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ullmandds 12-05-2021 07:47 PM

REA results
 
Shit's getting real! We're in extended bidding...I'm seeing all kinds of record prices...green cobbs, exhibit ruths...dietsch cobb fielding...good luck peoples!

mrreality68 12-05-2021 08:29 PM

Yea good luck to all.

Great stuff in this auction

Sadly I am sitting out and just a bystander

BobbyStrawberry 12-05-2021 08:36 PM

Some awesome stuff in this one!

Casey2296 12-05-2021 08:58 PM

New money has found pre war.

Rhotchkiss 12-05-2021 09:29 PM

Nice to see the Dietsche Cobb Fielding finally getting the love it deserves (I am not outing the auction considering its at a record high)!

puckpaul 12-05-2021 09:52 PM

Even the M101-1 Wagner getting its due. Near $40k as of now. And a 15 CJ Jackson in a 3 at $47k. Not too surprising but the 15 has greatly lagged the 14’s for a while (with reason).

doug.goodman 12-05-2021 10:16 PM

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Very happy to have won this 1949 Dodgers picture pack uncut sheet

babraham 12-05-2021 10:49 PM

Was bidding on many lots, but most got too high for me. Some strong prices for sure!
I picked up a couple T206 Cobb's though, so I'm happy! :)

chadeast 12-05-2021 11:06 PM

The Boston Store Jackson has been fun to watch, very much still in play, it has gone from 22k to 34k in the hour since the auction went to lot-by-lot closing. It's one of the last 20 or so lots still open.

EDIT: and now $35k. Two motivated buyers :)

EDIT 2: I just noticed that the 1915 Boston Red Sox Real-Photo Postcard with Ruth has gone from $12k to $39k in that same time frame!

npa589 12-05-2021 11:09 PM

I know - right? Those T206 lots sold for collector prices. The T202 lot exploded as well late in extended bidding...

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2171688)
New money has found pre war.


Pack The Ripper 12-06-2021 03:20 AM

Maybe someone can help me here.

I went to register to bid at REA and it requires two industry references. I don't know anyone in the industry. I'm just a lone wolf out here building my own collection because I enjoy this hobby. Am I just out of luck?

Aquarian Sports Cards 12-06-2021 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pack The Ripper (Post 2171732)
Maybe someone can help me here.

I went to register to bid at REA and it requires two industry references. I don't know anyone in the industry. I'm just a lone wolf out here building my own collection because I enjoy this hobby. Am I just out of luck?

Industry references can be any auction you've bought from, or Net54, nationally known dealer or well-known collector you've done business with. Even a prominent facebook group is better than nothing

sportscardpete 12-06-2021 04:06 AM

Great night for vintage. Cobbs were on fire - even the non rookies like the azora. The m101 Wagner was a thing of beauty.

Carter08 12-06-2021 04:46 AM

The auction was so strong that some of the prices seem like pure outliers. A 48 leaf Jackie psa 2 sold for over 22k. A very nice 2 but still that’s basically double where that’s been going. I don’t think that would happen anywhere else.

mrreality68 12-06-2021 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by chadeast (Post 2171719)
The Boston Store Jackson has been fun to watch, very much still in play, it has gone from 22k to 34k in the hour since the auction went to lot-by-lot closing. It's one of the last 20 or so lots still open.

EDIT: and now $35k. Two motivated buyers :)

EDIT 2: I just noticed that the 1915 Boston Red Sox Real-Photo Postcard with Ruth has gone from $12k to $39k in that same time frame!

Agreed strong prices and amazed the quick spike on many items that seemed to be trending low and then jumped dramatically

Pack The Ripper 12-06-2021 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2171735)
Industry references can be any auction you've bought from, or Net54, nationally known dealer or well-known collector you've done business with. Even a prominent facebook group is better than nothing

Thank you.

Bicem 12-06-2021 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chadeast (Post 2171719)

EDIT 2: I just noticed that the 1915 Boston Red Sox Real-Photo Postcard with Ruth has gone from $12k to $39k in that same time frame!

