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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I have been "scorned" several times now (usually by the same person who always claims to be speaking for the masses) for being a "boaster" or a "show off" or a "snob" for posting pictures of my cards on this site.<br /><br />Mind you, I have never just started my own thread to show scans of my cards, but have always just contributed to whatever the thread calls for.<br /><br />If someone starts a thread asking for a scan of "Cobb/Wagner/Ruth/Johnson/Matty"... is everyone allowed to respond but me? <br /><br />If someone starts a thread entitled "New Pickups"... is everyone allowed to respond but me?<br /><br />Is there some "dollar limit" over which a card may not be shown on this board?<br /><br />Heck, the MODERTATOR of this site never fails to find an opportunity to show us his "Four Base Hits" cards and other rare type cards... but I would NEVER want him to STOP doing this because I love being able to see stuff that I don't have.<br /><br /><br />HERE IS MY REAL QUESTION:<br /><br />There seems to be, amongst some folks, a "reverence" or a "worship" for some of these collectors who hoard up a bunch of great cards and then "hide them away" and don't share them with others. <br /><br />We always hear the mantra, "There are several old time collectors who have great cards that will never see the light of day,"... or, "I know who owns that card, but he doesn't want anyone to know."<br /><br />Why is this type of collector never chastised or discussed for NOT SHARING their cards with the hobby population?<br /><br />I would understand it if we were talking about making a donation to a charity or something like that. In those instances, the "good deed" is the ACTION itself, and anyone who then goes out and crows about how much they gave is not as respected as those donors who remain anonymous.<br /><br />But this is different.<br /><br />These are like pieces of art... and I have MUCH MORE appreciation for the art owner who lets the Museum display his art for EVERYONE to see... than I do for the crusty old hermit who has his paintings in the den where only he can see it every night -- or where he can control who sees them and who doesn't.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong. I have conversed with several of these collectors, and found many of them to be very nice people. They are just very private people, and they certainly have the right to be this way.<br /><br />BUT... there are still many very easy and inexpensive ways for them to share their cards with the collecting world and MAINTAIN their anonymity. They wouldn't "lose" anything"... but the rest of the hobby would gain a lot.<br /><br />After all, what have these collectors accomplished if they go to their grave with their great collections but nobody ever knows about them? Isn't there something just a little off about someone who collects SOLELY for himself and just wants to be the king of his own little world?<br /><br /><br />Should these private collectors be forced to share?<br /><br />NO, not if they don't want to.<br /><br /><br />But should those of us who DO choose to share with others be ridiculed or scorned?<br /><br />NO, not if we are not being condescending or rude.<br /><br /><br />If I have been anything on this board, it is pleasant and humorous. If I have ever been rude or snobbish to anyone, I cannot remember it (but I certainly apologize if it happened by accident). I've always been genuine, and I am truly as excited by seeing someone win a $50 card on Ebay as I am when someone wins a $50,000 card. The beauty is in the eye of the beholder.<br /><br /><br />Obviously, I welcome civil comments about either my position or from someone who supports the opposing view.<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>hal keep the pics coming....glad to see you post them!

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Posted By: <b>DSGreen</b><p>I really appreciate seeing scans of cards in posts. I particularly like the recent pick-up threads mostly because I nearly always see a card in those threads that I have never seen before (either in a scan or in person). <br /><br />I also appreciate seeing scans of cards without mention of what people paid for the card, which is the norm on this board and I am thankful for that. I am sure this is why I have continued to lurk on this board for years and recently began posting. Many of these cards that people post I will never own and never see in person, so it is exciting to see and know that others have been able to collect them.<br /><br />Someone made a statement a while back on these boards that stuck with me - "An investor tells you what it is worth, a collector shows you what he has." When I show cards that I have collected to friends and family that have little understanding of baseball cards, the first question I get is, "What's it worth?" Now I just let them know what it is worth to me.<br /><br />I say that anyone willing to provide scans of cards should do so.<br><br><a href="http://sgccardregistry.com/index.asp?action=5&setid=244" target="_blank">Forever A Brave Collection</a>

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Posted By: <b>Cy</b><p>Hal,<br /><br />Show us your cards anytime you want. You are a strong member of this board and, frankly, for every one person who thinks you are showing off, I bet there are at least 10-15 who are thrilled to see the card and happy that a good man owns that card. Continue to show us your collection. I, for one, truly enjoy it.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Cy

