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Casey2296 07-11-2021 09:33 AM

Memory Lane Auction
 
Strong prices for a fantastic collection. Congratulations to the Newman family, Memory Lane for treating/marketing the collection properly, and any Net54 members who won.

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2122066)
Strong prices for a fantastic collection. Congratulations to the Newman family, Memory Lane for treating/marketing the collection properly, and any Net54 members who won.

4.2 million for a Goudey Ruth. Man.

notfast 07-11-2021 09:38 AM

Auction ran until 6-630am EST this morning. That’s not fun.

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by notfast (Post 2122068)
Auction ran until 6-630am EST this morning. That’s not fun.

Yes but what was JP's incentive to close when bids were rolling in?

Casey2296 07-11-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by notfast (Post 2122068)
Auction ran until 6-630am EST this morning. That’s not fun.

Not a big fan of that format. If the lots have action let em run but close the ones without action after 15 minutes.

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2122073)
Not a big fan of that format. If the lots have action let em run but close the ones without action after 15 minutes.

The AH is there to get the most for the consignor, and you know the argument, that if all lots remain open people who get maxxed can go back and spend on other lots which wouldn't be there with a 15 minute rule. Yes there are counterarguments but the debate will never be resolved.

3-2-count 07-11-2021 09:55 AM

Lots 1 thru 5 alone, ended north of $10 million bucks combined!

perezfan 07-11-2021 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122076)
The AH is there to get the most for the consignor, and you know the argument, that if all lots remain open people who get maxxed can go back and spend on other lots which wouldn't be there with a 15 minute rule. Yes there are counterarguments but the debate will never be resolved.

Right. Their first allegiance is to their consignors.

Can't even count how many times (as a bidder) I have been outbid very late, only to jump over to a lot that's been stagnant for hours because it's still within my spending limit. But we have re-hashed this a thousand times, and people will always be split on the issue.

Johnny630 07-11-2021 10:05 AM

Auction Houses Have The Market Cornered. It’s hard to find people willing to sell their high end cards for cash privately when AH’s are brining in these numbers.

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2122082)
Auction Houses Have The Market Cornered. It’s hard to find people willing to sell their high end cards for cash privately when AH’s are brining in these numbers.

On the flip side, it appears to me many people would rather overpay an auction house than pay a fair but reasonable price for a nice card privately.:cool:

mrreality68 07-11-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by notfast (Post 2122068)
Auction ran until 6-630am EST this morning. That’s not fun.

Agreed not fun especially when no action on an item you bid on and at 3 am get outbid. Lol

But great cards

Johnny630 07-11-2021 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122085)
On the flip side, it appears to me many people would rather overpay an auction house than pay a fair but reasonable price for a nice card privately.:cool:

I don’t understand it anymore, agree Peter! It’s greed they want the most on everything.

Casey2296 07-11-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122085)
On the flip side, it appears to me many people would rather overpay an auction house than pay a fair but reasonable price for a nice card privately.:cool:

I can send you a list of cards I would be more than happy to pay a fair and reasonable price for, some of which I would pay close to AH prices for as I prefer spending $$ with members or other collectors. Only problem is those cards usually pop up in auctions before I get a shot at them.

oldjudge 07-11-2021 11:17 AM

I think ML did a great job for the Newman family.

Rhotchkiss 07-11-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2122103)
I think ML did a great job for the Newman family.

+1

sb1 07-11-2021 11:44 AM

At 4:00 am I envisioned it going on for hours and everyone getting up on the east coast and start bidding again. I was high on my one lot well before midnight and was not looking forward to a Sunday morning bid resurgence. I i finally decided that I was not going to get up again, I would either win the lot or not. It might be interesting to hear from the bidders, how many either fell asleep and lost out or simply lost interest from the auction going for so long well into the next morning.

It was a very strong showing for vintage, especially 19th century. I imagine the total sales exceeded their pre-auction estimate. And a nice break not to see 500 modern basketball cards being the headliners.

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2122099)
I can send you a list of cards I would be more than happy to pay a fair and reasonable price for, some of which I would pay close to AH prices for as I prefer spending $$ with members or other collectors. Only problem is those cards usually pop up in auctions before I get a shot at them.

