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MVSNYC 02-17-2023 08:24 AM

They're Called Rare Backs...
 
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Not sure when the term "Off Backs" came about, seems like just over the last few years...When I started collecting T206 in 1991...we just called them Rare Backs. I still do. Ted'll tell ya! :)

So, let's see some Rare Backs...

Leon 02-17-2023 08:47 AM

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"off back" sounds like it's a bad thing. Rare back is much better...

MVSNYC 02-17-2023 09:25 AM

I agree Leon!

And, that’s a bad-ass Uzit!

Cory 02-17-2023 09:39 AM

Would you call polar bear, old mill and sovereign rare backs? Technically I guess they really are, but not compared to uzit, drum, etc. Of course if I was selling any uzits or drums they would be labelled as ultra rare or something to that effect. I use the term off back to denote anything not peidmont or sweet cap.

Eggoman 02-17-2023 09:55 AM

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ONLY 4 on PSA's Pop Report...

RCMcKenzie 02-17-2023 10:55 AM

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"Off Back" sounds like "Off Brand", which suggests a lesser known product that is often discounted, like knock-off shoes. For medium scarce backs like Polar Bear, I would say, "tougher" or "more difficult" back.

Making progress on AB350NF. Here's Murphy from Sterling. I think this puts me at 23/37. I have not added to my checklist since Jan 22, so I may have missed a few.

tonyo 02-17-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 2315390)
Not sure when the turn "Off Backs" came about, seems like just over the last few years...When I started collecting T206 in 1991...we just called them Rare Backs. I still do. Ted'll tell ya! :)

So, let's see some Rare Backs...

I've been wondering the same thing for the last couple of years.... where did that come from? & something about "off back" just doesn't sound right to me.

I'm not a long time t206er (started in '07) but "rare backs" is what I learned.

Actually I often refer to old mill, polar bears, sovereign, epdg, tolstoi, american beauty, cycle as "less common backs" I've never owned any carolina brights, uzit, brown hindu , broadleaf, lenox, drum

Casey2296 02-17-2023 11:25 AM

"Off-Back" reminds of someones least favorite child.

DeanH3 02-17-2023 11:36 AM

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I don't have any extremely difficult backs so these will have to do.

stutor 02-17-2023 12:06 PM

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Maybe ‘off back’ is better suited for cards such as these...

t206fanatic 02-17-2023 12:13 PM

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a few AB460 backs

MVSNYC 02-17-2023 12:18 PM

Great cards, guys! Keep 'em coming...Sonny, Jeff, wow!

I agree with a lot of the comments/terminology above...common, less common, tough/difficult, tougher/more difficult, extremely difficult, rare, very rare, extremely rare, ultra rare, uber rare.

:)

Sean 02-17-2023 12:32 PM

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I have a rare front:Attachment 558066

Sean 02-17-2023 12:36 PM

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Less rare than weird: Attachment 558069

Sean 02-17-2023 12:52 PM

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MVSNYC 02-17-2023 01:04 PM

Wow, awesome cards, Sean! Thanks for sharing.

Mjpadilla84 02-17-2023 01:07 PM

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Great thread started here, some amazing rare backs. Here is my Jennings Lenox Brown Back, the only one that exists I believe.

Vintagedeputy 02-17-2023 01:11 PM

This is all very amusing to a guy who just collects these because they’re baseball cards with baseball players on the front. Tobacco ads be damned!

t213 02-17-2023 01:15 PM

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some of my rare backs

Zach Wheat 02-17-2023 01:55 PM

Nice cards all! Love those "rare backs".

atx840 02-17-2023 02:13 PM

My kind of thread, amazing cards everyone!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...332cdf82f4.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...227487b2e6.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b2a222835a.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9bef1bd200.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...004a041070.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e504964d47.jpg

MVSNYC 02-17-2023 02:34 PM

Man, some great cards!

Chris, bravo!

Eric72 02-17-2023 02:44 PM

Off back? Wouldn't that be a skinned OJ?

wazoo 02-17-2023 04:02 PM

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I think I know why they call them offbacks…

Natswin2019 02-17-2023 04:19 PM

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My favorite rare back. Combined pop of 7

Cmvorce 02-17-2023 04:25 PM

Jeez talk about eye candy. Incredible cards, everyone.

Rhotchkiss 02-17-2023 08:01 PM

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How about a proof blank back, 3 old mills - blue, brown and black- and a Cy Young Ghost multi-strike, with a brown old mill

BobC 02-17-2023 08:27 PM

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Some other rare backs.

MVSNYC 02-17-2023 08:54 PM

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Man, this thread is fun!

Ryan, wow.

If we're posting miscuts, here's a drastic one...

