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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />There's an East Coast bias to this board. Maybe it's just my imagination or maybe all the hard-core collectors are on the East Coast. However, I'm trying to pull together a West Coast get-together in San Francisco. Maybe a few of us can get together in a month or two in San Francisco. Any of you have an idea for a date or place.<br /><br />Just remember that the best Irish restaurants and pubs are in San Francisco. If that doesn't sell you on the idea, nothing will. It'll be lots of fun, we can bull**** about our collection and baseball over dinner.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I'm available July 1st.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Steve,<br /><br />July 1, isn't bad but it's a Sunday night. I have to go to work on Monday. Also it's a short work week because of 4th of July. Would you rather go to an Irish restaurant or an Italian restaurant.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Italian. Maybe could squeeze June 30 in. Not sure though. We'll keep in touch throughout the Spring.

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Posted By: <b>Chris Counts</b><p>Peter,<br /><br />I live in Monterey and I'd love to come. In terms of a destinition, what about Lefty O'Doul's old restaurant? I've heard it's still there ...

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p><a href="http://www.inetours.com/Pages/Dining_Archive/Lefty_O'Doul's.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.inetours.com/Pages/Dining_Archive/Lefty_O'Doul's.html</a><br /><br /><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Rob Dewolf</b><p>The last time my wife and I vacationed in San Francisco, we ate breakfast every morning at Lefty O'Doul's and dinner there once. Cool place.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>For a relatively high quality restaurant it is reasonably priced, you can't ask for more. For a bunch of hardcore collectors like us there probably couldn't be a better setting. How does June 30, 2007 look for people.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Jim Dale</b><p>It would be worth a trip to the city, but no doubt my wife would want to tag along and need to find something else to spend money on...thus depleting my hobby funds....I don't know about that one <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I'll be checking with my wife tonight but I'm pretty sure she will come.<br /><br />It's not all cards. There will be food and drink as well.

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Posted By: <b>Dean H</b><p>I'm in the Sac area and would be interested in attending as well.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>but are significant others invited to this?

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Steve,<br /><br />Since when have we been discriminatory in this hobby. If your wife won't be bored with the discussion of UZIT backs, I don't see a problem.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Mark</b><p>Count me in. I actually live 2 blocks from Lefty O'Doul's.

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>by significant others do you mean your zeenuts? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br />Sorry, I know I don't particularly belong here - but its hard not to read a dinner thread.<br />I wish I traveled more - it would be nice to meet up with the west coast guys too!

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>as I horned in on your NY Dinner II or was it III or as one suggested II I/II.<br /><br />And yes, I will be taking my zeenuts albeit in scanned form. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />As for travel: SanFran 6/30 to 7/3 visiting my oldest son and his girlfriend. Then up to Blachly, Oregon to visit my daughter and her boyfriend. I'll be in Portland 7/6 and 7/7. Anyone want to start a dinner thread?<br /><br />8/3 and 8/4 to the National. (I am really bummed that the dinner there was changed to Thursday but I don't hold it against you boss.)<br /><br />9/3 to 9/8 to Vegas. Anyone want to start a dinner thread? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <br /><br />Oh, in case any of you are wondering, yes I still work.<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Steve,<br /><br />I don't see where you find time to work. I'm all for a Vegas thread. I know of a great Japanese restaurant at the Mirage. Anybody want to meet.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I'm partial to the Japanese restaurant at Caesars but will be pleased to try the Mirage. Let's work out the deatils in SanFran.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Steve,<br /><br />Now we're moving, we don't even have the first dinner set-up and already we're thinking about the second. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>There is a 'coastal' bias to this board, East and West....<br /><br /><br />I guess here in the middle we just grow and raise the food, so the ends can eat...

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Got the go ahead. Me and the Missus will be there. <br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1174356978.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>a time on June 30. How does 7:00 p.m. sound?

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />7:00 on June 30 works for me. Any other suggested time.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>someone would like to play some bad golf with me at Pebble Beach....<br />and wouldn't mind talking about printing during the round....<br /><br />I might be able to make the journey and call it a business trip <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Next year would be more likely than this year for the trip though.

