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bnorth 12-16-2022 05:13 PM

Weather at your house
 
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I took this picture a couple hours ago. We have had 4 days of crap weather. Today wasn't bad just 30 mph winds. The previous 2 days was blizzard conditions with 30+ mph wind with 50+ mph gusts. Gotta love that sideways snow. Then luckily the day before that it was mostly rain and slush or we would have gotten a lot more snow.

Looks like it might be a day or 2 before we can grill and use the picnic table. It is a warm 15 out now. The next 7 days will have double digit below zero lows. Highs will vary between 9 to -10 for those 7 days.

What is it like at your house?

G1911 12-16-2022 11:22 PM

It was in the 40's F this morning, which is cold here, so I had to turn on the fire pit while I worked in the yard :D

Mark17 12-17-2022 01:43 AM

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This. And next week, single digit temps are forecast.

G1911 12-17-2022 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2294945)
This. And next week, single digit temps are forecast.

On the plus side, that's a beautiful view.

mrreality68 12-17-2022 05:17 AM

Looks beautiful.

My neighbor is just wet and windy and overcast so nothing to take a picture of.

pawpawdiv9 12-17-2022 11:49 AM

looks like we (might) get a wintry mix down here in the South- Georgia by Friday!!!
It gonna be damn cold for sure in the teens

icurnmedic 12-18-2022 10:54 PM

I guess I need to quit whining about 35 degrees in NC.
Bless you northerners !

jimmer77 12-19-2022 04:47 PM

I don't have any pics, nor would I know how to post some (would like to learn how), but where I am in Central WI, it looks very similar to the above pic a couple of posts up. We are expecting more snow late in the week, up to a foot...not to mention the sub zero temps.

steve B 12-20-2022 07:54 AM

30's - 40s here, lows maybe in the 20's. Yesterday was 40, but oddly felt a bit raw like it was going to snow, but it didn't.

Cliff Bowman 12-20-2022 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9 (Post 2295087)
looks like we (might) get a wintry mix down here in the South- Georgia by Friday!!!
It gonna be damn cold for sure in the teens

I usually don't go to my Mom's place in central Florida until the New Years weekend but I am gone this Thursday to get away from this.

Rad_Hazard 12-20-2022 02:08 PM

It's freezing here with tons of snow. Supposed to be -25F on Thursday with a heavy duty winter storm coming through.

Counting the days to when I get to move to Arizona...

GasHouseGang 12-20-2022 04:09 PM

Mid 60's today and it's supposed to be 80 degrees by Christmas. Hohoho!

bnorth 12-20-2022 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rad_Hazard (Post 2296081)
It's freezing here with tons of snow. Supposed to be -25F on Thursday with a heavy duty winter storm coming through.

Counting the days to when I get to move to Arizona...

Luckily only cold and windy here. I did shovel a path to the grill today so I can grill steaks in a few minutes.:)

Thu 22 -6°/-11° Mostly Cloudy/Wind NW 25 mph

Fri 23 -7°/-21° Partly Cloudy/Wind NW 24 mph

I am waiting to move to the Oregon coast. Rain beats below zero every day. I wish that housing crash would hurry up and get here. Ocean front property is priced as ridiculous as cards now.

nebboy 12-20-2022 06:05 PM

Schools cancelled already for Wednesday wind chile expected to be as much as -50 Thursday night degrees. Burrrrrrrrrrrrr

commishbob 12-20-2022 06:12 PM

In the low 50s here tonight in SE Texas. Sunshine broke through the clouds today which was nice for a change. Supposed to drop to 18/20 Thursday night into Friday, aka a 'hard' freeze. I'm hoping the corrupt azz clowns who run the Texas power grid are not lying about being able to avoid blackouts like we suffered a couple of winters back. My generator is primed and ready.

irv 12-20-2022 07:28 PM

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Supposed to get ugly here starting Thursday. +4c (32f) Thurs/Fri with rain transitioning to freezing rain then snow with some high winds. On Saturday they are warning about a flash freeze with temps plummeting to -5c (23f) with more snow and high winds.
Pics, supposedly, from the I-94 in North Dakota taken recently?

bnorth 12-20-2022 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2296169)
Supposed to get ugly here starting Thursday. +4c (32f) Thurs/Fri with rain transitioning to freezing rain then snow with some high winds. On Saturday they are warning about a flash freeze with temps plummeting to -5c (23f) with more snow and high winds.
Pics, supposedly, from the I-94 in North Dakota taken recently?

Hope it turns from rain to snow quickly so you get very little freezing rain.:)

irv 12-20-2022 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2296172)
Hope it turns from rain to snow quickly so you get very little freezing rain.:)

Thanks Ben. :)
Freezing rain sucks for sure, especially when we receive a fair amount of it.
I don't mind the snow as I snowmobile so I'll take it even though my major riding area was hit with a bad derecho this past summer.
Numerous, and I mean numerous trees are still down with some broken off way up that are unreachable.
https://cottagelife.com/general/gana...may-windstorm/

Leon 12-21-2022 06:43 AM

It's going to be 9 degrees in Dallas tomorrow. Two days of less than freezing temperatures and no higher. Kind of cold for us. That means emergency weather plans for the dogs. Five get put in the garage with a heater and the other 4 will be inside. Not a super fun situation. Goes with the territory.
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irv 12-21-2022 07:03 AM

Our weather forecast has changed once again, and will likely change another 6 times by the time it actually gets here?
Anyone know when this global warming thing is suppose to happen? I mean it's been over 34 yrs now and still nothing, or is this extreme, record breaking cold and snow in places all because of global warming like they say? :rolleyes:

butchie_t 12-21-2022 07:12 AM

It is gonna be in the 60s today and throughout the rest of the week. Yeah, I'm freaking liking that much more than teens and snow. Overnight lows in the 30s......I can deal with this.

