MLB Greats Who Bordered on Post Season Zero's Or Mediocre
 

In honor of the other thread I thought I would flip it

MLB Greats who were Zero's or boderline Mediocre

Who do you think Qualifies and why

Ted Williams.

He hit .200 with no homers and one RBI in 30 at-bats plate appearances.

Barry Bonds mostly sucked. Ty Cobb wasn't very good.

First one that comes to mind for me is Ted Williams 1946 World Series
BA of .200
5 for 25
No extra base hits
5 strikeouts
1 RBI
5 BBs
Total 30 PAs

Mike Trout was by far the worst.

Lifetime Postseason BA:

.083


1 hit in 15 At Bats.....and vs the Royals no less.


Also caught stealing.

Bonds while hitting only .245 hit 9 home runs and walked 52 times in 200 AB's.

Stick to hijacking threads by talking about bad music, your baseball knowledge is subpar.

You can also look at the 2002 WS, which tends to make up for his previous struggles:

.471 BA
.700 OBP
1.994 OPS
8 hits, including 2 doubles and 4 HRs in 17 ABs, plus 13 walks for 30 PAs total

While my Giants lost to the Halos and their worthless rally monkey, there was some chatter that Bonds might have a legit shot at MVP.

Kershaw

Barry Bonds .191 with 1 HR and 3 RBI without steroids was a total zero.

Willie Mays .248/.343/.325 1 HR in 134 PA was almost as bad.

Clayton Kershaw 4.22 ERA in 194 is the worst for pitchers with 100+ innings.

Roger Clemens was almost as bad with his 3.75 ERA (3.88 ERA 1-2 in 9 starts without steroids).

Verlander in the World Series

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For me I remember Mr. May as George Steinbrenner like to call him

He hit just .208 over 116 plate appearances, including a 1-for-22 World Series in 1981. This followed an equally disastrous ALCS the same year, when he hit .154 over three games.

This is Dave Winfield

It's funny how you and others need to bring up steroids when you talk about Bonds stats, yet you celebrate the Yankees 2009 World Series when most of the team were 'roids guys: Arod, Clemens, Pettitte, knoblauch, Giambi, etc.

So World Series Titles with steroids guys are ok, but stats don't count. Yah that makes sense. You'd make a great Democrat.

Roger Maris and Stan Musial didn't exactly wear out any baseballs in multiple series.

Just remembered and had to confirm

Roger Hornsby 2nd Higher career batting avg at .358 and in playoffs with St. Louis and Chicago

Only .245 Batting Average, .288 OBP and .327 Slugging with no homers over 12 games and 49 AB’s

And with that every thread needs a Card

Ernie Banks. Absent on picture day.

In a thread with steroids, playoff lightweights, Barry Bonds, and the New York Yankees...you chose to introduce politics?

Weren't there enough topics for people to bicker over?

And those averages were helped a lot by one outstanding WS. As I said, he MOSTLY sucked, and I stand by that. There is likely a bad song on point too, wise one. :)

…you chose to introduce politics?

He wasn’t lying...

"one outstanding World Series"

hard to suck when you are outstanding. (that's what she said)

thank you.

The many playoffs series in which he sucked were not the one in which he was outstanding. Seems consistent to me, but perhaps I am damaged from all that Dylan.

When did I ever celebrate the Yankees 2009 WS title? I can't stand the Yankees or ARoid. The same for the Red Sox and Big Dopey or any other dopers.

The problem with Bonds irrespective of steroids, was a classic narcissist approach, it was King Barry, his special chair, and his supporting cast. You don't win Championships that way, he wasn't a leader, he was selfish to no end, and cared little for his teammates. His attitude repelled so many people who wanted to root for him. He made his Godfather, arguably the greatest player ever, uncomfortable to be his Godfather. No wonder Jeff Kent wanted to kick his ass in the dugout during a game. He really made himself such an unlikeable character and none of it was necessary. Barry was cancer and needed to be cut out.

Compare that era to the 2010/12/14 WS Giants, that's how you build a team and win.

Signed,
Devout Giants fan for 50 years.

Did you see the DeNiro movie The Fan? Wesley Snipes was awesome as a Bonds=based character.

Oh no, here we go.

Bob Dylan sounds like he has balls in his mouth when he sings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHvpPdD0KfU

now back to players who failed to show up in the Postseason.

How 'bout David Wright

.198 career postseason BA - 24 games

18 for 106 2 HRs.

Unlike Mike Trout though, he probably could figure out a lawnmower.

Focus, you are starting to drift again.

Hopefully you are enjoying the Yankee beatdown that's going on in Houston.


Sweep? or do the Yankees steal one and bow out 4 games to 1.

Hard for me to root for either of those teams.

McGwire and Canseco each hit under .200 in multiple WS.

Why do you need to root for one of them to have an opinion?

I think I stumped Peter.

He's got no response.

I'm the Net54 closer. I shut Peter down.

I WON!!!!!!!

Ah ok. Fair point. Houston obviously is the better team, so I would pick them 4-2.