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Hal,<br /><br />I far prefer that people share their cards. I've been to your website, and it's impressive. But while an alphabetical layout is efficient, it doesn't speak to any theme. Posts here allow duffers like me to link a variety of images directly with issues, topics, questions, commonalities, etc without having to put it together from a variety of sources, sites, etc. <br /><br />Second, I love seeing the really great cards - great for rarity, condition or both - that people actually own (somehow different than seeing them on auction sites). It's a vicarious thrill, I guess - kind of like watching Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, or some Yacht-of-the-Week show or something like that. lol. Your posts in the HOF thread were breathtaking. I couldn't wait to see which one you were going to be able to put up next, with four cards each.<br /><br />Finally, kind of a flip side to the second point above, I've learned something important and interesting from people's scans. Like I said, I am definitely a duffer at this. THe different scans show me that lots and lots of serious people here, well known people, will still pick up lower graded cards even in relatively common types. Somehow I had thought that everyone else was only NM and better, and I was the only one thrilled to get a Cobb Bat-off in Grade 2. I'm not sure why that was important to learn, but it was. It somehow makes the hobby seem...more inclusive? Sorry - that's poorly articulated but the best I can do.<br /><br />Anyway, Hal and everyone - post post post those scans! I don't consider it showing off or arrogant in the least. It's a service to those of us that are not as advanced as many posters here.<br /><br />My 1/50th of a dollar's worth.<br /><br />J

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Posted By: <b>Chris</b><p>Keep doing it the way you are doing it Hal. Like you always say Hal, people should collect what they want to and people should also share how and if they want to. I think the people who think you are being snobbish are just jealous. I don't consider any of your sharing to have been boastful. Heck I would have acted a lot more boastful if I had purchased a Wagner. I am personally thankful for people like you that are willing to share. My 13 year old son and I LOVE looking at your sight. I think you will find a majority of the people want you to share.

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Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>hal,<br />i thought the "show off" comments were meant as a joke....at least that's the way i took them. <br />do i wish your cards were in my collcetion....sure. am i envious of your collection...yes.<br />does that mean i don't want you to show your collection? of course not! <br />your passion for cards has always been transparent in your posts....a collector in the truest sense. <br /> <br />forget about the people who are jealous. <br />regards

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Thanks, Folks.<br /><br />Unfortunately Andy, many people have made me aware over time of snide comments that were sent to them in private e-mails from a certain individual about this issue. Thus, I can assure you that any such comments from that same individual are anything but a joke.

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Posted By: <b>Paul Griggs</b><p>I enjoy seeing everybody's cards, including yours. No problem here. Happy collecting to all.

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Posted By: <b>AParks</b><p>Share.

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Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>Hal:<br /><br />I for one, would love to know what some of the secretive collectors have in their private stashes. There are some Old Judges, for instance, that I have never seen and would love to be able to see. Heck - I can't wait to get to Fort Washington to see that Old Judge California League card in person. <br /><br />Also, having lost a few items at auction that I was very interested in (like a Cameo Pepsin Gum pin of Nig Cuppy, for example), I'd also love to know who now owns the item I wanted. (And if I can find out where they live.....<img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>)<br /><br />Keep showing your stuff, Hal. It makes some of us feel angry and jealous and others of us feel small and insignificant, but the cards are sure beautiful.<br /><br />Off to my therapist now.......<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Kevin

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Posted By: <b>Peter_Spaeth</b><p>"Isn't there something just a little off about someone who collects SOLELY for himself and just wants to be the king of his own little world?"<br /><br />Not at all, in my opinion. For some people collecting is obviously a very public endeavor, for others it is private, but that doesn't mean there is anything "off" about private people. Sorry if I disrupted the love-in. <br />

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Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>okay, hal. i wouldn't think anyone would be that rude. i guess i'm wrong.<br />

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Posted By: <b>Mark Evans</b><p>Hal--<br /><br />I support your position 100% and concur with others that any criticism of your posts is likely engendered by envy. Mark

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...is that you do not make posts which are designed to put other people down. You share your collecting experiences without trying to exclude others, based on wealth, condition or collection size. You would never start a thread like "Name The Five Richest Collectors Of Vintage Cards," and then show yourself somewhere on that list or use it as a forum to constantly discuss your Honus Wagner card. Those are the kinds of threads that rub some people, myself included, the wrong way. <br /><br />I like being in awe of people's collections. But I do not like when people tell me that I should be in awe of their own collection. I do not think I've ever seen you cross that line.

