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Posted By: <b>George Dreher</b><p>Goodbye everyone......have fun collecting and have a great life!

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>George,<br /><br />You've been a great contributor, don't just ride off into the sunset. Tell us the guy who ------- you off and we'll make him stand in the corner.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>RC</b><p>George,<br /><br />I don't know which "idiot" attacked you, I don't always follow every topic, but <br />I do know that sometimes it is better to be thick-skinned and ignore those individuals.<br /><br />I have coached high school varsity sports for 25+ years and it seems that there are always <br />people who know how to do things better and don't mind being overly critical of others.<br /><br />With that said, it is totally your choice whether to stay a part of this forum or not.<br />I have read your comments and while I have only been here a short time, it doesn't take<br />long to figure out which people really know what they are talking about and I counted <br />you as one.<br /><br />Wishing you the best and if you decide to come back I believe you will be welcomed. <br />Most here are informative and entertaining. I have really enjoyed most topics.<br /><br />Regards, RC

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>George, <br /><br />I don't follow every thread, so I missed the drama about you being attacked and am not sure what distant photos of randomly filled duffel bags prove (I'm guessing it's intending as some kind of knockout parting shot?) but I do love seeing the Ozzy album on the wall. Anyway, enjoy the sunset of obscurity. <br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Ryan, shows what the hell you know -- you missed the Charles Bronson photo on the left. That rocks.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I'm wondering if the photo of the flag raising on Iwo Jima is autographed by the three survivors and what the ticket stub is that seems to be in with the picture???<br /><br />Looks like a lot of cool stuff on the walls - not to mention on the bed.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Hey George- I second the others. Who said what to you that causes you to leave? You are a good poster and in a short time became a part of the community.<br /><br />How about just take off a long weekend and we'll see you back here on Tuesday? Everyone needs to take a short break once in awhile.

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Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>Ryan<br /><br />Thats not just any Ozzy album, thats Blizzard of Oz my friend! Quite possibly the most significant album of the 1980's to a Heavy Metal Fan. George has good taste in more than cards it appears. I think the point of the pictures was to show up what we will be missing. It is like breaking up with a girl and then having her send you some sexy pictures of herself to think about what you could be doing, or not doing out of spite. Hopefully George does not consider this a breakup!

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Posted By: <b>Al S</b><p>Hi George, Being a newcomer here I really think you should reconsider. Dont let One fool spoil what you seem to enjoy. COLLECTING!! Looks to me like you have a great collection ! Dont keep us guessing whats in those other bags and on some of the other walls! Remember what they taught you in school. If you ignore them they will go away! The whole point of a board is to exchange thoughts and stories about cards,pins,balls,etc etc. Dont let your emotions carry you away from the forum.OR TELL US WHO HE IS AND WE WILL BEAT HIM TO DEATH WITH THE FAKE 350 SUBJECT WAGNER!!! We want more pics@@@@@@ Al

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>Who cares about Charles Bronson....I'll take Jane Russell right beside him any day. I know PSA would give me a 10 on her. Gem Mint. (gem mint, what a stupid grade. Kind like 110%. Better than perfect. yeah right)

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Two thoughts on this thread:<br /><br />"George is getting angry."<br /><br />"These pretzels are making me thirsty."

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Posted By: <b>Al S</b><p>THAT WAS A GREAT LINE the other day on the pretzels!!!<br />Remember George HUMOR!!

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Posted By: <b>Chris Mc</b><p>????

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />By the "Imaginary Collection" I assume that somebody didn't believe he really had a collection and got him mad in a post.<br /><br />I hope that we can get beyond petty jealousies on this board. We're all just having fun on this board, let's not take all of this cardboard too seriously.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Dave S</b><p>Whoa, I feel as if I turned on a soap opera on Friday after missing Mon-Thurs, obviously missed some fireworks somewhere. Can only say...thanks for sharing the wall pictures and your cards, incredible stuff