Cheers,

Butch

bnorth 12-21-2022 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2296251)
Our weather forecast has changed once again, and will likely change another 6 times by the time it actually gets here?
Anyone know when this global warming thing is suppose to happen? I mean it's been over 34 yrs now and still nothing, or is this extreme, record breaking cold and snow in places all because of global warming like they say? :rolleyes:

As long as you don't get the freezing rain. We got a day of it before the snow. The line was just above us for just snow. Get even 30 miles north and it looks like the pic you posted of North Dakota. It rained here for a whole day first. Luckily we just have a skating rink to drive on after they removed the foot+ of snow. We have above ground power everyplace and freezing rain that sticks to the power lines can cause wide spread power outages for days and even weeks for rural people.

I had the generator ready just in case. Last time we didn't have power for 5 days. It really sucks to lose power in nice weather. During several days of a severe winter storm with below zero temps is way worse.

Stay warm everyone.:)

irv 12-21-2022 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2296258)
As long as you don't get the freezing rain. We got a day of it before the snow. The line was just above us for just snow. Get even 30 miles north and it looks like the pic you posted of North Dakota. It rained here for a whole day first. Luckily we just have a skating rink to drive on after they removed the foot+ of snow. We have above ground power everyplace and freezing rain that sticks to the power lines can cause wide spread power outages for days and even weeks for rural people.

I had the generator ready just in case. Last time we didn't have power for 5 days. It really sucks to lose power in nice weather. During several days of a severe winter storm with below zero temps is way worse.

Stay warm everyone.:)

The threat of freezing rain has now been removed even though I don't understand how we can go from +3-4 with rain to -4-5 with snow without freezing rain happening in between?
There is currently no snow amount we are supposed to get, just snow is all and no amount of rain either? :confused:
Warnings all over the place like climate Armageddon is imminent.

bnorth 12-21-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2296261)
The threat of freezing rain has now been removed even though I don't understand how we can go from +3-4 with rain to -4-5 with snow without freezing rain happening in between?
There is currently no snow amount we are supposed to get, just snow is all and no amount of rain either? :confused:
Warnings all over the place like climate Armageddon is imminent.

Yes those darn weather people are sadly like most others. They make a guess and afterwards get to see how close they got. I like it when they predict bad weather and it ends up being a nice day.

JustinD 12-21-2022 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2296247)
It's going to be 9 degrees in Dallas tomorrow. Two days of less than freezing temperatures and no higher. Kind of cold for us. That means emergency weather plans for the dogs. Five get put in the garage with a heater and the other 4 will be inside. Not a super fun situation. Goes with the territory.
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Well, getting blizzard warnings for Detroit. Freezing rain Thursday, turning to snow about 2 am Friday through Sunday.

Started working for one of the big two mortgage GSE Investors this year with a home office in Plano and I almost have her talked into Southlake in the coming few years. Don't ruin it for me Leon. :)

My only issue will be looking for a Detroit sports bar in Dallas for us expats, lol.

irv 12-21-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2296288)
Yes those darn weather people are sadly like most others. They make a guess and afterwards get to see how close they got. I like it when they predict bad weather and it ends up being a nice day.

Well, sounds like Wisconsin is going to get the worst of it according to Frankie, but all should heed his advice just the same. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDEkKCS_0No

Rad_Hazard 12-21-2022 12:49 PM

Just had to use 2 extension cords and a hair dryer to unfreeze the lock on my mail receptacle. Got that beautiful T206 Duffy Polar Bear out of there though. I don't think it minded the weather though, Polar Bears are pretty resilient in the cold.

GasHouseGang 12-21-2022 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2296251)
Our weather forecast has changed once again, and will likely change another 6 times by the time it actually gets here?
Anyone know when this global warming thing is suppose to happen? I mean it's been over 34 yrs now and still nothing, or is this extreme, record breaking cold and snow in places all because of global warming like they say? :rolleyes:

Haven't you heard? Now it's called "climate change" instead of "global warming". It's hard to tell people sitting in a blizzard that it's because of global warming. Climate change can be used to explain any type of weather. ;)

Snapolit1 12-21-2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 2296338)
Haven't you heard? Now it's called "climate change" instead of "global warming". It's hard to tell people sitting in a blizzard that it's because of global warming. Climate change can be used to explain any type of weather. ;)

A warmer planet actually leads to more snow (and rain) . . .but that's waaaay too complicated for most people to wrap their heads around. Or to care to try to understand. It's cool living in a country where basic scientific illiteracy is a badge of honor.

todeen 12-21-2022 01:30 PM

In Spokane WA, we have had snow on the ground for 6 weeks, temps have not risen above freezing. I waited to long to put Christmas lights up. We got an additional 3 inches yesterday, and today temps are 10 degrees with negative temps overnight.

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bnorth 12-21-2022 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2296314)
Well, sounds like Wisconsin is going to get the worst of it according to Frankie, but all should heed his advice just the same. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDEkKCS_0No

Emailing with a friend and fellow member in Wisconsin now and before I read this he told me they are about to get hit. So whoever Frankie is they are correct.

ullmandds 12-21-2022 02:20 PM

You’re in St. Paul we had may be five or 6 inches already on the ground and single digit temperatures. The blizzard arrive this morning added maybe three or 4 inches it’s quite windy and cold. Supposed to continue until maybe Friday with the winds picking up tomorrow.

gonefishin 12-21-2022 02:40 PM

Here is the good and bad about living in San Diego county:

Good: - the weather is great - mid 60s during the day and 40s at night.

