T206 HOF portrait's in Sterling Auctions last night
 

Happy Holidays everyone. I was hoping to snag a couple of these last night, but umm, wow!!

For those you say SGC (prewar) cards do not garner PSA prices, that wasn't the case here.

Sgc 4.5 - T206 Tinker portrait - $3,840
Sgc 4.5 - T206 Lajoie portrait - $3,360
Sgc 5 - T206 Evers portrait - $2,880
Sgc 4.5 - T206 Walsh portrait - $2,400
Sgc 5 - T206 Joss portrait - $1,800
Sgc 4.5 - T206 Jennings portrait - $1,560

Nice auction Lee. Congrats to all winners!

Whoa!

Wow, really strong prices. T206 HOF Portraits are very hot...and imagine if those were rare backs.

Agree! I quickly lost hope on the higher grades. I came just short on the SGC20 Clarke. I have one already in poor so it was a slight upgrade. But with the juice, I felt $190 was too much. It was a good auction tho!

Bill

Lee might get my consignments when it is time for me to vamoose.

Actually, that is a welcome thing to see.

A million years ago (pre-grading) when I was amassing T206s most of what I saw were f-g-vg with a smattering of better, but none of the razor sharp 6-7-8 today seems to have. IMO the 4-5 range is about the realistic peak for T206 cards that aren't likely to have been messed with, so those are very nice cards and are getting the respect they deserve.

One thing I could never figure is the relative lack of respect for Lajoie and Eddie Collins. Top-tier HOFers who haven't really commanded the respect commensurate with their skills. Collins is 10th and Lajoie 18th in career WAR; 2nd and 3rd among 2B behind (barely, for Collins) Hornsby. But valued like Joe Tinker? Just makes no sense to me...

Prices seem strong across the board at many of the auctions right now. Considering that, I have a follow up question for you guys. Which auction house would you trust to get the most for your T206 cards? This doesn't necessarily mean the auction house that you like to buy from. Would you offer them up on this site first? I'm not looking to sell right now, but am curious to see what you all think....Thanks!

REA in my opinion. Total class operation, great communication, probably the best catalog, quick payout (just received mine after only 2.5 weeks following auction end), large audience of potential buyers, etc.

Thanks for the response. From a buying perspective, I have found that REA is very good to deal with.

Couldn’t agree more. Collins takes a hit for the sham Jackie tryout I think. Lajoie though I don’t see any downside. Plus he’s got great looking cards and a cool name. What’s not to love?

Well shit. I guess I did win the Clarke! I’m on vacation and didn’t pay close enough attention to the final. Well, I’m happy to snag it.

Bill

A very rough SGC 1 Lajoie portrait went for $420, which is strong for that grade.

Another thing that is interesting is the results on the trimmed T206s. The red portrait Cobb, Young portrait and Johnson portrait. All clearly trimmed, all SGC A:

Cobb: $3240
Young: $1,560
Johnson: $1,560

I wondered what altered cards might sell for properly disclosed. With the insane prices of (allegedly) unaltered cards, maybe this is a way to collect on a budget. Would you prefer an A like one of these or a 1-1.5?

Wow strong prices

Good to see

Yes REA, I got great prices for my 4 Cobb’s awhile back.

REA, LOTG and Sterling are all top-notch in my book. I would not hesitate to consign a T206 collection to any of them. FWIW, I think Sterling offers the best opportunity for non-superstar consignments. Lee has mastered selling graded singles.

I think it would depends what exactly you are selling. A group of 50 poor-fair ungraded commons probably would do better using someone like Scott @ Collector's Connection, but a PSA 7 Cobb would probably do better in REA (not that Scott wouldn't work his butt off advertising a card of that magnitude). Of course offering here you have control over the final prices (for good or bad), but that also means you putting in the effort to list, scan, ship, answer questions, etc.

C'mon fellas, every thread needs a card. Show those T206 portraits.

Here are a few of mine. Post em' if you got em'!