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>George,<br /><br />That's totally up to you if you don't post here again, but your reason is kinda weak! Don't get me wrong, every bored member has been piss off from time to time watching or reading humorous, attacks, arguments , rude remarks, cleaver statements <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>. Think of it this way your not losing any Money! It's all fun and mind games! <br /> <br />If the forum didn't have some bad elements with in, it would be a very boring place. That said the forum is the best place to obtain VBC knowledge in a short period of time! <br />The forum is Good' for the most part, so it out ways the bad elements buy far!<br /> <br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>dstudeba</b><p>I usually don't post on messages like this, but this post has happened before and unfortunately will probably happen again. Many heavy contributers have decided for one reason or another to leave. The board has survived those departures, so it will definitely survive this. Some people have had differences with the way the board was going and left, others for other reasons. Some posted these differences, others didn't. However this "someone said I don't have the great collection I claim to have so I am going home" sounds very childish.<br /><br />And though you think that you have proven something showing us those pictures, all you have done is show that you have some nice cards and some less common T206 backs. You have shown us nothing remotely close to 100K. <br /><br />Sadly you only reinforced the belief of your antogonist in many people's minds.

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Posted By: <b>Rob Dewolf</b><p>because he surely can do it himself, but I think the following comment is what he's referring to, posted by wonkaticket:<br /><br /><i>Nah no invite George.<br /><br />I just assumed a guy with your knowledge and caliber collection would have better things to do than make lame inbreeding jokes at some girls expense.<br /><br />Who knows George perhaps you did get an invite…maybe it’s just in a screw down at the bank…</i><br /><br />It's all in the latest "Jesika" thread.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>I must admit, George, that this board does tend to have a bit of a<br />pendulum swing to it.<br />'It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, <br />it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness,<br />it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was<br />the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the<br />spring of hope, it was the winter of despair,<br />we had everything before us, we had nothing before us....<br /><br />I have found that the heavier weight in the balance continues to<br />be the informative, positive swing of the pendulum.<br />I would suggest that you remain with us and enjoy the positivity<br />of the heavier weight and rest abit when the heavier weight tends toward<br />'foolishness'. <br />It works.<br /><br />all the best,<br /><br />Barry

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Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p>It's not real, but a tv show. When you encounter folks that can get away with it, some are going to <u>act</u> up. Try another channel for a while.

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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>George - I'm sorry to see you leave. You were a great asset to this board. Take care. Alan<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHXpnZi9Hzs" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHXpnZi9Hzs</a>

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I was going to sleep on this but the more I thought about it the more I thought now is the time.<br /><br />I'm not going to say that the poster doesn't have the collection he claims. <br /><br />With that said I do find it difficult to believe that someone with such an extensive collection can fly under the radar for so long.<br /><br />The collection that the poster has described, i.e. some 6000 plus T206's and approximately 2000 19th Century cards just seemed to most of us to be too good to be true.<br /><br />I think it was "fair comment" to question such claims. I don't think anyone was over the top in questioning such claims. <br /><br />What has troubled me from the beginning is his unwillingness to provide an email link to allow someone to discuss concerns with him off the board and his admitting that the name he uses is not his real name.<br /><br />All of you who have responded on this thread with statements of support for "George" are certainly entitled to your opinion. But for me if his reaction to the comments made is to pick up his ball and go home, so be it.

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Posted By: <b>Adam J. Baxter</b><p>First of all George, let me say that I'm sorry to hear that you've decided not to post anymore. I'm not going to pass judgement on your reasons for deciding to leave. If you feel that you are being disrespected here, then you have to do what's best for you. I hope that if you do decide to take a break, at some point you'll change your mind and return. <br /><br />I'm very surprised at how quickly board members are to "blow off" someone when they say they are going to leave the forum. When a collector leaves the hobby they take away alot that the rest of us benefit from, such as experience and knowledge. If the consensus of many on this forum is "good riddance" or "we'll survive" then so be it, but I can't help feeling that it's the rest of us who lose out and not just the one who's walking away. <br /><br />Call me old school, I guess.<br /><br /> <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>"I was going to sleep on this but the more I thought about it the more I thought now is the time.<br /><br />I'm not going to say that the poster doesn't have the collection he claims. <br /><br />With that said I do find it difficult to believe that someone with such an extensive collection can fly under the radar for so long.<br /><br />The collection that the poster has described, i.e. some 6000 plus T206's and approximately 2000 19th Century cards just seemed to most of us to be too good to be true.<br /><br />I think it was "fair comment" to question such claims. I don't think anyone was over the top in questioning such claims. <br /><br />What has troubled me from the beginning is his unwillingness to provide an email link to allow someone to discuss concerns with him off the board and his admitting that the name he uses is not his real name.<br /><br />All of you who have responded on this thread with statements of support for "George" are certainly entitled to your opinion. But for me if his reaction to the comments made is to pick up his ball and go home, so be it."<br /><br />DITTO.