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Posted By: <b>Chris</b><p>Good point Peter. I don't think there is anything wrong with the person who gets satisfaction out of hoarding his own stash and not sharing. I just wish they wouldn't. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Thank you.<br /><br />There are a TON of collectors wealthier than I am (Charlie Sheen, Tom Candiotti and Keith Olbermann for sure!)... and I agree 100% that money should never be brought up on this site.<br /><br />Believe me, I am FULLY AWARE that if all the "private" collectors posted their cards...<br /><br />that my collection would be DWARFED by them!!!<br /><br /><br />BUT I DON'T CARE!<br /><br /><br />This is not about ego... it is about having FUN in a hobby that we all love!!<br /><br /><br />I just want to see all of the cards that I can, regardless of who owns them or how much better they might be than mine!!!<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Brian E.</b><p>Hal, please continue to share. I do agree with you that cards are like art. However, unlike the paintings I proudly display and my house guests enjoy...I can't do that with cards. Generally, "normal" people don't appreciate the card collection and I hate being asked the question of "how much is that card?"<br /><br />I suppose the only people I share my collection with are people on this board. If I couldn't share my collection, I'd probably sell it off.<br /><br />Hal, for the most part, it appears you avoid the confrontational threads on this board. I have also attempted to the do the same.<br /><br />Brian E.

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Posted By: <b>Marc S.</b><p>I love seeing other's cards - and it frustrates me that there are so many advanced collectors out there who not only do not share images of their collections - but will not share knowledge in terms of updating checklists, etc.<br /><br />I'm happy with whatever you want to share. If some here do not like it, so what? There are thousands of posts on Net 54 -- it is easy to ignore yours if someone does not like them.

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Posted By: <b>David Vargha</b><p>Show what you want. Who cares what others think? Most of the issues simply center around jealousy. That's why God is so hard on the issue of "covetousness". It's an ugly thing. I for one, enjoy seeing many cards I might never otherwise see. And whether your motivation is boasting or sharing is really irrelevant to the equation.<br /><br />As far as mentioning money -- again, so what? I like to know what the market currently is and love to hear stories about what cards used to cost. And if you have a six-figure budget for cards -- good for you. Without wealthy people, the economy of this country would stink. I still don't like attorneys, though . . .<br /><br />The devil was behind on collecting souls, so he came down to earth and approached a lawyer. The devil said, "I have an offer for you. I will make you the most succesful attorney to ever walk the face of the earth. You will have worldwide fame and notoriety. In fact, you will be one of the wealthiest people ever in history." "HOWEVER", the devil said, "In return, I will ask of you your soul". The lawyer stopped and thought about it for a minute. Finally, he looked up at the devil and stared him directly in the eyes. He asked him, "What's the catch?"<br /><br />(edited for typo)<br /><br />DavidVargha@hotmail.com

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Posted By: <b>John S</b><p>Its all good Hal, I enjoy viewing all members' cards. Keep posting.

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Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>Hal--Keep it up buddy. I enjoy your posts and your sense of humor. You are one of the reasons I check the board multiple times a day.

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Posted By: <b>Bill Kasel</b><p>Hal, I would be disappointed if you didn't show your cards. Please continue to do so. I'd much rather look at your latest E107 aquisition than some bickering fight about PSA/SGC/GAI any day.<br /><br />Your site by the way is awesome!<br /><br />Bill

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Posted By: <b>Adam Smith</b><p>Why would anyone complain about someone sharing? People do it all the time in the monthly new acquistions threads. Keep sharing those scans Hal.

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Posted By: <b>Bryan Long</b><p>I really did mean it as a joke. If you took my comments other than that I apologize. I love your collection and want to see as much of it as I can. Just in case you are speaking of me I didn't mean anything by my comment.<br><br>My website: <a href="http://photobucket.com/albums/b45/trib01/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://photobucket.com/albums/b45/trib01/</a><br />I am always looking for Walter Johnson cards. Buying or trading for T206 Johnson and Mathewson portraits.

