How Will World War III Affect Card Values?
 

Will WW3 affect the hobby, if it escalates into that?

I don't think Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, or Iraq/Aghanistan affected things. WW1 and WW2 most certainly did.

Thoughts?

Cards will be more expensive .nothing will happen .

I'm imaging a Limited 1/100 Zombie refractor edition, with game? used scraps would be quite popular with the post apocalyptic kids...
Stats on Zombie kills, saves, etc...
WAR would take on a new meaning entirely.

We will all be trading our cards for toilet paper.

Pretty sure that PSA holders will protect against nuclear fallout so we should all be okay.

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Not funny.

At baseball card school they're already practicing the new 'duck and cover,' where you grab your slabs and shoeboxes and find shelter under a wooden desk.

Seriously?
 

I hope this is a joke, because this post is beyond silly. I think if there was a world war cards should be the last thing on your mind. Post something more hobby related I get enough politics/conflicts from other media outlets.

OP here...it was meant to be funny. Not trying to get anyone upset. After 26 years in the Navy, I guess I have a warped sense of humor.

One wheelbarrow full of T206s = one loaf of bread

Well, for one thing, it's going to be alot more expensive to drive or fly to card shows.

It depends who wins.

The proliferation of nukes would suggest most of us will be dead, causing prices to plummet as so many collections come to market at the same time.

All the people who told me spending thousands of dollars to build my card bunker was stupid will be proven wrong.

PWCC Vault will save us all in the end.

If that's the case, how many rolls for a Wagner? My wife has been stockpiling plus we could throw in some ammo to sweeten the deal. Let me know!

Not sure but I won't accept anything less than 3 ply :)

My Ty Cobb red portrait for your can opener, straight up

The only set to survive will be 1991 Donruss.

So does that mean that "Pre-War" will now indicate Pre 2023?

Well, if someone had asked me in 2019 what effect a global pandemic that killed millions around the world would have on the card market, I definitely would not have answered that it would cause the price of everything to explode like it has. So I think its anyone’s guess.

All trading cards will be cinders, along with us.

Now that’s funny!

I will be in my bunker looking at Green Cobb prices continuing to go up and banging my head against the wall. :D

+1

This made me laugh.

Wow, I was way wrong on that one too.

I think we were all wrong on that.

Now we just need to re-adjust how and what we collect based on these new prices, the new demand, and in some ways new items coming to the market that has not been seen in years (from long time collectors that are taking a profit on their collections)

We have always said that a piece of cardboard has the intrinsic value of the heat it puts off if it's burnt. So that is where we are if all things go to hell in a handbag. And therefore larger cards are intrinsically worth more, all ingredients being equal.

I bet this one would put off some heat.

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I don't think it will impact them directly, as there aren't very many Russians and Ukrainians who collect prewar. I could see some other event impacting prices, but I've been saying for a couple of years now that the market is due for a correction. Eventually I'll be right!:D

Cards would become tinder and all the important items will be memorabilia based. Investment advantage to anything that is both aesthetically attractive and also functional.

You should be able to drink soup out of your baubles, and also enjoy a nice herbal tea...or whiskey, whilst awaiting the end of the world.

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The only survivors will be cockroaches, Cher and TPGers.

Tom Lehrer: "So Long Mom" (1965)

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This year we've been celebrating the hundredth anniversary of the civil war and the fiftieth anniversary of the beginning of world war I and the twentieth anniversary of the end of World War II. All in all, it's been a good year for the war buffs and a number of LPs and television specials have come out capitalizing on all this "nostalgia" with particular emphasis on the songs of various wars. I feel that if any songs are going to come out of World War III, we'd better start writing them now. I have one here. you might call it a bit of pre-nostalgia. this is the song that the boys sang as they went bravely off to World War III:

So long, mom,
I'm off to drop the bomb,
So don't wait up for me.
But while you swelter
Down there in your shelter,
You can see me
On your tv.

While we're attacking frontally,
Watch Brinkly and Huntley,
Describing contrapuntally
The cities we have lost.
No need for you to miss a minute
Of the agonizing holocaust. (yeah!)

Little johnny jones he was a US pilot,
And no shrinking violet was he.
He was mighty proud when World War III was declared,
He wasn't scared,
No siree!

And this is what he said on
His way to Armageddon:

So long, mom,
I'm off to drop the bomb,
So don't wait up for me.
But though I may roam,
I'll come back to my home,
Although it may be
A pile of debris.

Remember, mommy,
I'm off to get a commie,
So send me a salami,
And try to smile somehow.
I'll look for you when the war is over,
An hour and a half from now!

And another, "We All Will Go Together When We Go":



No more ashes, no more sackcloth
And an armband made of black cloth
Will some day nevermore adorn a sleeve
For if the bomb that drops on you
Gets your friends and neighbors too
There'll be nobody left behind to grieve

And we will all go together when we go
What a comforting fact that is to know
Universal bereavement -
An inspiring achievement!
Yes, we all will go together when we go

We will all go together when we go
All suffused with an incandescent glow
No one will have the endurance
To collect on his insurance
Lloyd's of London will be loaded when they go

Oh, we will all fry together when we fry
We'll be French-fried potatoes by-and-by
There will be no more misery
When the world is our rotisserie
Yes, we all will fry together when we fry

Down by the old maelstrom
There'll be a storm before the calm

And we will all bake together when we bake
There'll be nobody present at the wake
With complete participation
In that grand incineration
Nearly three billion hunks of well-done steak

Oh, we will all char together when we char
And let there be no moaning of the bar
Just sing out a Te Deum
When you see that ICBM
And the party will be come-as-you-are

Oh, we will all burn together when we burn
There'll be no need to stand and wait your turn
When it's time for the fallout
And Saint Peter calls us all out
We'll just drop our agendas and adjourn
You will all go directly to your respective Valhallas
Go directly, do not pass 'GO', do not collect two hundred dollars

And we will all go together when we go
Every Hottentot and every Eskimo
When the air becomes uraneous
We will all go simultaneous
Yes, we all will go together
When we all go together
Yes, we all will go together when we go

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Chase cards will have pieces of shrapnel inserted on them...

