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Leon 06-30-2021 09:54 AM

Scarce "Type" Cards
 
I think I will always love scarce type cards...whether from a set or individually known..

https://luckeycards.com/hunc1913oaks.jpg

benge610 06-30-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2118421)
I think I will always love scarce type cards...whether from a set or individually known..

https://luckeycards.com/hunc1913oaks.jpg

I hear ya on that Type Card thang.
I sure wasn't going to hunt this set. Purchased from our humble "peasant/forum owner", 20 some years ago on eBay; when eBay hunting was fun.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=31324

Galena, IL was our honeymoon place; of course, Mr. Grant is much present there. Still one of the faves of my collection.

Rhotchkiss 06-30-2021 10:26 AM

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I have many scarce backs, but not too many scarce types, although I think this fits the bill. Are there any other Harper Whiskey cards/players?

Casey2296 06-30-2021 11:16 AM

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Super nice "Team Issue" Leon. Preaching to the choir, I love rare type cards and their stories.
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Hankphenom 06-30-2021 12:03 PM

That's just nuts that TT grades a "1," Phil. As I like to put it, the same grade it would get if run over by a tank in the mud. Somehow, the lower end of the grading scale needs to be fixed.

Clutch-Hitter 06-30-2021 12:24 PM

Hopefully this topic will get some attention. Nice cards

Pre War Starter 06-30-2021 01:09 PM

Site won’t allow me to post pics, but I have a YouTube channel that I post all my PreWar Type Back cards.
Baltimore Shirts -Kansas City Blues
Lots of Mendelssohn type cards.
Lots of 1/1 from pop reports..

https://youtube.com/channel/UC4dAXD0zaLB1qcM8yB-j4Tg

Casey2296 06-30-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2118488)
That's just nuts that TT grades a "1," Phil. As I like to put it, the same grade it would get if run over by a tank in the mud. Somehow, the lower end of the grading scale needs to be fixed.

I'll take "1"s like that any day. A couple more hen's teeth.
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nolemmings 06-30-2021 01:33 PM

One of three confirmed
 
Probably from 1915, not 1917. Matty and WaJo are the only others confirmed.

[IMG]https://photos.imageevent.com/imover...17fmschalk.jpg[/IMG]

oldjudge 06-30-2021 01:39 PM

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1886 Hancock Clothing. These represent the first minor league cards and the first cards with players info on the back. Three known—each unique.

Leon 06-30-2021 03:00 PM

I remember getting about 5 of these with the Trophy Sticker on them...and was glad to reacquire one.

https://luckeycards.com/d382.jpg

x2drich2000 06-30-2021 03:33 PM

A little outside the normal definition of a card, but one of my favorites. Wish I could find a copy of the Brown and Mathewson.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...506b9633_o.jpg

Exhibitman 06-30-2021 04:17 PM

If you're gonna go with obscure types you may as well go with the big fella:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...20Snookums.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...Unc%20Ruth.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...e%20Ruth_1.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...remium%202.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...-Alexander.jpg

brianp-beme 06-30-2021 04:43 PM

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My old standbys when it comes to offering up scarce type cards:

R308 Tattoo Orbit Large size of Pepper Martin, shown with its smaller, much more common R308 brother, and a R305 (color) of him as well for size comparison.

1924 Crescent Ice Cream of Goodall, a Canadian ice cream card that is just darn scarce (separate scan from Tattoo Orbit. It is actually 3/8" or so narrower than the R305 Tattoo Orbit color card shown, and about its same height).

Brian

CobbSpikedMe 06-30-2021 04:54 PM

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I don't see these very often and just love them. They are very small "cards" and seem to have no uniformity in size when there are several of them next to each other. Almost certainly hand cut.


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edjs 06-30-2021 06:04 PM

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These are one of my favorite sets.

tedzan 06-30-2021 06:10 PM

Scarce "Type" Cards
 
I acquired this up in Cooperstown

The first "little" World Series was played in 1904. The Buffalo Bisons of the Eastern (International) League beat the St Paul Saints of the American Association.
I acquired this very rare composite 31 years ago, while set-up at the Cooperstown HOF weekend Baseball Card Show. A gentleman "walked-in" with it, he was
interested in it's trade value. I gave him a fair figure and he traded it to me for a bunch of T206 stars and commons.
I have searched for another one since 1990, but to no avail.