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Posted By: <b>Frank Evanov</b><p>Hmm...not impressed by a stack topped by a PSA 4 1933 Goudey Gus Mancuso, the backs of a bunch of faceless T206ers in who knows what condition and a bag of ungraded football and basketball cards. And impressing us was certainly was the goal of his post.<br /><br />George says George is leaving now. <br /><br />Leon, are You Going to Do Anything to Keep this Leading Card Collector Here? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br><br>Frank

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>"George" who?

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>I don't understand the animosity on either side of the ball here...<br /><br />Boxes are far better for storing and transporting stacks of cards, the cards aren't allowed to face forward (very Blair With Project), who really cares if George has the collection he says he does, and if he bought everything he says he bought since the first of the year, perhaps he is making up for lost time or simply continuing his already established torrid pace of accummulating cards...<br /><br />regardless, these "This is the Last time I'm posting" threads grow tiresome and we should see them for exactly what they are: a cry for attention, much like my pitiful attempts at humor within somewhat regular irrelevant posts about small pieces of cardboard with pictures of baseball players on them. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />I need another beer...<br /><br />PS - George, stick around, throw your cards up on the New Pickup threads to share, grow that skin a little thicker so you can shrug off the jealous meanies, and let us know your thoughts on cards from time to time.

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>Unfortunately, the only card I can get a good look at is the Ken Houston. I'm just curious why put cards in a safety deposit box at the bank (excluding a Wagner or similar)? If you can afford to buy $100k in cards in a few month span, why not buy a nice safe so you can enjoy your collection at your home. If I couldn't show my vintage cards to my friends and family periodically, I wouldn't collect and would simply sock my extra cash in mutual funds. To each their own.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>For many reasons, even folks with 1200lb safes, in hidden rooms in their houses, with monitored alarms, still put their cards, or their expensive ones, in safety deposit boxes. Call it "peace of mind". The bank I have mine at is made from steel beams. I saw it being built. God forbid a fire hit my house my plastic would melt <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> ..<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I suppose I've watched Ocean's Eleven a few too many times.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Barry made the best observation regarding having a safe in the house:<br /><br />"What are you going to do when that burgler has a gun to your head and says open it up?"<br /><br />I'd feel better with the valuable cards being at the bank.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>The sharpie arrow is RIDICULOUS.<br />I recommend staying, and don't feel like you need to be the one of the big kids on the block, not straight away anyway. If you have great cards, best to leak them out in response to the odd post looking for help with a particular issue. Others will be taking note and will do all the feather preening for you. <br /><br />I know, I've had my feelings bruised aplenty on this board, but where else am I going to go and find bright people talking about stuff I find engrossing? You'll have to earn them but friendships and camaraderie are here to be had.<br /><br />So try us again and play a little harder to get, second bite may be more appetizing.<br /><br />Daniel<br /><br /><br /><br />Edited for gross spelling of appetizing.<br />And a second time for spelling camaraderie. I think I'm developing Alzheimers or illiteracy..

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Posted By: <b>Al S</b><p>George My Popcorn Bowl Is Starting To Run Low. Show Us A Sign ( More Pics) That Your Still With Us. Here I will Use My Arrow -----&gt; Best I could do on short notice!!

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Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>I don't know George, hadn't seen him post much, but I do have two questions:<br /><br />1. Why is there a sharpie covering the grading label on this card? No major company use white backed labels... anyone know what that is?<br /><br />2. The card underneath it is a 1989 Donruss card... Randy Johnson, Griffey, or Gregg Jeffries?<br /><br />Hope you don't leave George... there's really no reason to.<br /><br /><img src="http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5103/georgelatestdeposit4yf8.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>Sorry to see you go George.<br /><br />Thank you for showing us photos of your ten million dollar baseball card and photo collection. The Ken Houston card is a blazer.

