Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

Too much consternation over "plastics" going on here lately on this forum. And, not enough said regarding the "cardboard" gems
we love so much. Therefore, let's bring back some joy here by "Talkin' BB" cards again. Show us your favorites and tell us a story
about them. I will start with these 9 gems of mine. Feel free to post as many of your favorite Tobacco cards as you would like.


The GOODWIN CHAMPIONS (N162) set is my favorite set. It is Sports Lithography at it's best.
All together I have completed 3 of these sets in the process of upgrading my original 50- card
set (which I started in 1989).
King Kelly is my favorite card, followed by Anson. The GOODWIN CHAMPIONS Album is absolutely my all-time favorite.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ansonkelly.jpg---- https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan.../A36 cover.jpg



Here's my 1st T206 card (acquired at Willow Grove in 1981). This image of Chase really appeals
to me. I remember as a kid reading that Babe Ruth said Chase was the best 1st Baseman in BB.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...aseblue50x.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...seblue50xb.jpg



My ole buddy (and co-author) Ralph Triplette found this rare BROAD LEAF Chase in a hobby shop
in his hometown in the the Smokey Mtn. region of N.C. I said it is "rare", because when we did a
trade for it, it was the only one known (circa 1994).

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ChaseBlueX.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...0blueChase.jpg



Here's another extremely tough to find Chase card. There is only one 1910 COUPON card of Chase
listed in the PSA pop report (and I think it is this card). Perhaps our resident 1910 COUPON "King"
Rob McKenzie will chime in on this.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...onCHASEx25.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ueChase25b.jpg



In 1996, I acquired a bunch of T213-1 cards. Sold most of them at the Philly Show. Of course I kept this Chase,
for it certainly was he nicest card in the lot.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...haseT213x3.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...aseT213x3b.jpg



More recently, I won this "toughie" from a Heritage Auction in 2016. I only need his CAROLINA BRIGHTS and CYCLE 460
cards to complete this Chase run.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50b.jpg



This McGraw was printed in the 460-only Series. It is one of 12 subjects in this Series which I refer to as the Exclusive 12.
To find these cards with a UZIT back is virtually impossible. To date, only 5 of these 12 subjects have been confirmed with
UZIT. My McGraw is one of a kind....it is unique.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...UZITxSGC30.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...loveUZITxb.jpg



And, last but not least.....

Eddie Plank finally completes my SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #30 T206 set (468 cards).

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nkSC150x30.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SC150x30xb.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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Ted, SGC has 6 T213-1 Hal Chase portraits on their pop report, not sure if it is accurate or not. I used to have these 2 lower grade raw ones. I still have one, and traded the other to a Chase collector on here.

I can't pick only 7 cards, but here are a few that are fun to have...My memory is not the best, but the story of the T213-3 Chance is... around 1982 at a motel show next to the Astrodome, my Dad bought the card for me. I had it until the mid 90's and traded it away. I was able to buy it back a few short years later, realizing my mistake.

Here are some tobacco flavored favorites, 7 picked amongst a bunch of others vying for attention.

T206 Mathewson - because it was in the first group of vintage cards I purchased.

T210 Old Mill Mulldowney - because I like his attitude

T206 Lefty Leifield - because I have always loved the colors and pose

T207 Hoff - because of its scarcity and especially the Barker back notations

Obaks - because Obak cards are just plain amazing

Gypsy Queen Connor - because I always thought this was an Old Judge card, and after posting here was informed that it was actually a Gypsy Queen

Brian


Brian

Here are a few of my favorite T cards in my collection. No big stories behind some of them.

1. The T215 Red Cross - I never thought I would own this card. It's the only graded example of the Billy Purtell Jersey City card so I'm very excited to have him in my Jersey City collection.

2. T206 Jack Hannifin - My first ever T206 and also a Jersey City player. This is the card that started my Jersey City collection.