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Posted By: <b>ChuckkieB</b><p>Hal,<br /><br />I consider it a pivilege every time you or anyone else for that matter displays their great cards in this forum. Thank you for sharing and keep it up!<br /><br />CB

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Hey Hal,<br />I love your collection and like seeing it. I personally have no issue with you showing scans of your cards. I enjoy them....However, regardless of all of the lovey, lovey, kissy, kissy going on here you will make some folks feel inferior. If anyone disagrees I would politely disagree with them. It's not even a debate in my mind. I am not saying you mean to do this but it is what it is. Some people will always think that you are bragging or showing a bit of wealth etc....We need to remember that this board is a microcosim of society and if I think something is black someone else will think it's white. I get bashed for doing nothing or doing something....it doesn't matter, sometimes. I just took my first negative on ebay (in over 690 transactions) for not banning someone from this board. It comes with the territory. Some criticism is going to happen no matter what.....I do appreciate you helping me on unrelated matters a few times and I do think you are a good guy. Just understand your position (which you do) and go with the flow sir. A lot of times I think of the question, " Is the board better or worse with so and so on it?". The board is better with you on it. You are a passionate collector that just happens to have resources beyond most. No big deal....take care....moderator dude....

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Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>I appreciate people who share their cards with the rest of us who may have no chance at actually seeing them in person and i know Hals a good enough man that if i visited my family who lives very close to him he would show me the cards in person with minimal security present <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />His website is awesome to look at,like a virtual card hall of fame so i would never want him to stop sharing scans,especially how Hal goes about "business" on the board.

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>John is right, anyone is welcome to view the cards.<br /><br />Bryan Long: NO SIR, I knew for sure you were joking! Definitely not talking about you!<br /><br />Leon: I have no doubt that some people feel inferior, but as collectors, they have certainly learned how to deal with it by now. In fact, that is what DRIVES all of us as collectors!!<br /><br />If one card was not "better or worse" than another... would ANYONE collect them at all??<br /><br /><br /><br />All ACORNS are pretty much the same...<br /><br />and that's why there is no website for Acorn Collectors.<br /><br />There aren't any Acorn collectors... because it is BORING to be able to walk out into your front yard and pick up the first acorn you see and instantly be tied for first place in the "World's Best Acorn" contest!<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>Iam glad that you share your collection -Hal. Mine maybe not as expensive as yours as some others, but Iam at a very happy medium where Iam at with them.<br /><br />Being a collector , I wouldnt trade certain cards of mine worth 10k that one would have valued at 40k. Unless someone needs the money, they should be proud of their little treas-<br />ures no matter what the value..as you sorta stated in other words.<br /><br />I collect certain players for colors reasons mostly....such as t-205's ,most of the Cardinals are gorgeous,Doc White &<br />Knight are exceptional, colorful and have a great vintage look, t206's the PORTRAITS ,mine are very big bordered &<br />nicely centered.I have 2 high grade blistering color & gold of 6 of my favorite t-205 commons, does anyone else collect like that ???<br /><br /><br />VIctorys ,B.Garters ,Mello Mints will all be shown w/ some of the others mentioned at some point. Iam a fast typer , but do not have a scanner and wouldnt have a clue to how to post them here. So-some day.<br /><br />There was a big money guy selling some cards that I wouldnt have in my collection and was surprised that he had them, but to each there own. I have to like the WHOLE overall size and color per card and this to me shows what type of collector that some REALLY are.<br /><br />Thanks<br />Good day to all !<br />

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Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>my position should be obvious from my post on another thread, but if its not, keep posting the pics.

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Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>NEWS FLASH--Starting immediately PSA will begin slabbing acorns. From now on they will be denoted as Acorns, Bcorns and Ccorns. Registry set to follow.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Hal- You are a friend and a credit to the board both in the knowledge you share with everyone as well as the pictures of your wonderful cards. You are bright and have a great sense of humor, something that I appreciate greatly. You have gone out of your way to do generous things for me and have always been a gentleman. I do recognize that some who can not afford all these rare cards may feel you are boasting a bit, but that is America. I will also add that I sometimes feel that if you get on network54 and say "good morning" the wrong way, a war of words will likely break out. It seems like anything around here can get people agitated.<br /> That said keep posting, the hell with those who oppose.