Very strong price, I'd be very curious to see how SGC came up with the 1915 date (considering they misidentified half the players). 1915-17 would have been more appropriate.

mrreality68 12-06-2021 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 2171771)
Very strong price, I'd be very curious to see how SGC came up with the 1915 date (considering they misidentified half the players). 1915-17 would have been more appropriate.

Agreed but still a great card would love to have had it in my collection. But since I was a spectator this go around there was never a chance. :D

investinrookies 12-06-2021 06:49 AM

Won the 1927 E210 Ruth. Happy to get another nice rare Ruth in my collection.


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markf31 12-06-2021 06:51 AM

I was lucky enough to grab one minor lot at a price I was happy with, but like most of the comments so far in this thread menation, the prices were strong last night.

I posted an ad in the BST as well, but if anyone on the forum here won lot 255 1910 T210 Old Mill Tobacco "Series 3" Texas League Collection (13), I am interested in three of the cards from that lot. PM me if you would like to discuss.

Rhotchkiss 12-06-2021 06:58 AM

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That 1915-17 Ruth PC was awesome (if you can get over the terrible cut border, which I could not). The price on that, as well as the 1922 Ruth PC and Ruth Exhibits, were, I think, super strong. Indeed, almost everything I was watching finished ahead of how I had it valued- but that seems to be par for the course nowadays.

That said, I was very content with the prices I got these for (I know, pot calling the kettle black to knock the cut on the Ruth PC but then happy to get this beater Morehouse Thorpe). They go well with the blank back Thorpe I picked up in Memory Lane.

The (perhaps only) steal of the auction was the t206 Tinker Bat Off, Piedmont factory 42. It is an impossible combo. There are only 3 known, this one being new to me, and by far the highest grades. An A with no borders sold at auction for almost the same thing over a year ago. Congrats Chris, great acquisition.

I thought this was a great auction and I was very happy to see REA (once again) auctioning a bunch of rare, old stuff.

ccre 12-06-2021 07:02 AM

Can anyone explain this one to me??? $8,400 for this Waddell with a normal Old Mill back. That seems insane to me unless I'm missing something.
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=93493

markf31 12-06-2021 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ccre (Post 2171784)
Can anyone explain this one to me??? $8,400 for this Waddell with a normal Old Mill back. That seems insane to me unless I'm missing something.
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=93493

I dont understand it either. A PSA 3 example sold in Memory Lane in September with a hammer of $9,532.80

Exhibitman 12-06-2021 07:28 AM

I think Phil hit it on the nose: new money, or maybe profits on new stuff that old money sold. I dunno, but those prices were amazing. A PSA 2 T206 Johnson portrait for $3k! That PC Back Ruth at $30K--holy cow.

I was blown away on every lot before OT. My OT bids were topped almost instantly. I was getting bid confirms, high bidder notices, and outbid notices in the same flurries of emails. I did manage to get one card, not a bargain but a good long term pickup that melds my two interests perfectly:

https://createauctioncdn.azureedge.n...0_1_214269.jpg

Rhotchkiss 12-06-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ccre (Post 2171784)
Can anyone explain this one to me??? $8,400 for this Waddell with a normal Old Mill back. That seems insane to me unless I'm missing something.
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=93493

Old Mills are odd. In general, they are not a particularly rare back -- on par with Sovereign and Polar, more rare than Piedmont and Sweet Caporal, but much more common than EPDG, Tolstoi, American Beauty. That said, some players are very difficult to find in Old Mill backs (see Magee and Walter Johnson portrait). Waddell portrait is on the tougher side. So, this card appeals to anyone who wants a rarer-back Waddell or anyone collecting an old mill back set. You will see Old Mills go for seemingly crazy prices sometimes and its almost always a player with few old mills examples.

Congrats Adam - that is a perfect card for you: Boxing + Ruth.

Wanaselja 12-06-2021 07:49 AM

I was lucky enough to win this Sovereign Waddell Port for what I thought was a pretty fair price. Was quite surprised I didn’t wake up to an outbid notice text.