Bad: - Got this month's electric bill - 500+

Rad_Hazard 12-21-2022 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin (Post 2296364)
Here is the good and bad about living in San Diego county:

Good: - the weather is great - mid 60s during the day and 40s at night.

Bad: - Got this month's electric bill - 500+

If it's that temp during the day and at night how is the electric bill that high? You wouldn't need heat or AC in that kind of weather.

gonefishin 12-21-2022 03:57 PM

Sounds strange but you do. Visitors from out of state will come (WI, KS, etc.) and complain about how cold it is - even when the temperature is in the mid-40s!

The rates and taxes are crazy. It's a tiered billing system. The more you use, the higher the unit rate. It starts off high and goes into the hemisphere from there.

Electricity is second only to water and property taxes.

If you excluded heating and air, then you could knock that baby down to around 2-3 hundred I'm guessing.

gonefishin 12-21-2022 04:00 PM

Oh, I forgot add the price of gasoline.

The rest of the United States is mainly around 3 bucks or so and we are still at around $4.50 average.

I just can't seem to figure that one out either.

irv 12-21-2022 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 2296338)
Haven't you heard? Now it's called "climate change" instead of "global warming". It's hard to tell people sitting in a blizzard that it's because of global warming. Climate change can be used to explain any type of weather. ;)

Yes, yes, you're right. My bad. It went from global warming to climate change when the earth was no longer co-operating. I forgot about that.
From what I hear now, it has gone from climate change to a climate crisis now!!! :eek:
We are doomed I tell you. Record breaking cold around the world but some actually believe that is caused by global warming, er, I mean the climate crisis. :rolleyes:
I wish someone, who wasn't so high on their horse, would try to explain that to us illiterate peon's but I'm sure it's not worth their effort if all we are going to do is laugh at what some people will actually believe today.

jiw98 12-21-2022 09:01 PM

I have around a foot of snow currently. Starting Thursday evening it's supposed to start snowing with windy conditions. Over the weekend the forecast is for 1-2 feet of snow, temps in the teens, and winds at 30 mph with gusts to +50 mph. It will be a good time to stoke up the fireplace and watch it snow and blow.

Mark17 12-21-2022 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2296347)
A warmer planet actually leads to more snow (and rain) . . .but that's waaaay too complicated for most people to wrap their heads around. Or to care to try to understand. It's cool living in a country where basic scientific illiteracy is a badge of honor.

So, how is it that our current high level of precipitation is accompanied by sub zero temperatures?

How about this: climate has always changed. Always has, always will. Only fools would try to stop it from changing.

bnorth 12-22-2022 09:39 AM

The snow is welcome here as we have had a couple years of drought. I never even had to start the snowblower last year. Not so sure about the -19 with -47 real feel now. On the bright side it is supposed to warm up to a balmy -7 today.

On a really bad note the darn wind blew my path to the grill back in with snow.:(

irv 12-22-2022 09:59 AM

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So, how is it that our current high level of precipitation is accompanied by sub zero temperatures?

How about this: climate has always changed. Always has, always will. Only fools would try to stop it from changing.

Remember when they said all glaciers would be gone by the mid 2000's? Remember when they said snow and cold weather would also be gone due to global warming and if we didn't act now, the planet, as we know it, would perish?

Well, because that didn't work out so well for them, they've now changed it to, "Because of Global Warming/The Climate Crisis" we are now seeing record breaking cold and snow.
And, instead of some people waking up, seeing/recognizing the insanity of that, they just jump onboard, without giving it a second thought, and follow right along with the "new" spun up narrative. :(
This is so like covid and the vaccines where those once revered scientists and climatologists, who don't toe the line, are shamed, shunned and kicked to the curb, it's not even funny.
Again, what party is pushing both? It seems, or at least it does to me, the more this one party and their funded media lies to them, the more lies they want.
Little do people recognize that the more their party brainwashes them, the more votes and money it guarantees them too.
It also bothers me immensely, makes me angry, what this climate crisis scam is doing to our youth. Numerous kids, and some adults, are suffering with climate anxiety and depression with some even committing suicide thinking they have nothing to live for.
As Joseph Goebbels said, if you tell a lie once, no one will believe it but if you repeat it, say it over and over again, it becomes the truth. Our former environment minister, in her drunken stupor, is on video saying exactly the same thing but it's amazing how little media coverage that story received.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZyi_Sx1GpU
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...278-3/fulltext
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/...ment-1.6593657
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...y-202206132761

Mark17 12-22-2022 11:08 AM

What annoys me is how otherwise intelligent people are either too lazy or too gullible to think for themselves and use just a tiny bit of common sense.

I live in Minnesota, where it routinely drops below freezing in winter and tops 100 degrees sometime during summer. That's a 100 degree change over about 6 months. Life survives. Yet, a one or two degree change spread over 100 years is supposed to be disastrous?

Carbon dioxide, a naturally occurring form of carbon in a carbon-based world, is required for all plant life (trees, grass, plants, vegetables, algae, etc.) Yet it comprises just one half of one tenth of one percent of the atmosphere. That means, for every 2,500 parts in the atmosphere, only ONE is CO2. And that is supposed to be too much, to the point of trapping heat and causing calamity?

People need to think just a little bit.

bnorth 12-22-2022 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2296623)
What annoys me is how otherwise intelligent people are either too lazy or too gullible to think for themselves and use just a tiny bit of common sense.

I live in Minnesota, where it routinely drops below freezing in winter and tops 100 degrees sometime during summer. That's a 100 degree change over about 6 months. Life survives. Yet, a one or two degree change spread over 100 years is supposed to be disastrous?