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Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>hal,<br />now you have crossed the line <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> . my daughter collects acorns....she's 3.....but she does collect acorns.<br />i would post scans of her collection, but i would be showing off. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>andrew parks</b><p>Hal,<br /><br />I live near Orlando. If I'm near Tallahassee and have some time -- I'd love to see your cards!

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Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>Hey, my 3 year old collects acorns as well. dont you hate it when the worms/bugs crawl out of them.

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Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>yes, josh i do. i also am not too crazy about finding them months after she's stashed them.

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Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>Hal, you are not allowed to post any scans of your collection unless you donate a card of my choice to my collection. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Hey, fair is fair

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Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>andy - lol<br /><br />anson - I just changed my position on Hal posting - I want a card too. Im not even going to be greedy - Hal, just send me the T227 Cobb and we can call it a day.

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Posted By: <b>Scot</b><p>Some of us don't read so good, I lik pixtuers. Thanck U.

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I don't really own a T227 Cobb... I just used the scan from your "icon image" and made my own photoshop version!<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>jackgoodman</b><p>Hal,<br /><br />I've been a collector for over 45 years and thru this forum and everyone's sharing, I've seen cards I've only read about or never even knew about. Please keep sharing with us.<br /><br />Jack

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Posted By: <b>Brian C Daniels</b><p>Hal-don't sweat it! Rocky ( Tom's attorney and Bond's pal as well) do not have stuff you do! And Scott Paris (previous heavyweight arm wrestling champion of the World and Saint Mary's school mate of both Tom Candiotti and Rocky(Balco atty),don't have the cards you do! They do however..............all Golf with really low handicaps. How's your game? And again,please post the Crawford E-102. Thanks!<br />

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I really do get pleasure from the avid collectors on this site getting to see certain cards. <br /><br />However... I get FAR MORE excited when my son's 12-year-old baseball team gathers around the computer during a road trip and I get to tell all of them about these legendary players!<br /><br />THAT'S why I have the web site, and THAT'S why I like to share.<br /><br /><br />Hopefully my doing so will eventually lead to other collectors doing the same. <br /><br /><br />I can only DREAM of finally seeing some of the great cards that are "SQUIRRELED" away somewhere.<br /><br />(HOW'S THAT FOR AN "ACORN" SEGWAY"!!!!!)<br /><br /><img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Post away Hal. Someone has to conterbalance the scans of all the crappy commons I post.<br /><br />I buried my childhood card and acorn collection in the back yard. Now I can't get to the cards because this damn oak tree sprouted over the cards.<br /><br />Jay<br /><br />I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: <b>Darren Duet</b><p>Thank you Hal for sharing images of your cards with us, and please keep them coming.

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Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>I don't post here much, primarily due to my interests currently being '60s and '70s cards. I do enjoy reading this forum because of the scans and knowledge of posters like Hal.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>JudgeDred (Fred)</b><p>Hal,<br /><br />I can't stand it when people show thier stuff off. It gets very annoying. It's really tiresome to see the same old crud over and over again...<br /><br />By the way, can I see the Reccius Wagner again along with any N167s you might happen to have stashed away...<br /><br />Actually, I save the images of many of those nice cards. If it weren't for the Hals and JCs and others that keep their images open and available to us this hobby would be kind of like a guessing game of what a difficult card might really look like. <br /><br />Thanks to all that share thier images and information with the rest of us.

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Posted By: <b>Peter Spaeth</b><p>That would be "segue" unless they spell it differently in Dixieland. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> EDITED TO ADD SMILEY

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Posted By: <b>Brian C Daniels</b><p>where is old Sam?

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Posted By: <b>Chris Bland</b><p>I love seeing peoples cards, and part of the fun of collecting is showing your stuff to fellow collectors IMO. Keep em coming!!!<br /><br />-Chris

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>why'd Greg get so mad in the first place?

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Posted By: <b>Daniel McCarthy</b><p>Hal<br /><br />Please keep the pictures coming. I appreciate your willingness to share with everyone.<br /><br />Regards<br />Dan

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Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>To post or not to post. That is the question. Whether tis nobler . . .<br /><br />Keep posting, Hal.<br /><br />Alas, poor Yorick. Good field, no hit.

