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Posted By: <b>Brad Green</b><p><br />I am curious what each of you do for a living. How do you pay the mortgage? We all collect baseball cards, but we need that paying job to be able to afford to buy these great old cards.<br /><br />I'll start the thread by saying... I'm an aerospace engineer. Specifically, I use Computational Fluid Dynamics (complex computer programs that solve the equations of fluid mechanics on multiple-processor, high-performance computers) to evaluate the external aerodynamic characteristics of aircraft.<br /><br />What do you do?<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>i'm not nearly that exotic.....i cut pork chops for a living. sometimes i even try to sell the chops i cut. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Chris Mc</b><p>I cut down trees and then plant more.

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Posted By: <b>Josh Adams</b><p>I'm an attorney. <br><br>Go Go White Sox<br />2005 World Series Champions!

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Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>Im an employment law attorney.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Kind of a dieing breed. I resell IBM, HP, Microsoft, Dell, Cisco, and other mfg's technology. We cater to small to large businesses and have an extremely efficient process for IT procurement. Soooooo biz has been a little slow for me, with all the crap I do on the board, and if anyone is looking for a real good technology supplier that can save their company some bucks on technology....lmk..We are part of a 1.2B company and have been around a long time........Also, this way I can justify what I do on the board to my management <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> well....sort of.....

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Posted By: <b>Chris</b><p>I'm a graphic/web site designer. If anyone needs a site let me know.<br /><br />Chris

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Posted By: <b>Glenn</b><p>No mortgage yet, but I'm a psychology professor.

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Philosophy Professor. Indian and Tibetan Buddhist intellectual history is my specialty.<br />JimB

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Posted By: <b>Geno</b><p>I don't have a mortgage either...the US Air Force gives me a house (or a tent) wherever I go. In return, I get to fly their airplanes! I'm actually on a three-year exchange to the Royal Air Force in England at the moment.<br /><br />Geno

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I'm retired from AT&T Bell Labs where I was a senior Electronics Engineer<br />designing Data Comm. Modems & associated interfaces for 27 years.<br /> I also taught Electronics & Radar as a 2nd job.<br /><br />My wife works at Princeton U. and I keep busy on our homestead (on several<br /> acres) in Pennsylvania. So, I am not really that "retired".

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Posted By: <b>joe</b><p>Now Retired, was Data Base Administrator at Ford Motor company.<br /><br />Now play Golf at least 3 days a week in the summer and collect Detroit players, and no mortgage either. yea!.<br /><br />Joe

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Posted By: <b>Mike Ernst</b><p>I'm senior pastor of a 7500-member Lutheran church in Suburban Milwaukee, WI. No problem with keeping busy this week.

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Posted By: <b>Mike Pugeda</b><p>Everybody's favorite....a dentist.<br /><br />Pete Ullman...are you my brother??? Just curious.

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>Large, Brown-themed Transportation company.......<br /><br />Plus I own a UPS Store where we do document services MUCH cheaper than Kinkos, laminating, binding, etc and can ship to you STILL MUCH cheaper than Kinkos (okay, someone tried to sell pork chops earlier)....<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Bill Kasel</b><p>Give me a shout Leon! I'm always looking for more hardware/software resources. I'm a Sr. Account Executive (aka: sales guy) for a technology firm in Madison, WI. I work with businesses to implement voice and data solutions to improve communications. Included with services is any hardware or software (IBM, HP, Cisco, Microsoft, Citrix, etc.) required to complete the install.<br /><br />Bill<br><br>My personal collection - <a href="http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f176/fkm_bky/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f176/fkm_bky/</a>

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Posted By: <b>John S</b><p>Biology/Chemistry teacher. I am fortunate enough to be employed by a district that encourages me to re-live my graduate school days (if any of my students publish research they pay my way to various academic conferences). Happy Easter, Passover, etc. to all.

