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Posted By: <b>Tom Nieves</b><p>Leon,<br /><br />Jimmy Crandall has announced he will not post here anymore. He is the giant of the graded card industry. Do you plan on doing anything to get him back? You may not care about graded cards but its the future of the hobby and the future seems to be walking away.<br /><br />Just want to know if anything is being done or if you care?<br /><br />Tom

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Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Actually, a few others seem to have stopped posting as well.

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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>I just don't know how we'll survive...

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>My understanding is Jim voluntarily stopped posting, and that he is always welcome to come back. Is it Leon's place to solicit posters if they choose to take a break?

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Posted By: <b>George Dreher</b><p>are they men......or gods?<br /><br />and if they are gods, should we worship them?<br />I'd rather worship my ballcards.<br /><br />&lt;edited to add additional nonsense&gt;

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Hmmm. There was a thread with almost the exact topic/title started around 4-6 weeks ago on the Net54 Non-sports Vintage Cards board. "What are you going to to to keep the graded card collectors here" or something like that. It was the exact same thing except that it asked about collectors-plural instead of a particular collector. <br /><br />Interestingly, the parallel thread on the other board was started by Jim Crandall.<br /><br />I don't think Leon should do one damn thing to keep any particular poster here, just as Tom wouldn't on the other board. <br /><br />Jim is free to post here as he wishes. Why should any particular person have to have an incentive or special rules made to make posting here more comfortable? If someone were driven off because of things like racism, etc, then I could see it. Not the case here. No one drove him off, and from what I could tell most unpleasantries directed at him were responsive to very controversial statements he had made. <br /><br />Joann<br /><br />Edited for spelling - yes Leon, please do keep the editing function available!<br />Edited for spelling yet a second time. Yep, we need the edit function.

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>And when will some computer savvy poster find a You Tube (or whatever it is) link showing Gloria Gaynor sing I Will Survive?<br /><br />We'll be okay. What exactly did you want him to chime in on that we'll suffer from without his posts?<br /><br />And if he's the "leading" one, who is following him??

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>will miss Jim. I always enjoyed his spirited exchanges and while I didn't always agree with him I respected his right to voice his opinions.<br /><br />It is a shame that some of these threads get so vitriolic. If it continues the board will likely lose more valued posters. That will be our loss.

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Posted By: <b>Josh Adams</b><p>Yawn.<br><br>Go Go White Sox<br />2005 World Series Champions!

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I am neutral. best regards

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>Tom....<br />Just curious why your on the "Jim Bandwagon"? <br /><br />What has Jim contributed here but threads defining how to argue with a crowd?

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>double yawn.

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>almost forgot - "leading graded card collector"<br /><br />nothing against Jim, from what I can gather, he has a great collection, but is this meant to be serious?

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...was sarcastic in its making and designed to have us all pile on Jim C again. I, for one, won't bite.<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>bruce dorskind</b><p><br /><br />Jim Crandall was an important voice in this hobby. His <br />discriminating taste and quest for perfection certainly<br />raised the bar for the elite collector. <br /><br />Whilst many Board Members attacked Jim, primarly because<br />of jealously and their ignorance in understanding his<br />appreciation for real quality, we will particularly miss the <br />fierce debates that Jim inspired.<br /><br />Sorry to see you go, Jim.<br /><br />Bruce

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>did Jim die?

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>I miss Jay Behrens. He had a lot of knowledge dating back years. He was fun in the chat room too.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Jay's still around. Posts semi-regularly.

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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>I agree with Bruce.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY8APrYU2Gs" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY8APrYU2Gs</a>

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Steve:<br /><br />I guess I need to start reading more. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Eric B</b><p>Does any group of collector have a thinner skin than graded ones? The non-sports board also had a couple "giants" in the industry leave because of the mere mention of how grdes and investors have hurt the hobby.<br /><br />Hell, how knowledgeable can they be if they onlydeal with graded cards. I could be a ming vase expert if I had the cash and relied on the expert knowledge of graders in that industry. <br /><br />If they can't grow up then they should leave!<br /><br />Edited (twice) before a response was made.

