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Rhotchkiss 05-24-2021 06:42 PM

Show your T206 freaks, errors, and scraps
 
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This thread goes out to a few Goonies I know....

I am sure there are (many) past threads on the topic, so apologies for the redundancy, but really what is one more T206 thread?!

Aside from the Magie, the Doyle NY Nat'l, and Brown Old Mills, I am not an error/scrap/freak collector, but I know there are many on here who are. There are also many new users who I thought may want to see some freaks and learn more about them.

Here are my only three error/freaks, all acquired because they have Brown Old Mill advertisements on them; and one has a Cy Young Portrait Ghost Image to boot.

Lets see those freaks, errors, and scraps!

jjp3rd 05-24-2021 06:44 PM

These are great, Ryan. Thanks for posting.


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obcmac 05-24-2021 06:59 PM

Arrived today!

https://photos.imageevent.com/obcmac...s%20front.jfif

brianp-beme 05-24-2021 06:59 PM

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These two are what I have to offer before much more impressive ones come down the pike. An offset Donovan with Donovan being both on top and bottom on front and portion of another card on the back, and a Magee Sweet Caporal 460 missing the overprint.

Brian

chriskim 05-24-2021 07:19 PM

is that Magee Sweet Caporal 460 missing the overprint very rare? To someone like me who isn't a Magee collector, I would have no clue at all.

fkm_bky 05-24-2021 07:48 PM

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Just won this off the Bay...to me it looks like a scrap given the uneven cut and off centeredness of the back. Thoughts on this? I don't have it in hand yet.

Bill

MVSNYC 05-24-2021 07:56 PM

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Ryan, Goonies Never Say Die! ;)

Your cards are amazing!

Here's a few I have...

Rhotchkiss 05-24-2021 08:29 PM

Thanks Mike and John.

Bill, it’s tough to see from the pic, but at least one edge looks a little wonky. I don’t think the OC on the back is relevant. Regardless, I don’t feel comfortable opining on your query, but there are plenty on here who will.

atx840 05-24-2021 08:34 PM

I like em weird.

Recently re-acquired the Willetts, thanks Mike!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a222835a_c.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7bb35856_c.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/5486/9...a9b8c8db_c.jpg

brianp-beme 05-24-2021 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriskim (Post 2106489)
is that Magee Sweet Caporal 460 missing the overprint very rare? To someone like me who isn't a Magee collector, I would have no clue at all.

I don't remember seeing on here, or elsewhere, another Sweet Caporal T206 of ANY player that is missing the overprint.

Then again, my memory and vision ain't what it used to be.

Brian

brianp-beme 05-24-2021 11:10 PM

The Donovan that MVSNYC posted is the Major League oddity compared to my minor league Donovan curiosity.

Brian

Ronnie73 05-25-2021 02:09 AM

Here's a few T206 scans I had available. I have other oddity type T206's but would need to dig them out and scan them. If I'm not working this summer, I'll be scanning my T206 collection and making the scans public.

Probably most of you have seen these a few times already. Hopefully the scans show up. I've been having issues posting scans. The scan sizes are no different than what I've used in the past and what I see others posting.

T206 Jack Powell Old Mill Blue Ink Back

http://www.myt206.com/net54/powellfront500.jpghttp://www.myt206.com/net54/powellback500.jpg

http://www.myt206.com/net54/s5cards.jpg

T206 Boss Schmidt with some type of inking error.

http://www.myt206.com/net54/t206error.jpg

T206 Rube Marquard Follow Through with Red 8 Print Mark

http://www.myt206.com/net54/marquardprintmark.jpg

T206 Complete Set of 28 Full Color Scrap "No Print" (Missing The Overprint) Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 (Group B Cards)

http://www.myt206.com/net54/noprintsset.png

nineunder71 05-25-2021 09:45 AM

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Ron, Wow!

Since someone has to follow that, here are a few odd balls, nothing spectacular, but I found these cool and I think they fit the bill

Cheers All

scooter729 05-25-2021 10:36 AM

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I think these qualify!

tedzan 05-25-2021 08:20 PM

Some Blank backs and some "scrap"......
. .https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ckSchulteX.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yBlankBack.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...nPROOFbb_1.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...kSchulteXb.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BlankBackb.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Cf30xscrap.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...p3x4Fac30x.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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stutor 05-25-2021 08:42 PM

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There are a few like this out there...