I am thinking of eventually donating it to the Hall of Fame. It's a significant piece of Baseball history, since No Major League World Series was played in 1904.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sonsTeam50.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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ccre 06-30-2021 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2118531)
1886 Hancock Clothing. These represent the first minor league cards and the first cards with players info on the back. Three known—each unique.

Love the Hancock Clothings. I've never heard of these before.

Exhibitman 07-01-2021 06:43 AM

These strips are nearly impossible:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...Unc%20Cobb.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...%20Simmons.jpg

So are these, apparently:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...%20Averill.jpg

I've been chasing the SPs from the 1968 Atlantic Oil set for decades; I've seen under 5.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...A%203%20MK.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...c%20Wilson.jpg

These Sommer & Kaufmann cards are rare as hell to begin with and then you add the signature:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...SK%20PDoul.jpg

Neal 07-01-2021 08:00 AM

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I don't own any scarce type prewar, but I believe this Mays works ....

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Jobu 07-01-2021 08:32 AM

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Still hoping someone can tell me what this one is. Printed on very heavy stock.

P & A Photo is likely Pacific & Atlantic Photos (1921-1932). Mostil was on the White Sox from 1918-1929.

gabrinus 07-01-2021 10:25 AM

Texas Tommy
 
Great cards guys...I think these all qualify...Texas Tommy is one set I never dabbled in...Jerry

rjackson44 07-01-2021 10:41 AM

My type of stuff

Yoda 07-01-2021 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe (Post 2118587)
I don't see these very often and just love them. They are very small "cards" and seem to have no uniformity in size when there are several of them next to each other. Almost certainly hand cut.


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They look a lot like cards issued from Penny Arcade machines.

Leon 07-01-2021 10:54 AM

E224
 
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Originally Posted by gabrinus (Post 2118828)
Great cards guys...I think these all qualify...Texas Tommy is one set I never dabbled in...Jerry

Texas Tommy's have their own unique look. The type 2s are cool too but I don't have any of those right now.
And as far as TTs go, this isn't that big of a miss cut, if one at all.

https://luckeycards.com/e224meyers.jpg

molenick 07-02-2021 08:25 AM

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I don't have a Type 1 but here is my Type 2.

phlflyer1 07-02-2021 10:29 AM

Big Eater
 
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Add me to the list of collectors with an appetite for scarce type cards.

Exhibitman 07-02-2021 12:33 PM

I know it isn't baseball but here is a hobby unicorn: the R340 Sport Kings premium of Dempsey, Baer and Carnera using an image from the MGM film The Prizefighter and the Lady. There are two known SK premiums, this one and Weissmuller, with one known example of each.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...y%20boxers.jpg

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ings-premiums/

Lou Gehrig Coney Island Arcade card:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...e%20Gehrig.jpg

1964 Penafiel Gehrig:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...l%20Gehrig.jpg

Casey2296 07-02-2021 12:38 PM

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Nice Big Eater Scott.
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Eggoman 07-02-2021 02:06 PM

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It's "ONLY" a boxing card, but it's one that my Pa found scouring Flea Markets, Garage Sales, etc.

You NEVER knew what he would come home with because HE never knew what he would come home with!

Only one of Paddy Ryan ever graded by PSA!

Good Find, Pa - RIP!

Exhibitman 07-03-2021 10:40 AM

Cool one!

Eggoman 07-03-2021 11:01 AM

Thanks, Man!

timn1 07-03-2021 11:05 AM

one of my scarcest types
 
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My whole type collection can be viewed at

https://imageevent.com/apspr/basebal...cardcollection

t213 07-03-2021 06:30 PM

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more N321s

darwinbulldog 07-03-2021 08:32 PM

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Easily my favorite part of my collection. There are baseball players on the other side if I remember correctly, but who looks at the front of a card?

Spike 07-03-2021 09:40 PM

1889 "Stars of the Diamond" #4 Gus Weyhing newspaper profile
 
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Got this from Lew Lipset's collection sell-off a few years back and still hope to locate #5 Lave Cross at some point.

Casey2296 07-03-2021 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by timn1 (Post 2119551)
My whole type collection can be viewed at

https://imageevent.com/apspr/basebal...cardcollection

Very nice collection Tim.