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=93492

mrreality68 12-06-2021 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2171781)
That 1915-17 Ruth PC was awesome (if you can get over the terrible cut border, which I could not). The price on that, as well as the 1922 Ruth PC and Ruth Exhibits, were, I think, super strong. Indeed, almost everything I was watching finished ahead of how I had it valued- but that seems to be par for the course nowadays.

That said, I was very content with the prices I got these for (I know, pot calling the kettle black to knock the cut on the Ruth PC but then happy to get this beater Morehouse Thorpe). They go well with the blank back Thorpe I picked up in Memory Lane.

The (perhaps only) steal of the auction was the t206 Tinker Bat Off, Piedmont factory 42. It is an impossible combo. There are only 3 known, this one being new to me, and by far the highest grades. An A with no borders sold at auction for almost the same thing over a year ago. Congrats Chris, great acquisition.

I thought this was a great auction and I was very happy to see REA (once again) auctioning a bunch of rare, old stuff.

All the prices were really strong

Congrats on the pickups Ryan
And Phil bother great pickup

Congrats to all

MuncieNolePAZ 12-06-2021 08:08 AM

I agree with Phil about some new money involved. Certainly some crazy prices last night. Most of the cards I was looking at were way above what I was comfortable bidding prior to extended bidding. I was able to pick up a 1914 CJ Cobb finally (SGC A). Not as nice as the PSA 1 on there but thought it was a fair price. Definitely was a beneficiary of there being multiple CJ Cobb copies.

Chad

MVSNYC 12-06-2021 08:14 AM

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Congrats guys (Ryan, love the Thorpes!).

I was happy to win the Lajoie Hindu; goes great with my other HOF Hindus.

Bicem 12-06-2021 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2171772)
Agreed but still a great card would love to have had it in my collection. But since I was a spectator this go around there was never a chance. :D


Me too but still misleading.

parkerj33 12-06-2021 08:31 AM

Hi folks, I did not bid on REA, but i spent a bunch on the Heritage auction a couple weeks ago....I can't speak for the general market, but personally I have transferred a lot of new product profits into vintage, primarily t206/t205. and will continue to do so. I would have liked to have landed a few of the t206 lots, but was asleep at the wheel, so to speak.

atx840 12-06-2021 08:40 AM

Thank you Ryan ;)

Great cards everyone, some very strong prices.

Mike, fantastic Hindus, congrats!

iwantitiwinit 12-06-2021 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 2171815)
Congrats guys (Ryan, love the Thorpes!).

I was happy to win the Lajoie Hindu; goes great with my other HOF Hindus.

I was in on that LaJoie Hindu also, was thinking about going one increment higher but held back. Great card kinda wished I had stepped up. Congrats.

parkplace33 12-06-2021 08:52 AM

I am simply blown away by the prices.

glchen 12-06-2021 09:19 AM

The price on the blank backed 1926-29 Ruth Exhibits was insane. I thought the price was already crazy when it was $14K before extended bidding, and then the price doubled! I get that blanked backed are much tougher than the postcard-backed and this was the best looking one out there, but $30K, really? I really hope that this is not the new normal, and just an outlier because the card was blank backed. Otherwise, it'll be a really hard to pick up more of these cards.

I was the 1st or 2nd underbidder on the c1915 and 1922 Ruth cards. I tried hard, but obviously someone wanted it more. Both of those cards only have a known pop of 1 or 2 with a unique Ruth image, I believe, so I understand the price there better (obviously).

brianclat11 12-06-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanaselja (Post 2171805)
I was lucky enough to win this Sovereign Waddell Port for what I thought was a pretty fair price. Was quite surprised I didn’t wake up to an outbid notice text.

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=93492

Nice get!!! I bid on this one but fell asleep.

Wanaselja 12-06-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by brianclat11 (Post 2171852)
Nice get!!! I bid on this one but fell asleep.

Thanks Brian! I threw a little extra on it and then went to bed myself. Was pleasantly surprised when I woke up today.

Exhibitman 12-06-2021 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by glchen (Post 2171841)
The price on the blank backed 1926-29 Ruth Exhibits was insane. I thought the price was already crazy when it was $14K before extended bidding, and then the price doubled! I get that blanked backed are much tougher than the postcard-backed and this was the best looking one out there, but $30K, really? I really hope that this is not the new normal, and just an outlier because the card was blank backed. Otherwise, it'll be a really hard to pick up more of these cards.

