What single card do you think will increase in value the most in 10 years
 

I'm not looking for investment discussion, I'm just asking out of genuine curiosity. Everyone has a card they think is undervalued by the market, and is due to take off in price. Which card do you think will have the highest percentage increase in value over the next 10 years? Feel free to explain your reasoning if you want to.

Are we limiting this to prewar? Or before 1980?

I realized I forgot to include my choice in the initial post. I think the 1952 Topps Jackie Robinson has huge upside. It's exactly as scarce as the iconic Mickey Mantle, is iconic in its own right, and is currently miles behind in price. I'm not saying it's going to surpass the Mantle, but I think it deserves to be much closer in value than it is currently.

I also think Jackie is the most important player in baseball history, which means he has staying power, and his stature will only grow relative to his peers.

Very simply it's an iconic card, from an iconic set, featuring the most important player of all time, and is valued well below another similar card. Seems like a good recipe to me.

I don't think you'll get a ton of objection if you have a vintage card that happens to fall after the pre-war period. My choice is from 1952.

I'm going to go with the Jean-Donat Dupont Babe Ruth card. The reason is that it is a 1930's issue. No it is not a beautiful card, but for a Babe Ruth collector it is a hidden card. There are only 6 of these cards graded, period. There is one ungraded that I know of. 7 cards of a 1930's Babe Ruth issue is extremely Rare. Sooner or later Ruth collectors will have to take note of this one. Thats my pick for 10 years from now. Frank

I don't think anyone will get rich but the Kashin Babe Ruth is still underpriced in my opinion. The image is often not the sharpest on some printings but it's a Conlon photo and in my opinion one of the best images of the Babe there is:

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1953 Topps Willie Mays PSA 8 or higher

I don't see anything that's already worth thousands of dollars multiplying in value hundreds of times over a ten-year period, so it's probably something you can get for under $10 right now that will be worth several thousand in 10 years. And what card is that? I'll never tell.

I think the Sports King Ruth has tremendous upside, although it has already begun to make a move in recent auctions.

I will go with the gimme. High grade 52 Mantles will continue to increase in the next 10 years.

I agree that the 29' Kashin Ruth is a great player's era visual, courtesy of Conlon, and I'd just add the '30 W554 Ruth, which has the same image. And is a relatively rare issue, with PSA and SGC having graded less than 400 in total for the Kashin and much less for the W554.

And I agree that Ruth Sports Kings is another rare issue with upside. I think these Ruth cards become more attractive as some collectors get priced out of his Goudey's, etc.

I also agree that the '52 Topps Robinson has a lot of upside.

I would just add that I think there could continue to be a lot of price appreciation for the T206 oddities that are needed for a set. Specifically, the Doyle error is crazy rare, with maybe less than 10 extant, and the Plank. The Demmitt and O'Hara St. Louis cards may see the largest % increases though.

Only downfall on this piece is it’s a quadruple print. I love the image!

I think you nailed it here. I love Babe Ruth as much as anyone. It seems nothing and/or no one is going to catch up to Mantle or Wagner, though. The Babe and Ty Cobb would seem to fall in next in line. While I personally like his 1950 Bowman card best of all his cards, I realize how iconic the 1952 Topps set is to most people, and I would think given how important he is, the 1952 Jackie Robinson would be a no-brainer. Willie Mays likewise. We'll surely see. I am no expert, or investor.

But the '29 Kashin Ruth is still rarer than many of Ruth's other player days cards with less than 400 graded by SGC and PSA combined.

The Goudey Ruth's were printed in huge quantities too but it hasn't hurt their value. Same with Cobb T206s. The Kashin is a playing era card of the Babe at the height of his game and the image could not be improved upon (in my opinion). It's still pretty affordable for even the average collector. I don't know how much longer that will be true.

If we’re talking percentage increase, then it seems like the most likely suspects would be cards that are currently valued at nothing or something that rounds to nothing. It wouldn’t have to shoot up by much for the percentage increase to be pretty staggering.

In some ways, it’s not that different than an investing competition back in business school. To get the highest returns, the winners almost always invested in penny stocks, simply because if it goes nuts, then your percentage returns are astronomical.

Hard to pick just one, since so many pieces from the 80s and newer fall into this category. But maybe pick some fringe HOFer’s card from the junk wax era, ungraded, but hopefully will grade strong if the value takes off. If you wanted to take a shotgun approach, then buy up cases of unopened wax from this era and see what takes off. Then crack them open and hope you get lucky when something goes nuts.