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Posted By: <b>brian</b><p>it looks like there are signatures on the wall stuff but I dont see how you're able to make out who the people are in the photos. Its too blurry. There is a McQuillen (sp?) card and an Allen & Ginter wrestler in the bag, the back of a 39 Playball under the Houston card and what looks like a Honus Wagner!? in front of that sloppy black arrow. You should have a game where whoever guesses the most right answers wins an old baseball card.

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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>People on both sides of this issue have a LOT of time on their hands.

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Not all of the white flips have been banished quite yet.<br /><br /><a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/rman444/asa.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Wow this is the last time I go out on a Friday night. Leon anyway to have updates sent to my blackberry??<br /><br />First off let me say I must be the idiot George is referring too. That’s fine, for the record I’m not the only “idiot” who questioned the scope of this collection so openly brought up over the past few months. Many other “idiots” both on here and in emails to me have also questioned it. I guess since I was the only who continued to question it I’m the S.O.B. That’s fine too.<br /><br />For those of you who think I was out of line in questioning this collection and are going to make me stand in a corner, lets review this for one second. <br /><br /><br />George claims to have 40,000 pre-war baseball cards; of which 1,300 are 19th and 6,000+ are T206 and now 100 T3’s. He has 60,000 if you count some non-sports he says. Lionel Carter a well-known hobby giant only had about 50,000 cards of which better than half were post war I would assume.<br /><br />40,000 pre-war cards, c’mon if you took every set known and had dupes you still would be shy how many pre-war cards? Think about it what's the biggest pre-war sets T206, T207, T205, T210, T202, T212 that would only give you around what 3,000 or so cards…. but 40,000????<br /><br />George claims he has 6,000 T206's brags his collection would be "worth in the 10's of millions and take several tractor trailers to haul off" then asks how much a PSA 5 Mike Powers sells for??? I’m the only one here scratching their head? George also claims he has been offered jobs by both Mastro and Heritage Auctions, then in the next breath says I never admitted to having much knowledge about this hobby? I’m I still the only guy scratching their head??<br /><br />George claims he keeps all of this stuff in the bank, how many bank safety deposit boxes have you seen that could handle several tractor-trailer size amounts of stuff? Let alone rent it to you for $500 a year. Just look at the amount of space the plastic above that George pictured, imagine that around 40,000-60,000! My meager collection amounts to less than .05% of what George claims to have and I take up the 3 largest boxes in my bank and they charge me $600. Either I'm getting ripped off or I need to move where George lives.<br /><br />George then claims he doesn't want to share because of fear of security issues, claims he might not even be using his real name. Then in the next breath brags about dropping 5 figures in Mastro over the past few years. Then claims joking or not, he will win all the N173's in the current Mastro auction.<br /><br />George also claims to have a world-class gun collection used in movies, Death wish gun etc, postcards, political, coins and stamps. But out of all the items in this massive collection, a man who has been offered jobs with Mastro and Heritage he scans and asks a question about a popcorn holder from the late 60's early 70's? He even posts to look for a site to gain information on T206’s; I guess I’m the only person here who assumed at around the 6,000+ mark you might have a rough handle on them???<br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1176100212/last-1176203041/What+is+this" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1176100212/last-1176203041/What+is+this</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1176318289/last-1176337536/online+T206+error+resources" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1176318289/last-1176337536/online+T206+error+resources</a><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Finally I think it was another board member who really got me thinking on this collection of George’s he posted something along these lines. 40yrs of collecting George would have had to pick up more than 100 pre war cards a month a year for the past 40 yrs and he'd still be short....<br /><br /><br /><br />However if in fact George has been pulling our leg, and is a normal collector like the rest of us, which is fine and looking at the images appears to be true. Then why the entire BS story? Why the snide comments to others and me saying we could catch up to George in a few decades I think was the quote? Why? <br /><br />True I hate to see any poster go (to a degree), but this board has beat up people and driven off folks by the handful over less than lying about a massive collection,think about that. Heck we ran off a little kid for asking to many questions. LOL<br /> <br />For the record I hope George does have this collection that would be amazing. I hope he and his family really do fill a catalog one day that I can drool over when he sells. If that day does come we all will be better for it, the pure influx of that amount of fresh cards into the hobby would be great for us all!<br /><br />The sad thing is due to the above examples I find it hard to believe, and now with the above images I find it even harder to believe. I’m probably the only one, but that’s just my take.<br /><br />Sorry for being the bad guy network 54 I’ve always tried to share some humor as well as images from my personal collection. I also have tried to contribute what I can to the board in my own way. If you feel I just crossed the line with George, I will take my permanent leave of absence and George can come right back, with no issue of this idiot questioning him ever again.<br /><br /><br />***edited to fix wacky link****<br />***edited again to fix wacky all blue link text***<br />