That's not even the highest graded example of a batting Ruth (SGC shows a 6 in its pop report).

I don't think anyone except the real nuts (like me) care about the backs on these cards. It was a crazy result but maybe not that crazy when beater 1933G Ruth cards are over $5K with a much larger pop. The more interesting numbers to me show strength across the Exhibit realm:

--1921 Walter Johnson 4.5 $1,680.00
--$12,600 for the PSA 2 (but great eye appeal) 1921 Ruth
--$6,600 for the PSA 3 1928 Ruth
--$3,270 for a group of 183 postwar Exhibit cards with Mantle, Paige and Robinson (2) and even those three were not in stellar condition: Mantle/first name outlined in white (Ex), Paige (marked on reverse, otherwise Ex), two J. Robinson (Vg-Ex+ and Vg).

The unopened was crazy. $11,400 for 19 cello packs and $1,500 for a cello with Mantle on top. I really wish I'd held onto the packs I busted 20 years ago...

LincolnVT 12-06-2021 11:11 AM

Rea
 
I thought it was interesting that the 1951 type 1 Mantle photo brought more money than a 1952 Topps Mantle in a PSA VG EX 4 holder. Pretty cool photo.

Michael Peich 12-06-2021 11:29 AM

Prices were breath-taking!

If anyone here won the T210-6 lot I am interested in acquiring some cards.

Many thanks,
Mike

Griffins 12-06-2021 11:46 AM

$168K for a '54 Topps pack blew me away. That was $3500 just a few years ago.

Epps 12-06-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Peich (Post 2171881)
Prices were breath-taking!

If anyone here won the T210-6 lot I am interested in acquiring some cards.

Many thanks,
Mike

Same here! I was the 2nd (or 3rd) underbidder, but am interested in one card in particular if you are breaking them up.

Natswin2019 12-06-2021 11:55 AM

I was glad to pick up 2 minor lots that I wanted for my collection, a lil more than I wanted to pay but it's REA and id been hunting for a while so didnt mind.

And as stated elsewhere, if anyone won the t210-2 lot id be interested in buying the 3 Richmond Colts cards off of you!

Touch'EmAll 12-06-2021 12:00 PM

This auction makes you wonder what will prices be when spring time rolls around and we are at the traditional height of craziness about April or so.

pawpawdiv9 12-06-2021 12:06 PM

Blown away- on something i particulary think maybe 2-3 people even collect.(that i know of)
1916-20 UNC Big Head COBB went for (6600)---extreme scarcity!!
Last Heritage auction--was very strong!!
Wajo fetch (2640BP) & Ruth got (9900BP)
and the set of 15/20 (w/Hornsby) went for (3840BP)

philo98 12-06-2021 12:08 PM

I ended up winning 3 different tickets focused on Pittsburgh. Prices were very strong for those as well. If prices continue like this through 2022, I will probably have to shift focus or slow down a bit. Tickets are approaching stratospheric levels. :)

jsfriedm 12-06-2021 12:31 PM

I was actually surprised by the prices of a few key cards that seemed pretty weak to me, in particular the 1933 Goudey Ruths - especially the two PSA 7s, and the 1951 Bowman Mantle rookies (it seems like the price ratio of Mantle to Mays these days is now below 2:1).

riggs336 12-06-2021 01:28 PM

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I picked up two non-sports sets for fair prices.
My big get was this M110 of Lajoie.

Exhibitman 12-06-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Griffins (Post 2171888)
$168K for a '54 Topps pack blew me away. That was $3500 just a few years ago.

Sure wish I hadn't opened mine. :D

cgjackson222 12-06-2021 02:04 PM

There were definitely some weird prices.