I'm sorry, I can't think of any cards I have that I expect to drastically increase in value in the next 10 years. If I do, I'll probably sell it 3 months before it takes off. ;)

I don't wish ill will on the man, but I believe when Koufax passes away, his 55 topps card will blow up.

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I also think the 1947 Bond Bread Jackie Robinson Portrait is a card that has a lot of room to spread its wings. For a long time it was kind of ignored and not collected all that much. I would see it come up for auction now and then and sell for a few hundred dollars in the old days.

There were some really strong sales for higher grade examples during the pandemic that elevated its status somewhat.

However, in my opinion this card is one of THE MOST significant baseball cards ever released and was the first to feature Jackie in a major league uniform:

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I agree with Charles...the W554 Ruth is much rarer. The only thing working against it is that it's oversized.

But the real answer to the OP question....is the card that'll appreciate the most is whichever one I don't own.

I hope you are right...

For readers who don't know the card, here is an example:

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The one thing that card doesn't have going for it is that "Babe Ruth" doesn't appear anywhere on it.

I was thinking this one too, though I am not as hyperbolic about it. It is nicer looking and genuinely his RC compared to the 1949 Leaf card.

Another area to consider are Star basketball RCs from the early 1980s. In addition to having multiple Jordan RCs, there are a ton of RCs of HOFers in there, and now that PSA has decided to grade them, the top condition examples are good bets. There are a lot of crappy ones in Beckett slabs, so there are not sure crossovers, and the cards are full bleed color borders, so there will be lots of downgrades for corners.

I also think early Muhammad Ali cards are still undervalued. There are not a lot to choose from during Ali's pre-Vietnam years, and many of them are just obscure enough to keep them comparatively cheap.

Is it hyperbolic to say that though? Jackie Robinson's debut was one of the most significant events in baseball history and this is his first card and the first time any player like him was pictured in a major league uniform. I think people's feelings about the card aren't hyperbolic ENOUGH (haha).

For its attractiveness, relative rarity, and being so early, I've thought the 52 Red Man Mays sells for relatively little.

I don't think I can choose one over a 10 year period, lots of things can happen in the market between now and then. And like others have said its might be a relatively obscure card now that will appreciate the most in that period.

That being said, I sold my 52 Jackie which is one of the most beautiful cards imo, to buy my 14CJ Cobb. Kind of a Sophies Choice but I think the Cobb will exceed Jackie value in years to come.
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Honus t206. Anything with Babe on it will do well. Feels like Gehrig has been mildly undervalued compared to Babe but not sure that changes.

Both cards are awesome but I think you made the right call. Wow on both.

M101-4/5 Ruth, especially rare backs. Best ever, relatively rare (especially compared to the 1952 Mantle), and super iconic. I also think the 1907 Cobb Dietsche Fielding has a lot of room to run, as its relatively cheap now, its a real rookie, and its very rare (like 20 graded). I alsio think Gehrig cards are all undervalued

The answer is simple: not a single one of the cards I own. :(

My first thought exactly!

Care to list them so I can stay away? 😉

I completely agree with the sentiment, which why I jumped on the Robinson bandwagon years ago, but I do understand that for a significant number of collectors, any superstar from the pre-integration era will beat it. I do think there is a lot of room for the card relative to the 1949 Leaf and the 1949 Bowman to become the go-to Robinson card. I say that because the bread card came into prominence relatively recently after the research was done to establish the facts of its issuance.

+1 on that. I cannot believe the drop-off from Ruth to Gehrig.

Also Babe on the Jean-Donat Dupont card appears to be hitting a popup, so definitely the card will not be a home run in the next or future decades to come.

Brian (just as a reminder, the popup could have been dropped by the opposing team, and if fair, the Babe reached base. Whether popup dropped or not, still a cool card)

Ruth Premium
 

I agree on the ‘29 Kashin Ruth but add as another possibility the ‘29 Kashin Ruth PREMIUM, which is much rarer, higher quality, and at the moment doesn’t cost a fortune if you can find one.

My vote too. I think more people will come to this realization as time goes by.

Good thread- all the cards listed so far make sense.

I'll throw in the 1946 Propagandas Stan Musial. Low pop, interesting card, and I believe the first Musial card.

I believe the Felix Mendelssohn Ruth a transition card between Redsox and Yankees
Great graphics, Rare and an icon throwing pose

Sorry thought I upload the photo

Here it is

I have no doubt 19th Century Scrappy Carroll Cabinets is the ONLY answer here.