JCC 05-25-2021 09:01 PM

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Awesome thread, so many amazing cards! Here's probably my two favorite error cards I own...Knight (port) miscut and Knight (bat) missing color.

JCC 05-25-2021 09:07 PM

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I picked this one up recently. The most drastic miscut I have, and an ultra rare EPDG!

MVSNYC 05-25-2021 09:26 PM

Great additions to the thread- Chris, Sonny, Scott, etc, etc. Awesome stuff.

Kevin, the chain of ownership of the Knight Miscut...

Scott & Hank, Me, Wonka, Me again, You. Great example.

Jobu 05-25-2021 09:35 PM

Herzog looks hand cut to me.

There are a bunch of Sweet Cap cards that are missing their overprints and therefore are no prints:

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=245983

There was a large group of them that showed up on Ebay in 2016-2017 but for the life of me I cannot find that thread. Many of the cards that were missing the scroll were no prints (issued with the scroll but not without it) while the seller also had cards that were missing the scrolls and hand cut but that were issued both ways (I had a Herzog), so they were scraps too but not no prints.

Sean 05-25-2021 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie73 (Post 2106569)
Here's a few T206 scans I had available.

T206 Jack Powell Old Mill Blue Ink Back

When I clicked on this post I thought it said "Here's a few T206 that I have available" along with a picture of a Blue Old Mill. My head nearly exploded for a moment.

brianp-beme 05-26-2021 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 2106930)
Herzog looks hand cut to me.

There are a bunch of Sweet Cap cards that are missing their overprints and therefore are no prints:

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=245983

There was a large group of them that showed up on Ebay in 2016-2017 but for the life of me I cannot find that thread. Many of the cards that were missing the scroll were no prints (issued with the scroll but not without it) while the seller also had cards that were missing the scrolls and hand cut but that were issued both ways (I had a Herzog), so they were scraps too but not no prints.

Good to know, and I'm just glad I didn't post on that 3-1/2 year old thread you linked. Makes me feel better about my mental future.

Brian

Pat R 05-26-2021 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stutor (Post 2106918)
There are a few like this out there...

Along with Ryan's Brown Old Mill multi-overprints and Chris's Lash's over-print
these are my favorite t206 oddities.

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MVSNYC 05-26-2021 12:15 PM

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Here's another Blank Back Scrap (thanks Chuck!)...

steve B 05-26-2021 01:18 PM

No real differences from a production card, but almost for sure cut from a sheet.
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...pictureid=1877

The few blank backs I have. I don't have Ellam anymore, but I've just been too lazy to do new scans.
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...pictureid=1876

Weird miscut from debris on the sacrificial strip in the cutter.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...pictureid=7029

Downey and Lobert are from a lot on ebay that had 40+ years of sun exposure
Huggins is one from a group of normal 350's that are naturally very washed out.
Beck is missing two colors dark red and gray.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=18319

Pat R 05-26-2021 03:55 PM

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hand cut Atz missing colors
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Weird looking Stahl with an odd cut
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Willett with an odd factory flaw
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Eddiez 05-26-2021 04:21 PM

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Here's a few of mine.

Rhotchkiss 05-26-2021 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 2107171)
hand cut Atz missing colors
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Weird looking Stahl with an odd cut
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Willett with an odd factory flaw
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Pat, I have an Atz Polar Bear scrap if interested...

deadballera 05-26-2021 05:09 PM

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also listed for sale in the BST....this ghost

Ronnie73 05-26-2021 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 2106940)
When I clicked on this post I thought it said "Here's a few T206 that I have available" along with a picture of a Blue Old Mill. My head nearly exploded for a moment.

My mind does the same thing at times. Because you get used to certain words together and that's how you see it during the first read. No current plans to sell it but I'd sure like to get it graded at some point. Probably with SGC since the other two Blue Old Mill's were graded by them.

tedzan 05-26-2021 06:30 PM

An assortment of color printing errors......

Let's start with the "leader" of the Elite 11 group, Carl Lundgren. Note that his 4th card is missing blue ink (in the 6-color printing process).


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...n4versions.jpg
.https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...n4versions.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign50x.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...geYellow50.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ereign350x.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...nklingpink.jpg



TED Z

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t206kid 05-26-2021 07:21 PM

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Here's a pedestrian but very mangled Dahlen

mrvster 05-26-2021 08:18 PM

Haha
 
Yes!!!

now this is a post:eek:

I just saw about half the cards I used to own literally:D

I will post tomorrow of some of my remaining snowflakes....