I view buying out of auctions as a last resort, because inevitably on cards I want the prices go to the moon.:D

Snapolit1 07-11-2021 12:19 PM

The really annoying thing about auctions now is a PSA 7.5 card will sell for $20,000 and I will receive offers to buy the same card as a PSA 7 via Heritage offers system for $4,000. I if I accept that offer I can then pay Heritage 10% commission I believe.

I may be stupid, but not that stupid.

Lorewalker 07-11-2021 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by notfast (Post 2122068)
Auction ran until 6-630am EST this morning. That’s not fun.

He has far less important ones "run" until after 9:00AM EST.

rats60 07-11-2021 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2122081)
Right. Their first allegiance is to their consignors.

Can't even count how many times (as a bidder) I have been outbid very late, only to jump over to a lot that's been stagnant for hours because it's still within my spending limit. But we have re-hashed this a thousand times, and people will always be split on the issue.

It just rewards those who stay up all night. If the person who would pay the most is asleep when he is out bid, the consignor doesn't get the most for his card. I know people think bidders should put in their high bid, but shillers and auction houses like Mastro who shilled their auctions, make that unpractical.

The only way an Auction House is going to maximize for their consignors is to end the auction when everyone is awake.

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 2122135)
It just rewards those who stay up all night. If the person who would pay the most is asleep when he is out bid, the consignor doesn't get the most for his card. I know people think bidders should put in their high bid, but shillers and auction houses like Mastro who shilled their auctions, make that unpractical.

The only way an Auction House is going to maximize for their consignors is to end the auction when everyone is awake.

If I am JP and looking at prices realized (holy shit BTW on many of them) I am probably thinking I don't need to change anything.

trambo 07-11-2021 12:48 PM

Some strong prices for sure! Went to sleep around 11pm Eastern with a winning bid. Woke up around 5:40am to see I had been outbid around 3:45am or so. Didn't think I'd have a chance to bid again after I fell asleep but was happy to place one final bid (and win).

Don't love the all night auction and understand both sides of it. I also think the 15 or 30 minute rule on a lot by lot basis should give everyone time to duke it out on lots and still have time to bid on the other items if they're outbid. I enjoyed a 10:30pm ending of a recent auction house win as a result! Not complaining about how AH's do their thing at all. You know the rules going in so as long as they're living up to those rules, all good! Just stating a preference here!!

Congrats to all who won!!

Snapolit1 07-11-2021 12:56 PM

At the super high end obviously there were some unreal prices.

I was following some pricey items (15,000-30,000) and honestly the prices realized on that level didn't seem bat shit crazy like January - February.

Casey2296 07-11-2021 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2122144)
At the super high end obviously there were some unreal prices.

I was following some pricey items (15,000-30,000) and honestly the prices realized on that level didn't seem bat shit crazy like January - February.

The 14CJ Cobb 4 was well bought imo.

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2122144)
At the super high end obviously there were some unreal prices.

I was following some pricey items (15,000-30,000) and honestly the prices realized on that level didn't seem bat shit crazy like January - February.

Is this the first Gehrig rookie to top 1 million?

chriskim 07-11-2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122136)
If I am JP and looking at prices realized (holy shit BTW on many of them) I am probably thinking I don't need to change anything.

Agree! Let auction runs forever is the best format and can bring the most money to consigners. Bidders are supposed to place the max bids on something "I got to have it" items, if u just want to place "marginal" bids then u don't really want them as bad.

chriskim 07-11-2021 01:05 PM

Very happy to see the winner of 52T Mantle PSA8 is buying the card and not the holder. There were a few PSA8s (with centering issue) in recent auctions ended in much lower price.

Casey2296 07-11-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122150)
Is this the first Gehrig rookie to top 1 million?

I think so, the one in Goldins went for 782K.

pclpads 07-11-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by notfast (Post 2122068)
Auction ran until 6-630am EST this morning. That’s not fun.