Carbon dioxide, a naturally occurring form of carbon in a carbon-based world, is required for all plant life (trees, grass, plants, vegetables, algae, etc.) Yet it comprises just one half of one tenth of one percent of the atmosphere. That means, for every 2,500 parts in the atmosphere, only ONE is CO2. And that is supposed to be too much, to the point of trapping heat and causing calamity?

People need to think just a little bit.

Just for fun I had to look it up.

Minnesota Hottest day on record is 115 F Coldest day on record -60 F 175 degree difference.

South Dakota Hottest day on record is 120 F Coldest day on record -58 F 178 degree difference.

Seems like we get some extremes at both places.

https://www.rd.com/list/coldest-warm...n-every-state/

irv 12-22-2022 12:41 PM

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What annoys me is how otherwise intelligent people are either too lazy or too gullible to think for themselves and use just a tiny bit of common sense.

I live in Minnesota, where it routinely drops below freezing in winter and tops 100 degrees sometime during summer. That's a 100 degree change over about 6 months. Life survives. Yet, a one or two degree change spread over 100 years is supposed to be disastrous?

Carbon dioxide, a naturally occurring form of carbon in a carbon-based world, is required for all plant life (trees, grass, plants, vegetables, algae, etc.) Yet it comprises just one half of one tenth of one percent of the atmosphere. That means, for every 2,500 parts in the atmosphere, only ONE is CO2. And that is supposed to be too much, to the point of trapping heat and causing calamity?

People need to think just a little bit.

There was a vid of a CBC journalist talking about how CBC told her "We don't want people thinking for themselves, we want them to believe everything we tell them" when she wanted to talk about/air all the adverse affects/vaccine injuries that were happening but the CBC refused.
She ended up quitting do to that as she didn't like their controlling/biased/brainwashing attitude and their media coverage regarding that.
Of course that vid has now been removed and is nowhere to be found so I'm thankful I was able to watch it before it was.
The thing is people can't connect the dots and see that Trudeau funded them 675 million dollars of our tax payer money but they still think the CBC isn't biased/favors Trudeau and the Liberals.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle29354285/


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Just for fun I had to look it up.

Minnesota Hottest day on record is 115 F Coldest day on record -60 F 175 degree difference.

South Dakota Hottest day on record is 120 F Coldest day on record -58 F 178 degree difference.

Seems like we get some extremes at both places.

https://www.rd.com/list/coldest-warm...n-every-state/

Did you notice some of those dates, Ben? 1899, 1915, 1925, 1905, 1936, 1913, 1916, etc. I'm sure if one were to look, they'd easily find many articles debunking these dates and debunking the science/temperature taking techniques back then.
Many articles, science data from years ago has now been deleted and many others that haven't been, are very difficult to find/look up anymore. I wonder why they would do that? :rolleyes:

Carter08 12-22-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2296347)
A warmer planet actually leads to more snow (and rain) . . .but that's waaaay too complicated for most people to wrap their heads around. Or to care to try to understand. It's cool living in a country where basic scientific illiteracy is a badge of honor.

Nail, hammer, head.

bnorth 12-22-2022 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2296656)

Did you notice some of those dates, Ben? 1899, 1915, 1925, 1905, 1936, 1913, 1916, etc. I'm sure if one were to look, they'd easily find many articles debunking these dates and debunking the science/temperature taking techniques back then.
Many articles, science data from years ago has now been deleted and many others that haven't been, are very difficult to find/look up anymore. I wonder why they would do that? :rolleyes:

Seriously everyone can we please keep the silliness out of this thread?

Carter08 12-22-2022 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2296678)
Seriously everyone can we please keep the silliness out of this thread?

Ha, good luck with that!

BobbyStrawberry 12-22-2022 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2296678)
Seriously everyone can we please keep the silliness out of this thread?

"Silliness" is a very nice way to put it.

Mark17 12-22-2022 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2296645)
Just for fun I had to look it up.

Minnesota Hottest day on record is 115 F Coldest day on record -60 F 175 degree difference.

South Dakota Hottest day on record is 120 F Coldest day on record -58 F 178 degree difference.

Seems like we get some extremes at both places.

https://www.rd.com/list/coldest-warm...n-every-state/

I don't think it is controversial, or easily dismissed, that huge glaciers pushed south through the northern 2/3 of Minnesota about 10,000 years ago, carving out most of our 13,000 +/- lakes. Imagine how huge those ice sheets must've been, not just across, but thick and heavy enough to gouge big lake basins. Imagine how much ice expansion had to happen for these huge glaciers to move hundreds of miles, slowly changing the landscape.

And then imagine how extremely cold it must've been, even in summer, for those glaciers to continue to grow and expand, rather than melting away. And not just for one or two years, but probably hundreds if not thousands of years or more.

Now the thought of temps rising one or two degrees over the next 100 years throws some people into a panic.

Carter08 12-22-2022 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2296738)
I don't think it is controversial, or easily dismissed, that huge glaciers pushed south through the northern 2/3 of Minnesota about 10,000 years ago, carving out most of our 13,000 +/- lakes. Imagine how huge those ice sheets must've been, not just across, but thick and heavy enough to gouge big lake basins. Imagine how much ice expansion had to happen for these huge glaciers to move hundreds of miles, slowly changing the landscape.

And then imagine how extremely cold it must've been, even in summer, for those glaciers to continue to grow and expand, rather than melting away. And not just for one or two years, but probably hundreds if not thousands of years or more.

Now the thought of temps rising one or two degrees over the next 100 years throws some people into a panic.

Looks like you’ve spent your life studying this. Great conclusion you’ve reached through those rigorous studies.