:D

Pat R 05-27-2021 02:25 PM

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Here's a few more.

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Blunder19 05-27-2021 10:15 PM

Scrap!
 
The 5 musketeers.... reunited 100 years later from the same sheet...

https://i.imgur.com/jGfZrmEh.jpg

Pat R 05-28-2021 05:39 AM

That's neat Jamie I didn't remember that the one had the top of another
Seymour on it.

Marslife 05-28-2021 10:54 AM

Red Piedmont
 
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Red Piedmont back - unfortunately it is a T42 lol...

Just a matter of time B4 a Red Piedmont T206 shows up?

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MVSNYC 05-28-2021 02:04 PM

Cliff, that's quite fascinating. And maybe that's the printer's hand created mark (the black line)?

Luke 05-28-2021 03:05 PM

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One of my favorites, and the grade always makes me laugh

Eric72 05-28-2021 07:07 PM

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Minor oddity - wet sheet transfer. Neat that the factory number shows on the front, too.

vthobby 05-28-2021 09:11 PM

Wow!
 
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Nice cards guys! Got this in mail today! Name on top Cobbie! Yay! :) Thanks Renay! :)

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chriskim 05-29-2021 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by vtgmsc (Post 2107949)
Nice cards guys! Got this in mail today! Name on top Cobbie! Yay! :) Thanks Renay! :)

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Oh.. this Cobb would be a nice addition to that Cobb run. This is going to be a 5 figure Cobb!

vthobby 05-29-2021 09:12 AM

:)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chriskim (Post 2108001)
Oh.. this Cobb would be a nice addition to that Cobb run. This is going to be a 5 figure Cobb!

Chris,

No, I'm keeping Mr. Cobb but yes it would be cool in Jamie's run however that collection is a "Back" run and he has a Polar Bear back already! Thanks! Fun card!

Mike

Gradedcardman 05-29-2021 09:14 AM

Uppy Down HOF
 
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Great card I have had for awhile. Would consider selling for the right price OR prefer trading towards AB460's I need...

vthobby 05-29-2021 09:15 AM

Pic?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradedcardman (Post 2108060)
Great card I have had for awhile. Would consider selling for the right price OR prefer trading towards AB460's I need...

Pic Adam?

atx840 06-01-2021 01:06 PM

Let's see some more oddballs.

https://live.staticflickr.com/3675/9...c574b21a_b.jpg

Marslife 06-01-2021 02:20 PM

Double backed Leach?
 
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purchased as is at the Pittsburgh Card show a few years back?

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Jobu 06-01-2021 04:01 PM

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I love that Bender Adam!

Here are two minor oddities, Moriarity missing ink (available) and a Davis that I think had a mixup on the light gray layer to add contrast and instead got a much darker shade that makes it look like there is a smoky fire behind him.

stutor 06-01-2021 04:08 PM

Helm Multistrike
 
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Here is another of the Southern Leaguers with the Brown OM, EPDG and Piedmont 350 multistrike back. The player on the back is Ganley which I find to be interesting (both Ganley and Schaefer are Elite 11 players). These seem (to me at least) to represent the transition from the 150 series to the 350 series, but I will let the experts chime in.

Rhotchkiss 06-01-2021 04:16 PM

That awesome Sonny.

stutor 06-01-2021 04:27 PM

Thank you Ryan. Your Mullaney is the ULTIMATE scrap. I’m hoping posting a third will stimulate some interesting discussion that may bleed over into Pat’s ledger thread.

atx840 06-01-2021 04:46 PM

Fantastic card Sonny!

I've attempted to break down the different layers.

https://i.imgur.com/U2LLLrR.png

stutor 06-01-2021 04:54 PM

That’s amazing Chris. Your skills truly blow my mind. I appreciate you unraveling the clutter.

t206fanatic 06-01-2021 05:28 PM

Amazing card Sonny, & amazing work on the deconstruct Chris!

Rhotchkiss 06-01-2021 07:09 PM

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Chris, can you deconstruct the Mullaney (again)? Thanks in advance

Oh, and here are a few blank backs and one proof

atx840 06-01-2021 07:37 PM

matty proof :eek::eek:

https://i.imgur.com/IDkPjZP.png

stutor 06-01-2021 07:48 PM

That Matty proof is insane...one of the best T206 in existence IMO. Wow. And the Mullaney is the most amazing ‘scrap’ I’ve ever seen. Kudos.

Rhotchkiss 06-01-2021 07:55 PM

Nice Chris!!! Thanks. And thanks Sonny.