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Keep them coming Hal. I love seeing your cards.<br />JimB

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Posted By: <b>Preece1</b><p>I don't think anyone is opposed to sharing. I think for a few it also has to do with wanting to stay in the background, not a need/desire to keep their cards from the public. I think if their was a website where scans of cards could be submitted on a "confidential" basis, and then they could be shared with the board but with the owner not revealed, it would bring out more cards to the public. Maybe a network 54 gallery or an Old Cardboard gallery. Maybe collectors could confidentially submit scans to Old Cardboard and under the reference section, people could see all of the cards in the set and not just a sample. My two cents. Leon, do you want another project on top of the 15 hours a day you monitor the board?

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Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>Fascination with an E102 Wahoo, Brian?

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Hal,<br /><br />Add me to the overwhelming side requesting you to keep on posting them pics!<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Shannon</b><p>Hal, your cards are super and you always contribute within the threads. Its too bad some people will always be jealous or envious of cards they cannot afford or ever have. Im happy with 1s,2s and 3s as long as they are Vintage. Keep posting Hal Shannon

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Posted By: <b>nbrazil</b><p>hal, collectors are natural exhibitionists. to lock your collection up in safe means you're not really collecting...but investing. cards, especially the ones you have, are meant to be shared with others. your website has been instrumental in helping me with my own pursuit of HOF rookie cards.

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Posted By: <b>Brian C Daniels</b><p>Hal has the king card of Crawdad. Have you seen it? It is a screemer.

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Posted By: <b>Steve Dawson</b><p>Hal, by all means, please continue to post scans of, and share your cards with us! As a member of the military, I will undoubtedly never be able to afford to get my own copies of the more popular and expensive cards that you've been able to obtain. Seeing scans here and on your website, and sharing your excitement over obtaining these cherished cards is the best I'm going to do, other than going to a show and happening to see some.<br /><br />I, in absolutely no way, consider you a "show off"!<br /><br />KEEP 'EM COMING!!!!! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br />Steve<br />

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Posted By: <b>Bill Stone</b><p>I love to see the cards posted -and your kind to share--if you have some T210's let's see them ---Thanks

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>Keep 'em comin', Hal!!!<br /><br />It's great to see the board offer so much support of a fellow collector. <br />You're right, Leon; it is 'lovey,lovey,kissy,kissy' and<br />refreshing as can be, given our tendencies lately to<br />'chew each other up'.<br />I'm glad to see the support go Hal's way, and by osmosis (somehow)<br />to all of us on the board. <br />I think I'll go buy some Christmas presents! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />fine collection and collector, Hal<br /><br /><br /><br />all the best,<br /><br />barry

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Posted By: <b>Alan Zimmerman</b><p>i mean, really, was this thread even necessary? the only purpose it serves is to kiss someone's arse. in fact, it took someone with an ego to start this pity party of a thread in the first place. it's like if someone walks around long enough saying "i'm ugly, i'm ugly", eventually someone is going to tell them they aren't ugly and then all the time they spent saying "i'm ugly" would have been worth it, because someone would have placated them, validated their existence and re-assured them. this is far and away the most masturbatory thread i've ever come across in my life. invite me to any party you want except for a pity party. this is pathetic.<br /><br />having said all that....share your cards or don't. who cares what i, or anyone else on this board, thinks? <br /><br />alan

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Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>post away hal...and when u win that e107 wagner, i hope you'll also let us know.

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>I have only read Hal's opening post, so if all of my statements have been said before by other members of the board, I apologize. First off, before I had ever heard of this board I ran into his website since he has it linked in his "about me" page on EBay. WOW, I spent 30 minutes (or more) going through every page and looking at some specific cards. It was obvious I had stumpled upon someone that wasn't your average collector. I e-mailed him and stated how much I enjoyed his website/cards. I also identified myself as a collector too, but with a far more "humble" collection. Hal took the time to respond to my e-mail. I didn't expect this. He was gracious and actually stated and implied the notion of collections are a function of when you start collecting and even though I referred to my collection as "humble" it was a collection to be proud of. Nothing about the man or his e-mail was even remotely "high and mighty."<br /><br />The criticism that Hal has received is pure jealousy. I'm jealous of Hal's collection too, but only a little bit. Sure I wish I had some of those cards. As a mature adult, the emotions that are most pronounced are admiration and appreciation. I like the fact that he shares with us. It's OK to be jealous. It's probably healthy, but showing it in a disrepectful manner is not mature or healthy. Being jealous to the point where you don't want him to show his cards is not only unhealthy, it's weird. Why would you not want to see them?