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>“People on both sides of this issue have a LOT of time on their hands.”<br /><br />James, I guess I would be the guy on the other side…good thing I still have time to bid in auctions… <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/smileys/143.gif"><br />

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>This is sooooo freakin humorous. Based on what can be seen, if that collection cost $10,000 since January 2, 2007, you've spent too much. Nice looking M116 wagner - though its a bit odd that its the only "valuable" card that you've left face up. A bit strange since you left everything else that is purportedly of value face down or hidden behind other cards because "in the spirit of your last post, why bother." I do love that sign in the first picture though.

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>Wonka - I think your post is dead on. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>Wonka,<br /><br />I was wondering about some of "George's" claims also. I didn't say anything though because I have only been on this board for a few years, have a small collection and have already stirred up some trouble earlier. I thought I should just keep my skeptical questions to myself.<br /><br />You are right, if he does have all those cards PLUS political items, guns, coins, stamps, etc. that must be a BIG bank. Maybe he rents some space in Fort Knox.....<br /><br />David

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Posted By: <b>ramram</b><p>Hit it on the nail John.<br /><br />Besides, that's got to be the smallest bedroom I've ever seen from a multi-millionaires house...or is that a closet that happens to have a bed in it...<br /><br />Rob

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>No, JK, "George" said he has purchased $100,000 dollars worth of coins and cards since January not $10,000.<br /><br />David

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>The photos of women on the wall on the left hand side of the first two pictures, are those models?? If so, doesn't a member have a thing about models and collect their photos?? Isn't it Davidcycleback??<br /><br />Could it be that a member has been having fun at our expense with a running gag and that he is quitting because no one was calling him out on it??<br /><br />Just a thought,<br /><br />David<br /><br />Edited to rename the person who I think collects Fashion Model photos.

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Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>Everyone jumped on me when i questioned whether he really had this collection. I hope everyone sees that i may have been making a little sense. Those pictures prove nothing, and he says he has all these valuable t206's face down but then has an arrow point to his wagner m116 to say "look at this expensive card!" Im not buyin it. I think you want to bounce because you know the jig is up.

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Dylan, no offense but they jumped on you for playing moderator. I'm pretty sure I'm the "idiot" George is referring too, but if you want to be an "idiot" I guess you can be one as well.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>After reading through this thread when I awoke this morning I'm starting to think this whole thing was a put-on, just a big joke.<br /><br />Maybe there really isn't a $10 million collection, maybe George Dreher is a made-up name, and maybe someone was just seeing how far he could take a fabricated story and fool a bunch of people. Even the pictures he provided don't add up, as most have pointed out.<br /><br />Maybe this whole George thing was one extended April Fool's Day joke.

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Posted By: <b>Mark L</b><p>Could be an April fools joke. "George" admitted that he made up the name. I hope the guy means that he is going to stop using the pseudonym "George" and will start posting under another name, preferably one that is close to his own.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Only if he was born in April.<br /><br />He's been posting since way before April 1, 2007.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>So far, from what I have seen, I too think John hit it the nail on the head. I hope I am wrong but until it's proven then I am in your camp, John. For the record anyone that doesn't follow a moderators very simple instructions (I think I am too lenient, but on purpose) will be banned. Little Sean wouldn't quit doing things I asked him to do. Also, I did find out, after the fact that you have to be 13 to post on Net54. I would never enforce that rule and if Sean had any discipline he could still be posting. Tom Nieves, and a host of other trolls have been banned for not being able to conform also. And to get back to the topic...like I said "George" who....After looking at Georges pictures here it proved nothing. Show me the meat!!