Houston Phillies WS, Phillies win cuz Dusty will screw it up.

Its true that Mays was not his dominant self with the bat in the postseason. Unfortunately for him, much of his postseason experience was well before and after his prime. I believe the stat line you sight includes the Negro League World Series, when Willie was just 17 years old. Mays also struggled in the WS during his rookie year in the MLB in 1951 when he was 20. In limited playing time, he also wasn't his dominant self with the Mets in 1973, his final season, at age 42.

But if you look at his other postseason appearances (ages 23, 31 and 40) he was was a little better. His slash line for those years was .263/.353/.403. Not great for Willie, but not a total disaster either.

WIllie was on deck when Bobby Thomson went deep.

Its true. I also heard about a Catch he made in the '54 Series. Supposed to have been really impressive or something.

Political insults by post 12. Sounds about right.

Working our way up to personal attacks and fat jokes. Just getting warmed up!

We don’t get many good fat jokes, but I’m crossing my fingers.

The only thing larger than the backlog at PSA is some card collectors’ waistlines.

I won’t quit my day job.

There were a few attempts here:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=326441

The astonishing thing about the catch is not how much ground he covered so quickly, but how he instantly judged the flight of the ball and ran to the exact right place.

And then fires a bullet to 2nd base to keep the runner on first from advancing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7bLt2xKaNH0

Clemente would have thrown the ball on a fly to the first baseman and doubled up the runner. :D

He was ROY in 1951, so I don't think it is fair to discount that WS. I forgot bbref adds the NMLBs. Taking just his Giants postseasons .241 BA .342 SLG and 1 HR in 22 games. Mays was always great in the field, but he never had a great offensive postseason. Compare that to Clemente and Aaron who were exceptional and Mantle, although his BA was . 257, slugged .535 with 18 HRs.

Mays slugged .600 with an OPS .989 during his 1971 postseason. Even by Mays' standards, that is pretty great.

No one is claiming Mays was better than Clemente, Aaron, or Mantle in the postseason.

And yet the World Series MVP is named after him…

What got me was how after the catch he instantaneously turned and fired the ball back to the infield.

I believe it was the '52 WS, between the Yanks and the Dodgers, when poor Gil Hodges seemed hopeless at the plate. He was about 0-15 when his local priest in Brooklyn asked at Mass for all to pray for Gil. The Yanks won in 7 games, thanks in major part to Billy Martin's sensational infield catch. 'Dem Bums! Wait till next year.

you only get the save if its the last post of the thread

In the same series Bob Robertson hit .438/.438/1.250/1.688 with 4 HRs.

Mays was ok, Robertson was great.

Do not remind me I thought I put that out of my mind.

He played so so well (when healthy) during the regular season and then he went on vacation in the playoffs.

As a Yankee fan, that warms my heart.....and his brother Ben is a friend of mine! :)

How is Aaron Judge's post season hitting?

with the dome open or closed?

As a Giants fan, I sure love seeing those Verlander 2012 WS stats!!

My favorite modern player, sure shot HOFer, has been to 4 postseasons and is 5 for 33 = .152 ave with 1 dinger.

This year was 1 for 8 :(

You are better than this! Hopefully time will turn this around


Oh, and lets see some cards

Very surprised
 

This one was a complete surprise to me. I had no idea.

In some ways, this is a double dip because you’ve got a quasi-zero who delivered in the WS against a HOFer who was a WS zero…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ5xfO1nYMU

Williams played hurt.

"1946 World Series. The Red Sox played a seven-game Series against the St. Louis Cardinals. The Red Sox had finished so far ahead of everyone else that they coasted near the end, several players taking off substantial periods of time. The Cardinals had to play two extra games, winning both games of a best-of-three playoff against the Brooklyn Dodgers. While trying to keep in shape, the Red Sox brought in some other American Leaguers and had sort of a mock game during which Williams was hit on the elbow and seriously hurt. He wasn’t able to perform up to par, and that may well have cost the Red Sox the hard-fought World Series. He never had another chance to play in a World Series."

Even though he was hurt, Ted was absolutely crushed that he performed so poorly.

You can say what you want about his antagonistic relationship with the Boston media-and I certainly think a lot of it was deserved. But Teddy Ballgame never made any excuses. He felt he let the team down. The Red Sox wouldn't have sniffed that lone World Series without him.

When he had a subpar 1959 due to neck issues, he refused a raise to come back for the '60 season, accepting a one year deal for what he was paid in '59. He refused to go out on a down note, came back, and absolutely destroyed the baseball. At age 41, he hit .316, and slammed 29 home runs in 310 AB. He OPS'd .1.096, good for a 190 OPS+.

I'll always wonder what Ted would have done if he'd come back for the 1961 campaign, with two new teams in the AL. He hit .388 in 1957, and if he was healthy, with that watered down pitching, and only playing about 100 games, I wonder if he could have approached .400 again.

Of course, then he'd have to go deep in his final at bat again. ;)

Dodgers

This gets my vote for post of the Year. Hahahaha...