Mark17 12-22-2022 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2296809)
Looks like you’ve spent your life studying this. Great conclusion you’ve reached through those rigorous studies.

Where do you think I am incorrect, with my facts or logic? Ad hominem is always a poor retort.

Cliff Bowman 12-22-2022 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2296815)
Where do you think I am incorrect, with my facts or logic? Ad hominem is always a poor retort.

Ha! Good luck getting a response to that!

familytoad 12-22-2022 11:36 PM

Freezing Rain
 
Ice is expected to blanket the entire county here and in my little town there’s no way to avoid fairly steep hills to get in/out of town.
(So I won’t)

The nearby highway heading east is closed for about 50 miles due to ice/winds up to 75 mph .

My driveway and road in front of my house is a hockey rink.
It’s actually unsafe for people to leave their house. Driving is not advised.

So far we haven’t lost power here, but due to the weight of the ice on the lines, that’s usually inevitable. I’ve got plenty of baseball cards to read…

Happy Holidays to everyone!

irv 12-23-2022 06:23 AM

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I don't think it is controversial, or easily dismissed, that huge glaciers pushed south through the northern 2/3 of Minnesota about 10,000 years ago, carving out most of our 13,000 +/- lakes. Imagine how huge those ice sheets must've been, not just across, but thick and heavy enough to gouge big lake basins. Imagine how much ice expansion had to happen for these huge glaciers to move hundreds of miles, slowly changing the landscape.

And then imagine how extremely cold it must've been, even in summer, for those glaciers to continue to grow and expand, rather than melting away. And not just for one or two years, but probably hundreds if not thousands of years or more.

Now the thought of temps rising one or two degrees over the next 100 years throws some people into a panic.

This^^^. It's amazing what I am currently reading/hearing up here. One would think it's the end of times, life is over as we know it based on that. Our weather channel background is all bright red and the language they use, "Storm Warning" has a big lightning bolt coming down from the "T" in Storm.
It is still currently raining here and is +2c out. Zero snow, zero wind, just rain. Our supposed 20-30 cm's that we were supposed to get has now been dropped to a possible 5-10.
What happened to the days when they just said snow is on the way so make sure you have your snow shovels ready?
Fear, fear and more fear. If I didn't know any better I'd think they were trying to recondition us, brainwash us and reprogram us?
Climate crisis lockdowns are just around the corner just like covid was, you can bet on that.

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2296833)

Ha! Good luck getting a response to that!

It's their typical response when their little minds don't have anything in the form of a rebuttal or argument. Resorting to insults is their MO every time.

bnorth 12-23-2022 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by familytoad (Post 2296834)
Ice is expected to blanket the entire county here and in my little town there’s no way to avoid fairly steep hills to get in/out of town.
(So I won’t)

The nearby highway heading east is closed for about 50 miles due to ice/winds up to 75 mph .

My driveway and road in front of my house is a hockey rink.
It’s actually unsafe for people to leave their house. Driving is not advised.

So far we haven’t lost power here, but due to the weight of the ice on the lines, that’s usually inevitable. I’ve got plenty of baseball cards to read…

Happy Holidays to everyone!

Stay safe and warm.

Woke up to frozen water today. For some reason I have a hot water line for my kitchen sink that they run next to the foundation. A hair dryer and about 20 minutes of heating the line from the sink going backwards worked.

Kinda my fault as I have thought about fixing it since we bought this house about a dozen years ago. Maybe this summer.:)

I am already tired of winter. We are on about day 10 of crap weather. Started out with a few day blizzard and now double digit below zero weather with 25+ mph winds. Looking at a balmy high of -4 today with a nice 25-30 MPH breeze.

Weatherman says by Tuesday we will be back to our normal high 20s temps for this time of year. That will be nice.:)

Carter08 12-23-2022 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2296815)
Where do you think I am incorrect, with my facts or logic? Ad hominem is always a poor retort.

Over 90 and close to 100 percent of actual scientists know that humans are causing climate change. You will never believe them. You wouldn’t listen to a doctor about the vaccine and you wouldn’t listen to a climate scientist about, you know, the climate.

carlsonjok 12-23-2022 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2296815)
Where do you think I am incorrect, with my facts or logic? Ad hominem is always a poor retort.

Ad hominem may be a poor retort, but an argument from incredulity isn't exactly dispositive because it makes no attempt to engage with the actual scientific evidence and, to a certain extent, ignores basic math.

Having spent my younger years in the creation vs evolution debate, I am generally loath to engage with science deniers. But, I would point out two things relative to your comment that "it's only 1 or 2 degrees."

First, that is an average temperature over the course of a full year. To use an oversimplified example, the average summer temperature of 25C (77F) and winter temperature of 5C (41F) yields the same annual temperature as 35C (95F) and -5C (23F). To a certain degree, this example can help understand the shift in language from "global warming" to "climate change." While global warming is technically correct since global averages are increasing, the use of climate change more accurately captures that climate is getting more extreme at both ends of the spectrum.

Second, the difference between average temperatures today and at the end of the last ice age is estimated to be 4-5 degrees C, which is also a small number. No big whoop, right?

And to get us back on subject, it is brass monkey weather here in central Oklahoma. The horses are going stir crazy after being stalled for the last 36 hours and they have another 24 hours to go before they get turned out.

https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0/IMG_8473.jpg

doug.goodman 12-23-2022 03:13 PM

I just went out to bring in the trash cans in my bare feet.

I love living in CA.

Doug

Eric72 12-23-2022 08:15 PM

It's in the single digits here.

The "real feel" is "feels real cold."