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Posted By: <b>B.C.Daniels</b><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKSE0ou67TI" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKSE0ou67TI</a><br /><br />but Frank How about this instead?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn-enjcgV1o&mode=related&search" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn-enjcgV1o&mode=related&search</a>=<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>Maybe Jim signed in under Tom's handle. Sigh.

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>&lt;edited to say yawn!&gt;

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Brad,<br /><br />I assume your not going to miss him. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>"Jealousy and ignorance?" That generalized statement is ignorant in its own right.<br /><br />What I won't miss and don't appreciate is the pompous, denigrating comments- as well as the mutual admiration society meetings being conducted on this Board. <br /> <br />I, too, don't mind the spirited debates- but I can do without the right-wing commentary and insensitive, misinformed opinions.

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Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>Jim has taken leaves from other boards as well in the past. The boards carry on, but they are a little less interesting.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Kenneth A. Cohen</b><p>Are left-wing opinions somehow inherently more sensitive and better informed?

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>Any insensitive comment is so, regardless of its political bent. But given the recent political history of this country, it's the right-wing (some- not all) ideology on various subjects that is particularly repugnant and contrary to social norms.<br /><br />Either way, I have not yet seen any left-wing propaganda on this Board (which has been insensitive or otherwise).<br />

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Hey Bruce...<br /><br />In absolutely no way am I jealous of Jim, nor of his graded cards. And I'll refrain from suggesting what folks can do with their graded cards...<br /><br />If Jim was an important voice, I failed to ever hear what he said of importance about true card collecting... which post was that?<br /><br />I'm not sure what you, or you'all, consider an elite collector. I have my own ideas, and the ones that come to mind didn't have piles of slabbed cards. They hardly have any. <br /><br />While possibly over self-confident, I think I have some understanding of and an appreciation for real quality, I don't think I suffer "ignorance" in that regard, so I don't think I was jealous because of that...<br /><br />I do agree that "we will particularly miss the<br />fierce debates that Jim inspired." You nailed that one.<br /><br />Jim evidently knew lots about making money, and about buying really high grade slabbed cards, who was not in doubt about his beliefs on card grading. He was vocal and in the forefront in advocating the collection of high grade slabbed old baseball cards. He had strong convictions. And I don't doubt all of those traits remain. I think he'll return one day.

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Posted By: <b>Kenneth A. Cohen</b><p>Cobby33,<br /><br />Sensitive or insensitive all depends on your world view I guess. As to whatever you call "social norms," slavery and then segregation were once such. Fortunately, people did things that were "particularly repugnant and contrary" to the slave-ownering and segregationist interests.

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>From Tombstone:<br /><br />Doc Holliday: Ed, are we not friends anymore? For if we were not friends, I don't know that I could bear it. <br /><br />Wyatt Earp: I just want you to know it's over between us.<br />Curly Bill: Well... bye.<br />Johnny Ringo: Smell that, Bill? Smells like someone died.<br /><br />Wyatt Earp: So run, you cur... RUN! Tell all the other curs the law's comin'! You tell 'em I'M coming... and hell's coming with me, you hear?... Hell's coming with me! <br /><br />Digression aside, in answer to the question: nothing, many of us hope.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Interesting segue from Jim not posting to segregation and slavery. Not sure how these digressions develop.<br /><br />Jim had a good idea but he was not successful in winning people over to his point of view. Many who supported him in the beginning abandoned ship along the way.