That 3 hour time diff on the left coast is one of the few advantages of living here. It somewhat - but not entirely - makes up for all the crime, gang bangers, shitty air, traffic gridlock, heat, drought, density, fires and quakes.
Somewhat . . . :D

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 01:23 PM

In 2007 JP sold a PSA 5 for 7800. Who knew.

Casey2296 07-11-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122161)
In 2007 JP sold a PSA 5 for 7800. Who knew.

Hotchkiss

Snapolit1 07-11-2021 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122150)
Is this the first Gehrig rookie to top 1 million?

Yep.

doug.goodman 07-11-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2122081)
Right. Their first allegiance is to their consignors.

Can't even count how many times (as a bidder) I have been outbid very late, only to jump over to a lot that's been stagnant for hours because it's still within my spending limit. But we have re-hashed this a thousand times, and people will always be split on the issue.

The only people who will be split are those not looking at it from the viewpoint of what is best for the consignor.

I don't like getting outbid after hours of no action, but whoever consigned the item likes that I was.

shagrotn77 07-11-2021 01:54 PM

I wasn't thrilled with an email going out at 4:05 stating that the auction was unlikely to go past 4:15. It ended after 6 AM EST. That said, I was snoozing when the email went out and I maintained my high bid.

investinrookies 07-11-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chriskim (Post 2122153)
Very happy to see the winner of 52T Mantle PSA8 is buying the card and not the holder. There were a few PSA8s (with centering issue) in recent auctions ended in much lower price.

that sale blew away the two previous realized prices in feb/march of this year for PSA 8's (reference VCP). Both of those were also nicely centered as well. This card was very similar to those, makes the previous highs of 1.3 and 1.6 mil back in feb/march of this year look like a steal. That card just always has buyers willing to pay more and dont see that ever changing.

GasHouseGang 07-11-2021 02:53 PM

Well at least today we have a lot of really tired rich people! :D

Bicem 07-11-2021 03:15 PM

Anyone win anything? Won the 1916 WS program. Wanted the Fatima Red Sox ad piece but no luck.

Rhotchkiss 07-11-2021 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2122162)
Hotchkiss

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I won this. I wanted some other stuff but prices went beyond where I comfortable.

Casey2296 07-11-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2122217)
??

Peter was quoting the earlier lower prices on the Gehrig compared to what they're going for now and asked "who knew?"
You timed the purchase of yours perfect, right before the run up. I think your purchase may have awakened a few folks to the significance of that card.

sb1 07-11-2021 04:35 PM

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My lone win, which will surprise no one, the image from a 2013 Goodwin auction. Reholdered in between sales.

Bicem 07-11-2021 04:42 PM

Amazing card Scott, congrats!

Rhotchkiss 07-11-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2122218)
Peter was quoting the earlier lower prices on the Gehrig compared to what they're going for now and asked "who knew?"
You timed the purchase of yours perfect, right before the run up.

Ohhh! Gotcha. Yea, but I still could have been (wish I was) on it earlier.

Scott, that Delahanty is awesome!! You paid up for it, but it’s worth it. Congrats!

mrreality68 07-11-2021 04:46 PM

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I was in sensory overload with some many cards on my wish list and/or want list.
But I have been on the hunt for a 1914 CJ Joe Jackson Card to expand my Joe Jackson Collection that I had to pay up for it a bit. But I was happy with the results

Casey2296 07-11-2021 04:55 PM

Great pick up Jeff, congratulations. Now you have the red for red, white and blue day.

sb1 07-11-2021 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2122229)
Ohhh! Gotcha. Yea, but I still could have been (wish I was) on it earlier.

Scott, that Delahanty is awesome!! You paid up for it, nuts it’s worth it. Congrats!

Thanks, it upgraded my 1902 Type 1. I assumed it might bring 50-70k based on other tough/high grade SL cabinets but was pleasantly surprised at the results. As we know Ed died in July 1903, SL discontinued offering his cabinet shortly after, the type 2 is actually scarcer than the type 1.

shagrotn77 07-11-2021 05:07 PM

My lone pickup. Very happy to finally add one:

https://memorylaneinc.com/site/image...3_1_135484.jpg

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 05:10 PM

The West is a grail for sure. All these years later I am beating myself up for not bidding on a PSA 5 1960 Oscar.