A '55 Topps Mays SGC 6 for $4,400????
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=94057

This is is almost double the highest (in March 2021) shown for a PSA 6 on the PSA website:
https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...ues/179831#g=6

Meanwhile, a PSA 5 of the same card sold for $840:
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=94056

I thought that the 11 (yes there were 11) Clemente rookies kind of cannibalized each other, especially in the low grades. An SGC 1.5 sold for only $990. I sold an SGC 1.5 on ebay for $1150 about an hour after I posted it a month ago.
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=94053

I would not have been pleased to have my Clemente rookie up against 10 others.

insidethewrapper 12-06-2021 02:27 PM

Cobb Dietsche fielding (PSA 3) starting to get some love $ 49,200, but still way below the T206 Green PSA 5.5 Cobb at $ 81,000. Cobb's are red hot, a lot of Detroit collectors out there.

Kutcher55 12-06-2021 02:45 PM

That’s an extremely nice 6 if you don’t mind a little surface chop. Must have been a couple of cowboys with neither one wanting to lose.

55koufax 12-06-2021 02:54 PM

'54 Topps 5 cent wax pack
 
I heard from my unopened collector pals that pack that went for $168K was won by either Marshall Fogel or Charles Merkel........and whichever was the winner, outbid the "notorious" Billionaire Nat Turner for it.

Also heard it is the only '54 Topps nickel pack ever to be graded by PSA. A true 1/1 on the PSA Registry (although I was told some GAI packs exist)

fkm_bky 12-06-2021 03:03 PM

That's ridiculous. Pop report for PSA/SGC is 12 (which isn't that low) to go for that amount. It's a nice looking card for sure and I'm happy for whoever sold it!

I'd be willing to let my pop 19 Vic Willis Port/Old Mill (SGC2.5) go for $5K to whoever is interested! :D That is quite a bargain! (sarcasm included for your enjoyment).

Bill

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Originally Posted by ccre (Post 2171784)
Can anyone explain this one to me??? $8,400 for this Waddell with a normal Old Mill back. That seems insane to me unless I'm missing something.
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=93493


fkm_bky 12-06-2021 03:04 PM

Beautiful card! I absolutely love the artwork on the M110's!

Congrats!

Bill

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Originally Posted by riggs336 (Post 2171953)
I picked up two non-sports sets for fair prices.
My big get was this M110 of Lajoie.


JimC 12-06-2021 03:04 PM

Opposite thoughts on price
 
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I was very happy to get both of these, but I expected to pay quite a bit more for the Cobb and quite a bit less for Mr. Bender.

Leon 12-06-2021 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jsfriedm (Post 2171929)
I was actually surprised by the prices of a few key cards that seemed pretty weak to me, in particular the 1933 Goudey Ruths - especially the two PSA 7s, and the 1951 Bowman Mantle rookies (it seems like the price ratio of Mantle to Mays these days is now below 2:1).

The Goudey Ruth 144 was really nice but the centering was off a little. One like it that was centered, a few Memory Lane auctions ago, went for twice that. And if this one was centered the same it too would have gotten to that amount or close to it. It's all about centering, everything else being equal....and on 7s they usually are.
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mouschi 12-06-2021 03:26 PM

I was merely a spectator this round, mainly trying to get some sort of comps on a few cards of mine, and I was pleased all the way around!

Here is what I was watching:

1909 T206 Cobb Green PSA 2 - $8,700
1910 E90-2 Wagner SGC 1.5 - $10,200
1915 CJ Cobb SGC 2 - $27,000
1915 CJ Jackson SGC 3 - $52,800 (I seem to get buy requests on this card weekly)

The biggest one that I was biting my nails on was the 1899 M101-1 BVG 2.5 Wagner rookie. It was low teens until later on in the last day, finally fetching $38,400. This is nearly triple what it did when it last sold in 2015, esp. when you take into account the tax paid on this vs. no tax paid back in 2015.

My M101-1 Wagner (though BVG "A") is the nicest looking copy of it I've seen, and ever since I picked it up a year or two ago, it has been that one piece that I always figured had the potential to be a chart topper of some sort. I think future sales will prove me right - it is definitely on the right path! Definitely one of those pieces when I show people, they 1) don't know what it is and 2) are shocked that such a beast exists!

While I would've been much happier with a 100k sale, I'm happy the bvg 2.5 came close to 40k. Such a cool, cool piece!