Luckily, the snow has been light thus far; just enough to coat the lawn. Since it's likely going to be below freezing all weekend, I guess we've got a White Christmas by default.

No sustained strong winds; however, there have been gusts. I live in a somewhat heavily wooded area, though. There will likely be a tree or two down nearby before it's over. If one knocks out the power, I'll start up the generator and ride things out.

All in all, it could be worse. Still, I hate cold weather...and it's C-O-L-D out there.

Stay warm and safe, everyone.

todeen 12-23-2022 09:26 PM

10 degrees today (Spokane), not sure what it was with windchill. But we sure had a great time. My wife wasn't as gung-ho as I was, but she persevered in frigid temps.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...543eb68e53.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d222aa3e78.jpg

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cubman1941 12-24-2022 05:23 AM

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This is a picture I posted for family in Wisconsin yesterday with notation of "looks like we will have a little White Christmas". Today it is 2 with -15 wind chill. BUT --- we will be back to 50 degree weather by next Friday!!

mrreality68 12-24-2022 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cubman1941 (Post 2297190)
This is a picture I posted for family in Wisconsin yesterday with notation of "looks like we will have a little White Christmas". Today it is 2 with -15 wind chill. BUT --- we will be back to 50 degree weather by next Friday!!

Nice photo and wow on the temperature swing

irv 12-28-2022 06:12 AM

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1,200 Scientists and Professionals Declare: “There is No Climate Emergency”


https://dailysceptic.org/2022/08/18/...ate-emergency/

They blow up the effect of greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide, but ignore any beneficial effects. “CO2 is not a pollutant,” it says. “It is essential to all life on Earth. Photosynthesis is a blessing. More CO2 is beneficial for nature, greening the Earth; additional CO2 in the air has promoted growth in global plant biomass. It is also good for agriculture, increasing the yield of crops worldwide.”

bnorth 12-28-2022 06:23 AM

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It finally warmed up here. It is a amazingly nice 30 now.

irv 12-28-2022 01:43 PM

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Wait, I was told green energy was the way of the future and all these new innovations like smart meters etc, wouldn't be used to control the population.
Conspiracy fact #274

If Germans are worried about getting through the Winter of 2023, they ain’t seen nothing yet. 2024 could be even worse, thanks to government bureaucracy. And yes, that goes for those environmentally-minded volk who are cruising the Autobahn in their EVs.

The cryptically-named Federal Network Agency has announced plans to empower German power grid operators to remotely limit home heat pumps and EV chargers. And this can be done without the customer’s permission. And lest German citizens think that they have the spring, summer, and fall to make adjustments, this policy is set to take effect next month. It should be running at full speed, so to speak, by the time winter rolls around next year.

Breitbart News cited the German publication Die Welt in explaining that the increasing number of electric cars in the country and the uptick in people using heat pumps for homes are environmentally friendly but are gobbling up power and are taking a toll on power grids.


https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...inter-n1656741

Carter08 12-28-2022 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2298504)
Wait, I was told green energy was the way of the future and all these new innovations like smart meters etc, wouldn't be used to control the population.
Conspiracy fact #274

If Germans are worried about getting through the Winter of 2023, they ain’t seen nothing yet. 2024 could be even worse, thanks to government bureaucracy. And yes, that goes for those environmentally-minded volk who are cruising the Autobahn in their EVs.

The cryptically-named Federal Network Agency has announced plans to empower German power grid operators to remotely limit home heat pumps and EV chargers. And this can be done without the customer’s permission. And lest German citizens think that they have the spring, summer, and fall to make adjustments, this policy is set to take effect next month. It should be running at full speed, so to speak, by the time winter rolls around next year.

Breitbart News cited the German publication Die Welt in explaining that the increasing number of electric cars in the country and the uptick in people using heat pumps for homes are environmentally friendly but are gobbling up power and are taking a toll on power grids.


https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...inter-n1656741

You have convinced me (of something).

todeen 12-28-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2298504)
Wait, I was told green energy was the way of the future and all these new innovations like smart meters etc, wouldn't be used to control the population.
Conspiracy fact #274

If Germans are worried about getting through the Winter of 2023, they ain’t seen nothing yet. 2024 could be even worse, thanks to government bureaucracy. And yes, that goes for those environmentally-minded volk who are cruising the Autobahn in their EVs.

The cryptically-named Federal Network Agency has announced plans to empower German power grid operators to remotely limit home heat pumps and EV chargers. And this can be done without the customer’s permission. And lest German citizens think that they have the spring, summer, and fall to make adjustments, this policy is set to take effect next month. It should be running at full speed, so to speak, by the time winter rolls around next year.

Breitbart News cited the German publication Die Welt in explaining that the increasing number of electric cars in the country and the uptick in people using heat pumps for homes are environmentally friendly but are gobbling up power and are taking a toll on power grids.


https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...inter-n1656741

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but understanding US EV infrastructure is not up to date is not a conspiracy. We have a big problem and it's nowhere near being resolved.

We have a significant housing crisis across the US. What do you think will be resolved first: electrical grid and infrastructure for EV, or housing shortage?

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mrreality68 12-29-2022 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by todeen (Post 2298637)
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but understanding US EV infrastructure is not up to date is not a conspiracy. We have a big problem and it's nowhere near being resolved.

We have a significant housing crisis across the US. What do you think will be resolved first: electrical grid and infrastructure for EV, or housing shortage?

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Just follow the money and go with the Infrastructure for EV

bnorth 12-29-2022 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2298504)
Wait, I was told green energy was the way of the future and all these new innovations like smart meters etc, wouldn't be used to control the population.
Conspiracy fact #274

If Germans are worried about getting through the Winter of 2023, they ain’t seen nothing yet. 2024 could be even worse, thanks to government bureaucracy. And yes, that goes for those environmentally-minded volk who are cruising the Autobahn in their EVs.