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Posted By: <b>George Dreher</b><p>&lt;Either way, I have not yet seen any left-wing propaganda &lt;on this Board (which has been insensitive or otherwise).<br /><br />I believe in welfare for all and the legalization of marijuana. Does that qualify?<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Joe Pelaez</b><p>"Interesting segue from Jim not posting to segregation and slavery. Not sure how these digressions develop."<br />*<br />*<br />Because they develop just as easy as a scene from SNL. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />It was meant as jest ... wasn't it???<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Kenneth A. Cohen</b><p>Not insensitive as long as the food stamps can be used to buy the dope.

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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>How about this one...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA9gFbvUv0A" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA9gFbvUv0A</a>

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Thanks Joe. I know you meant that in good cheer and as a sort of olive branch. I appreciate it.<br /><br />Yes, and as long as it's Friday afternoon, I too believe in the legalization of marijuana. Can we take a board poll on this one?

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>I vote yes. Even without a poll. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />J

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Yes

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>It's already a landslide!

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys and Gals,<br /><br />Yes.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Peter Spaeth</b><p>Recognizing it is a nuanced issue, I do not support legalization except for legitimate medical use. I do love the song One Toke Over The Line however.

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>I'll say no. I have a daughter now. ha ha

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>Legalize it, tax it and use the tax revenue to build more tanks. That will make all sides happy!

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I know some don't want to legalize it because they have children...but the children have no trouble finding it if they want to, and as a result they are breaking the law and facing felony charges if caught. Wouldn't it be better to take it away from the criminals and put them out of business? Then you would be able to buy it at Wal-Mart's or Chuck E. Cheese and everybody would be happy!

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Posted By: <b>B.C.Daniels</b><p>barrysloate<br />(Login barrysloate)<br />Leon, are You Going to Do Anything to Keep the Leading Graded Card<br />April 6 2007, 3:52 PM <br /><br />It's already a landslide!<br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX6WHvxTYHs" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX6WHvxTYHs</a><br /><br /><br /><br /> <br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>Barry...with a 18 month old daughter, it's not just marijuana there is a whole slew of things now that I'd be in favor of making illegal. The only thing I do want to keep legal is the being able to bear arms. I'd like to be within the rights of the law when the little punk 16 year old boys start coming to the door and I have my 45 strapped to my side...ha ha

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Posted By: <b>B.C.Daniels</b><p>"the only thing I want to keep legal"<br /><br />that tells it all I guess.<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>I think the problem is I still remember being 16..18..21. I always said I don't know how i'd ever handle having a girl, and that I'd be better off with boys. With a boy my mentality is "let them make their own mistakes"...with a girl, um, no.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Dave- David Steinberg told a funny story recently along those lines.<br /><br />He has two teenage daughters, and when gentleman callers come to the door and say "Good evening Mr. Steinberg, how are you" he translates that to mean "hi, I am here to have sex with your daughter."<br /><br />I guess that's a typical father's take on it <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Cat, thanks. I'm flattered. I still read the posts, but have no real desire to post that much here. I do most of my posting on the other vintage card message board.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: <b>Centurion</b><p>"And, behold, the veil of the message board was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent, and the threads were hijacked."<br /><br />I believe Dav will return to the board Sunday morning, for Truly, He is the Backbone of the Hobby.<br /><br /><img src="http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w290/schnacken/02hemp80.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>never heard anyone call Jim Crandell "Jimmy"<br /><br />what should Leon do?! What should he do!? Is there something I can do to help??!! Whatever will happen to us all? Perish the thought! Whatever will we do without...Him?! I was wondering why I haven't been sleeping at night...or eating during the day...and why I haven't been regular....--Now it all makes sense!<br /><br />Besides, be more specific! After all, I am The Leading Graded Card Collector!!! (in my house).<br /><br />Damn, I hope the sun comes up tomorrow.....seriously, I'm really worried.<br /><br />truly....biazarre post.<br />take it elsewhere with this Sky is Falling stuff<br /><br />Jason L

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />Jim wasn't really all that bad...he had his good points...off the top of my head I can't think of them. However, as a newbie he did scare the heck out of me, I started thinking that every card in a PSA or SGC holder was trimmed and re-colored.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>pstratt</b><p>Yes to Proposition 420.