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Posted By: <b>AL S</b><p>Exactly Leon Is Right As I stated NEED MORE PICS!!! I never Like to see anyone go but If your going to tell a TALL STORY at least have the Pics to back it up! Just dont let us keep posting George prove (us) wrong! Dont sit in silence. Or say APRIL FOOLS and we will all laugh and move on with life!

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Posted By: <b>joe</b><p>I know we all have had Safe deposit boxes at banks at one time or the other, but holy moley is there a size available for 6 tote bags of baseball cards?<br /><br /><br />Joe<br><br>Ty Cobb, Spikes flying!

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Posted By: <b>joe brennan</b><p>Well, you gotta admit it's been fun while it lasted. Not popcorn fun, but better than a bad movie. I for one will miss George. I was always interested in what he would say next. Maybe he can fess up and come back as his real self and join the rest of us armpit collectors. BTW, PSA 7's are now ok. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br><br>In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982. Dad, thanks for everything you did for me.

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>I don't know why but for some reason this song comes to minde here:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SJGDG5GZ2c" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SJGDG5GZ2c</a>

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>Some bored members are over analyzing the situation!<br /> <br />Someone ghost-writing for George: I don't believe that theory at all! If that's true, someone on this bored is only playing with himself. It would only make scents if the person came forward with his game!<br /><br />It's a lame and obvious attempt' to cover up his lies! You don't have to be a Genius to figure that out!

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>David,<br /><br />I understand this guy claimed to have purchased 100k in cards since January. I put 10k to imply that based on the pics, even if he only spent 1/10th of what he claimed, he spent too much. I would have said 1k, but the wagner is clearly worth more than 1k.<br /><br />By the way, would it really be possible to purchase 100k since January and be that quiet/anonymous about it? I guess its possible to do so through auctions, but I would think someone spending that kind of money was doing a lot of purchasing on ebay as well - that kind of spending would be hard to go unnoticed.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I too was getting a little sick of the pussy-footing around by some posters. <br /><br />"George" is a fraud. It's not April Fools. It's not a board member playing a prank. It's nothing more than a delusion by some poor soul.

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>RamRam,<br /><br />I was thinking exactly the same thing - small room, poorly appointed, and pretty beat up furniture (take a close look at the bookcase in the corner) for a millionaire's home.

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>Ok let's break it down for JK!<br />Tall story: is implying that George is a Myth / not real!<br />APRIL FOOLS: is implying that its a hoax / not valued!<br />So far' I have two thinks listed above possible more! Am I Wrong!

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>Brad,<br /><br />Im not sure I understand the point of your post or that anyone else will either - that's partially my fault since I edited my original post. But for everyone else's benefit, I never implied that I didnt understand this thread. I stated that the meaning of your first sentence of your post two up is hard to understand because "BOARD" members and "BORED" members imply two different meanings. Of course, I guess it would make more SENSE just to say I am a BORED BOARD member. I also stated that I dont usually comment on spelling by others, but that I really wanted to know which meaning you intended, which is why I didnt originally point out that "scents" are things you smell.

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>Whatever! No ones perfect, Right!

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>I agree completely.

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Posted By: <b>ErlandStevens</b><p>These last eight or so posts might be the funniest exchange I've ever seen on this bored. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>Mulva ?

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Dolores <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>It's time to Lock it up !