The cryptically-named Federal Network Agency has announced plans to empower German power grid operators to remotely limit home heat pumps and EV chargers. And this can be done without the customer’s permission. And lest German citizens think that they have the spring, summer, and fall to make adjustments, this policy is set to take effect next month. It should be running at full speed, so to speak, by the time winter rolls around next year.

Breitbart News cited the German publication Die Welt in explaining that the increasing number of electric cars in the country and the uptick in people using heat pumps for homes are environmentally friendly but are gobbling up power and are taking a toll on power grids.


https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...inter-n1656741

We have been at or just above freezing so the ice covered roads are becoming a sloppy mess.

A link to a story from a former talk show host, we are really scraping the bottom of the barrel there.

rats60 12-29-2022 06:00 AM

Back to shorts weather here. I actually had to wear a sweatshirt one day as it got down into the 20s. No snow though.

carlsonjok 12-29-2022 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by todeen (Post 2298637)
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but understanding US EV infrastructure is not up to date is not a conspiracy. We have a big problem and it's nowhere near being resolved.

You are touching on a key point here. The German plan to limit power to certain homes isn't part of any plot to subjugate the population. It is a means of controlling peak power demand when the potential exists for excess demand to strain and damage the network. The same thing is done here in the US in two ways. First, with smart meters that allow the utility to charge higher rates at peak times (and on the other side, customers to use Smart Hours plans to lower their bill.) Second, at times of excessive demand, like with Winter Storm Uri in 2021, power companies will implement rolling blackouts. The German plan is akin to surgery while rolling blackouts are basically blunt force trauma.

Here is the thing: everyone wants to have cheap, unlimited power available 100% of the time. Guess what? You can't have all three. At best, you can only have two. And it seems that in the US we've leaned heavily on cheap. Efforts by utilities to add generation capacity is usually met with protestations regarding the increased rates that would result. I am sure no one will be surprised that the loudest crowd about utility rates are often the same folks that embrace smart meter conspiracies.

irv 12-29-2022 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by todeen (Post 2298637)
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but understanding US EV infrastructure is not up to date is not a conspiracy. We have a big problem and it's nowhere near being resolved.

We have a significant housing crisis across the US. What do you think will be resolved first: electrical grid and infrastructure for EV, or housing shortage?

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Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2298673)
Just follow the money and go with the Infrastructure for EV

This^
With the housing crisis going on for years and years now, I have no doubts whatsoever the EV push will continue leaps and bound above the housing crisis.
It's not hard to see, for those that choose to pay attention, that is exactly what is currently happening.

I wonder how many gave it any thought, with thousands and thousands of illegal, unchecked and unvaccinated alien's crossing our borders each and everyday and being spread throughout our countries, why our govt's were implementing vaccine passports and mandates on its own citizens?

Anyone paying attention to all the lies, the corruption and the censorship Elon Musk is exposing?
Musk, once a god of the left, is now being shunned, ridiculed and kicked to the curb (like we've seen so many times) for exposing all the lies and corruption of our govt's and the left's heads are absolutely exploding.
Nary a word lately about the promotion of Musk's EV's because the left is pissed they lost their platform they used to spread fake news and lies and all their lies, corruption and complicity is being exposed.
Of course, because that's what they're paid to do, the likes of CNN, MSNBC and The New York Times, etc, are all denying/covering for the left, but even they, despite their best efforts aren't having much luck because most people are finally starting to wake up.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...Czudvw7M8sAAAA
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...Cwsce-ptAsAAAA
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status...DRreDj1LgsAAAA
https://twitter.com/murraymints82/st...Cg_aThhbssAAAA

irv 12-29-2022 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2298681)
We have been at or just above freezing so the ice covered roads are becoming a sloppy mess.

A link to a story from a former talk show host, we are really scraping the bottom of the barrel there.

Ben, you seem like a nice guy but I can't say I've ever come across someone so naive and so misinformed than you.
You don't recognize the likes of CNN and MSNBC being fake news spreading propaganda sites and likely believe every word the spew to you as truthful and factual?
I'm unsure where you receive your news/info from but I can't help but believe it's from those I listed above or similar?

bnorth 12-29-2022 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2298702)
Ben, you seem like a nice guy but I can't say I've ever come across someone so naive and so misinformed than you.
You don't recognize the likes of CNN and MSNBC being fake news spreading propaganda sites and likely believe every word the spew to you as truthful and factual?
I'm unsure where you receive your news/info from but I can't help but believe it's from those I listed above or similar?

I feel the same way. You seem like a great guy but you have some beyond crazy conspiracy posts that are so far from reality I honestly can't imagine anyone actually believing it.

I do not care one bit about politics and never watch ANY news outlet. I go by my real life experiences. If you noticed you post links and usually I give real life experiences as to why I believe what I do.

Now back to the topic. How did the storm hit in your area? The mail here is way behind. I sent a 91 Topps DS Chipper Jones to a fellow member last Friday and I got a text it left a sorting facility 100 miles away this morning.

irv 12-29-2022 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2298709)
I feel the same way. You seem like a great guy but you have some beyond crazy conspiracy posts that are so far from reality I honestly can't imagine anyone actually believing it.

I do not care one bit about politics and never watch ANY news outlet. I go by my real life experiences. If you noticed you post links and usually I give real life experiences as to why I believe what I do.

Now back to the topic. How did the storm hit in your area? The mail here is way behind. I sent a 91 Topps DS Chipper Jones to a fellow member last Friday and I got a text it left a sorting facility 100 miles away this morning.