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...isty-mathewson https://www.collectorfocus.com/image.../t206-ed-walsh

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...6-johnny-evers https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...206-nap-lajoie

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image.../t206-cy-young https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...mordecai-brown

Those are beauties Tony!


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https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=25640

Very very nice Dean.......

Great cards Dean and Tony!

Strong prices! HOFs have been doing so well the last few years

Jimmy

Great cards Dean & Tony.

Thanks Tony!!

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Thanks all. Appreciate the kind words.

I remember those well Joe. Great cards. I’m happy that they’re in a good home.

Happy Holidays!

+1. I have very successfully consigned to each of these 3 auction houses. A few days ago, I received a payment check for my consignments in REA's December 5th auction.

Don't you just love it when people start posting cool pics of nice cards. I bet our wives probably see our faces when we're looking at the computer screen and immediately begin to think we're looking at porn.

Pavlov was about a century to early for his studies. Can you imagine the amount of slobber he could have drained from the readers of this forum.

Nice pics, keep'em coming.

They look so much better raw.

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T206 HOF Portraits...

Tinker, Evers, Chance

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If the cards in the original post were in PSA holders they would have brought more, imo....

a few

Dean, that Cobb orange background should be housed in Ft. Knox for safekeeping; it is so difficult and rare to find one. Great snag. Definitely a keeper. I was bidding against you for it but it just got too expensive. Hope your bank manager isn't mad at you.

Beautiful cards
 

Great thread drawing particular attention to the T206 portraits. They are gorgeous!

They are. I stopped collecting the non-portraits unless the HOFer has no portrait (e.g, Speaker)

https://www.sterlingsportsauctions.c...66/66491a.jpegI won the SGC A Cobb and you nailed it Adam - I think altered cards properly identified as authentic and not given numeric grades are great looking cards for the price. I know a lot of people don't like altered cards, but for me this is a much better looking card at $3240 than a 1 for just as much (or more)

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Fun thread, great eye candy...Here's a few more...

This is a fun thread. Seeing everyones portraits laid out is pretty cool.

Chris B, I 100% agree. Nice Red Cobb addition...

A few more I've not yet seen listed.

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...-bobby-wallace https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...6-jack-chesbro

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...-jimmy-collins https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...206-vic-willis

Thanks Tony - you have some amazing portraits!

A couple fuller-bordered portraits of mine

Fun thread, here's a few.
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The SMR shows a T206 Tinker portrait PSA5 valued at $1k. They have a lot of catching up if you follow it.

These portraits are incredible guys. I have some catching up to do.

"The SMR shows a T206 Tinker portrait PSA5 valued at $1k. They have a lot of catching up if you follow it."


John, agreed...SMR hasn't been accurate since 1998; always behind, especially in recent years, unfortunately.

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Fortunately that wasn't me. I was lucky enough to pick mine up before the bank manager needed to get involved. LOL. I agree though, difficult and rare.

Great stuff guys. So tough to beat a nice looking T206 portrait.

Sarno, those Hindu's are off the charts. Sure wish I had grabbed a Hindu earlier.

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Matty & a Tyfecta......
 

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Still working on my portrait game but did pick up a few nice ones. Here's one of them.

Troy, that's a blazer!

Dean, thank you for the kind words...I so admire your Matty Dark Cap run; it's special.

The T206 HOF Portraits have always been my favorite sub-set and you guys are killing it with sharing your collections! Fantastic looking cards!

A few of my favorites.

Bill

I'm sure all you collectors are very proud of your Hall of Famer t206 cards. It's true that Lee's auction did produce high prices on the SGC 45's that did get much higher prices. However if you really believe and I'm speaking from experience, that these cards are selling at PSA prices, your dreaming. The PSA registry is much higher than the SGC registry on t206 cards because they have been around a lot longer. The supply and demand leans much more in purchasing t206 cards that are PSA graded. Since these SGC portraits sold for such high prices, the PSA portraits are selling at higher prices. I'm sure you can also see it in other auction houses as well. As a dealer, I'm happy for the SGC collectors, but the PSA collectors should even be happier.