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Leon- You don't have to do a darn thing. If he wants to come back he will, if not, that's his choice. Frankly I think the board will be more serene now. <br />As far as hobby giants go, I'd rather sit down with Lionel Carter. This guy is a TRUE backbone of the hobby guy. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>If we want to talk about a missed poster let's talk about Frank Ward (fkw). Where did he go? He was one of the most helpful and informative posters to ever post here in my opinion.<br /><br />I must have missed the backbone's announcement.

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Posted By: <b>jeffdrum</b><p>W.G.A.S. Not me for one!

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Hey Bob -- I enjoyed your profile in Old Cardboard this month. I also couldn't help but notice your use of the phrase "true backbone of the hobby." Mere coincidence? Or were you inspired?

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Guys and Gals,<br /><br /> The choices we make dictate the lives we lead.... Be well to all over Easter and the Masters.

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Posted By: <b>Mark Evans</b><p>although I feel an equal kinship to Singha Thai beer. I also have the card posted by Centurion, one of my favorites. Mark

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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>yuns must like the guy, everytime he posts, yall come a runnin. I do not need everyone to be alike, we all have are own charachter..<br />...this is who we are. Some are well liked ,well hated,well known.<br /><br />I am my own boss on what I buy,the fact that I done have to sleep with none of ya pwix, dont let noneya bother me. Jim does not bother me ,Jim is just ,uh JIm.

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Posted By: <b>Tom Nieves</b><p>Joann,<br /><br />This is a serious discussion for serious collectors. I will politely request that you refrain from further participation in this thread. Thank you for understanding.<br /><br />Tom

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Posted By: <b>DMcD</b><p>Yea, Joann. Knock it off!

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Posted By: <b>Bob Pomilla</b><p>Joann, Joann, I'm afraid you'll just never be a backbone.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Can we now add "sock-puppetry" to the list of Crandell's trolling behaviors?<br /><br />edited spelling

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>Funny Crandell.....fake handles now? Tom?

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Posted By: <b>joe</b><p>I just can't believe threads like these, nothing to do about vintage cards get more posts than threads about cards. Really who cares if collectors stop posting? New collectors are always waiting in the wings, so we really won't miss them. Look even Jay keeps coming back. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>. He at least adds some valid posts.<br />Joe<br><br>Ty Cobb, Spikes flying!

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Well well. I've had quite a week here. A few days ago I was called 'holier than thou' (hee - cool, because I've never been called holier than much of anything before). And now I've been asked not to participate in this thread for not being sufficiently serious. lol<br /><br />I wonder what post I made that detracted from the seriousness of this thread. Could it have been my first post where I noted the similarity between the initial post here and one on the non-vintage board? Naaah. Had to be the yes vote for pot! <br /><br />Check this out - here is the non-vintage thread. Note that the initial post is almost identical to this one.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/526604/thread/1170994269/Tom%2C+are+You+Going+to+Do+Anything+to+Keep+thr+Le ading+Graded+Card+Collectors+Here" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/526604/thread/1170994269/Tom%2C+are+You+Going+to+Do+Anything+to+Keep+thr+Le ading+Graded+Card+Collectors+Here</a>-<br /><br />So before I bow out of this thread, I have just one question:<br /><br />Leon,<br /><br />I have announced that I will not post in this thread anymore. I am the giant of the low grade collecting industry on the west side of Grand Rapids Mich - the giant I tell you! Do you plan on doing anything to get me back? You may not care about collecting on Grand Rapid's west side but it is the future of the hobby and the future seems to be walking away. <br /><br />Just want to know if anything is being done or if you care?<br /><br />Joann<br /><br />hahaha - this might be the funnest post I've ever made. Now - back to the seriousness everyone.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>First and most foremost Tom needs to email me privately. This is not an option. I just want to chat a little off line. If Tom (hi Tom) doesn't then I will be forced to take the next step. Nothing personal. Secondly, although I am fairly neutral on folks posting, as they come and go all of the time, I would probably ask you to come back, Joann.....I enjoy your posts very much....As for the legalization issue, that's a matter for another board. I will plead the 5th. best regards

