If anyone wants to do sub with new PSA special, I can do SMALL one! Ad Adendum!
 

Please keep it around 20 cards or less per person. I am STILL holding out hope grading will get back down to $10 or so, but so far, no dice. The special is for VINTAGE ONLY and can't be any outstanding cards, as the value is $200 or less. They MUST be normal.....and can only be sports.

If anyone is interested, respond here.

I'm always game for a few.

I'm in!
 

I'm in on this one.

Send to ROBERT WILLIAMS, PO BOX 61362, RALEIGH, NC. 27661-1362

Include a slip of paper stating the cards, what you value them at should PSA lose them, your return shipping address and your Net54 handle so I know how to contact you.

Cards MUST be in Card Saver I's, 2's are OK, but I use 1's and I like uniformiity. NO TOP LOADERS.

Price is $15 per card, plus $2 per card to cover shipping to and from California.

I appreciate you putting this group together, and all the hard work that goes into it. I think I've participated in every group you've done during the past two years.

What's the drop-dead deadline to send the cards to you?

Thanks Bobby! Count me in please

It's a short month, so let's say the 17th.

Hi Bobby,
Count me in for about 8 or so cards. Thanks!

Are you taking people you haven't dealt with before for your submission?

I have 2-4 cards that I have set aside for an eventual trip to PSA.

I'm in for 2 or 3 cards thanks.

I'm assuming exhibits are too large for this sub?

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Bobby

I will send 10

Thanks!

Everyone right now trying to do the math to determine if the original cost you paid for a card, plus the per-card sub price, and the cost of shipping to and from Bobby, could possibly make sending in a card valued at less than $200 worth it...while also factoring in how little the card will be worth after PSA waaaaay undergrades it... :D

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In for about 10 cards

Yes that's fine.

Yea..Exhibits I think are too big......

Does anyone know if it is ok to use Humongous Hoard #1 savers for PSA submissions or does it really have to be Card Saver 1's? I have a ton of the Humongous Hoard that I would like to use.
Thanks!

I'm in for 2 cards. Thanks.

I’m in.

On my 2023 to do list...
 

so I'm in for a few.

I have no idea what Humongus Hoard is...what is that?

Oh....those are top loaders. No top loaders. It is wayyyyy easier to get cards in and out with card savers.

Here's a weird question, is there an upcharge fee schedule?

In other words, you send in a $200 value card and it grades out better than expected (HA! HA! HA! God, that's funny!!! When does a card ever come back graded higher than expected???) and they hit you with an upcharge. Does that fee vary? Say the card is deemed to be worth $400, is that added fee the same amount as one deemed to be valued at $500, $600, etc.? And what amounts are these upcharges? Is there a sliding scale?

It would be nice to have that specific info in order to weigh the risk of submitting cards that could possibly breach the $200 mark.

Bobby,
I'm in for three.

I think it’s based on the different service levels on their website, which specify the price points and max values.

https://www.psacard.com/pricing

If there are multiple service levels with the same value limit, then I think you pay for the lowest service that your item qualifies for.

So I’m interpreting this to mean that you would pay $25 for an item valued up until $499, and from $500 to $1,499 in value costs $75. Hard to imagine you would pop above that level without seriously misunderestimating the value of your item.

I’m in
 

Here we go again!

In for 8, thanks!

Thanks for the info. Appreciate it!

I'm in for one lonely card!

Bobby,
I have lost your P/P F/F addy. Please let me know what it is. Thanks.

I got your package today...I will PM you again once I get it entered.

Rog that. Thanks much.

I have 4 cards to throw in if that’s ok. I have been wanting to join the group sub for awhile I think the time is now! Thanks for doing it.

Yep...it's happening.

It's sad when you're digging through your stuff to find nice, valuable cards to get graded...but then you have to hope they have problems that devalue them enough to get them beneath the $200 value limit!!! :eek:

It's challenging that's for sure....$200 is next to nothing.

11 cards are in the mail. PM sent as well. Thanks again!

At first, I had a difficult time finding cards below the threshold. However, I then found a pin and went to work. A pinhole here, a pinhole there and the problem was easily solved! :p

We are closed. Got 4 packages today.....let me know if you sent one.

going out tomorrow.

Thanks again for doing this!

Thanks much, Bobby. Appreciate it.

Thanks, Bobby. I'll see you in August 2023, when this sub returns from California! :D

tick tock.

We officially logged in today.

Thanks, Bobby. Does mid-July sound about right?

I sent in a vintage order of 70 cards for this same special on Feb 27th. It moved to 'Grading' yesterday. Will follow along in this thread to see how things are moving, and if I get any updates, I'll try to remember to post them here as well.

I'm hoping sooner but who knows anymore.

Sounds great!! Thanks.