3. C46 Butler - not a T card but still a tobacco card from Canada and, again, part of the Jersey City collection.

4. T206 Walsh. I just really like this card in the set and it's a nice HOFer.

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T206 White Border Molesworth (the ONLY Birmingham Baron in the entire set) - All collections need at least one T206
T205 Gold Border Speaker (HOF centerfielder) - love the distinct designs for American League, National League and Minor League players
T227 Series of Champions de Oro - underappreciated set that covers many sports including baseball, billiards, boxing, golf and racing...hoping to discover that final 25th card design

Claude Berry collection
 

One of my favorite items is my T4 Obak Cabinet. Here is the T4 Cabinet with several T212s and a Studio Cabinet of Claude Berry.

Another favorite is my Joseph Laughlin Old Mill Cabinet with his T210 Old Mill card.


Patrick

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

Good morning Rob

Great stuff, guy. Thanks for posting your cards, and story.

I modified this thread's title to allow an unlimited amount of cards (etc.) that you can post.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Some of my favorites
 

Some of these are beaters, but that is OK with me. :)

I saw the T215-1 Leifield above, so had to add my type 2Attachment 453742
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For my money the best looking cards of the era are the T218 boxers

My favorite is the T215 pirate because they are crazy rare, I love pirates, and they have T206 fronts.

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My next favorite T206 portrait card (2nd to Chase) is the Walter Johnson. I have several WJ portrait cards, but this one has an interesting story.
Most of you who know me, know I am not a fan of graded cards. Circa 2004, I decided to get it graded, since it appeared to be one of my nicest
T206 cards.
At the Philly Show, PSA was grading cards. So, I submitted this WJ to them. They returned it to me with an "evidence of trimming"" note. I was
furious, and PSA's manager told me...."that's your opinion ! Our professional opinion is, it is trimmed !"
SGC was situated at the far end of the Fort Washington showroom. I brought this WJ card to SGC. They graded it a "40". And pointed out to me
that there was a very faint trace of glue on its back. Which viewed under magnification was evident. This experience taught me to trust SGC.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ohsonSGC40.jpg




The AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back is my favorite T-brand. Circa 2005, I started my run of these T206's (74 cards). This back is under-rated in my opinion.
It's been a long work in progress. Eight years ago, though, my major acquisition was this Cobb. Thanks to Jay Miller (old judge). He contacted me, since
he was breaking up his run of Cobb (bat off shoulder) cards. Several years before, I helped Jay get started on this run. I now have 73 (of the 74) AB 460
cards. Still searching for one.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ffAB460x50.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...obbbat50xb.jpg



Hey guys....let's continue "Talkin' BB" cards and posting more BB cards.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Pinkerton
 

Collins

Good luck on that last AB460, Ted. I know that back is very underrated. There are so many very low pop cards to that run.



A board member discovered this previously unknown card of Mickey Welch and I was able to buy it from him. There was a long discussion about whether this card is an un-checklisted N284. Most people came away calling it a "Buchner-like" card. It has a blank back, maybe skinned, or maybe cut from an ad poster. I keep it with my other N284's. Here is an N284 Keefe for comparison.

Great Thread.

Some amazing cards.

I feel left out. I have No tobacco cards.

I will have to try and rectify that soon

Some MINOs

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

Hi Leon

Really sharp looking Pinkerton of Eddie Collins.

Thanks for posting it.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

Rob

You come this far, and just one more to find (that cannot be found). I know exactly how you feel, with respect to Rhoades (your 1910 COUPON set).


TED Z

T206 Reference
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As a note of interest - I acquired the Walter Johnson T213 card from the infamous eBay seller known as Battlefield Vintage. I guess they weren't totally corrupt yet in their earlier selling days.

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

Hi Ryan

Nice looking T216 cards.

Here are my American Caramel versions of the Wagner cards.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7.../batwagner.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rfranknagy.jpg



Here's my only T216 card.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ottonchase.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ottonchase.jpg

TED Z

T206 Reference
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My #1 collecting focus is cards of all the players who were on the Washington Senators 1924 World Series Championship team. Many players on this team, such as HOFer Sam Rice, appear on no tobacco cards. Fortunately, in 1924, a Cuban tobacco company produced a set of 136 cards of American pitchers, many of whom appear on few or no other cards. Below are pics of the 1924 Diaz cards (N258 per the ACC) in my collection. I'll pay or trade strong for any Diaz cards of Senators that I don't have - the following are known to exist (there may be others): #110 Paul Zahnizer, #131 George Mogridge & #??? Fred Marberry. I'm also interested in upgrades for my poor-condition cards.