National Copper Plates/M101-1’s in general and this National Copper Plate Wagner in particular. As REA likes to say, “for those who recognize these premiums as cards, it’s his rookie card”, and it’s really beautiful when seen in person and has the bio on the back. In particular, quite rare and the catalyst would simply be grading, which has held back this set. In fact, a Young from the Sporting News M101-1 set with a corner torn off went for over $5000 recently as it was graded 1-PR by Beckett. I am holding out for PSA or SGC. Adding a Delehanty for show as well.

Darby choclate ty cobb good luck finding one

Everyone always seems to overlook the greatest pure hitter of all time, Ted Williams. Now obviously if he continues to be ignored I'll be wrong. But I have seen his cards nudge up over the past few years. So I'm going with the 1939 Goudey Ted Williams rookie...and the even rarer 1939 Goudey Premiums Ted.

That is a gorgeous card.

1951 Bowman Willie Mays without question. His rookie and still very underrated and undervalued.


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1952 Topps Jackie Robinson gets my vote for sure. Here's one of mine.

T206's with slightly harder backs

'88 Donruss Gregg Jefferies?

:D

Seriously, though, I agree with those who have stated the sharpest increase will be a card that is relatively inexpensive right now. Perhaps a $20 card goes to $2,000 or some other 100x jump.

Hell, Mike Trout's Topps Update went from about $20 to about $2,000 in about 10 years.

As much as I like other cards in this thread, I just can't see them keeping up with a percentage increase like that.

Centered mid to low grade Mantles. The price of higher grade Mantles will be unattainable for a majority of collectors soon. People will still want a Mantle and that will jump the price of the mid low grade Micks.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

If I have to take a guess on modern, I would say 1993 - 1999 Ken Griffey Jr inserts. Although his cards are pretty strong already. So maybe Frank Thomas, Chipper Jones, Adrian Beltre. Someone who was issued on late 90s Topps Chrome refractors. I think 90s HOFers are waiting to explode.

Earlier than that? You need to buy 80s Tiffany. I think there's still a lot of room to grow in Tiffany - it's very undervalued. 1985 will soon reach 50 years old.

Earlier? Many collectors on this site still are amazed Johnny Bench and Joe Morgan Big Red Machine players are found relatively cheap.

Oddball? I like Kahns. Seems those have room to grow due to rarity.

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It being a quadruple print will always hurt its value and pretending it is anything close to the Goudey in demand is funny. It’s a great image and a card anyone should be proud to own but as for the original topic it’s not making the top 100 in my honest opinion.

I think centered vintage pretty much across the board is way undervalued. Finding a truly dead-centered vintage card, at least for most of the 30s, 40s, & 50s sets that I collect, is like finding a unicorn. The number of centered 52 Topps Mantles in existence is around 20.

As more and more collectors wake up to the joke that is PSA's drastically shifting grading standards over time, eye appeal will continue to gain ground in the market. I will gladly pay double or triple "comps" for centered copies of what I'm after. I see this trend getting more aggressive over time as well.

I think Japanese cards, particularly Oh, have a lot of upside. I've been picking them up since I have no current cardboard object of my acquisition affection.

Again, I'm with Ryan 100% (we have to stop meeting like this or people will talk). There are approximately 40 non-Sporting News, non-blank back Ruth rookies. That is spread over 11 different backs. That makes even the most common non-SN ad back Ruth rookie rare, and three (Wares, Holmes to Homes and Green Joyce have only one known copy). This is the rookie card of the greatest player ever.

If you have 100 other cards in mind why not share your opinion on the topic? That is what the thread is for.

D305 Bond Bread
 

A lot of folks are talking about rare cards (not for grade, but true rarity). That is NOT how value is equated in the hobby. There has to be demand. It is far more important than supply. And members saying 6 and 7 figure cards will go up, you might be right but to 99% of us, that doesn't really matter. Unless I find something like that in the wild, or win the lottery, I won't have one. On the other hand, this could be a candidate for increasing value and they are still affordable.

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1952 Topps Willie Mays
 

52 Topps Mays peaked and doubled or tripled in value after Hank Aaron's passing. But like 52 Topps Jackie, I think centered high grade 52 Topps Mays have a lot of room to grow to close the gap with Mick.

I used percentage increase as a way to avoid everyone commenting that the answer is the t206 Wagner or 1952 Mantle, which are likely candidates to see the highest dollar value increase.

You have identified the flaw in my thinking, the answer is absolutely a $10 card that gets a massive spike. Probably something along the lines of the boost the T202 Lord/Tannehill got after people realized Joe Jackson was in the center panel.

Absolutely. All of the "bread" Jackie cards have been moving. The Exhibit sized one SGC 4.5 went for $3894 in the Lelands auction that just closed.