BeanTown 07-04-2021 09:33 AM

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I hate threads like this. Makes me want to start collecting type cards again!!!

brianp-beme 07-04-2021 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2119758)
Very nice collection Tim.

I agree...impressive array of cards, postcards, pins, etc., some of which I have never seen/noticed before.

Brian

Leon 07-05-2021 10:26 AM

1929 Tower Theater.... Only one I have seen...

https://luckeycards.com/phunc1929towercochrane.jpg

ValKehl 07-05-2021 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by darwinbulldog (Post 2119724)
Easily my favorite part of my collection. There are baseball players on the other side if I remember correctly, but who looks at the front of a card?

Glenn, you have great group of type cards. I enjoy looking at BOTH sides of my type cards, especially when these players are on the fronts! :D

therajah 07-05-2021 06:55 PM

1926 Kut Outs Gehrig
 
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CobbSpikedMe 07-05-2021 07:52 PM

Very nice Gehrig there!




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asphaltman 07-05-2021 08:23 PM

<a href="https://ibb.co/d66pS6S"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/2PPMwPw/1909-Atlanta-Crackers-PC-Bayless-F.jpg" alt="1909-Atlanta-Crackers-PC-Bayless-F" border="0"></a><a href="https://ibb.co/y5LWxQF"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/gwszcRZ/1909-Atlanta-Crackers-PC-Bayless-B.jpg" alt="1909-Atlanta-Crackers-PC-Bayless-B" border="0"></a>

Exhibitman 07-06-2021 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timn1 (Post 2119551)
My whole type collection can be viewed at

https://imageevent.com/apspr/basebal...cardcollection

Very nice, Tim. Btw your 1921 and 1922 Exhibit cards are reversed.

Leon 07-07-2021 10:29 AM

R329 Foto Fun
 
R329....in almost mint condition with reference to the photo

https://luckeycards.com/r329fotofunhubell.jpg

birdman42 07-07-2021 08:07 PM

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A few with a theme...

asphaltman 07-07-2021 09:15 PM

<a href="https://ibb.co/DpQ7P2P"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/ZmxhRDR/1940-Crowley-039-s-Milk-Milosevich-F.jpg" alt="1940-Crowley-039-s-Milk-Milosevich-F" border="0"></a><a href="https://ibb.co/hDcqfqP"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/m60x8xL/1940-Crowley-039-s-Milk-Milosevich-B.jpg" alt="1940-Crowley-039-s-Milk-Milosevich-B" border="0"></a>

ValKehl 07-07-2021 09:40 PM

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Nice Crowley's Milk card, Dave. It's neat that it was used as a post card in the year of issue. Coincidentally, I sold my type card from this set a couple of hours ago on eBay.

Brian Van Horn 07-07-2021 10:15 PM

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Section103 07-08-2021 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2118438)
I have many scarce backs, but not too many scarce types, although I think this fits the bill. Are there any other Harper Whiskey cards/players?

Whoa. Had no idea this existed. I love IW Harper.

Hankphenom 07-08-2021 10:14 AM

This is one of my favorite threads ever, so great to see these amazing rarities. I have some things on the memorabilia side, and have dealt many more, that are the only copies of an item I've ever seen in many decades of looking for this stuff. A lot of these cards would seem to fall into the same category, and it always begs the question for me: how in the world can there apparently only be one (or several, accounting for items in collections that have never been made public, or that I'm not aware of) of these things? I'd love to know the stories behind them.

Jobu 07-08-2021 10:59 AM

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Not too many S74 Red Sun baseball players out there. The Tinker is a promo piece for a stage show he did so not really from a set, but I haven't seen another.

tedzan 07-08-2021 03:57 PM

Scarce "Type" Cards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2121145)
This is one of my favorite threads ever, so great to see these amazing rarities. I have some things on the memorabilia side, and have dealt many more, that are the only copies of an item I've ever seen in many decades of looking for this stuff. A lot of these cards would seem to fall into the same category, and it always begs the question for me: how in the world can there apparently only be one (or several, accounting for items in collections that have never been made public, or that I'm not aware of) of these things? I'd love to know the stories behind them.

Very well stated, Hank. Especially..... "I'd love to know the stories behind them."