Brilliant!

Here's another one of my favorites.... and just as pertinent today as it was in 1965. Lehrer was (and is) a true underrated genius....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRLON3ddZIw&t=25s

Cards will have to go to paper drives, I'll be setting up a centralized drop off here so you can send me all your cards and I'll make sure they get where they need to go.




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The rookie autographed two-color patch card of Vladimir Putin has already gone up 20X!

Now, after this morning's invasion by Russia of independent and democratically elected Ukraine, I hope many will see that card collecting is just a nice hobby. The monetization and commercialization has seriously dented the spirit of the hobby and allowed obscene fraudsters to operate freely. I speak as someone whose first pack purchase was a '51 Bowman.

"The monetization and commercialization has seriously dented the spirit of the hobby and allowed obscene fraudsters to operate freely."

But quintessentially American: find something fun and interesting, commercialize and monetize it, screw it up.

+1 and well said

Right on. And the hobby problems themselves are all pretty trivial. Not feeling too hopeful at the moment, but still hoping Russia withdraws soon without further bloodshed.

Question: If Russia was running an auction and had a chase card from a prewar set most of us needed... :D

*WWIV

Not sure how 40 years of war in the Middle East involving many, MANY countries (including the same countries tying themselves up in this Ukrainian conflict) is not considered WWIII.

I'd rather have tangible assets than the USD. Cards, silver, gold, land, etc.

Thoughts and prayers with the innocent people of Ukraine; their government may be a different story.

My thoughts and prayers are with the Ukrainians too, though 'Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition' might be more in line with their needs.

Your sense of humor is right where it should be. I appreciate the thought provoking threads. Our society has gone way too soft. Can’t even have a discussion without someone taking the overly sensitive approach.

Thanks Matt

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Why??....what's going on??...Jerry

Maybe, Adam, but only if it's the 1925 Holland Creameries card of Roger Peckinpaugh. :D

Oh, never mind...

Agreed. Enough apologizing going on already.

By the way, you T206 collectors better hope you can trade those things for TP because you certainly would not want to try to use them as TP. He with the most most M114's and M101-1s (and -2s) wins!

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Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown,
And things seem hard or tough,
And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft,
And you feel that you've had quite eno-o-o-o-o-ough,

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at 900 miles an hour.
It's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned,
The sun that is the source of all our power.

Now the sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day,
In the outer spiral arm, at 40, 000 miles an hour,
Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way.

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars;
It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side;
It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick,
But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide.

We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point,
We go 'round every two hundred million years;
And our galaxy itself is one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.

Our universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
In all of the directions it can whiz;
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is.

So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!

T206s will plummet in price while 1967 Topps Pinups will increase greatly because of the much greater wiping surface.:D

This thread has degenerated into a really pissy-crappy one...

1948 Topps Magic Photos cards and 1930 Baguer Chocolate cards will become virtually worthless.

Brian

During WWII the Hobby skyrocketed.

So far, the only thing to turn in to toilet paper has been the ruble. The exchange rate is currently around 105 rubles per dollar. By comparison, one dogecoin is currently worth about 12.3 cents, or a little over eight per dollar.

Hahaha!!!

I am in agreement with this. Too politically correct nowadays. Can't say anything without hurting someone's feelings (as I walk a tightrope LOL)
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My experience is that the people most butt-hurt generally are the ones whining about other people being too sensitive. I wouldn't know either way, as I am about as sensitive to the feelings of others as a rock, though I do hate stupid, rude, prejudiced and/or ignorant people. They can all bite me.

I would buy it for cheap and turn a profit on it. I would be in no way turning my back on my country by supporting them and their war effort with my coin. I mean we still buy 600k barrels of oil a day, that we DO NOT need, so they can continue bombarding innocent civilians and overturning a freely elected government.

You are entitled to you opinion. IF you think we aren't too overly PC nowadays then so be it. I just know how I feel and it chaps my arse. And I will leave it at that because otherwise I am going to hurt someone's feelings :)... Again, if you don't think so, no problem. We can agree to disagree and still be friends. ....

Back to topic, I don't see the current geopolitical issues hurting card values. However, if it escalates to other countries, imo, that has some potential to change.
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If we win, card values stay or increase. If we lose, card values implode but we all have much bigger fish to fry. Lets win. Fuck Putin

Ryan Hotchkiss

Nah, I don't find him the least bit appealing. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

New movie plot
 

The US sends an elite force of WNBA players to rescue Brittney Griner from the evil clutches of Vladimir Putin...and liberates Ukraine in the process...Jerry

Sue Bird is rather accurate from long range.

I could see the movie version now with Harrison Ford as her coach in it. At the end he confronts Putin: (.......in his gravel-ly voice)....."Get yer hands off my point guard Poo ton"

The Eastern world, it is explodin'
Violence flarin', bullets loadin' . . .

But you tell me over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Barry McGuire 1965

You forgot Twinkies! :)

Beckett's oversized slabs too; they can be used as impromptu fallout shelter roofing.

If it becomes nuclear, the price of cremation will go way down!

You will know the end is nigh when your doorbell rings, and Vladimir Putin appears on your stoupe with an armed personal guard and demands you hand over your "base-bol cards". :(