Rhotchkiss 07-11-2021 05:23 PM

Damn Jeff. GREAT pick up. I am proud to be the owner of your former CJ; this one is certainly an upgrade for you. Personally, I love the caramel stains

mrreality68 07-11-2021 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2122234)
Great pick up Jeff, congratulations. Now you have the red for red, white and blue day.

Thanks. Now I have to figure out the right blue card that fits my collection

sportscardpete 07-11-2021 05:53 PM

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Great pickups everyone! I finally landed this:

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shagrotn77 07-11-2021 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscardpete (Post 2122259)
Great pickups everyone! I finally landed this:

Attachment 468783

Awesome grab!

atx840 07-11-2021 06:00 PM

Fantastic cards everyone!

mrreality68 07-11-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscardpete (Post 2122259)
Great pickups everyone! I finally landed this:

Attachment 468783

Congrats on the end of that hunt. Very nice eye appeal

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 06:22 PM

Why do these threads always become a love-in?:D

Johnny630 07-11-2021 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122286)
Why do these threads always become a love-in?:D

It’s a addiction/disease people get hooked on the rush, thrill, and mostly about the Joy of owning a cool card!

It’s emotional!

Peter_Spaeth 07-11-2021 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2122287)
It’s a addiction/disease people get hooked on the rush, thrill, and mostly about the Joy of owning a cool card!

It’s emotional!

Would people still collect if there was no social aspect to it?

Rhotchkiss 07-11-2021 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscardpete (Post 2122259)
Great pickups everyone! I finally landed this:

Attachment 468783

Steal of the auction! Congrats on a great example it a great card (at a great price)

Jdoggs 07-11-2021 06:55 PM

Nice Cobb.

Wanaselja 07-11-2021 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122290)
Would people still collect if there was no social aspect to it?

Asks the guy posting on a collectors forum community thread.

scooter729 07-11-2021 07:19 PM

I haven't seen an official announcement from Memory Lane yet, but looks like final bids totaled $21.58M (including the juice). Wow!

Casey2296 07-11-2021 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscardpete (Post 2122259)
Great pickups everyone! I finally landed this:

Attachment 468783

Congrats Pete, you’ve been after that one for awhile. Great pickup.

Casey2296 07-11-2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2122252)
Thanks. Now I have to figure out the right blue card that fits my collection

Blue border Baltimore News Ruth should fit in nicely.

puckpaul 07-12-2021 07:17 AM

Great card, congrats

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb1 (Post 2122222)
My lone win, which will surprise no one, the image from a 2013 Goodwin auction. Reholdered in between sales.


puckpaul 07-12-2021 07:34 AM

Finally got 3 of the 4 T3’s I needed! Paid up in Ex 5 (two old PSA graded ones and an SGC). Hope they are as nice as they seemed (pictures not that great online), older T3 grading can be varied. Passed on the one card (!) I had left the Criger, it was a 5 with next bid $2200, but this one appeared to have some paper loss on the front. Would rather have a clean 4 for $500-700, but these have become harder to find lately. I think there are clearly some registry guys pushing the higher grades on these. Great cards, prices are still reasonable frankly, especially in nice conditions.

Last 10 cards (which I don’t think are particularly more difficult than other commons) have gotten much harder to find and took me a few years.

jayshum 07-12-2021 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by puckpaul (Post 2122443)
Finally got 3 of the 4 T3’s I needed! Paid up in Ex 5 (two old PSA graded ones and an SGC). Hope they are as nice as they seemed (pictures not that great online), older T3 grading can be varied. Passed on the one card (!) I had left the Criger, it was a 5 with next bid $2200, but this one appeared to have some paper loss on the front. Would rather have a clean 4 for $500-700, but these have become harder to find lately. I think there are clearly some registry guys pushing the higher grades on these. Great cards, prices are still reasonable frankly, especially in nice conditions.

Last 10 cards (which I don’t think are particularly more difficult than other commons) have gotten much harder to find and took me a few years.