Ronnie73 06-01-2021 08:17 PM

Incredible cards everyone!! Nice work Chris on the separation of layers on those cards.

MVSNYC 06-01-2021 09:49 PM

Shit just got real in here.

Sonny, The Helm scrap is incredible. Ryan, amazing.

And Chris, I always love seeing your deconstruction work!

chriskim 06-02-2021 05:35 AM

Pretty sure Sonny's insane scrap will end up in Ryan's collection. :D

Pat R 06-02-2021 09:00 AM

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Matty McIntyre split back with part of a Killian portrait back.


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Sean 06-02-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 2109334)
matty proof :eek::eek:

https://i.imgur.com/IDkPjZP.png

Chris, it's clear that one of those upside down yellow panels is designed to be part of the Cy Young portrait. Has anyone ever figured out what player the other yellow panel was intended for?

Pat R 06-02-2021 11:12 AM

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Sean, it's Mullin.

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chriskim 06-02-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 2109493)


Don't seem like an exact match of Mullin.... hmm..

atx840 06-02-2021 12:06 PM

Yep it's Mullin. I recreate each layer manually using other scans/images and they are definitely not 100% accurate/matching.

I used the original T206 image for the Young ghost

https://i.imgur.com/bOfvmMU.png
https://i.imgur.com/puMja4p.gif

Best scan I have of the Young
https://i.imgur.com/VYGJmk0.png

chriskim 06-02-2021 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 2109507)
Yep it's Mullin. I recreate each layer manually using other scans/images and they are definitely not 100% accurate/matching.

I used the original T206 image for the Young ghost

https://i.imgur.com/bOfvmMU.png
https://i.imgur.com/puMja4p.gif

Best scan I have of the Young
https://i.imgur.com/VYGJmk0.png


wow.. u created those single images one by one? I thought u have some kind of software that can separate out each pigment like those machine museum uses to inspect documents from thousands yr ago.

irishdenny 06-02-2021 01:21 PM

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How do you follow up what jus was seen ?

MVSNYC 06-02-2021 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriskim (Post 2109401)
Pretty sure Sonny's insane scrap will end up in Ryan's collection. :D

Doubt it.

Sean 06-02-2021 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 2109567)
Doubt it.

+1 Ryan already has a Helm/ Old Mill Brown, and he doesn't care about the rest of the back.

Sean 06-02-2021 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 2109493)

Thanks Pat, I can see that now.

MVSNYC 06-02-2021 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 2109636)
+1 Ryan already has a Helm/ Old Mill Brown, and he doesn't care about the rest of the back.

Plus I doubt Sonny would part with it.

Rhotchkiss 06-02-2021 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 2109636)
+1 Ryan already has a Helm/ Old Mill Brown, and he doesn't care about the rest of the back.

Correct. I like the brown OM, the multi-strike is bonus, and I have a Helm Brown OM. And I agree Mike, Sonny is unlikely to part with it anyway

Chris, your image skills are very impressive. I barely know how to post a regular picture!

MVSNYC 06-03-2021 11:54 AM

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Recently re-acquired the Mitchell Proof, thanks Chris!

MVSNYC 06-08-2021 08:20 PM

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Thanks to Adam for a great trade.

(This is an older scan, before the card was flipped over in the slab, I think Wonka had that done with this, and several other error/printing freak cards, many years ago).

RCFire82 08-07-2021 08:27 AM

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Recently picked up this Street. Pondering whether to keep or sell it, as it's a Piedmont back and I'm working towards an off-back set...
I wasn't able to find much in the way of comparisons. There was a two-faced Hugh Duffy recently on bst, but that was a graded, Sovereign, HOFer, with the name shifted as well...Any thoughts on how to classify this (ghost, shift, etc.)? Any thoughts on possible added value for the rarity?
Thanks!
-Ryan

nineunder71 08-07-2021 08:48 AM

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MVSNYC 08-07-2021 09:08 AM

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Nice cards, guys.

Ryan, that's a printing "shift" (not a ghost), and a great one at that.

Nice to see this thread revived. Here's a few other printing errors I have...

Aquarian Sports Cards 08-07-2021 03:34 PM

Just got a Young Bare Hand with name on top on consignment. Not the craziest thing I've seen but a good clean name on top with nothing on bottom, so a nice example.

atx840 08-07-2021 04:10 PM

Love the Piedmont/Tolstoi Graham, great card Mike!


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