You seem to think I make up, edit, and write those links I post for some odd reason but that seems odd, being as you say you don't pay attention to politics nor watch any news outlets yet your views/belief's are very similar/same to those I mentioned above? :confused:
I know it's tough believing what is actually happening compared to what you believe/are told, but it is becoming more and more clear each and everyday, all those once conspiracy theories are coming true.

You remind me of my 83 yr old father. He watches CTV New/CNN and reads the Toronto Star. All very left leaning left propaganda sites and he thinks he is informed.
I cut him some slack because of his age and because there likely was a time in his life when the news was actually true and unbiased but it pains me at the same time to see what years of fake news and propaganda has done to him.

irv 12-29-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by carlsonjok (Post 2298697)
You are touching on a key point here. The German plan to limit power to certain homes isn't part of any plot to subjugate the population. It is a means of controlling peak power demand when the potential exists for excess demand to strain and damage the network. The same thing is done here in the US in two ways. First, with smart meters that allow the utility to charge higher rates at peak times (and on the other side, customers to use Smart Hours plans to lower their bill.) Second, at times of excessive demand, like with Winter Storm Uri in 2021, power companies will implement rolling blackouts. The German plan is akin to surgery while rolling blackouts are basically blunt force trauma.

Here is the thing: everyone wants to have cheap, unlimited power available 100% of the time. Guess what? You can't have all three. At best, you can only have two. And it seems that in the US we've leaned heavily on cheap. Efforts by utilities to add generation capacity is usually met with protestations regarding the increased rates that would result. I am sure no one will be surprised that the loudest crowd about utility rates are often the same folks that embrace smart meter conspiracies.

B.S. Germany, due to the fake global warming/climate crisis, green energy movement shuttered the majority of their Nuke plants. They had far more available power being spread across their country supplying people, without interruption, than what they do now so this B.S. about their grid being overwhelmed is just another fake B.S. story trying to get people, in the name of population control and the fake climate crisis, to stop living like they do.
The smart people, who can't afford their utility bills, among other things, will definitely rethink about having children or having as many children as their forefathers did. How people can't connect the dots and see that is beyond me?

bnorth 12-29-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2298718)
B.S. Germany, due to the fake global warming/climate crisis, green energy movement shuttered the majority of their Nuke plants. They had far more available power being spread across their country supplying people, without interruption, than what they do now so this B.S. about their grid being overwhelmed is just another fake B.S. story trying to get people, in the name of population control and the fake climate crisis, to stop living like they do.
The smart people, who can't afford their utility bills, among other things, will definitely rethink about having children or having as many children as their forefathers did. How people can't connect the dots and see that is beyond me?

Ever think about the real war going on in that area? I have real life friends in Moldova and they are and have had for a while now rolling blackouts because of it. The reduction of power is to not have to do that in Germany. But hey what does the real world problems have to do with fantasy land conspiracy theories?

For me that is the problem with your posts. Your links are extremely biased to promote an agenda that has absolutely nothing to do with what is happening the real world. It is like watching the History Channel and believing Ancient Aliens/Mountain Monsters are real documentaries.

irv 12-29-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2298788)
Ever think about the real war going on in that area? I have real life friends in Moldova and they are and have had for a while now rolling blackouts because of it. The reduction of power is to not have to do that in Germany. But hey what does the real world problems have to do with fantasy land conspiracy theories?

For me that is the problem with your posts. Your links are extremely biased to promote an agenda that has absolutely nothing to do with what is happening the real world. It is like watching the History Channel and believing Ancient Aliens/Mountain Monsters are real documentaries.

The real war??? You mean the Proxy war your govt is currently engaged in with Russia, who has sent 100 BILLION, with a Capital "B" to Ukraine? That war, Ben?
Tell me Ben, without regurgitating the MSM talking points or spin, why your country has such a vested interest in Ukraine?
Tell me, why your at it, why your previous President to Trump was behind the coup that ousted Ukraine's previously voted in, via a legit election, President?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XqgNOvFMvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES4jslRzQwI

You were aware, I assume, Ukraine's Nazi's, The Azov's (look them up) have been bombing/murdering their own, or the Russian eastern part of Ukraine for years now?
Here, because you likely think these Azov Nazi's don't exist and that our govt's haven't been supporting them, I'll do you a favor.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/mountin...erts-1.5879303
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/natio...ys-nazi-hunter
https://www.thesuburban.com/news/rep...028f16fdb.html
https://mronline.org/2022/03/23/u-s-...le-insurgency/
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254217.shtml
https://www.codepink.org/how_the_us_...zis_in_ukraine

Trump warned Germany, and other European nations that they were relying heavily on Russian oil and gas and would be screwed but they all laughed at him.
Do you ever do any critical thinking with regards to the Dems and media going hard against Trump and wondering why that was and still currently is? Do you think maybe, just maybe, he was a major threat to getting in their way or exsposing this grift?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKEycjREgPE

BobbyStrawberry 12-29-2022 11:50 AM

See, when Dr. Fauci created the "fake climate crisis" with the help of MSNBC, he didn't realize that a brilliant baseball card collector sleuth would see right through it! 🤣

Cliff Bowman 12-29-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2298813)
See, when Dr. Fauci created the "fake climate crisis" with the help of MSNBC, he didn't realize that a brilliant baseball card collector sleuth would see right through it! 🤣

The con artists who have you hiding under your bed from the “Climate Crisis” are laughing their asses off while they are consuming massive amounts of those evil fossil fuels flying all over the world on private jets, kicking back on mega yachts, and building brand new oceanfront mansions without a solar panel or a windmill in sight.


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