Wanaselja 12-06-2021 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JimC (Post 2172007)
I was very happy to get both of these, but I expected to pay quite a bit more for the Cobb and quite a bit less for Mr. Bender.

Love that Cobb!

robertsmithnocure 12-06-2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mouschi (Post 2172017)
The biggest one that I was biting my nails on was the 1899 M101-1 BVG 2.5 Wagner rookie. It was low teens until later on in the last day, finally fetching $38,400. This is nearly triple what it did when it last sold in 2015, esp. when you take into account the tax paid on this vs. no tax paid back in 2015.

My M101-1 Wagner (though BVG "A") is the nicest copy of it I've seen, and ever since I picked it up a year or two ago, it has been that one piece that I always figured had the potential to be a chart topper of some sort. I think future sales will prove me right - it is definitely on the right path! Definitely one of those pieces when I show people, they 1) don't know what it is and 2) are shocked that such a beast exists!

While I would've been much happier with a 100k sale, I'm happy the bvg 2.5 came close to 40k. Such a cool, cool piece!

Great pickups everyone. Seems like the really great stuff is as strong as ever.

I really like the M101-1 Sorting News Supplements. Not too many of each player out there. I would love to have a Young.

Your Beckett Authentic example is a great looking card, but it is kind of hard to declare it the “best” when it has been restored. I thought that one one in REA was a really nice example and is the only unaltered example that I have seen offered.

jsfriedm 12-06-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2172013)
The Goudey Ruth 144 was really nice but the centering was off a little. One like it that was centered, a few Memory Lane auctions ago, went for twice that. And if this one was centered the same it too would have gotten to that amount or close to it. It's all about centering, everything else being equal....and on 7s they usually are.
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I didn't compare the centering between this one and the Memory Lane one closely, but then again, I'm not (yet, I hope) in the market for six-figure cards. I tend not to worry about centering as much on 1933 Goudeys (unlike T205s, where it matters immensely to me), but maybe I would if I were buying 7s.

shammus 12-06-2021 04:33 PM

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Won an example of one of my favorite cards of all time...an e103 Tenny, along with a couple other e103s. This one might be handcut too! But given the premiums that are placed on Tenny nowadays, I thought this lot went fairly low.

Brian

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LincolnVT 12-06-2021 04:55 PM

Nice group! Tenny and Wood are tough.

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Originally Posted by shammus (Post 2172040)
Won an example of one of my favorite cards of all time...an e103 Tenny, along with a couple other e103s. This one might be handcut too! But given the premiums that are placed on Tenny nowadays, I thought this lot went fairly low.

Brian

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BobC 12-06-2021 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jsfriedm (Post 2171929)
I was actually surprised by the prices of a few key cards that seemed pretty weak to me, in particular the 1933 Goudey Ruths - especially the two PSA 7s, and the 1951 Bowman Mantle rookies (it seems like the price ratio of Mantle to Mays these days is now below 2:1).

Could that be because it seems every decent auction anymore has '33 Goudey Ruths, '52 Topps Mantles, '51 Bowman Mays and Mantle, and similar main cards in it, and that those that want them (and can afford the current inflated prices) already have them? If so, maybe the dealers and flippers have started to reach somewhat of a ceiling on those. Wouldn't be surprised to see that happening where there seems to be no limit to the numbers of "big" cards like these that always seem to be available for sale.

Meanwhile, maybe the focus, and higher prices, is starting to shift to the rarer, harder to find items of these players. Maybe not so much for Mantle and Mays, but definitely seems it could be the for Ruth cards. Especially since the Goudeys were so late in his career. There are tons of earlier Ruth cards for investors/flippers to look to.

investinrookies 12-06-2021 05:14 PM

REA results
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BobC (Post 2172058)
Could that be because it seems every decent auction anymore has '33 Goudey Ruths, '52 Topps Mantles, '51 Bowman Mays and Mantle, and similar main cards in it, and that those that want them (and can afford the current inflated prices) already have them? If so, maybe the dealers and flippers have started to reach somewhat of a ceiling on those. Wouldn't be surprised to see that happening where there seems to be no limit to the numbers of "big" cards like these that always seem to be available for sale.