Slowed down
 

Seems like the good folks at PSA have slowed down of late. Modern stuff flies right through. But my vintage pieces are languishing. For example, my submission from October just recently landed at the assembly phase. I’m guessing I still have another month or two. So 6+ months seems like it could be par for the course for vintage pieces at the bulk submission level.

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I have heard this from other submitters as well. It begs the question if PSA is using different graders for different eras......

A little bit tin foil hat on my part, but nonetheless...

SGC has been making a huge move on later 2022 and recent 2023 releases to take advantage of PSA backlog and establish themselves more firmly in the ultra-modern market.

SGC has run some really consumer-friendly promos on the newer stuff lately. Their 2022 Bowman Chrome special was a huge run for $9/card.

PSA is still king of volume by a lot, but SGC wants a bigger piece.

My experience suggests that they are indeed. And they staffed up heavily to handle the huge volume on the modern side over the last couple of years. Now that modern submissions have dropped dramatically, modern submissions seem to be moving quickly.

For example, I had a modern submission at the economy level that was about a month door to door. Just sent it in January, so it’s pretty recent history.

Moved to grading today....that was fast.

Wow!! Sure was.

I’ve been buying, and am ready for the next sub group. Let’s go!

10 day bump! Let's goooo!

Let's see how long we can keep up that level of enthusiasm. Usually about the time you give up is when they finally get 'er done.

I have learned to have the patience of Job in dealing with PSA.

Yes grasshopper!

Bobby and I talked a few hours ago. He told me this submission group’s grades just popped. However, work has him bogged down. He hopes to post the grades later today - around 2:00 pm (EST). Bobby said the grades really surprised him. He thought PSA assessed some generous grades. Hope all my grades exceed expectations. Good luck to everyone. Bobby, thanks for doing these submission groups, and for all your hard work.

Awesome. I have low expectations for my submissions, but I paid a price for the raw cards appropriate for a PSA 1.5 - 2 type return. That makes the chance of a random "authentic" knock a bit easier to stomach if that happens. If i break through a PSA 2 on either, wow, bonus.

They're just a couple pieces for my graded Cubs notables/greats/legends.

Appreciate the chance to get into the group sub and I really appreciate the work of bobbyw8469/Robert. Thanks.

Thanks, appreciate the update and thank, Bobby, for all your work!!

PSA just called me with some bad news. Unfortunately, they have misplaced the box. This marks the 2nd time they have lost one of my orders. I will get back with everyone later. They pay out at what the declared values were at the time of submission.

Grrrrreaaaat. Fun stuff

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April fools joke…..that’s too easy!

Unbelievable. I go from praising PSA’s quick turnaround time and allegedly assigning great grades to cursing its incompetence in losing our package. What a flipping rollercoaster ride. Uhh. :mad:

They have a habit of doing this every April 1st!!!

So which one is the April Fool's joke? That PSA already graded the cards or that they're lost? Or both?

That they graded higher than expected.;)

lolololol!!

I got a call yesterday they destroyed one of my cards taking it out of the holdver, so anything is possible

Both were jokes. Grading is not complete. Package was not lost.

Now I'm disappointed and relieved. Well done! I'll go back to hoping we'll get them by the summer.

There is a bit of unintended tranquility in that April Fools' prank. (Well done, Bobby!!)

Everyone's visceral reaction of, "NO EFFIN' WAY!!!!!!!! THEY LOST MY FRICKIN' CARDS?????????!!!!!!!!!!!", will now be replaced by a feeling of being extremely fortunate that nothing went wrong. The end result? When the cards do finally come back with waaaaay lower numbers than they should've gotten, we will all be able to accept it more easily, as we'll just be happy that they didn't lose our stuff. A little pre-easing of our pain, if I may 'Field of Dreams' it. :cool:

I just had fed ex lose a package, first time for everything! The say I signed for it, meanwhile I was out front at the specified time. Never had issues with usps.


We have an over/under yet on poppage?

Before June. ;)

From what I'm hearing, PSA is going over on their turn around estimates for vintage subs by about 2 months. I seem to recall that these were quoted with a 65 day turnaround (which translates to 3 months as they only count business days). So maybe 5 ish months total if they're keeping up that pace? Hopefully it's sooner, but that puts these at late July if accurate.

Still in grading. I predict July as well.

One thing I am noticing is that submissions seem to linger for longer at some of the late stages. My previous experience is that QA1 and QA2 used to go pretty quick. Maybe a couple of days, or a week at most.

The last couple of large(ish) vintage submissions that I submitted have lingered for multiple weeks at each of those stages. Maybe there was something that went wrong with my submissions that was unique to just my pieces, and they had to fix it. Or maybe those processes are just a bigger bottleneck now.

I experienced some movement while the orders were not showing up. However, mine is all pre 60s