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Joann, that thread is priceless. I never knew it existed -- and yet it is almost identical to nearly every thread that Jim participates in over here! He insults everyone and then cowers, hurt, when any response is provided (and falsely claims that his feelings aren't hurt). And it's never his fault, always everyone else's -- despite the fact that the same scenario plays out over and over on various boards, whether it be here, the non-sports board or the CU boards with him always at the center of the storm. <br /><br />Alas, if it were only true that he would no longer be posting here. But as we all know, that could never happen because that would mean leaving the forum to the pro-abortionists and hippies. Fat chance.<br /><br />PS Leon: you can only plead the 5th without any adverse impact on you in situations in which you would be making an admission which could lead to you being charged with a crime. As your invocation of the 5th here is not such a situation, your plea would, therefore, allow for the adverse inference -- that, in fact, you are for the legalization of marijuana. As the moderator of this fine board, I am shocked! and appalled! (But, of course, wholeheartedly agree with the position) <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>thanks for the link Joann.<br /><br />the same post, but from Jim on another board.<br /><br /><br />that makes this just terribly sad. <br /><br /><br />I keep trying to give Jim the benefit of the doubt -<br />but both Jim and Tom have jumped down a few notches with this one. <br /><br /><br /><br />(assuming Jim and Tom are actually two different people)<br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>"April 6 2007, 11:05 AM <br /><br />I, for one <br /><br />will miss Jim. I always enjoyed his spirited exchanges and while I didn't always agree with him I respected his right to voice his opinions.<br /><br />It is a shame that some of these threads get so vitriolic. If it continues the board will likely lose more valued posters. That will be our loss."<br /><br />April 7, 2007<br /><br />I, the undersigned, do hereby delete the foregong post of April 6, 2007. I must have had just one too many at the time.<br /><br />/s/ Steve Murray

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>My friend Peter Spaeth told me that someone had posted about me and that certain people were spreading the rumor that I was posting under an assumed name.<br /><br />It is not me--I have never in my life posted under another name and will never do so. If I have something to say here I always have the guts to say it.<br /><br />As for the non-sports board, all the graded card collectors left and formed their own board.<br /><br />Here a lot of people have left(85 at last count) to join Jay and Scott's board and the graded card collectors rarely post here anymore.<br /><br />For those of you that think its me posting under the name Nieves or whatever or that I had anything to do with it, I will bet you $10,000.<br /><br />Come on big mouths--step up.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>I for one never thought that Jim started this thread. What would be the point? Jim is right in the sense that no matter how ridiculous his posts are (and the previous one is a doozy) he at least claims ownership of them.

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>let me clarify my post.<br /><br />You and Tom posting the SAME post for and about each other on different boards... is just laughable and sad.<br /><br />You both jump down a few notches - - although I keep wanting to give you a chance (I suspect you are nice enough guy just going about things in a strangely aweful way).<br /><br />If you and Tom were the same person (which was not my assumption) - you would have jumped down about 15 notches instead of a few.<br /><br />So although you are heading in the wrong direction - it could have been worse <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>RC</b><p>I am entering this dialogue belatedly. Haven't been around long enough to know the "good guys" from the "bad guys", but I will stick up for Joann. Her posts have been informative for me, esp. on the issue of fakes.<br /><br />Not so sure about the legalization issue though!! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />RC

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I have no idea why Joann is being chastised here and asked not to post. So that I don't have to reread the whole thread, could someone be kind enough to fill me in? Thank you.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I apologize to Tom for thinking he was Jim. I don't read the non-sports board so I didn't see Jim's post over there....I now see that this was parody aimed at Jim.