So are his Exhibit cards. Both of them (regular and Canadian). The regular Exhibit cards are settling into the $700-$800 range in vg-ex slabs. I think these have promise, especially if we in the ESCO research community can get our acts together and figure out the exact issue year.

This one has a PSA pop of 2 and hasn't transacted in three years; teeters on the edge of that rarity-obscurity spectrum

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Baseball's Role in integrating United States society is a story that has legs
 

I think Jackie Robinson is the right track, but 5-10 years late on Jackie. Better bet now are the other HoF players of color whose names will arise in all retellings of baseball's integration: Doby, Campanella, Banks, Minoso, Clemente, Irvin, Frank Robinson. Also, any other "first of that team" players: Green, Jethroe, Thompson, et al.

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1948 Swell Sport Thrills Jackie Robinson is another card of his that pre-dates the Leaf and is more rare.

It is also a condition sensitive card, so any card above a beater is extremely tough to find. Centering is extremely difficult too.

Card is already growing in value and has more room yet, especially the nicer examples via grade or eye appeal.

I could not fathom a guess as to which card will increase most in value in the next 10 years but it is safe to say it will be one that I do not own.

I don't know why, just a hunch perhaps, but I feel like T205 Orval Overall Piedmont 25 cards will rocket up in value. Coincidentally, I happen to have one for sale on BST right now.

I do not have any T205 Orval Overall Piedmont 25 cards available...you will be wasting your time searching for it. Though if I keep flinging up posts extolling the card's virtues, perhaps Orval will raise so precipitously high in value to make it foolish on my part not to sell it. By the way, it is an attractive card, even if Orval's nose is slightly misaligned. The misaligned nose makes it one of the more interesting cards in the T205 set, and coupled with the fact that it has the Piedmont 25 back, the most commonly collected of T205 backs, makes this card one of the keys to the set.

Brian (Pretzel Logician for hire...all this pretzel work is making me thirsty)

I’m surprised Jack Johnson cards are reasonable. I could see them taking off at some point. Disclosure: I don’t own any.

Johnny you realize the last on of those sold for $190,000 - about double what the price is for a comparable Mantle.

I agree with every part of Leon's response. As for my opinion, I'm inclined that demand will continue to spike for modern international players like Ohtani. And maybe particularly Ohtani. If Ohtani continues to be mentioned annually for MVP consideration, and should he land on a decent team that enables him to compete for a World Series crown, I think his rookie cards including his autographed inserts will undergo even a more meteoric rise in value.

That’s what I thought when the PBS documentary came out?

And if those bond bread “” rookies really takeoff, it should also impact the square cornered later produced copies…similar to exhibits. Imho of course.

[QUOTE=Leon;2293910]And members saying 6 and 7 figure cards will go up, you might be right but to 99% of us, that doesn't really matter./QUOTE]

Ok fair enough. Going more mainstream(ish), I feel that Musial and Hornsby are totally and completely undervalued. These are two of the best players ever, even better than many of the names mentioned here. Yet, their greatness is not reflected in card prices. Perhaps it is because of the cities/sub-markets they played in. Anyway, as prices for the Ruth, Cobb, Wagner, and Gehrig, in pre war, and Mantle, Mays, and Robinson, in post-war, make those players unattainable to many, that "many" will look to the next tier of "all-time" names. To me, Musial and Hornsby were as good as they get and their cards are so relatively affordable that their cards will benefit greatly from this trickle down. So:

1948 Bowman and 1949 Leaf Musial
1917 & 1921 Hornsby items

In addition to Hornsby and Musial, I think Ted Williams seems to have been dropped to the 2nd or 3rd tier in collectors' hierarchy over the past decade, and I am not sure why. When I was younger, Williams was always on the shortlist of Top 4-8 players all time. Now, it feels like he is an afterthought in most folks lists of Top 10-15 players.

110% agree on Williams. He has just been left in the dust for some reason, so a good time to buy? Same with DiMaggio. Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio?

Williams
 

I agree--Ted is so undervalued. Specifically, this rookie-era card.
Brian

1949 Leaf Paige

1/1 2023-24 Fanatics/Topps Signed Platinum Refractor Prism Logoman.... Victor Wembanyama (bi-lingual version) PSA 10+ (uncirculated)

Couldn't resist...

Wow, the bi-lingual version. Those are the ones where the logoman patch is from a jersey actually worn in an official game by the player on the card.

It's already at $2 million, can it really go higher?:eek:

2001 Sue Bird rookie card in PSA10 or 2004 Diana Taurasi rookie card in PSA10. This is a serious answer. I think woman's basketball will continue to increase in popularity and these two cards are genuine condition rarities of possibly the two greatest WNBA players ever.