During my continuing research to find a second one of these 1904 pieces, I was surprised to find out that there was no Major League World Series played in 1904.
John McGraw, and Giants Owner (John T. Brush), refused to play the Boston Americans. There is an excellent book written on this subject by Benton Stark (1991).


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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2118616)

The first "little" World Series was played in 1904. The Buffalo Bisons of the Eastern (International) League beat the St Paul Saints of the American Association.
I acquired this very rare composite 31 years ago, while set-up at the Cooperstown HOF weekend Baseball Card Show. A gentleman "walked-in" with it, he was
interested in it's trade value. I gave him a fair figure and he traded it to me for a bunch of T206 stars and commons.
I have searched for another one since 1990, but to no avail.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sonsTeam50.jpg


Incidentally, a Net54 member inquired which Delahanty brother is pictured on this Buffalo Bisons team......Joseph Delahanty.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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benge610 07-08-2021 04:46 PM

Speaking of:
"I'd love to know the stories behind them".

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=30243

It's also a Sweet Cap 150/25.
So, there's that.
(interesting "Powers" dating)

Brian Van Horn 07-08-2021 05:47 PM

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One more 1915 W-unc. Also, Kelly and actor Norman Kerry from the 1923 "Shoulderless" set. Kerry was best known for being in the original film production of "Phantom of the Opera".

asphaltman 07-08-2021 09:01 PM

Dang Val, I might have pushed the bidding up on that had I seen it. I don't know that "scarce" is the right word for the Gassler's...but they've certainly proven to be tough to find. I like the simple b&w issues' of the 1920s

<a href="https://ibb.co/kXTY8tC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/4pLBTHr/1922-Gassler-039-s-Bread-Shea-F.jpg" alt="1922-Gassler-039-s-Bread-Shea-F" border="0"></a><a href="https://ibb.co/QXgq5QX"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/R7FM5b7/1922-Gassler-039-s-Bread-Shea-B.jpg" alt="1922-Gassler-039-s-Bread-Shea-B" border="0"></a>

ValKehl 07-08-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by asphaltman (Post 2121354)
Dang Val, I might have pushed the bidding up on that had I seen it. I don't know that "scarce" is the right word for the Gassler's...but they've certainly proven to be tough to find. I like the simple b&w issues' of the 1920s.

Dave, I wish you had seen my Crowley's Milk card and pushed the bidding up! I'm with you regarding the b&w issues of the 1920's, and I do consider Gassler's Bread cards to be scarce. Here's my Gassler's card along with another very scarce card of Pat (with no " ") Shea:

Exhibitman 07-09-2021 11:34 AM

You boys sure have some great stuff! A pleasure to see.

The Sylvan Sweets order card would fit the call of the question; the flip books are uncommon but findable, but the order cards, yeah, not so much. Took me a few years and a lucky break at the 2019 National:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...binson%201.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...binson%202.jpg

Now this one is modern (1982) but I had never seen one before I added it to my Aaron collection:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Aaron%201.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Aaron%202.jpg

From a tour of the Korean professional baseball league that Aaron and Ernie Banks (among others) did in 1982. Not sure who made it since I don't read Korean but the mascot looks like a wiener in formal wear. I dunno.

asphaltman 07-09-2021 12:30 PM

Definitely some nice stuff being posted. Here's another of mine going through drawers.

<a href="https://ibb.co/vQMCN7P"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/5nJXQN8/1911-Stevens-FIrearms-Oldring-F.jpg" alt="1911-Stevens-FIrearms-Oldring-F" border="0"></a><a href="https://ibb.co/7gGnfgn"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/vsJ3Fs3/1911-Stevens-Firearms-Oldring-B.jpg" alt="1911-Stevens-Firearms-Oldring-B" border="0"></a>

Leon 07-10-2021 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by asphaltman (Post 2121481)
Definitely some nice stuff being posted. Here's another of mine going through drawers.