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>I left commercial banking 2 years ago, after being in it for 23 years. I then started my own corporation last year. I am currently going through my first tax season. Life is good. I have no home mortgage. paid it off. The only mortgage I have is on some investment property, where the tenants pay the mortgage for me. Is this a great country or what? <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>thanks for giving it away mike...im a stomatologist as well!<br /><br />pete in mn

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>I am in Minnesota as well. have a great weekend. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>you too mike...i'll be at the dome tonight watching my yanks spank the twins!<br /><br />pete

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>I'm a medical ethics prof. teaching medical professionals<br />and directing a center for health care ethics.<br />My focus is on end of life issues so spend most of my days<br />dealing with PEG tubes,MRSA,and Schiavo repercussions.<br />One perk of being a dinosaur is i haven't had a mortgage in<br />years.<br />I have been wondering if i could get a student loan to buy<br />the more expensive 206's---but luckily, i get oriented to<br />space and time quickly and realize i'm not a student.<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />best<br /><br />barry

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>I cheer for the Twins, but I'm a Red Sox fan. And a Philadelphia A's fan. But I guess I won't be attending any more of their games. Besides, Connie ruined the team.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>I work in media research for a radio ratings company.

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Posted By: <b>steve f</b><p>LT firefighter/para. Luckily the bride (RN) makes higher wages therefor, I can afford to buy vintage, albeit lower-grade.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I just reliquished my title as the worlds most overqualified burger flipper yesterday. I will be starting my new job as a forklift operator at Menards next week. I actually have a job with bennies and profit sharing for the first time in almost 20 years. I think I should be scared, lol.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home, I would be arrested. So, I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: <b>Matt E.</b><p><br />I know it sounds fake and funny.....Sales Rep for a major casket manufacturer. Wife is an attorney. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I'm blessed. Still active as a real estate lawyer. Sold my office building couple of years ago. Paid off the mortgage, bought a Jag. Age 62. All the kids through college, no loans, just me and Mrs. M.

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Posted By: <b>Brad Freeman</b><p>30 plus years in private practice as an attorney in Illinois.

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Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>For the past 10 years I have been a 1st grade teacher in Southern California.<br /><br />Joshua<br /><br />PS It barely pays the mortgage.

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Posted By: <b>sonny</b><p>I practice orthodontics when I'm not surfing the net for cards. <br />Hey Geno, what kind of planes do you fly? I'm almost as addicted to planes as I am vintage cards...I fly a C172.

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Posted By: <b>Andrew Parks</b><p>I'm the Dean (Principal) at a Private Middle School. It's a boarding school so I am able to live in campus housing - no mortgage. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Geno</b><p>Sonny --<br /><br />I'm a test pilot, so I get to fly a bunch of stuff. When I was operational Air Force, I flew the C-5 and DC-9. After going to Test Pilot School, I was the chief C-130J test pilot at Edwards, also flying the C-17 and T-38. Nowadays for the Royal Air Force, I fly the C-130J, C-130K, TriStar, Tucano, and BAC1-11 (for Typhoon radar testing). I still jump in other stuff as well - yesterday I went castle spotting in a Gazelle helicopter. It's a great way to pay the bills!

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>surprised we haven't run across each other in the last 30+ years.<br /><br />Steve Murray, Arlington Heights, JMLS 74

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>My day job is healthcare consulting primarily in the areas of managed care development/contracting and strategic planning. It's a very small business but it's mine. I am also a public elected official in the itsy bitsiest of elected positions and hence the reason I have never published my real name on the open board. I learned a long time ago that these chat boards may come up on google searches.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve Dawson</b><p>I'm active-duty US Air Force (enlisted) - 21 years and counting.<br /><br /><br />Steve<br />

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Posted By: <b>ScottIngold</b><p>Commercial fisherman. 4th generation in this line of work. Also work part time at a offshore tackle store specializing in blue water gear. mortgage come's from fishing and bennies from the retail. House on the water and 2 young children will mean i will have my mortgage well into the future.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Where do you fish? My grandfather was a commercial fisherman.

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Posted By: <b>H Murphy</b><p>Professional Cow Milker, nothing like starting off the work day at 3:00 AM! Now if I could just convince them to get the internet at the barn I`d really be in business.

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Posted By: <b>ScottIngold</b><p>The family fished in the hudson for the yearly shad run. I now run things from down the shore ( Jersey ) that is. And concentrate on crabs and bait.

