off-back HOFers - if this thread doesn't exist, it should!
 

***Please share some cool less common combos for HOFers (and other popular cards)

I will probably never own a Drum/Uzit/Red Hindu, and will never have the fortitude to be a true back collector. However, I do really appreciate the off-backs and thought a good approach to the Monster would be to try to gather as many as I can with the HOFers and non-common/popular players. Here are some to share as I was itemizing my collection this weekend... Maybe some are common and probably not worth much extra, but cool to have - I always appreciate an overprint, personally.


1) SC 150/649 OP: G. Davis & Griffith Portrait
2) SC 460/42: Duffy & Joss Pitching
3) SC 460/42 OP: Lajoie Batting & Polar Bear: Smith Chi/Bos
4) Old Mill: Chase Dark Cap & Willis batting
5) Sov 350: Wajo Portrait & Walsh
6) Sov 460: Marquard & Tolstoi: McGraw Glove
7) Sov 460: McGraw Cap & EPDG: Bender

A few..

Excited to see what this thread will produce!

Huggins pop is very low w/ Tolstoi reverse. The Willis isn't that common either.

Bill

wow - that Matty PB is amazing.

Out of Dean's 4 examples you choose the Matty PB ?! 😉

One of my Favs

ha, the clean PB back jumped out at me... .

This one is probably my favorite card in my collection

My kinda thread

Not that these are going to set the world on fire with back scarcity but a few of my HoF I've picked up while building the set. I may have 1-2 more w/less common backs but those were what I could remember off the top of my head.

I don't have a lot of my cards scanned but I do keep a detailed spreadsheet and figured I share that with everyone.

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Same here. I sold my Matty Black Cap last year after owning it since the 70s. Has a special place in my collector's 'heart' and seeing one with my favorite back really got my attention.

Lots of great cards here.

Love the No Prints!

Well Done Ron

Guess who I got this from? ;)

Anyone whom may be unfamiliar should check out the PoP reports :D

Waz,
That Upside down Tolstoi is AMAZING!!

Cheers

Here’s one to add.

Thaks guys. Matty black cap is my favorite pose.

Glad I could trade one of my extra "No Print" Crawford's to someone in the Net54 family. Plus we can't forget Jay Kaplan with the help on this 3 way buy/sell/trade.

FANTASTIC STUFFF!!!

I'll join!

Here's a couple of mine...

One More toward the Dark Cap Run

I got a little more help on the Matty - Dark Cap Back Run!

Nice Matty's Greg. How many backs to you have? I'm up to 11 if I count my Coupon backs.

Love the Cycle Colton.

Cycle and Pied 42 are probably the two tougher ones left I could most likely still afford.

I'll add in this guy.

Great thread! I can add one to the Matty back run. One of my favorites.

Nice card. Its always fund when I see cards I used to own pop up in other's collection and/or for auction and I have no idea the route they took to get there. Enjoy that one -- a blank back HOFer is beast. I only gave the Griffith up because I got this to replace it

One of my favs too Ryan. Incredible card!

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Here are a few different Matty dark caps…the coupon doesn’t truly qualify, but it’s a fun card regardless

Holy moly Sonny. Those are tremendous!

Sonny has an incredible set of T206's with a mix of all types of rare backs and even a few scraps mixed in. Truly a top notch collection that is so interesting to view the non stop rarities.

Ryan, thanks for the kind words, glad you moved on from the Griffith :p And, that Collins is WoW, thanks for sharing

Luke, CB Matty well done

Thanks Dean, love me some Cycles

Sonny, you never cease to impress. Those are crazy!! BL460 HOF sighting :eek:

Awesome Thread Gentlemen

Wow Sonny, I never even knew a Matty blank back existed. Unbelievable.

Sonny, Luke, Ryan, etc...real powerhouse cards!

Here's a few...

Wow!
 

i thought i had some nice cards, you guys have some sick cards :-)

here is my bender with trees run, only need two more, BL350 and Tolstoi!

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Eh… at best, his set is slightly above average. Now, if he had 30 Uzits and 25 Drums instead of just 20 Uzits and 15 Drums, that would be another story

I knew I forgot one. Here’s another in my main set.

He may not be a HOF'er, and perhaps is on the fringe of the popular T206 player clique, but my run of Gaavy 'Cactus' Cravath has some less common backs, including the American Beauty, Cycle, and EPDG, and even a not shown but tough Sweet Caporal factory 25.

By the way, he led the National League in home runs 6 seasons, and if he had hit one more in 1916 he would have had a string 7 consecutive home run crowns.

Brian

Amazing cards everyone, Sonny that BL !!! Love the blank Colton, I think I got it from Ryan and only moved it for the Chance blank.

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lol, and this whole time I figured you would say, it's not a set without a Honus Wagner and Joe Doyle N.Y. Nat'l Hands Up. :D Even if Sonny had 10 more Uzits and Drums, than he currently has, he would still get the Most Humble T206 Collector Award.

My contribution to this great thread:

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Chris,
Those are great! I think Ryan got the Griffith BB from Luke, but I’m not sure. He has quite the provenance already, haha

Love that Cylinder Ghost! I’ve always thought those were super neat and that Chance Blank Back was worth moving ole Clark, glad it all worked out

Cheers

can post a few rarer ABs

Very nice Jeff. I feel like I may have met that Collins before... As someone who has completed a full Tinker bat off back run, I can attest firsthand as to how F-ing tough that Tinker AB 460 is.

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these cards are awesome. what a terrific thread to scroll through.