Meanwhile, maybe the focus, and higher prices, is starting to shift to the rarer, harder to find items of these players. Maybe not so much for Mantle and Mays, but definitely seems it could be the for Ruth cards. Especially since the Goudeys were so late in his career. There are tons of earlier Ruth cards for investors/flippers to look to.


I have thought the same thing regrading some of the more main steam bigger cards. I personally am one that switched my focus to the more earlier/rare cards of Ruth/Cobb. To me these are a no brainer in this market and seem grossly undervalued.


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hcv123 12-06-2021 05:47 PM

I beg to differ with exception
 
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Originally Posted by investinrookies (Post 2172061)
I have thought the same thing regrading some of the more main steam bigger cards. I personally am one that switched my focus to the more earlier/rare cards of Ruth/Cobb. To me these are a no brainer in this market and seem grossly undervalued.


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The Goudeys are THE most sought after (read - highest demand) Ruth cards and will likely remain so - heck, I would call the #144 the "poster card" of prewar gum cards. There are only ~2,000 graded (PSA and SGC combined) examples of the #144 (+ I would guess considerably less than that # raw) , which while intially may sound like a big number - pales in comparison to the demand the card has. The 3 other Goudey's have lower populations. That said, I do agree that some of his earlier issues have considerably lower populations (and at least for now considerably lower demand). To me the head scratcher is Ruth's Exhibit cards (The '21 topping the list) and Exhibit cards in general - The 25 Gehrig Exhibit gets a "demand pass" and somehow shatters the Exhibit card price mold while all the rest of the Exhibit cards are ignored? Why?

BobC 12-06-2021 05:53 PM

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I have thought the same thing regrading some of the more main steam bigger cards. I personally am one that switched to the more earlier/rare cards of Ruth. To me these are a no brainer in this market and seem grossly undervalued.


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I'm the same way. I would love to pick up many cards, but am not going to pay the prices a lot of them are now going for. I will either wait till prices come back down to what I think they're worth and am willing to pay for certain cards, or not ever buy them if they don't come back down. Either way, that's fine with me. I am happy collecting on the lower end of the condition scale, and prefer raw cards, if possible. Actually feel more comfortable with the lower condition items as they would seem to be less likely to have been altered/doctored as well. I can do without overpaying for certain cards. There always seems to be other areas/items to collect from, and occasionally they can end up being a lot more interesting, at least to me.

Great examples, REA had a Ruth Feen-A-Mint mask that went for a not ridiculous amount in last night's auction. Certainly not a main stream card, but definitely a fairly rare Ruth item. And no, I did not win it last night as I was only watching it and hadn't put a bid in before extended bidding started. Kind of wished I had though, but was focused on some other items in REA. At least until until extended bidding started and I got blown out of water on pretty much everything I was interested in. LOL

mouschi 12-06-2021 05:54 PM

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Great pickups everyone. Seems like the really great stuff is as strong as ever.

I really like the M101-1 Sorting Life Supplements. Not too many of each player out there. I would love to have a Young.

Your Beckett Authentic example is a great looking card, but it is kind of hard to declare it the “best” when it has been restored. I thought that one one in REA was a really nice example and is the only unaltered example that I am aware of.

Thanks! I should clarify that I would never crown mine as the best ... but I would say it might be the nicest looking one I've seen. I don't go after altered stuff much, but when it comes to supplements like this, I'm fine with them.

robertsmithnocure 12-06-2021 05:58 PM

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Thanks! I should clarify that I would never crown mine as the best ... but I would say it might be the nicest looking one I've seen. I don't go after altered stuff much, but when it comes to supplements like this, I'm fine with them.

I agree. There is definitely a place for restored cards and memorabilia and your M101-1 Sporting News Wagner is a perfect example of what a skilled restorer can do. Yours looks fantastic.

t206kid 12-06-2021 06:01 PM

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Prices were definitely stout. Seems like a lot of the goofy stuff that went nuts has come back down to earth, and the truly cool stuff is still doing great.