<a href="https://ibb.co/vQMCN7P"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/5nJXQN8/1911-Stevens-FIrearms-Oldring-F.jpg" alt="1911-Stevens-FIrearms-Oldring-F" border="0"></a><a href="https://ibb.co/7gGnfgn"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/vsJ3Fs3/1911-Stevens-Firearms-Oldring-B.jpg" alt="1911-Stevens-Firearms-Oldring-B" border="0"></a>

Connie smoking a cigar...

https://luckeycards.com/mack.jpg

asphaltman 07-10-2021 02:49 PM

<a href="https://ibb.co/wJkZYJq"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/5Y0X2Y3/1910-D380-Clement-Bros-Tooley-F.jpg" alt="1910-D380-Clement-Bros-Tooley-F" border="0"></a><a href="https://ibb.co/BCQgwkt"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/6WT4NQm/1910-D380-Clement-Bros-Tooley-B.jpg" alt="1910-D380-Clement-Bros-Tooley-B" border="0"></a>

Leon 07-12-2021 09:15 AM

1927 Babe... cardboard stock.... 5x7

https://luckeycards.com/1927ruth.jpg

Leon 07-15-2021 06:30 AM

E221
 
Always love the colors on these...

https://luckeycards.com/pe221master4x.jpg

mrreality68 07-15-2021 07:17 AM

Love this thread.

Makes me want to start hunt for rare and scarce cards

Thanks to all for sharing

Jobu 07-15-2021 07:53 AM

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The factory 8 overprint kicks this one up a notch.

molenick 07-15-2021 08:27 AM

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Four-time home run champ Harry Davis.

Exhibitman 07-15-2021 10:18 AM

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...a%20Vargas.jpg

1932 Doble Aguila from Venezuela with Tetelo Vargas, hit .471 in 1943. More:

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/juan-tetelo-vargas/

"Tetelo Vargas was a player with exceptional skills in nearly all aspects of the game. He hit for average, had good power for his physique, and was a superb defender. He possessed a strong throwing arm and superior speed – which won him the nickname El Gamo Dominicano, or “The Dominican Deer.” He was an excellent base-stealer as well. His complexion kept him on the wrong side of the major leagues’ color barrier – he was 41 when Jackie Robinson arrived. Yet Vargas accomplished much in more than three decades of professional baseball (1923-1956), a career that took him from his homeland to Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Cuba, Canada and the U.S. Negro Leagues. He is unequivocally recognized as the greatest Dominican player of his era. As Peter Bjarkman, historian of Latin American baseball, wrote, “The slender, wiry outfielder and shortstop. . . is without doubt the most accomplished Dominican native never to spend a single day in the majors.”"

puckpaul 07-15-2021 01:06 PM

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Not sure just how rare, but at a National many years ago picked up these supplements from St. Louis Republic on the Browns team. Havent seen any others. 8 x 11 sized. Stone and Pelty.

Casey2296 07-15-2021 07:29 PM

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A little west coast candy representation. 1 of 1.
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Exhibitman 07-16-2021 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by puckpaul (Post 2123458)
Not sure just how rare, but at a National many years ago picked up these supplements from St. Louis Republic on the Browns team. Havent seen any others. 8 x 11 sized. Stone and Pelty.

I love that sort of regional stuff.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...Maranville.jpg

seattlebaseball 07-16-2021 12:59 PM

Scarce "Type" Cards
 
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1924 Diaz Cigarettes card #1

Exhibitman 07-16-2021 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by seattlebaseball (Post 2123715)
1924 Diaz Cigarettes card #1

Yowza, that's a good one!

BeanTown 07-16-2021 05:20 PM

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One of my favorite Joe Jackson items

ValKehl 07-16-2021 10:32 PM

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yanksfan09 07-17-2021 04:55 AM

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Agree...


BeanTown 07-17-2021 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2123362)
Always love the colors on these...

https://luckeycards.com/pe221master4x.jpg

Those are awesome Leon!!!! The Weaver one is my favorite

Leon 07-19-2021 01:45 PM

Another BST purchase.

https://luckeycards.com/champshats.jpg

Exhibitman 07-19-2021 01:51 PM

That's a great premium, Leon. I remember when the lot was at auction.

Here is a true rarity:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img437.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img438.jpg

Something Feller didn't sign...This premium is pretty tough too:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img440.jpg

But signed.

To round things out, here is one that brought back childhood memories, though I'd never seen the actual premium before I picked up this one recently:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...%20premium.jpg

Ate a lot of those damn candy bars, though. Oh Henry!

Jobu 07-19-2021 06:47 PM

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A Bambino for Erick. :)

1920 Pathe Freres


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