Paul, good luck finding a T3 Criger you are happy with to complete your set. From what I saw, the T3s in this auction seemed to go for a wide range of prices for similar grades, but there was 1 that I thought went a lot lower than I would have expected - the SGC 5 Tenney NY and Boston variation sold for only $1171. When I was looking for this card, I saw much worse condition ones offered and sold for around this price or higher as it is one of the tougher variations in the set so whoever got it at this price did pretty well.

Snapolit1 07-12-2021 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122290)
Would people still collect if there was no social aspect to it?

To some folks I'm sure the social "attaboy!" helps alleviate any nagging misgivings or guilt they have in making a large purchase on something that isn't exactly a necessity in life.

Unfortunately my experience often is the rush is very short-lived. Yes, I have things I treasure. And a lot of things I could probably have done without.

hcv123 07-12-2021 12:05 PM

Some incredible cards and prices
 
I had my eye on a lot of lots. Stuff all over the place sold really strong - not just the big ticket items. Doing shows regularly now I see key vintage prices leveling and starting to tick up again. Not many, but there were a few reasonable deals to be had. When all was said and done I landed a single lot for what I thought was a great price - 1938 Goudey Greenberg PSA 6. Congrats to all the board members who won some great cards!

puckpaul 07-12-2021 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2122461)
Paul, good luck finding a T3 Criger you are happy with to complete your set. From what I saw, the T3s in this auction seemed to go for a wide range of prices for similar grades, but there was 1 that I thought went a lot lower than I would have expected - the SGC 5 Tenney NY and Boston variation sold for only $1171. When I was looking for this card, I saw much worse condition ones offered and sold for around this price or higher as it is one of the tougher variations in the set so whoever got it at this price did pretty well.


that was me! I was excited that I got that one at that price, it does seem to be harder to find. the others I have seen and passed on for various reasons, but that one was elusive.

puckpaul 07-12-2021 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 2122523)
I had my eye on a lot of lots. Stuff all over the place sold really strong - not just the big ticket items. Doing shows regularly now I see key vintage prices leveling and starting to tick up again. Not many, but there were a few reasonable deals to be had. When all was said and done I landed a single lot for what I thought was a great price - 1938 Goudey Greenberg PSA 6. Congrats to all the board members who won some great cards!

that was a nice pickup (I was underbidder and not sure why I didn't bid again...). Greenberg is still relatively cheap, though has picked up lately notably in the 34 Goudey and the Diamond Star.

the Hockey Sport Kings did really well. don't see them often in high grade.

puckpaul 07-12-2021 08:20 PM

actually, I forgot to mention the M101-2 prices, wow. have those EVER sold for those kind of prices? it really seems to help that PSA is grading them, I guess, that seems new?

jayshum 07-12-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by puckpaul (Post 2122662)
that was me! I was excited that I got that one at that price, it does seem to be harder to find. the others I have seen and passed on for various reasons, but that one was elusive.

Definitely a nice pickup for that price. Congrats.

oldjudge 07-12-2021 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2122469)
To some folks I'm sure the social "attaboy!" helps alleviate any nagging misgivings or guilt they have in making a large purchase on something that isn't exactly a necessity in life.

Unfortunately my experience often is the rush is very short-lived. Yes, I have things I treasure. And a lot of things I could probably have done without.

Both points are spot on

RedsFan1941 07-13-2021 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2122290)
Would people still collect if there was no social aspect to it?

social aspect is very important. many times buyers rely on other board members to explain to them what they just bought.

Johnny630 07-13-2021 07:27 AM

I'm I the only one who thinks the elevator doesn't only continue to go up???

Leon 07-14-2021 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2122776)
I'm I the only one who thinks the elevator doesn't only continue to go up???

Apparently ......from the prices realized. Good for ML and the doctors family.

.

Johnny630 07-15-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2123126)
Apparently ......from the prices realized. Good for ML and the doctors family.

.

I'm happy for the Doctors Family and ML As well those are good Guys in the hobby.

The only thing in my mind that could put a major halt on all of this is Indictments from 2019 investigation.


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