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Posted By: <b>BcDaniels</b><p>Lefty's is cool but a "fairly high class" restaurant?<br /><br />it's a cafeteria with photos all over the wall.<br />By San Francisco terms the class factor would be about a 2.8 on a scale of 10.<br />The corn beef and brisket is good but's no high end restaurant by any means.<br />It is a card collectors kind of atmosphere for certain.<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>B.C.,<br /><br />It's high class for me, I'm a low class kind of guy. Actually, I was thinking about Dimaggio's down at Fisherman's Wharf when I posted. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>BcD is right about Lefty's, not high class but the right atmosphere for the crowd. Personally, I don't care for the food there. In the city, my favorite places are Cafe Sport which makes a garlic pasta that will leave your breath reeking for days no matter how much you brush and gargle <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Schroeder's (great German food) and in Oakland/Emeryville, The Gingerbread House (awesome cajun and creole food). Best burger joint is Hot N Hunky. <br /><br />There is another restaurant next door to Cafe Sport, I think Leaning Tower of Piza, that has a nice vintage baseball display and some awesome osso bucco<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>B.C.Daniels</b><p>Cafe'Sport is awesome. If you go there I will treat you too! It's big bucks now to eat there.<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>bcornell</b><p><i>Best burger joint is Hot N Hunky</i>...<br /><br />assuming, of course, that you're can't make it ~10 miles to the nearest In 'N' Out. It would be blasphemy to suggest otherwise.<br /><br /><br />Bill<br />

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Posted By: <b>backdamage</b><p>I hate to suddenly chime in on something so inconsequential as this, but by being an occassional lurker, I guess it's sort of my role here, by default. In 'N' Out is great, of course, but in my opinion, Fat Apples in Berkeley makes the meanest burger in the Bay- a bold statement that is near-blasphamous to even THINK, here, in Califorinia. I dunno, maybe it's just the naturally subversive attitute already present in the Berkeley air that makes there burgers seem so good, or it could also be the nostalgic feeling I get from Fat Apples' Jack London theme.....perhaps it's a little bit of both.<br /><br />Here's a link:<br /><a href="http://www.shopinberkeley.com/f/fatapples/index.php" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.shopinberkeley.com/f/fatapples/index.php</a>

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Posted By: <b>B.C.Daniels</b><p>THIS IS THE PLACE TO MEET~<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.thestinkingrose.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestinkingrose.com/</a><br /><br />\<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>You started this one. I'll be there at 7:00 p.m., Saturday, June 30, 2007. Just let me know where to show up. Put me down for two.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Steve,<br /><br />We still have a ways to go before June 30, 2007. Probably around June 15, 2007 I'll ask for confirmations. Right now I'm leaning towards having our dinner at Lefty's at 7:00 on June 30. Although the Stinking Rose is a good restaurant and only down the block from where I work, it is relatively small in size. Lefty's is more fitting and it's been a while since I looked at the photos on display.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>In and Out can't be beat for a fast food burger. I wish they were here in MN. Hot N Hunky is not a fast food burger. The variety is great. My faves are the Italian Stallion and Pastrami burger. I forget the name of the burger with blue cheese on it, but that's real good too.<br /><br />The ultimate greasy spoon Chinese in SF is Sam Wo's. Dirty cheap and you get a ton of food. They won't give you a fork until they are done making fun of you mercilessly and the only drink they have is tea, but they allow you bring your drinks in.<br /><br />When I threw raves in SF, we used to finish up the night at Sam's and they would let us keep a pony keg of beer there for us until we got there.<br /><br />For desert, the Toy Boat Cafe near Japantown is really good and has great collection of vintage toys.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Jay,<br /><br />You actually went to Sam Wo's before, that's the only place in Chinatown that is open until real late on a weekday night nowadays. The last time I checked their open until 4:00 a.m.<br /><br />At one time they had the famous kissing waiter. Of course, he would only kiss the pretty ladies...but he's gone to that big restaurant in the sky.<br /><br />I wouldn't dare go to a Rave, I look too much like a NARC. I wouldn't want to get tossed out. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Yup, Sam's has always been open until 4am, which was perfect for us Klub Kids, and it is closed on Mondays. My roommates and I used to eat there at least 2-3 times a week. Nothing like a lot of good food real cheap. The 5 of us could got there and eat for less than $20 total and take food home.<br /><br />Man, it sucks living in bumfuq, MN. There aren't decent restaurants within 100 miles of here <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>B.C.Daniels</b><p>you know the "Nam King" close to Vesuvio's and City Light books is the best chinese place in Chinatown! That's why you never see Americans in there as it's advertised in every foreign tourist brochure in the World!<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I know that, but notice I said "greasy spoon" <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />There is a really good Greek/Mediteranian restaurant in the port of Oakland, but I can't think of the name of it right off hand. They have belly dancers that perform while you eat <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />If you guys want to just get burgers and fries there's Clown Alley on the corner of Columbus and Jackson in SF. It's a come as you are type place and best of all you don't need reservation.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>burger people <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Steve,<br /><br />Your a true trooper, we're going to keep you happy. Lefty's it is.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Hot N' Hunky is much better than Clown Alley and it is also come as you are. Only time I ever ate at Clown Alley was late night because Hot N' Hunky was closed and really wanted a burger. It's only a few blocks away from Sam Wo's and I'd much rather eat there.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Jay,<br /><br />I agree with Steve, we need something more than a burger joint. So far, we agree on Lefty's, if you have another suggestion, make it similar to Lefty's. Thanks.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>you pick up a hot wet tray that just came out of a dishwasher and slide it along an aluminum bar and tell the guy how you want your pastrami or beef brisket sandwich, you pay then sit down open the plastic jar of grey Poupon and slather your sandwich while looking at the 8 x 12 of Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe on the chipped wood wall above you. Stay away from the salad (its not Fresh Choice), the waitress who looks like a Russian shot putter with and extra chromosome and the Chihuahua named Carlos who has some kind of skin disease and is totally blind who sits out front with the guy with Aids who pan handles there between 3pm and 7 daily~<br />And the glass served flat Pepsi.~ avoid!<br /><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />How about Dimaggio's at Fisherman Wharf, the problem is I'm not sure it's still there.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Bob C</b><p>SCOMA'S.<br />Kind of a local's place down an alley on the wharf. Very old - been there since the early 60's. A little pricey and their crabcakes are to die for.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>would be very nice.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Steve,<br /><br />It's unfortunate but I checked with SF directory information and Dimaggio's is no longer in business.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p><a href="http://www.joedimaggiosrestaurant.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.joedimaggiosrestaurant.com/</a>