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Posted By: <b>Peter Spaeth</b><p>I see the post more as a manifestation of insecurity than ego (needing external validation in the face of criticism). That said, I think the overwhelming show of support for Hal was fairly predictable given his stature on the Board, and I assume Hal expected the same, which does kinda beg the question why post in the first place. Anyhow, the thing I found most interesting in Hal's post was his statement that there was something "off" about people who don't publicize their collections which I thought would be an interesting touchstone for further genuine discussion, but it doesn't seem to have gained much traction.

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Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>I enjoy seeing people's pics - that's one of the main reasons this board is worthwhile for me to visit. I'm glad Hal is willing to share...and it's clear that many others appreciate it like I do.<br /><br />With that said - I wouldn't expect anyone who doesn't like it to post in this thread. Whatever their reasons may be, it's clear that they will be villified if they come out and say what they feel. I'd imagine those emails that Hal has been getting are from people who have not posted in this thread.

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Posted By: <b>Alan Zimmerman</b><p>You were hoping for a nice discussion on a wider range of subject matter? Apparently you have mistaken this thread (and this board at times for that matter) as something other than what it is: a) a tool for shameless self-promotion, ego stroking and b) a place to sell your cards. some of you may say, "not true" and cite 10 threads where useful information was exchanged. i answer simply: for every rule, there are exceptions which only serve to validate the rule. those threads, few and far between, are the exception.<br /><br />For every thread filled with useful information, such as exposing a crook in the hobby, or discovering a new card issue/type, there are 20 threads, filled with bile, ranging on subjects from the ever popular "hey check out my new cards, jealous?" to "you know who sucks? PSA."<br /><br />Far be it from me to get in the middle of the boards collective handjob on one of its' most respected members. I don't want to be labeled a cockblocker.<br /><br />Anyway, continue with your fun, but don't expect the common courtesy of a reacharound.

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Posted By: <b>David McDonald</b><p>Tone it down, brah!

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Posted By: <b>Alan Zimmerman</b><p>i'm not here to win friends and influence people (obviously). i'm here to collect cards and educate myself on the hobby, not the b.s. that goes along with it...brah.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Hey Hal, I've never met you in person, but you seem like a good and honest person, who happens to have some damn expensive baseball cards. You obviously have a genuine interest and knowledge in the material. Your posts and pictures are an enjoyable addition to this board and I'm sure most would agree with me .... One person complaining loudly, doesn't make him a majority.

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Posted By: <b>Bottom of the Ninth</b><p>Hope he does not order you guys to drink the grape punch.

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Posted By: <b>Daniel Bretta</b><p>I wish more people would actually post to this site. This board does not get so much action that people should really complain much about what is posted here. Leon puts up the number of hits here on occassion and it blows me away the number of lurkers that must visit this site on a daily basis. For someone to actually complain about Hal posting pictures of his cards is just stupid. I don't care if he posts it to brag or to educate I just like to look at vintage cards. If you don't then move along you've come to the wrong place.

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Posted By: <b>Alan Zimmerman</b><p>reminds me of an old monty python bit:<br /><br />"You are ALL individuals."<br />-(crowd in unison) "We are all individuals!"<br />-(lone voice) "I'm not."<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>Hal- I think most of us here have come to the realization that we aren't going to bed Angelina Jolie but we do have girlfriends or wives who are attractive in their own right. So it is with cards, I'll never own a T206 Wagner but I am glad someone like you does and I don't mind seeing a scan of it. Post your scans, anyone who doesn't like them can just skip the thread.<br />TBob<br />P.S. Now if you ARE bedding Jolie and also own a Wagner, then I WOULD be pissed. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Andrew Parks</b><p>On second thought, Hal, I've been convinced! <br /><br />Screw being appropriate and encouraging to each other! This is all about blood - survival of the fittest - he who dies with the most toys that no one ever sees wins - screw you - but don't screw me - keep your crap to yourself - it's all about me not you - now sell me your cards for less than you paid and do it now - and shut your pie hole about that reccius card -- it's a 1 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD - it's crap!<br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>"One man plus the truth equals a majority" -- Milton Friedman<br /><br />Or, as my mom would say when someone disagreed with her, "Shows how dumb you are."

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I am also a Monty Python fan...<br /><br />and I am glad you will understand when I fart in your general direction.