RCFire82 02-18-2023 12:36 AM

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+1
👍

2dueces 02-18-2023 01:55 AM

It’s amazing what collectors have learned just in the past 40 years about T206’s. I was completely naive to backs in the 70’s-80’s while searching 500 count boxes of T206’s. No telling how many rare backs I passed over for a $1 or $2. No telling how many I traded away or passed through my hands. I did manage to keep some semi rare backs in my collection by accident.
Anyone else or am I the only one?

Eggoman 02-18-2023 05:40 AM

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Hey Joe:

Since YOU admitted it FIRST - so will I!

But I DID find a keep a couple that caught my eye!

nineunder71 02-18-2023 08:08 AM

Greg, That Stoney Cycle is Amazing!! Congrats

nineunder71 02-18-2023 08:14 AM

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Here’s one

I’ve really only been into rare or off-backs since I started collecting T206s. The common backs just never did it for me

2dueces 02-18-2023 11:16 AM

Greg, You sure did save a couple beauties!

Eggoman 02-18-2023 11:45 AM

THANKS, Joe & Colton!

SOMETIMES a guy gets lucky!!!

;)

mybuddyinc 02-18-2023 12:50 PM

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Relatively Speaking, these two aren't terribly "rare" backs ....... But the player combos could be considered, let's say, "scarce" ............. ;)

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Fun, fun, Scott :rolleyes:

Casey2296 02-18-2023 01:30 PM

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Some amazing cards posted.

E-card guys need a little rare back representation on this thread.
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fkm_bky 02-18-2023 02:18 PM

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Not necessarily a rare back, but less than 10 of the front/back combo makes this one a bit "rare" or scarce.

Bill

Tripp Trapp 02-18-2023 02:41 PM

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Not necessarily a rare or uncommon back, but unique in its own right.

wazoo 02-18-2023 07:32 PM

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I’ll go blank

brass_rat 02-18-2023 08:31 PM

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:)Sometimes they are so rare, they are called "no prints"...

Great cards, everyone


Edited: I missed the point, I should have shown a rare back, not a rare combo. Ooops :)

brass_rat 02-18-2023 09:28 PM

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Fixed... Here's a T206 rare back

MuncieNolePAZ 02-19-2023 05:23 AM

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Fixed... Here's a T206 rare back

Definitely qualifies. Incredible!

Chad

nineunder71 02-19-2023 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brass_rat (Post 2316000)
Fixed... Here's a T206 rare back

:eek: Wow, Amazing

Eggoman 02-19-2023 06:10 AM

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WOW!

I hate to follow the Walter Johnson Drum Back with this one, but...

Here's a BEATER, BUT a RARE back, too!

Please give Fred some love, too!

tedzan 02-19-2023 07:37 AM

Two HOFer's with rare red HINDU backs......

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...induDuffyA.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...induDuffyB.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...induWheatB.jpg




And, two "should have been" HOFer's with rare red HINDU backs......

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50b.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...inRedHINDU.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...RedHINDUbx.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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tedzan 02-19-2023 07:45 AM

If you are adventurous enough to hunt for the "Elite 11" cards, you will find Spencer very difficult to find.
Moreso than the other 10 rare Elite 11 cards with PIEDMONT 350 backs.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...P350%20_2_.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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alywa 02-19-2023 08:01 AM

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A couple to share… not the rarest but still pretty cool

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Luke 02-19-2023 10:59 AM

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I don't like "off back" either. I think the problem is there isn't an obvious easy way to convey that the back is tougher than Piedmont but not actually a rare back. Me and Scott tried to get "mid-tier" back going like 5 or 6 years ago but it didn't take. I hope people keep trying because "off back" sounds like something that's worse than normal.

Here are a few "mid-tier" backs:

lug-nut 02-19-2023 11:08 AM

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Not sure if I was the last owner but I used to own that Howell miscut back, great card!

atx840 02-19-2023 11:43 AM

Let's keep it going.

Amazing WaJo Drum!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0f1977e9_c.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/2921/1...ede14426_c.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8d8d52b4_c.jpg

boneheadandrube 02-19-2023 11:56 AM

Maybe not Rare but Tougher?
 
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stutor 02-19-2023 12:05 PM

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Great cards everyone....that Wajo Drum...oh my!!!

MVSNYC 02-19-2023 12:07 PM

Luke, Chris, Sonny...great cards!

I also like "mid-tier", or "2nd tier" for backs like Cycle, Old Mill, Tolstoi, Sov, EPDG, etc.

big-six 02-19-2023 01:02 PM

Beautiful cards- love this site
 
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brianp-beme 02-19-2023 01:24 PM

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Great backs everyone. I am a front fellow myself, and probably don't deserve membership in the back fraternity, but I will share the two least common T206 backs that I have.

I have learned to live with and not disdain the stain on Griffith. And like Ted pointed out earlier with his Elite Eleven post, sometimes a Piedmont can be an exotic bird indeed, like my Factory 42 Street.