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Aha, so that's what happened to Dimaggio's it's relocated. Now it's actually closer to work. I'm going to drop by for lunch and I'll report back to the forum on my findings.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>ouy, ouy

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>So that's the plan, I'll be going with a friend to Dimaggio's some time next week. At North Beach we have the greatest Italian restaurants outside of Italy. Are there any other restaurants you guys would like me to test. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Number 1 on my dance card. Keep us advised.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>As I mentioned before, if you are going to be int he North Beach area, check out Cafe Sport. The place next door, I think it's Leaning Tower, has a great osso bucco and nice display vintage baseball memorabilia in the restaurant and bar.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Jay,<br /><br />Where do you live, are you going to join us on June 30, 2007.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>B.C.Daniels</b><p>cost $100 to eat at now and you have to wear latex clothes or you wont fit in!<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Dimaggio's is pretty close to North Beach. If we start off at Dimaggio's then around 9:30 p.m. they'll get tired of us. At this point if some people want to they can continue the party at a number of places if they wish. Or old-timers (like me) can simply go their way.<br /><br />Peter<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I live in MN now, but lived downtown a block of Market street right behind the Gap store near the new US mint and Mission Delores.<br /><br />Wish I could go. I really miss the city, but it got too expensive to live there with =out selling your soul to corporate America. <br /><br />Brian, how did Cafe Sport get so pricey? Do they still have the carved up wooden booths, or did they totally renovate the place? Although I can see that raising prices wouldn't really hurt business since even in the 90s, there was a line to get in every night. Is the place still owned by Antonio? Can't remember his last name <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>Whilst the new "DiMaggio's" in North Beach is different than the one that used to be in Fisherman's Barf, we find it to be commensurate with our tastes. It is owned by the same group who owns McCovey's and Big Crosby's in Walnut Creek. It is very nice, but on the expensive side. <br /><br />There's nearby Bocce Cafe, which isn't expensive and has good food. Whilst North Beach Pizza is also good, we find that parking sucks anywhere in North Beach. <br /><br />There's also Momo's across from AT&T Park, as well as Paragon, which is a stone's throw. Whilst there is a night game June 30, it could be fun anyway, especially if you meet after first-pitch and since this is a baseball card geek-fest.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Cobby,<br /><br />Maybe I'm flakey, but more likely the adjective "expensive" got my attention. I liked the old Dimaggio's because it was reasonable and I doubt that the new Dimaggio's would be comparable.<br /><br />On the other hand, I've gone to Bocce Cafe a number of times and feel comfortable with both the quality and the price. Are there any strong objections to changing the venue to the Bocce Cafe.<br /><br />The good thing about this thread is that we've covered about all the good eating places in SF.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p><a href="http://boccecafe.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://boccecafe.com/</a><br /><br />Whilst they used to not take reservations, it's worth checking into. There are plenty of bars in which to mark time after checking in and coming back to collect your table.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>that's four "whilst" in just two posts. You've been hanging around Bruce too long. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter:<br /><br />Come on now (and this is not intended to be disrespectful in anyway) but aren't you the one who bills out at $400 an hour?<br /><br />I think you can handle DiMaggio's though I'll have to leave the spouse at the hotel so I can afford it.

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Posted By: <b>B.C.Daniels</b><p>Guys if you’re going to eat in North Beach do you want to eat in a mediocre place?<br />Why not step up and do it all? There are no less than five restaurants within 200 yards of each mentioned above that are way nicer, have much better food and valet parking! You guys know San Francisco is a parking garage with no place to park right? And in North Beach of all places! But then, it won’t matter where you eat if Vesuvio’s is on the agenda afterwards! I love sitting upstairs looking out the stain glass windows over looking Kerouac Alley where sex is free and so is hippy lettuce. And if you know the place as soon as it gets dark and they roll the projector showing scenes from the 1906 earthquake on the walls of the bar for hours while you drink Anchorsteam and Guinness dark on tap! Yee haw! Isn’t that a site for a drunken sailor to remember in fondness! The Nam King is right there! You can yell in there and no one will care!<br /><br />Jay,the Cafe'Sport has never been cheap! The Chappino there was $35 in 1987!<br />though excellenta on the Italian food,the place is expensive and yes,they still have the carved wood tables.<br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.10best.com/San_Francisco/Restaurants/Italian/index.html?businessID=18482" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.10best.com/San_Francisco/Restaurants/Italian/index.html?businessID=18482</a><br /><br />this place is happening~<br /><br />BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I don't recall it being that expensive. then again, back then, I was making huge money so I never really worried about how much a restaurant cost.<br /><br />Parking in NB is easy if you know where to look <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14> I never had a problem parking a limo, let alone personal vehicle.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys, we got plenty of time to decide, so let's open up the discussion for an appropriate restaurant. So far, we have 3 places that have been mentioned: Lefty's, Dimaggio's, and Bocce Cafe.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>B.C.Daniels</b><p>is a Cafeteria<br /><br />Joey D's is nothing like the old one<br /><br />Bocca is the best of the three choices if you must.<br /><br />There is only 300 restaurants within a square block of each of these to investigate. peter,go eat aT each over the next two months and get back to us.<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>B.C.,<br /><br />The problem is when you work in downtown SF you initially go to different restaurants because that's one of the joys of SF. But after a while you will only go to a few because you feel comfortable there for whatever reasons. Maybe you know your going to run into your friends.<br /><br />Or perhaps, it's a place you can avoid some people. Whatever, I'm sure you understand.<br /><br />I've tried all 3 of the restaurants mentioned and I like Bocce the best, but if you have other specific suggestions let me know.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I could go for the Shalamar. Been there?

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>Top of the Mark Hopkins hotel buffet~<br />same with the Fairmont~ <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Steve,<br /><br />I've been to a Shalamar in Fremont, CA but if there's one in SF, I don't know where that is. Indian food is okay, but we need to find a place where most of us can agree to.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>My son Nick who lives in SF took me and the Missus to Shalamar few years back. Long lines out the door, quite the popular place. The food was inedible. Nor am I much for eating on formica tables. <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> out of 3.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Fairmont would be convenient as that is where we will be staying.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Steve,<br /><br />Sunday Champagne Brunch at the Fairmont is a great deal. I'm up for it if others want to do it. You get a great view of the City and great seafood as well as champagne.<br /><br />We could meet late on Sunday morning.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Sounds good. Let's see what the others say.<br /><br />Steve

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>So long as we can crash Steve's mini-bar!

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Posted By: <b>B.c.D.</b><p><a href="http://www.lecolonialsf.com/home_frame.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.lecolonialsf.com/home_frame.html</a><br /><br />it's the best Vietnamese food in the City by far~<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I've never tried Vietnamese food but I'm game. (Or is that gamey <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>)

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Steve, B.C.<br /><br />I've been to Le Colonial. Excellent, but no view. If you guys want to stick with Saturday night let's go to Le Colonial, if you would prefer late Sunday a.m., then try Fairmont Brunch.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />Here's my tentative proposal. It's a gorgeous spring day here in SF. Sunday, June 31, 2007 at the top of the world famous Fairmont for champagne brunch at 11:30 a.m., for those that go to church on Sunday there are numerous churchs that surround the Fairmont.<br /><br />We meet after church for some socializing. I'm not sure how much it costs anymore, but I suspect it's around $20 per adult.<br /><br />If you can't make it, do you have another suggestion.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I'm in <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>