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chriskim 06-25-2022 08:59 PM

Highly anticipated triple logoman was 50% off
 
Highly anticipated Lebron James triple Logoman only sold fro $2.4Mil. Ouch... I thought there was a $5Mil bounty to find the card.

https://goldin.co/item/2021-22-panin...game-usedc3kir

ullmandds 06-25-2022 09:06 PM

A what?

Peter_Spaeth 06-25-2022 09:24 PM

Maybe it's connected to the decline in Bitcoin values?

Eric72 06-25-2022 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2237411)
A what?

An ultra-modern basketball card with three pieces of fabric and three tiny images of LeBron James.

Eric72 06-25-2022 09:28 PM

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I believe this is the card:

Leon 06-25-2022 09:29 PM

Almost 3m for a new card still seems like a lot of money to me.
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Casey2296 06-25-2022 09:37 PM

Man, I could build such a beautiful pre-war collection for that kind of money.

mrreality68 06-25-2022 09:37 PM

It’s all in the thread count

Peter_Spaeth 06-25-2022 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2237414)
An ultra-modern basketball card with three pieces of fabric and three tiny images of LeBron James.

Those have to be the tiniest images of the subject in card history.

Peter_Spaeth 06-25-2022 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2237416)
Almost 3m for a new card still seems like a lot of money to me.
.

Not if you have 3 billion.

Eric72 06-25-2022 09:42 PM

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Here's a larger image of the multi-million dollar card:

Eric72 06-25-2022 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2237419)
Those have to be the tiniest images of the subject in card history.

I believe they're smaller than 1950 Topps Feltback images...and that's saying something.

Carter08 06-25-2022 10:03 PM

You could buy 300 Jackie well made pants for that amount of money!

mrreality68 06-25-2022 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2237430)
You could buy 300 Jackie well made pants for that amount of money!

Those well made pants have a lower thread count

Peter_Spaeth 06-25-2022 10:14 PM

Why is LeBron only an Authentic?

Leon 06-25-2022 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2237432)
Those well made pants have a lower thread count

The pants were cropped!
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Peter_Spaeth 06-25-2022 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2237422)
I believe they're smaller than 1950 Topps Feltback images...and that's saying something.

At actual size there is no way anyone over 40 could even make out those images lol.

Peter_Spaeth 06-25-2022 10:16 PM

The Lakers patch doesn't look like fabric.

Eric72 06-25-2022 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2237437)
The Lakers patch doesn't look like fabric.

It looks like an iron-on. LOL

samosa4u 06-26-2022 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriskim (Post 2237408)
Highly anticipated Lebron James triple Logoman only sold fro $2.4Mil. Ouch... I thought there was a $5Mil bounty to find the card.

https://goldin.co/item/2021-22-panin...game-usedc3kir

Why "ouch?" This is an 18th year non-signed card of LeBron and it went for $2.4M ... is that supposed to be a fail?

prestigecollectibles 06-26-2022 12:29 AM

The hype on this card was ridiculous.

A One-of-a-Kind LeBron James Card Could Be the Most Expensive Ever Sold at Auction
The Panini Triple Logoman could sell for more than $6.6 million.

https://robbreport.com/shelter/art-c...on-1234688914/

Quote:

Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 2237449)
Why "ouch?" This is an 18th year non-signed card of LeBron and it went for $2.4M ... is that supposed to be a fail?


michael3322 06-26-2022 12:40 AM

Wonder what happens to this card's value if Lebron ever joins a 4th team and they make a new card with all 4 logomen.

babraham 06-26-2022 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2237421)
Here's a larger image of the multi-million dollar card:

For such an expensive card, you'd think they could make the lettering on his name look less blurred. ;) :D

rjackson44 06-26-2022 02:18 AM

Ugly card nuff said

Republicaninmass 06-26-2022 04:10 AM

Sheesh, couldn't even shill it.

fkm_bky 06-26-2022 05:56 AM

We should be talking about the Ruth rookie that sold for half a mil in that ridiculous PSA case where it can just float around like a duck on a pond. PSA slabs like that are a total joke and they should be embarrassed.