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Posted By: <b>Bob S</b><p>I too was a Philosophy professor (speciallizing in ethics/symbolic logic...btw, ethics is an arcane word no longer in use <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14> )) from the mid 70's thru the mid 80's Then I combined Systems engineering with futures trading until I "temporarily" retired in '95 to care for my lovely wife (who was a wonderful jazz pianist) who finally lost her battle with breast cancer in '99. <br /><br />Then after a several year period of serious depression and isolation, I resumed futures trading until my Lyme put me permanently on the shelf last year. I will live out my days very modestly slowly liquidating my collectibles. <br /><br />I am probably one of the only board members who wishes they were older than they are (I'm 58). But life is still so very sweet. Nature and its' glorious variety sustains me (after Physics and Philosophy, Meteorology is my favorite hobby..... collecting is, and has been for 30 years my mistress <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14> ), and I can live on ~15k/yr. ...yes that's not a typo.<br /><br />Best to all.<br /><br />Bob<br /><br />PS: to lighten up my post a bit more, let me add that, yes, I do realize that it reads more like a post to a support board than a vintage card board...LOL<br /><br />Additionally, I believe that within this post I have taken over the all time board record for the aggregate use of parentheses, qouotation marks, and elipses. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />One last comment...I'm a bit surprised that so far, at least there are no other current or past futures traders, or pro gamblers (same thing, really), for that matter in our group. But many more people will respond to this very interesting post, so I'm nearly certain that a few will show up. And I have managed to add to the record holding status I mentioned above in this last (I promise) paragraph. And I'm not even a juicer...ROFLMAO

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Posted By: <b>Geno</b><p>Steve --<br /><br />What do you do in the AF and where are you stationed? Twenty-one years - very impressive! I hit 16 next month...<br /><br />Geno

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>I just finshed 4 years of Culinary Arts and now working as a Sous Chef. <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1145038843.JPG"> <br /><br />Brad

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Posted By: <b>Geno</b><p>Brad --<br /><br />Do you know Crazy Horse? He was a Sioux Chief.<br /><br />I couldn't help it...sorry.

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Posted By: <b>Russ Bright</b><p>I play video games (test associate) for MS by day, and I collect cards by night.. actually with the internet i do both all day long<br /><br />and no mortgage, but i'm about to sell a condo in nashville and buy a house in seattle, so i guess i dabble in real estate

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Posted By: <b>craig</b><p>i have run my family owned video store for the last 20 years. since i manage it, i get lots of time to search for cards. i am also a musician, drummer. i spend time on the road with 1 band and lend my services to a few other outfits for studio work used in comercials, other bands, etc. i also work as an engeneer/apprentice at a studio for fun.

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I'm an equipment maint technician for Freescale Semiconductor. Still have a mortgage.

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Currently Quality Mgr for a manufacturer in West Michigan. We (Jackson Products) make personal protective equipment for the industrial market - hard hats, welding helmets, goggles, etc. I am responsible for the overall quality system, and also run the test lab where we take product and shoot ball bearings at it, drop heavy weights on it, try to ignite it, etc.<br /><br />Joann<br /><br />PS - Bob, I have a Master's Degree in Meteorology from University of Md 1984. I liked Meteo fine, just didn't want to live on the east coast at that time. So from science, to engineering - now in law school. Hard to imagine not working in a factory though. Sterile office environments make me crazy - I like my plant and the machines and hi-los and buzz of activity. So I might not have liked Meteorology anyway. And, lol, maybe the whole law school thing is not that well thought out either. Law office environment? Not unless they put a stamping press in it somewhere!<br /><br />Edited to say: OMG Geno - Sioux Chief. THAT is hilarious! Thanks for the laugh. And .. yes, mortage.

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>Geno, I don't get it!

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Posted By: <b>Keith</b><p>Veterinarian in New Jersey

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Posted By: <b>ScottIngold</b><p>Do you by chance mean sous chef ? The Souix one was funny though.

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Posted By: <b>Seth B.</b><p>I think that's a "sous chef" or, as they say in Paris, Texas an "Under chef." Some lawyers on the board might be regular ole' "Sue Chefs!" but we'll let them duke it out to see who's the "Sue Chief" <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br />I'm a doctoral student in Classics and Ancient History, which means I get paid to read about what people were up to in Rome and Greece some two-thousand odd years ago. And on the oft occasion, I teach a bit about it or spend my summers going to dig in the dirt in some sunny Mediterranean country. If you're as bewildered as I am to know that they pay me to do this delightful job, then be comforted by the fact that I couldn't possibly have a mortgage. Though I do have a baseball card collection!

