that he should contact Mastro? How about Goodwin, Mile High, Memory Lane (had to say it), Leland's, Lew Lipset, or any other well-known auction house?<br /><br />Is it because of the quality/quantity of the cards, or some other reason? If all who chimed in felt that REA/Barry Sloate were the best choices, then who exactly would consign cards to the others?

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Given Mastro's questionable recent past and REA's impeccable reputation, there really is no reason to send a new comer to Mastro, especially given how they treated the family with the Ruth ball. I'm sure part of the reason Mastro gets business is because they have fostered good relationships with major collectors. I'm sure Leon will defend Mastro til his dying breath. They also offer more than one auction a year. That is REA's only drawback, but is also a strength. They only need to focus on one auction per year allowing them to take the best care possible of any and all clients.<br /><br />Barry probably gets a lot mention because he is active here, is well liked and has a great reputation.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I can't say much but I do feel that Mastro and every one of the banner advertisers would be great choices. All the poster has to do is refresh the screen and click on the banners....every company is good.....Good luck with your cards....btw, Mastro recently got over $42,000 for a lesser looking Thorpe...

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>When did mastro have a TT Thorpe, or did you mean Jackson?<br /><br />Jay<br /><br />The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>It was the Jackson not the Thorpe<br />

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I meant Jackson, in this last Mastro Live Auction.

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Posted By: <b>Bill Stone</b><p>My friend, Bob Sacamano, just called and said he thinks he might have seen Mr. Mint at the breakfast bar at the Holiday Inn in Greenville, South Carolina this morning.

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>RAT HAT? Very appropriate............<br /><br />Or maybe he was eating broccoli at Kenny Roger's Roasters.......<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>We never actually see Bob Sacamano, he exists only in our imagination. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>And it was a bad rat hat, even as rat hats go! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p>This is incredible. Luckily, someone had the foresight to care of these over a few generations!<br /><br />Congrats Skyguy. <br /><br />*Didn't Jerry become good friends with Sacamano, while staying at Kramer's chicken soupernove?

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Posted By: <b>shane leonard</b><p>Skydash-<br />Here is what I would do knowing how much this could possibly be worth. <br />1. Call SGC and schedule an appointment to have the cards graded on site in one day.<br />2. Take off for that week, heck even the month if you want to.<br />3. Get a plane ticket to fly first class to SGC's hometown and have them all graded.<br />4. Place every card in a safety deposit box (graded). <br />5. Call the auction house of your choice. <br /> a. Barry Sloath<br /> b. Mastro<br /> c. Lelands<br /> d. Mile High<br />It really won't matter to the buyer as they will find them and bid. I would negotiate the sellers fee as 0% commission and 3% of the buyers premium. One of these guys will do this....believe me. <br />6. Keep some of the cards just for the memories.<br /><br />What a great story!!!<br /><br />Shane<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>stock or something as they have prices on most, if not all, of them. Obviously, the prices at least on the Thorpe and Jackson are WOEFULLY incorrect. Neat stuff.......<br />

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Thanks Shane, but it's spelled "Sloate."<br /><br />I agree that Skydash should take his time and do this right, and that he should get the best commission rates possible. No problem there.<br /><br />And Steve- yes, Jerry spoke to Sacamano when he called at 3:00 in the morning.

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Posted By: <b>shane leonard</b><p>You are the man! Skydash, I meant him not Barry Slothe the car dealer in Mississippi.<br /><br />Ha

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>and they are also all in penny-sleeve and top loader combinations...a far cry from rubber-banded and lying naked in a cigar box.<br /><br />They look rather pristine, to be honest