Amazing card, just not holdered in that fashion

Bill

chriskim 06-26-2022 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael3322 (Post 2237451)
Wonder what happens to this card's value if Lebron ever joins a 4th team and they make a new card with all 4 logomen.

Would be the same case as Tom Brady's "last ball"

Carter08 06-26-2022 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fkm_bky (Post 2237467)
We should be talking about the Ruth rookie that sold for half a mil in that ridiculous PSA case where it can just float around like a duck on a pond. PSA slabs like that are a total joke and they should be embarrassed.

Amazing card, just not holdered in that fashion

Bill

Huge pet peeve of mine.

chriskim 06-26-2022 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2237413)
Maybe it's connected to the decline in Bitcoin values?


Yup! Definitely one of the reasons....

However, i think this 1952 Topps complete set was a steal. $74K

https://goldin.co/item/1952-topps-co...le-jackiemmebb

Johnny630 06-26-2022 06:21 AM

A lot of stuff went rather low in his auction last night.

skelly423 06-26-2022 06:53 AM

Goldin advertised this card as the most important modern card, and the holy grail of the card hobby. A bit of humble pie looks good on them. This card is trash, and it's nice to see the market didn't fall for their advertising blitz.

Snapolit1 06-26-2022 07:09 AM

stupid question but what is the logo even from? His shorts? Bottom of jersey? Part of his athletic supporter? Honestly no idea.

Carter08 06-26-2022 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriskim (Post 2237475)
Yup! Definitely one of the reasons....

However, i think this 1952 Topps complete set was a steal. $74K

https://goldin.co/item/1952-topps-co...le-jackiemmebb

Oh wow. Seems like a great pickup.

Carter08 06-26-2022 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by skelly423 (Post 2237479)
Goldin advertised this card as the most important modern card, and the holy grail of the card hobby. A bit of humble pie looks good on them. This card is trash, and it's nice to see the market didn't fall for their advertising blitz.

Yeah, I just don’t see it. I mean $2m is nothing to sneeze at but it’s arguably the second best player of all time at best (which is amazing but still) and not even signed.

Snapolit1 06-26-2022 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2237487)
Yeah, I just don’t see it. I mean $2m is nothing to sneeze at but it’s arguably the second best player of all time at best (which is amazing but still) and not even signed.

Whoever bought it (might be a group of people) clearly can afford it without breaking a sweat. An "investment" no doubt. The whole concept of the card strikes me as innane.

I'd comfortably say with the degree of derision the card got from many people it will never sell for a profit. But more likely someone will find this post in 10 years and mock me for being an idiot.

Snapolit1 06-26-2022 07:30 AM

Buyer(s) could have bought all of these instead and kept 1.5M for a rainy day.

https://goldin.co/buy/?search=ruth&sort=

BobbyStrawberry 06-26-2022 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2237488)
Whoever bought it (might be a group of people) clearly can afford it without breaking a sweat. An "investment" no doubt. The whole concept of the card strikes me as innane.

I'd comfortably say with the degree of derision the card got from many people it will never sell for a profit. But more likely someone will find this post in 10 years and mock me for being an idiot.

Or it will pop up on eBay later this week with an 8 mil BIN and "🔥 INVEST 🔥 PSA 10?"

Snapolit1 06-26-2022 07:37 AM

Will be interesting to see how much funny money in the hobby dries up as bitcoin and almost everything else swoons.

Bitcoin will eventually be exposed as the greatest money laundering tool of all time or I will will eat my hat. Government will likely turn a blind eye to it (too complicated) and instead continue to focus on money laundering by pizza places on the Jersey shore and, well, laundry joints. The big fish.

nwobhm 06-26-2022 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2237416)
Almost 3m for a new card still seems like a lot of money to me.
.

Who were the bidders? Who was the winner? Is the winner in any way connected to the seller? Are the winner and seller in any way connected to the auction house?

This looks like a scam to inflate values.

ullmandds 06-26-2022 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2237414)
An ultra-modern basketball card with three pieces of fabric and three tiny images of LeBron James.

oh ya...I must've missed all the reminders I set for this highly anticipated pre WAR baseball card auction event.

Rhotchkiss 06-26-2022 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2237490)
Buyer(s) could have bought all of these instead and kept 1.5M for a rainy day.

https://goldin.co/buy/?search=ruth&sort=

The M101-4 Ruth was a record, shattering a different recent psa sale by well over $150k. All the Ruth stuff in Goldin last night did very very well. And the HOF t206s in Heritage all brought strong, if not consistent, results.

Carter08 06-26-2022 07:55 AM

Joe Jackson polo grounds went stronger than I wanted on heritage.

I ended up picking up tickets to 1980 usa hockey. Paid more for the gold medal game ticket than the Russia ticket. Same condition. Makes no sense.

Bored5000 06-26-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2237503)
Joe Jackson polo grounds went stronger than I wanted on heritage.

I ended up picking up tickets to 1980 usa hockey. Paid more for the gold medal game ticket than the Russia ticket. Same condition. Makes no sense.

Wonder if that was because so many people think the Russia game was for the gold medal.

Carter08 06-26-2022 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 2237506)
Wonder if that was because so many people think the Russia game was for the gold medal.

Very possible.

Frank A 06-26-2022 09:36 AM

Who in their right mind would pay 2.4 million for the ugliest most useless card ever made. A fool and his money are soon parted.

Carter08 06-26-2022 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank A (Post 2237527)
Who in their right mind would pay 2.4 million for the ugliest most useless card ever made. A fool and his money are soon parted.

1948 Bowman Rizzuto called and said it’s uglier than the Lebron.

Exhibitman 06-26-2022 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2237530)
1948 Bowman Rizzuto called and said it’s uglier than the Lebron.

1927 Exhibit Lazzeri could chase them both up a tree

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...%20Lazzeri.jpg

BobbyStrawberry 06-26-2022 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2237530)
1948 Bowman Rizzuto called and said it’s uglier than the Lebron.

My nomination would be those cards that are "infield dirt" relics with a crappy picture that has the team logo photoshopped out because they don't have the license.

Casey2296 06-26-2022 09:51 AM

Such a poorly designed card, you could have done so much with it if was a postcard size card. It looks more like an homage to the Jerry West logo with tiny pics of LJ squeezed in as an afterthought.

Peter_Spaeth 06-26-2022 09:52 AM

Sorry if someone answered my prior question. Why Authentic?

BobbyStrawberry 06-26-2022 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2237535)
Sorry if someone answered my prior question. Why Authentic?

I could be wrong but my guess is that the submitter didn't want it to say "9" so they went with an "A only" request.

Exhibitman 06-26-2022 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2237535)
Sorry if someone answered my prior question. Why Authentic?

Probably because the logos are not evenly and consistently seated in their slots. Which goes toward proving how stupid the whole thing is anyway.

Peter_Spaeth 06-26-2022 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2237534)
Such a poorly designed card, you could have done so much with it if was a postcard size card. It looks more like an homage to the Jerry West logo with tiny pics of LJ squeezed in as an afterthought.

Just by making the orientation vertical, and I think there was room, they could have had much larger images of LeBron. But the people bidding on this don't care, I assume, about the aesthetics.

Peter_Spaeth 06-26-2022 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2237503)
Joe Jackson polo grounds went stronger than I wanted on heritage.

I ended up picking up tickets to 1980 usa hockey. Paid more for the gold medal game ticket than the Russia ticket. Same condition. Makes no sense.

I don't know if we'll see a trend, but for what they are -- among the very few career Joe Jackson issues none of which are easy to find -- the playing card issues have always struck me as relatively undervalued.

ullmandds 06-26-2022 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2237534)
Such a poorly designed card, you could have done so much with it if was a postcard size card. It looks more like an homage to the Jerry West logo with tiny pics of LJ squeezed in as an afterthought.

ya...the design on a lot of this stuff is an abomination...my sister, who is an excellent graphic designer, could do much, much better!

And at what point does thickness factor into what makes a card...a card? Or doesn't it matter? Some of these newer "premium" cards are like 1/8" thick????

ullmandds 06-26-2022 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2237537)
I could be wrong but my guess is that the submitter didn't want it to say "9" so they went with an "A only" request.

i'd guess it's altered...as many newer basketball cards are. Which if it is... to alter a 1/1...is just stoopid!

But many are stoopid (crazy for cocoa puffs) when it comes to "10's."

Snapolit1 06-26-2022 11:27 AM

I watched a ton of breaks of modern cards and one of the funniest things to me is when people go insane "winning" a "LAUNDRY TAG" relic card. People are frothing at the mouth how lucky they are to win the 1/10 Trevor Lawrence "LAUNDRY TAG". Always makes me chuckle. . . . .congrats . . . .amazing win . . . you now own a tag that was possibly cut out from another guy's worn underwear. Something to cherish indeed. A family relic to be passed down from one generation to the next.



Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2237552)
ya...the design on a lot of this stuff is an abomination...my sister, who is an excellent graphic designer, could do much, much better!

And at what point does thickness factor into what makes a card...a card? Or doesn't it matter? Some of these newer "premium" cards are like 1/8" thick????


samosa4u 06-26-2022 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2237535)
Sorry if someone answered my prior question. Why Authentic?

Peter is asking a good question here and I think a lot of people are overlooking this part.

PSA has given some of these logoman cards numerical grades in the past. Why does this one not have it? If it had graded a PSA 10 GEM MINT, then do you think the final price would have been 2.4M? Another way of looking at it is this: a 1952 Topps Mantle PSA AUTHENTIC example is going to sell for much less than a PSA 5 EX or a PSA 7 NM, right?

Fred 06-26-2022 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2237417)
Man, I could build such a beautiful pre-war collection for that kind of money.

Yeah, no shit! You hit that one dead on. Even with the escalation in prices, $3M would still build a nice collection. If you weren't going for primo grade stuff, you could have a lot of nice cardboard (oh yeah, with all the plastic that goes around it these days).

Exhibitman 06-26-2022 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2237579)
I watched a ton of breaks of modern cards and one of the funniest things to me is when people go insane "winning" a "LAUNDRY TAG" relic card. People are frothing at the mouth how lucky they are to win the 1/10 Trevor Lawrence "LAUNDRY TAG". Always makes me chuckle. . . . .congrats . . . .amazing win . . . you now own a tag that was possibly cut out from another guy's worn underwear. Something to cherish indeed. A family relic to be passed down from one generation to the next.

Or you could just wipe your ass with it.

Peter_Spaeth 06-26-2022 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2237537)
I could be wrong but my guess is that the submitter didn't want it to say "9" so they went with an "A only" request.

Why would anyone prefer A to 9??

53toppscollector 06-26-2022 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2237652)
Why would anyone prefer A to 9??

I think its purely psychological.

This is a 1/1 so whatever grade it gets, there won't be a higher or lower grade. If it grades a 10, people will pay a lot more for it. If it grades an 8 (and PSA is very tough on thicker cards/jersey/relic cards), I think it might lose some of its luster. Grading it an A kind of splits the difference, because you as a buyer dont have any idea if there are surface issues or anything else wrong with the card when you are buying it.

BobbyStrawberry 06-26-2022 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2237652)
Why would anyone prefer A to 9??

For a 1/1, I think the idea -from a submitter who intends to sell it immediately- would be that while a 9 discloses that the card is somehow imperfect, an A does not.

chalupacollects 06-26-2022 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael3322 (Post 2237451)
Wonder what happens to this card's value if Lebron ever joins a 4th team and they make a new card with all 4 logomen.

It gets Brady'd...

chalupacollects 06-26-2022 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2237414)
An ultra-modern basketball card with three pieces of fabric and three tiny images of LeBron James.

and no autograph smh...

swarmee 06-26-2022 04:22 PM

According to posters on blowout, the breaker who opened the card initially was rumored to have dropped it, damaging a corner. So the card might have graded a PSA 6, in which case, the owner requested it get an AUTH grade rather than a number.

ullmandds 06-26-2022 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2237676)
According to posters on blowout, the breaker who opened the card initially was rumored to have dropped it, damaging a corner. So the card might have graded a PSA 6, in which case, the owner requested it get an AUTH grade rather than a number.

reverse psychology?

Rhotchkiss 06-26-2022 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2237676)
According to posters on blowout, the breaker who opened the card initially was rumored to have dropped it, damaging a corner. So the card might have graded a PSA 6, in which case, the owner requested it get an AUTH grade rather than a number.

Dropped it? Wow. That’s like a $2mm fumble.

What are they saying on blowout about the price and what that says for the state of things?

Exhibitman 06-26-2022 05:25 PM

On the other hand, Goldin hyped an uggo POS made a few months ago into a big payday, regardless of whether it is $2.4 or $5.0. He's got us talking about it and about his AH, so from a PR standpoint the sale was a rousing success. Now, whether the buyer is going to profit is another story, but I want lots more shiny, expensive trinkets to distract the monied 'bros. As far as I am concerned, let all the 'bros buy all the shiny crap and stay out of vintage...at least until I am ready to sell.

japhi 06-26-2022 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2237535)
Sorry if someone answered my prior question. Why Authentic?

Damage to the patch window is my understanding.

ullmandds 06-26-2022 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by japhi (Post 2237707)
damage to the patch window is my understanding.

no! Not the patch window!!!!!

BobbyStrawberry 06-26-2022 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2237708)
no! Not the patch window!!!!!

I thought it was called "the hole"

Eric72 06-26-2022 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2237676)
According to posters on blowout, the breaker who opened the card initially was rumored to have dropped it, damaging a corner. So the card might have graded a PSA 6, in which case, the owner requested it get an AUTH grade rather than a number.

Damage near one of the patches is what caught my attention. It certainly doesn't look like this would occur from being dropped accidentally.

butchie_t 06-26-2022 06:09 PM

A box of these cards. And I use the term box very loosely, contained 10 cards each and they went for 15K a box. Drake (whoever the hell he is) bought 14 boxes for a miserly sum of over 200K looking for that card and came up empty. Wonder if he threw all of those 140 cards away?

https://twitter.com/kileymcd/status/...141827041.html


Christ on a crutch, Panini, as well as other manufacturers are making a mockery of the word hobby.

Ugh,

Butch

DaveW 06-26-2022 06:25 PM

I must be slow, but I still don’t get what these patches are. Are they from game used uniforms or ? One of them looks pretty shabby - is that good or bad? I’ll go back to the 60 ‘s now . . .

Snapolit1 06-26-2022 06:29 PM

Even the print on Le Bron James looks likes crap. Or I am developing a vision disorder.

Really pretty comical all around. Not that I wouldn't mind accepting 2 million from someone.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2237711)
Damage near one of the patches is what caught my attention. It certainly doesn't look like this would occur from being dropped accidentally.


Peter_Spaeth 06-26-2022 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2237725)
Even the print on Le Bron James looks likes crap. Or I am developing a vision disorder.

Really pretty comical all around. Not that I wouldn't mind accepting 2 million from someone.

IMO owning it is an ego thing, it's pissing farther than your fellow crypto Instagramers, it doesn't really matter what the card LOOKS like. Maybe if Logan Paul won it he can laminate it and wear it around his neck like he did a million dollar Pokémon card.

DaveW 06-26-2022 06:36 PM

So, if you were to cut the little logoman off of the back of this card and then encapsulate it as “the logoman from the rare Labron James triple logoman card”, would it be worth even more money? This hobby gets sillier every day.

butchie_t 06-26-2022 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveW (Post 2237724)
I must be slow, but I still don’t get what these patches are. Are they from game used uniforms or ? One of them looks pretty shabby - is that good or bad? I’ll go back to the 60 ‘s now . . .

Not exactly sure but I believe they are cut from the top portion of each jersey he wore from each team. Jerry West should be getting some sort of a commission for each of those images too. ;-)

Game used??? Probably…

Butch…

Snapolit1 06-26-2022 06:50 PM

If there was a NFT of this card I'd happily pay $3 million for it. Just sayin.


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