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>You know what I think? LOL<br /><br />I'm a stright shooter and YOU? it's funny that some one would have to prove them self on net54! LOL<br /><br />Brad

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Posted By: <b>Rob Fouch</b><p>I'm a newspaper journalist -- mostly copy editing and page design, but I also occasionally do some writing. Always looking for an excuse to write about cards, so if anyone has an idea for a story that would appeal to the masses on Long Island, shoot me an e-mail. (I'm already thinking that in 2009 I'll pitch a "T206 turns 100" story.)<br /><br />Just recently got a mortgage for the first time, which is why I had to sell off my collections in the first place. Sold my card, comic and record collections (yes, I'm a ridiculously obsessive collector) to fund the down payment. Now that we're settled in the house, I'm getting back into collecting and decided to tackle vintage cards -- primarily T206. Already acquired more than 100 -- mostly low-grade -- with several (beater) HOFers.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Seth B.</b><p>Hey Brad,<br />Hope I didn't come off the wrong way, certainly didn't mean to offend. Actually, I'm pretty envious of you, I love to cook, but I'm nowhere near good enough to make a go of it as a job. What restaurant/what kind of restaurant do you work in?<br /><br />Seth B.

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>you have to admit that Geno's pun was excellent. You "North of the Borderers" have to lighten up. It is Springtime you know.

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>No, I'm not offended. The bored is more interesting when there is some kinda drama going on.<br />I work at the Four Seasons Hotel, French Cuisine in Vancouver Canada.

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Posted By: <b>steve f</b><p>A wise man once said, Never ever give the guy any grief that prepares your food.

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Posted By: <b>joe brennan</b><p> I pay the bills by being a Regional Manager for a major Industrial/ Medical gas supplier. I pay for my cards playing Texas Hold-em. <br><br>A scared man can't gamble and a jealous man can't work.

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>It was just a play on words, a pun......sioux is pronounced the same as sous, and the Sioux Chief was exactly that, an Indian Chief whose peoples famously fought european colonization - including many famous battles including Little Big Horn. Amongst card collectors, the reference is amusing as there have been a number of card issues from the late 1800's to middle 1900's that have featured the image of one or other Sioux Chiefs.<br />So, it was just an "In the huddle" joke, not meant otherwise.<br /><br />Kind regards<br />Daniel

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Actually, most people of the Lakota tribes consider Sioux a derogatory word since they consider their nation to be Lakota and various tribes to be Hunkpapa (Sitting Bull's tribe), Oglala (Crazy Horse's tribe), Blackfeet, etc.<br /><br />Jay<br /><br />I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home, I would be arrested. So, I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>And what do I do?<br />Well, I grow old prematurely whilst staying at home and raising(being razed by?) two beautiful over controlling kids ages 2 and 3 and a half.<br />My wife is brilliant, highly motivated, and makes more money in 1 than I could in 3 years, so I get to potty train and surf my favourite hobby. I'm planning my coming out party to the business world and should be free, free at last, free at last, in 18 months. I know as the son of a father who left when I was 7, that it is the best choice, greatest happenstance, that could have ever have eventuated and loving your kids too dearly is impossible.<br /><br />Ps. Lots of fun seeing who does what, excellent thread!

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Posted By: <b>Bob S</b><p>Joe,<br /><br />Do you play your "Hold-em" online or in the traditional manner?<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />BTW, we have as a board member a renowned author on the topic. Without prior permission from them, I don't feel it's appproprite to name them.