Jeff,
Awesome Showing, Well Done Sir

Hey guys,

I'm not certain I understand this term...."off-back". Whatever, here are some HOFers from my collection....


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TED Z

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Cliff, it looks like you're missing one of these :D

Not completely up-to-date but here is my HOF back run in progress

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Absolutely awesome stuff guys!

Bill

Since we appear to be including T213-1 and T215-1 cards in this thread:

Let me add a couple
 

Here are a couple

Ted, I'm with ya, regarding "off-backs"...they've just always been known as "rare backs" to me.

Here's a few more...

The "Off Backs" term started being used around the same time I started using the "No Print" term, mid 2014. Both kinda confusing, especially if you were to ask a person with no baseball card knowledge, what they thought the terms meant. I honestly didn't think "No Print" would stick around, but then PSA started using the exact term. I came up with it as a partial phrase that T206resource would use, when they would say a card is a Probable No Print, meaning, possible but not likely. The actual "No Print" cards are listed on T206resource as just "No", so since I found them, they were not Probable, and they were not No, so I just used "No Print" to describe them.

As far as "Off Backs", in the early 2010's, there was me and one other person that was activly working on a set of T206's with no Piedmont or Sweet Caporal backs. Everyone else was still adding Piedmont's and Sweet Caporal's to their 520 set. There were a few single back collectors, like Ted with his Sovereign's, and a few others. I want to say it was Scott, who was the other collector of the non Piedmont and Sweet Caporal back set. But it was a while ago, and with so many collector's, I can't remember. Nowadays, there is a decent sized group of collectors, especially on Facebook's Tobacco Row, that build the "Off Back sets, usually raw, in binders. I never got into the binders for the original T206's.

I hope this help's with at least an origin and timeline of the terms, even if they were not thought out at the time.

Ted,
You two weren’t the only ones back then ;) I was just on a smaller scale

Same here. Just flew below the radar

I started my "mid-tier" (:)) set about 8 years ago (Range: PB to P42).

Agree, "back in the day" there were only a handful of "off-back" // "rare-back" // "what ever you want to call them-back" (:p) collectors ............ Now it seems like almost everyone is into them.

"the more the merrier" ................. ;)

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Fun, fun, Scott :rolleyes:

Back then, I only remember the two of us being very open about what we were doing. Maybe a few other's were doing it secretly, but now it's more of a normal way to collect the set. To a point where it seems like it's 50/50. Half building traditional any back sets, and the rest building the off back/rare back sets. I remember sharing my numbers for a set with no Piedmont, Sweet Caporal, Sovereign, Polar Bear, and Old Mill. Except where you have no other option, but to use a Polar Bear, Sovereign, or Old Mill to reach 520. Now I know of a couple collectors upgrading their backs to the Tolstoi, EPDG, Cycle, American Beauty, and Hindu backs. That's a fun one.

I remember in the 1980's, people began using the word "bad" to mean "good."

I guess that's what's going on here. From Meriam-Webster's online thesaurus...
"off", adjective, over 400 synonyms, i.e.- "wrong, unacceptable, poor, lame, bad, deficient, terrible, horrible, awful, pathetic, wack, crummy, inferior, worthless, common, bush-league, trashy, cheesy, second-rate." etc. etc. Their words, not mine.

These are bad...

I like all the backs! The way I’m doing a set of 520 is to try to get as few duplicate backs per team as possible. It’s been fun and frustrating and many here have been a big help. Hopefully wrapping up Washington with 0 duplicate backs in the next few days. Cincinnati won’t be far behind but there will be at least 2 duplicate backs there.

Love this thread. Here's a few more tougher Cycle460s -

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Ted, I am not sure the cards I started the post with would be considered "rare", so I included the term "off" back. Maybe not the correct term, but it allowed me to incorporate some SC factory 42s that I like and still maintain the integrity of the post!

All I can say is WOW!

[QUOTE=2dueces;2345799]All I can say is WOW![

Joe, if it is any help, I once held a Griffith PSA7 with a Drum back. Sadly, long gone.

some really great cards shown. I always love the rare backs.
Thanks for sharing!

and here is one from my previous collection. Glad MVSNYC got it....

Leon, thanks for the shout out. I love the Cy Young Hindu.

I have to tell you...I just did a big trade, involving several MAJOR rare backs (I'll post more about it next week)...Well, the Cy Hindu was on the table, but I just couldn't let him go, I decided to hold onto him. I love the card too much...besides it being a great looking example...my son, who's big into T206 collecting now, said- "You can't let him go, he has an award named after him!" Smart boy. :)

That Hindu Young is a beauty, Mike. Smart move to hang on to that one.

A couple more.

off-back HOFers - if this thread doesn't exits, it should!
 

I picked up this Cobb recently…

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off-back HOFers - if this thread doesn't exits, it should!

Probably all the T206 haters are thinking this thread so go away just like it says in its title.

It took me a couple of weeks to notice the mispelling. And I just intentionally misspelled misspelling, so as to prove the point that even misspelled words can still get the meaning arcoss.

Brian (not a T206 hater...great cards everyone)

I noticed the spelling error on the first day of the post. I figured it would be caught and fixed, but everyone started posting and sharing, with no problems. So I figured it really didn't matter, and let it slide. I had to respond, because the error was finally brought up. They say, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Maybe nowadays, during so many changes in the human life, If it's broke, just leave it broke.

Being a severe dyslexic, I never noticed. Even as pointed out, it still took me a minute to see the mis-spelling ................... :p

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Heck, I'm such a bad speller, I'd probably misspell Jon ........... ;)


Fun, fun, Scott :rolleyes: