Any interest in piggybacking a $50 sub??? CLOSED - Grades POSTED!! 6/20/22
 

I snagged my first allotment today. It is for 20 cards at $50 per pop. I am unsure if I am even going to use it, but I can be easily persuaded if someone else wants to tag along. Just checking the waters to see if anyone wanted to sub anything. I can take it or leave it, because at MOST I only have around 2-3 at that level.

Hey Bobby. I might be interested. What is the value limit? Thank you

Sonny

I have a few I could throw in.

$999.....

Awesome. I’ll check my pile tonight. Thank you.

Bobby would we be looking at a yearish turn around most likely at the $50 level?

Thanks.

Scott

Oh lord...I hope not...lol

I gave up on grading them anymore.....

Me and my buddies are flippin em and puttin em in bicycle spokes these days.....

We have officially gone full circle. I like it!!!!

I have a few I could throw in. Both vintage and modern if needed

Don't want to spend the money, but I have this real nice (to me, so it'll probably come back a PSA 2 MK/ST/PD/OC/AA/N6 combo) Bench rookie, plus a 1968 Mays PSA 8 ST that I'd like to crack open, wipe away the schmutz and resubmit, so I may be in for the sub if you decide to do it.

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Darren...does that Bench make sense to submit at $50??? The cards I am looking to sub better be close to that $999 limit.

That's the big question, isn't it?
Based on recent sales data, it would have to come back a minimum of a 6 (which it damn well should, but I am probably 100% wrong) to be 'worth' it at a base level (money I paid for it + $50 + shipping and insurance to and fro), but since I'm not looking to sell it, that may just be money thrown to the winds. If it was a mere $10 special, then it would be an unequivocal yes (and the shipping and insurance cost would be eased by the large number of cards I would submit).

The Bench looks like a '4' to me. It's also possible that your scanner is like mine....it makes cards look worse than they really are. This is what I was thinking of submitting....what do you think?

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To me, your trio of cards is a no-brainer. Real good stuff, and the added punch of being slabbed with a number will send their values skyward.

I'm wondering what you're seeing that says the Bench is a 4? It's really sharp all around, although the scan does make it appear as if the upper left corner is gnarled, but that's not the case. The burlap is a lot thinner/lighter up there, is all...

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Turn Around times
 

Bobby, I do not have anything to submit but wanted to post these turnaround times for (3) $50 orders i have done.
5 cards submitted Feb 4, Entered Feb 18, still in research.
5 cards submitted Feb 23, Eneterd March 4th, shipped back to me March 29. (???) newer than last and already in my hands!
5 cards submitted Feb 27, Enetered March 8th, still in Research.
Hope this helps, but I doubt it!

I’m a gluten for punishment. Despite still waiting on our Swingin Sixties submission return, I’m good for a card or two.

The 1968's I have been terrible at grading. Maybe it is a '6'. The burlap throws me off. For my 3, I got the Aaron at a 5. I HAD the Musial at a '7', although the scan makes it look worse than it is....the Mantle is probably a '3'.

Thank you Jeff.....I still can't believe I am going through looking for stuff to submit!! I really can't stomach paying $50 per card. Guess I am living in the past.

20 Card Sub

1) Bobby
2) Bobby
3) Bobby

4) Brent
5) Brent

6) Phil
7) Phil
8) Phil

I agree you on the Aaron at a 5 and Mantle at a 3. The Musial looks like a 4 to me. The left corners look a tad soft, the bottom edge is rough, and the T/B centering isn't the best. You have to look out for the centering on the reverse on that issue too. Like you said, maybe it's the scan. Just offering a second set of eyes, hope you don't mind. They are all great cards, good luck!

No...I appreciate it. In person it looks super.....the scan tends to bring out all the flaws though.....if the Musial is only a '4', I might not sub that one then....that one is only a banger in mid to semi high grade.

Think I might sub this one. Looks like a pretty nice '2'.

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9) Bobby

Bobby, I've got two too

9) Al
10) Al


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Any idea on the timeframe of getting these cards back? If it's somewhat normal, then...

11) Elms
12) Elms
13) Elms

FYI - I had 4 different 5 card subs which I sent to PSA during February, at the $50 level. I received all back to me roughly 5-6 weeks after they arrived at PSA. All things considered for where they've been, I didn't think that was too bad.

And for the most part, the grades were what I expected. Happy to see nothing randomly got slammed for no logical reason!

I have 5. If it runs over 20, I’m happy to send less to accommodate

14) Sonny
15) Sonny
16) Sonny
17) Sonny
18) Sonny

That's closed then....

Al...Jackie was #9...you are 10 and 11.

19) Bobby

Yall forgot about Jackie!!

been taking about 5 - 6 weeks for me.

I have 1 I'd like to submit if you have the room Bobby.

Yes you can have the last slot.

Bobby any room I have 1.

Jonathan

Jonathan, I think that was it.

***OPINIONS WANTED...EVEN POINTLESS, NOT WELL THOUGHT OUT ONES***

I have three slots for Bobby's submission. One 'should' be taken up by cracking out my PSA 8 ST 1968 Willie Mays and wiping away the schmutz, so that leaves two slots to fill. As a little insight, I'm not planning on selling anything, but it really is all about value, because the way this last year has went, I am never more than 5 minutes away from having to sell everything.

Here are my candidates:

1956 'Hammerin' Hank' - WYSIWYG. Overall pretty decent, but the corners are bumpity.

1972 'Dr. J.' Rookie - Crap! Knew the top left corner was bumped, but just realized the lower left corner has a light crease...so it's low grade. Ugh!!

1980 'The Great One' - really sweet overall, but is the top to bottom centering a killjoy??

1968 Johnny Bench Rookie - it looks awesome, but man, when you examine the scans, things pop up. A real tough call.

Two 1971 Munsons, One Plate - either fits nicely into anyone's complete set, but would one of them grade high enough to make the $50 to PSA a good move?

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Edited to add:

Creasius Erving...

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Feel free to chime in, please.

Pointless and not well thought opinion - grade the Hank, Dr. J and Bench because those are my three favorite cards from the group

Aaron is around $400 (4....maybe a '5' on a good day)

Erving is around $500 (3)

Bench is around $300 (5)...I know...I'm harsh on these.

Even if the Munson's grade 6's, they are only around $300 cards...

They are all GREAT cards.....are they $50 grading fee great????

That's for you to decide.......if I didn't have much in it, I would grade the Erving......basketball is hot.

Grade the Munsons cuz 71 Topps look horrible in SGC holders.

They won't be higher than 6's.....yes grade them....but not at $50 per.

One final contestant (the very top is actually a shadow, not the black of the card)...

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1971 Rose in a 6.5 is around $150. I wouldn't send that one. Sounds like you are in the same boat as me Darren.

literally, only 1 person has included paperwork thus far.......geez......

Everybody paid up but one.

If you promise to reduce my costs for the next group submission, I will happily build you a gallows.

The only way there will be another group submission is if PSA drops below $10 again. Like Glenn Frey said....I guess that will be when hell freezes over.

Going out today via registered mail.

PSA has received the cards. Not logged in yet.

Thanks for the update, Bobby. Do you think this $50 submission group will pop before the Swingin Sixties group?

Logged in today...Research and ID.

Hmmmm.....both should be close...lol...I hear these have been averaging around a month and a half.

We moved to assembly

Thanks for the update, Bobby. Assembly is the next step after grading, correct?

So, the $50.00 submission that we sent to PSA just two months ago has already made it through grading and onto assembly, while the Swinin' Sixties submission, which we sent to PSA well over a year ago, is still stuck in grading?

That's ridiculous. PSA needs to devote more resources to the backlog.

Stay tuned.

OK!!! This is the link!! If you WANT TO BE SURPRISED, DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK!!! PS - PSA DOES NOT charge for the minimum size card, so I will be owing someone a refund.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...x4M/edit#gid=0


PANDORA'S BOX!! Do not click the link unless you want to see your grades!!!

We got a tracking number. Shant be long.

A gluten free diet may help.:eek:

It worked for me.

I am no longer a glutton for TPG punishment.;)

Ugh...
 

What’s wrong with this pic? (Aside from the fact that it posts sideways)

looks like JollyElms been at his Photoshop shenanigans again.

Sonny!!!! And that went through not one but TWO quality checks!!! Is that worth more as an obvious PSA screwup!?!?!?!?!?!

Sold as a pair with consecutive numbers, you might have something there.

I have paid more for cards like those. Never seen a pair like that before.

I know I sold a mislabeled Pete Rose card for more than I should have. They are both American Beauties which is rare enough. They both appear undergraded. And they are obviously mislabeled. Would ya'll try to correct that or keep it mislabeled on purpose?

The old chicken or the egg causality question must be examined...

Do these labels (wrong names aside) reflect the grade number of the card actually inside of the holder...or do they each reflect the grade of the correct card (that is sitting in the wrong holder with a different number)?

Depending on the answer to this question, there could be all sorts of problems 'correcting' the error.

Sonny has them in hand...he would be best to answer the question....I thought all his were undergraded......we spoke about that briefly.

I would leave as is because I collect silly stuff like that. I have one just like those that has the wrong card listed on the flip. I also have a 1989 Fleer Bill Ripken graded as a super rare whiteout when it is really the cheapest Black Box version.

I cracked the McGinnity out of an old SGC 2 slab. The Konetchy was purchased raw. I honestly figured 2 or better on both.

At this point I'm convinced that PSA doesn't check anything. With the backlog they have it would take too much time to look at every card. If there is a mistake they can fix it after the submitter finds it. I have a 20 card economy order that was entered on March 29th that just went into QA Check 2. They can't even get the $50 economy submissions back on time. Maybe I'll get my two bulk orders from early 2021 back sometime this year.

a gorgeous 4

Time for some glasses old timer.