Please post the actual sales data for Joss, Evers, Walsh, Jennings, Tinker and Lajoie portraits in 4-4.5-5 to support your assertion that "the PSA portraits are selling at higher prices" than the SGC cards that were just sold.

You have to agree Nap looks good in a SGC holder. I wish all my cards were in SGC slabs. SGC built their name grading T206 cards.I Don’t understand why a registry guy would care about mid grade Common back T206 cards.But I don’t follow the registry trends.
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For some people, collecting isn't about the cards; they've turned it into a competitive thing.

The monetary value between Psa and Sgc prewar cards (including T206’s) has narrowed considerably over the past few years and deservedly so.

Prewar collectors are now more so than ever valuing the card based on its condition and eye appeal no matter who’s slab it resides in (that being Psa or Sgc)

It’s about time!!

The best portrait ever...

Hard to argue with that Jay.

Gorgeous run……

I just threw up in my mouth a little (haha!!). Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'd take either Cobb portrait over that one. Just don't love the yellow of the port.

Mine don’t quite matchup in condition but here they are. My collection is pretty much Cleveland players

The grade is just a number. Those look terrific.

Great port's everyone, wanted to share some of mine

Incredible cards Jeff. Thanks for sharing.

Wow Jeff…mic drop. Just stunning cards. Thanks for sharing!

Bill

Jeff, fantastic!

Damn Jeff, you just stole the show. Great cards (and happy new year!)

Only a 2 on the Plank???

Seriously fantastic cards, I have never seen a t206 so nice

Unbelievable Jeff!! I could only dream of having a group of cards like that.....wow.

Thanks for sharing Jay. Very impressive.

A few more portraits from my main set. I don't think any of these scans do the cards justice but among my favorite portraits!

I love the Donovan. He isn't a HOFer, but that color is so unique in the set, it just pops.

Here are a few I like because they were found in an envelope postmarked 1911 with a bunch of other EPDG cards that have not see the light of day in 100 years.

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Here are my Cobb’s:

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Agreed! In hand that color is just incredible!!

Bumping this thread due to reviewing the REA results from their auction which ended last night. Lots of great Psa and Sgc graded T206's. Sgc pre war graded hall of famers continue to hold their own -vs- Psa. Here are a few which stood out!

Sgc 6 T206 Chance yellow portrait - $2,760.00
Sgc 4 T206 Speaker - $2,520.00
Sgc 5 T206 Chance red portrait - $2,160.00
Sgc 4 T206 Waddell throwing - $1,740.00

You're absolutely right Tony. It was a great auction and I was chasing several but they got too high for me. I ended up winning one (which I over-paid for, but who hasn't!). Very happy to add this one to my collection.

HOF Portraits are definitely not slowing down (SCG or PSA).

Love the front of this one...not so much the back :)

Bill

as many of you know, I am a portrait-only collector for the T206 set, and this thread does a great job of illustrating why! Even the non-HOF portraits in the set look beautiful. The thing that attracts me to the portraits is the brilliance and variation of the background color. The Ty Cobb is the most famous example, with the orangeish background getting a lot of love. But you can see it in noticeable ways on a lot of the portraits, where the blue isnt as dark on some of the cards, for example. It is especially noticeable (and my favorite part of my collection) when viewing the fronts side by side in a binder.

First of all to the OPs point, personally, I think if the cards in SGC holders were in PSA holders they would have brought more...but who knows. I feel people in these grade ranges are buying the card and not the holder but, PSA has much better marketing and management, and the registry, so cards in their holders generally bring more. It's not really a debate from what I have seen.

As for this post, that Bressy reminds me of mine but with opposite big border. Love this miscut...
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Agree with you in general Leon that PSA gets a premium all else being equal in registry sets. That said, there have recently been a lot more examples like last night from REA where a SGC 4 Waddell throwing went for much more ($1,740) than a PSA 4 Waddell throwing ($1,050), and deservedly so.

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=96820
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=96816

Especially in popular sets, color/registration/centering increasingly means more than the grader and the premium for eye appeal keeps on growing.