Brian

tedzan 02-19-2023 02:00 PM

As Ringo Starr would sing.... "It Don't Come Easy".... this SOVEREIGN 460 card of Cobb is not an easy card to find.
I would consider it quite rare.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...obbSGCx50b.jpg




Red Cobb SOVEREIGN 350 is considerably easier to find.....but, tough.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...RedCobb25x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ign350x25b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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DeanH3 02-19-2023 04:56 PM

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A couple more and a non-T206 toughie.

tedzan 02-19-2023 07:00 PM

Looking for "RARE"....then try collecting these seldom seen 1910 COUPON cards. Displayed here are the Six Super Print subjects of the T206 set.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...poncobb50x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edCobb75xb.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...uponChance.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...onChanceBx.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...everschase.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...schase25xb.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sedkcap38x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...apChase50b.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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KCRfan1 02-19-2023 11:47 PM

Amazing cards everyone!

MuncieNolePAZ 02-20-2023 06:11 AM

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A few of mine.

Chad

gonzo 02-20-2023 08:14 AM

T205s
 
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Meanwhile, in the back of the classroom, the T205 Gold Borders ignore Professor Burdick and toss spit wads at each other.

Leon 02-20-2023 08:59 AM

Nice T213 Coupons, Ted!!


tedzan 02-20-2023 10:24 AM

I appreciate your compliment, Leon.

And, some more T213 cards of my favorite T206 guy.........
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Buffalo50x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lueChase50.jpg

. . . . . . . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...loT213x25b.jpg . . . . . . . . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ueChase50b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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mybuddyinc 02-20-2023 10:29 AM

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.............. yes, Luke, they are called "mid-tiers" ............. :)

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Fun, fun, Scott

MVSNYC 02-20-2023 10:58 AM

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Nice cards everyone!

I'd personally draw the line at Hindu...putting them just above that mid-tier category.

(*Scarcity list taken from T206 Resource.)

Eric72 02-20-2023 04:04 PM

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The scarcest back I've gotten thus far...Rube Geyer front. Or is it back? With T206 cards, the picture is on the back; the main attraction is the ad, right?

Rhotchkiss 02-20-2023 04:14 PM

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Here are examples of 1-10 on Mike's scarcity list, and I added the Blue Old Mill

Marslife 02-20-2023 04:18 PM

Getting Buggy over here!
 
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this is the kind of infestation I can get behind....

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MVSNYC 02-20-2023 04:45 PM

Ryan, that’s awesome!…Not too many people can post all of those.

tedzan 02-20-2023 06:50 PM

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Ryan, that’s awesome!…Not too many people can post all of those.

I cannot, however......

OK....this display may come close :)

I posted these backs alphabetically, since I don't agree that a couple of them are in the correct order on that list.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ffAB460x50.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sHand50xbx.jpg



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...0blueChase.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eaf460back.jpg



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ze/CBx37xb.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Willett19b.jpg



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...CLE460x25b.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...dDRUMx25bk.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50b.jpg



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...6xLENOXx37.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...iedmont42b.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dCross50xb.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ZITxSGC30x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...loveUZITxb.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yBlankBack.jpg . .http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BlankBackb.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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tedzan 02-21-2023 05:07 PM

T206 A - B - C - D connection
 
T206 dudes......

Are you in for a different challenge ? Try putting together an American Beauty - Broad Leaf - Cycle - Drum backs connection.
American Litho printed 190 subjects in their 350-only Series of the T206 set with these 4 rare backs.

I have yet to find the blue Chase with the DRUM back. I'm an optimist; therefore, I expect that it will eventually be discovered
for me to complete this tough A - B - C - D connection.

Furthermore, you can up this challenge by including the desired subject's 1910 COUPON card (there are 48 subjects to choose from).



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...uplcate75x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LxCOxCYx25.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ldDRUMx25b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Seiklis 02-21-2023 05:33 PM

Let's get some more non T206s in

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=32087

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=18080https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=18081

And the newbie

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=35398https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=35399

Leon 02-21-2023 05:52 PM

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Non T206s

brass_rat 02-21-2023 06:25 PM

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Great Holmes, Leon... No paper loss on that one!

Very nice top 10, Ryan.

t206fanatic 02-21-2023 06:31 PM

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Have posted it before but its a good front back combo

atx840 02-21-2023 06:53 PM

Wow Brass and Jeff, bringing out the big guns!

Just acquired in a trade, thanks Mike! :cool:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1464de82_z.jpg

MVSNYC 02-21-2023 07:05 PM

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My pleasure Chris. Enjoy!

Here's some rare backs. :)

brianp-beme 02-21-2023 08:08 PM

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Maybe not the rarest, but every once in a while a nice Big-Tayto-Loaf hits the spot.

Brian


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