I got the Cy Broad Leaf 460 and T206 Honus ad.

mouschi 12-06-2021 06:04 PM

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I agree. There is definitely a place for restored cards and memorabilia and your M101-1 Sporting News Wagner is a perfect example of what a skilled restorer can do. Yours looks fantastic.

I appreciate it! I edited my post so it was more clear I wasn't trying to say mine was the best. That just sounds icky! 😄

MuncieNolePAZ 12-06-2021 06:52 PM

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Prices were definitely stout. Seems like a lot of the goofy stuff that went nuts has come back down to earth, and the truly cool stuff is still doing great.

I got the Cy Broad Leaf 460 and T206 Honus ad.

Nice pick-up in the Cy Broad Leaf 460 Jay! I bid on it a few times yesterday. Awesome card. Glad you got it.

Thanks
Chad

BobC 12-06-2021 07:02 PM

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The Goudeys are THE most sought after (read - highest demand) Ruth cards and will likely remain so - heck, I would call the #144 the "poster card" of prewar gum cards. There are only ~2,000 graded (PSA and SGC combined) examples of the #144 (+ I would guess considerably less than that # raw) , which while intially may sound like a big number - pales in comparison to the demand the card has. The 3 other Goudey's have lower populations. That said, I do agree that some of his earlier issues have considerably lower populations (and at least for now considerably lower demand). To me the head scratcher is Ruth's Exhibit cards (The '21 topping the list) and Exhibit cards in general - The 25 Gehrig Exhibit gets a "demand pass" and somehow shatters the Exhibit card price mold while all the rest of the Exhibit cards are ignored? Why?

Howard,

Don't disagree with you at all, but have always wondered how much of that demand was due to the old Beckett guides listing Ruth's Goudey cards as his rookie cards. For chrissakes, it was Ruth's 19th season before he finally has a rookie card?!?!?! And yes, I know their definition of a rookie card was for one included in a nationally issued set. But that entire premise was based more on Topps and Bowman card issues, which was more of the sweet spot for the collectors who had grown up in the '40s, '50s, and '60s that Beckett was primarily marketing to back in the day. Heck, nationally issued, MLB wasn't even played West of St. Louis back in the '30s so it wasn't totally national either.

And personally for me, I have always liked to collect things that maybe not everyone else is into. That's exactly why I don't really collect T206 and the '33 and '34 Goudey sets. Everyone else is into those sets, so instead, I looked at collecting T205, S74, Diamond Stars, Batter-Up, and other oddball sets and the like. But that's me. I still think that "rookie card" designation for Ruth's Goudey cards is behind a good bit of that deemed value and demand they hold in the hobby. To me, this would be like saying Mantle's '69 Topps cards are his true rookie cards, and therefore, they're way more valuable than most all of his earlier issued items, save his true rookie cards from his earliest years in the league.

Griffins 12-06-2021 07:08 PM

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I heard from my unopened collector pals that pack that went for $168K was won by either Marshall Fogel or Charles Merkel........and whichever was the winner, outbid the "notorious" Billionaire Nat Turner for it.

Also heard it is the only '54 Topps nickel pack ever to be graded by PSA. A true 1/1 on the PSA Registry (although I was told some GAI packs exist)

Mine is a GAI 7.5 I know of at least one other GAI graded '54 dated pack.
there is a significant amount of '50's packs not in PSA holders.

Kevin 12-06-2021 07:43 PM

Silly Question
 
When do we get the invoices?

Carter08 12-06-2021 07:46 PM

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When do we get the invoices?

Invoices typically come in the next day or so. Shipping is usually soon but Heritage now has a message on its website saying the are running several weeks behind on shipping.

DeanH3 12-06-2021 07:56 PM

Landed a small score. However, I feel like a big winner considering the value growth of my current collection.

The 4 on 1 Exhibits have been growing on me. They have relatively low pop count.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=32257

BobC 12-06-2021 07:57 PM

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When do we get the invoices?

I actually got an email with my invoice from them at 8:53 AM this morning.

ThomasL 12-06-2021 07:58 PM

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When do we get the invoices?

I received mine this morning via email

x2drich2000 12-06-2021 07:58 PM

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When do we get the invoices?

I got mine at 8:30 this morning.


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