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Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>I am an R&D scientist with a company who makes flavors for the food industry. I spend my work day creating and tasting flavors for candy, beverages, bakery items, and anything else our customers want to put a flavor into. We do get some very strange requests from time to time.<br />I do have a mortgage and one month year old twins so my income is well accounted for. I do manage to save a few pennies for some low grade vintage cards though.<br /><br />Joann and Bob, I studied a bit of meteorology in college too. I would be working in thatfield right now if my brain could comprehend physics and calculus a little better. No complaints though.<br /><br /><br /><br />Jim

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Lakota is what they call themselves. Sioux is what outsiders and enemies called them. Whichever side of the mascot issue one takes, this gives keen insight into why Lakota wouldn't consider it an honor or privledge for a college to call themselves the Sioux. The Lakota will consider a college's choice of the name 'Sioux' to be adversarial to the tribe, condisending or ignorant ('The don't even know what we call ourselves')-- none of which can reasonably be interpreted as honoring of the tribe.

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>a people who share a geographic location and language, and also divided into tribes, whilst the term Sioux refers to a much larger grouping of indian tribes across the continental USA including the Lakota?<br /><br />IE.. Sioux Nation?

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Posted By: <b>craig</b><p>seth<br /><br />i too studied ancient history, egyptology and southwest untied states mainly. congrats on making a living at it and making it as far as you have in school. what an exciting future you have in store. if you ever get a chance to read other boards you might enjoy this one <br /><br /><a href="http://EGYPTOLOGIST.ORG/CGI-BIN/DISCUS/DISCUS.CGI" target="_blank">GUARIAN'S EGYPT DISCUSSION</a> <br /><br />if the link doesn't work here is the address<br /><a href="http://egyptologist.org/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://egyptologist.org/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi</a>

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Posted By: <b>nbrazil</b><p>currently a graduate student...also part time researcher for an education policy non profit...

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>this is a cool thread.<br /><br />Joe and Bob S. Do you play online? Party Poker or the best...Pokerstars. I'd love to get a game together. Pokerstars 2005_XKR

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>I play at <a href="http://www.pokerroom.com/" target="_blank">pokerroom</a> it's a very good place to play poker and it free!<br /><br />My poker name is Wagner_T206<br /><br />Brad

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Posted By: <b>Mark Evans</b><p>I retired last year after 30 years as a lawyer with the federal government. I'm taking up golf and attending adult education classes at nearby George Mason U. (Fairfax, Va) of Final Four fame.

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Posted By: <b>Darrell</b><p>I'm a currency trader - ironically I can't afford my mortgage for the next few months since I just paid the IRS today - <br /><br />Heading to Japan tomorrow for business - supposed to catch a Japanese baseball game in Nagoya on Wednesday night - heard they are a great time -- I think it is in a dome .... Anyone been to baseball games in Japan??<br />D

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>As David poined out, Sioux is a termed used by outsiders and enemies. This term encompasses tribes that do not included the Lakota nation, which is what makes up probably 95% of what people consider Sioux. So Sioux and Lakota are not neccessarily the same thing, just like a square is a rectangle, but rectangle isn't a square.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home, I would be arrested. So, I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: <b>Brad Green</b><p><br />This is very, very interesting! Keep 'em coming!<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>joe brennan</b><p>Bob S, I play traditional money games live. I only play tournements on line. I didn't know we had any poker players on this site. I play at pokeroom.com under..what else 2dueces..sometime we all should get together for a poker night and have a little fun. Joe<br><br>A scared man can't gamble and a jealous man can't work.

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Posted By: <b>Lyle</b><p>I am a child /adolescent psychiatrist .I don't collect vintage cards but I read this board as a means to keep up with psychiatric conditions , especially Obsessive Compulsive Disorder... Actually , I have to be honest with you ,I love vintage cards but only collect Cobbs ! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>Just email me a day in advance to play poker! <br /><br />My name is my email.<br /><br />Brad

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Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>I wrote a book on hold'em. I don't like to use my name on non-gambling public forums for search engine reasons, so I use my email id (cmoking) as my userid here. I do use my name as my id in gambling forums.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0935926259/qid=1115317783/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-7489638-5489749?n=507846&s=books&v=glance" target="_blank">Here's a link to the book on Amazon</a> <br /><br />For the most part, I try to use only gambling winnings to buy cards. The more I want to spend on cards, the harder I work playing poker and betting on sports.

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Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>"...the harder I work playing poker and betting on sports."<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />I am green with envy cmoking.

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Posted By: <b>Brad</b><p>You know what they say about people who over analyze things..........your crazy!