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I have not seen "bul..s..it" posts like this on this forum since the "Adam Moraine days".....<br /><br />George is George.....get over it. No one who has ever posted here needs to be subjected to<br />all this hogwash.<br /><br />I have met many really fine people at the Philly Show who are "readers" of Net54....and, they<br />have a lot to offer to our discussions....but, dare not post for exactly reasons like this.<br /><br />All George asked about was a legimate question regarding a tough to find T206 card.<br /><br />And, for this he is subject to the "Don Imus" treatment.......just unreal.<br /><br />TED Z <br />

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p> if you search for his name you will find a George H. Dreher listed in a couple of internet directories....that doesn't mean his collection exists, but the name George Dreher does. <br /><br /> I do believe a guy can spend that much on cards and not really be "well known". I know 2 twin brothers who stayed under the radar for years and years. there collection of sports related memorabilia filled a house and a spare garage. It is possible....

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>I was just kidding. Man lighten up. Most of my posts are serious. (99%) So I try and make a silly one word comment, directed at no one, and you go nuts...Sorry. From now on I will dwell only on serious matters. I don't know George, don't want to, don't care if he's real or not. Couldn't care less about his Jack Ham card and His Ken Houston card. No more humor. Ever.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Mea culpa

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>JK, gotcha.<br /><br />I understand the $10,000 figure now and your reasoning behind it.<br /><br />David

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>Dave, in your own post you gave a reason why "George's" story is hard to believe. You said twin brothers collected things under the radar and it filled a house and garage.<br /><br />"George" has said he has about 60,000 Pre-War cards both sport and non-sport. He also claimed to collect guns, stamps, coins and political items. He then said these were in his bank in a safety deposit box or boxes and that he paid $500 a year (total) for the rental. I believe he even said in one post that the stuff in the bank would fill up trucks.<br /><br />I know the safety deposit box I use is large and it costs me $150 a year in rental. I don't think I could get all six duffle bags full of cards in that one safety deposit box. So, I would need two and that would be $300 a year right there. If these duffle bags are just his latest purchases and he has more then.....<br /><br />David

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Posted By: <b>Ed</b><p>are offers being accepted on the Ken Houston?

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Posted By: <b>PC</b><p>Does George really have that many pre-war cards? I'd also like to see more pictures, but two things in George's defense:<br /><br />(1) It isn't that hard to spend $100K on cards in three months and remain anonymous. Anyone on this board could find two $50K cards, or 100 cards worth $1000 each, in an extremely short amount of time, from numerous sources -- and if you didn't want the rest of the world to know about it, then we wouldn't.<br /><br />(2) What exactly does the spare bedroom of a multimillionaire's house look like? I do not know or care if George has a net worth of $30K or $30M, but you cannot make that judgement from the way one corner of one room looks, or how it is furnished. Should he have taken pictures of the cards spread out on the hood of his Bentley Azure?<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>100k doesn't buy what it used to I guess. While I think it's entirely possible for someone to "fly under the radar" for a long time, I'm starting to doubt George's claims as well. I want to believe, but these pics actually cast more doubt on his story than if he never posted any photos at all. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>How bout George just posts some of the meat of his collection (like other posters have said) and prove most of us wrong? Wouldnt you then be really having the last laugh? And the Wagner scan is far enough away that Im convinced that it couldnt be a reprint. And if someone goes through all that trouble to try and prove us wrong, why post your supposed "most valuable" cards face down, that doesnt make sense.

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>PC,<br /><br />If he wants us to believe that he has a collection in the six figure range and is as wealthy as he implies, then yes. Pictures of actual cards that are worth something as opposed to Ken Houstons, 1989 Donruss cards, a few t206 backs, etc. would have been nice. If they were on top of a bentley or a rolls, heck even a bmw - all the better.

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Yes, that would have added some to the story. Of course, if the cards had been really good that might have helped; the T206 striptease, not. <br /><br />With apologies to Jim Rome, the rule of thumb for posting here is have a take and don't suck or you will get run. I don't see why we should accord any slack to someone who makes outlandish claims and then out of the blue posts photographs that do anything but confirm the accuracy of his statements. If anything, "George's" treatment of the members of this board is condescending and simplistic. The level of knowledge of many of the participants here is very deep; many of the contributors here are THE experts in certain issues and most of the participants here have a very good handle on what cards are worth and what card pops are out there. For someone to think that a photograph or two of a crapfest on the den day bed would cow the population of this board would be laughable if it wasn't so pitiful.