Nice cards everyone! Here are "7" of my favorites!

I purchased a find of nearly 100 raw T204 Ramly's about 8 years ago and this was one of the cards which was mixed in the hoard.

https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...sgc70front.jpg

T206 HOF portraits have long been my main focus. I'm a stickler for proper image registration and color. Here are a few.

https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...portfront1.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...portfront1.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...rontsgc4_1.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...ontpollard.jpg

I started a T205 HOF run about a year ago due to the amazing colors that the cards display. It truly is an amazing set!

https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...205cobbfrt.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...lsht2053_1.jpg

Those are some stunning T206's, Tony!

Tony, I covet your T204 WaJo - NICE!

My contribution

I probably have fewer than a dozen T-cards but I'll throw my hat in the ring. One of my favorite cards is the 1909 Johnson, took a long time to find a card that fit my idea of a perfect T206 Johnson. I also like the near perfect registration on the Speaker. The T217's Mono's are a favorite too.
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I will contribute a T5 of Collins with a different pose.

A few additional 1924 Senators appeared on tobacco cards. Some of my favorites are shown below:

Walter Johnson - After losing his 2 starts in Games 1 and 5 against the powerful NY Giants, he was the winning pitcher in relief in the 12th inning of Game 7 after pitching 4 shutout innings.

Clark Griffith - I include Griffith in my collection because he was the GM and majority owner of the 1924 Senators.

George Mogridge - One of the unsung heroes of the 1924 WS, 35-year-old Mogridge started Game 4, pitched 7.1 innings giving up 2 earned runs, and was the winning pitcher. This is the only WS game the Senators won at NY. In Game 7, manager Bucky "The Boy Wonder" Harris started righty Warren "Curly" Ogden to get John McGrew to start his left-hitting lineup; after a strike out and a walk, Harris brought in lefty Mogridge who pitched 4.2 innings, holding the Giants to 1 earned run.

Roger Peckinpaugh - The Senators' shortstop had a 17-year MLB career, mostly with the NY Yankees. He was named the AL MVP for 1925. He managed the Cleveland Indians for several years after his playing career ended. The following is taken from SABR's bio of Peckinpaugh:
"The veteran shortstop teamed with the young second baseman Bucky Harris to form one of the best double play combinations in the American League. Everything fell into place by the 1924 season when owner Griffith appointed Harris the manager. Harris considered Peck his assistant manager, and together they led the Senators to back-to-back pennants in 1924 and 1925. Peck was a hero of the 1924 World Series, hitting .417 and slugging .583, including a game-winning, walk-off double in Game 2. However, while running to second base (unnecessarily) on that hit, Peckinpaugh strained a muscle in his left thigh, which sidelined him for most of Game 3 and all of Games 4 and 5. But in what Shirley Povich called 'the gamest exhibition I ever saw on a baseball field,' Peckinpaugh took the field for Game 6 with his leg heavily bandaged and went 2-for-2 with a walk before re-aggravating the injury making a brilliant, game-saving defensive play in the ninth inning. Although Peckinpaugh had to sit out Game 7, he had already done more than his share to bring the Senators their first world championship."

"Oyster Joe" Martina - 1924 was Martina's only year in the majors. He had a 6 - 8 won-loss record and a 4.67 ERA with the Senators. However, he won 322 games (vs. 254 losses) during his 21 years in the minors. Martina pitched 1 scoreless inning in the 1924 WS.

William "Pinky" Hargrave - He was a back-up catcher who played very sparingly in 1924, and did not appear in the WS. He played with Minneapolis of the Am. Assn. in 1934-36, during which time his Worch Cigar cards shown below were produced. His older brother, Eugene "Bubbles" Hargrave, also was a MLB catcher.

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Hi Ted,

Love the N162s as well but can't decide between those and N43's so I'll post one of each.

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

Hi Scott

Yes indeed, you have to love those N162's. Your Andrews is a real beauty....I think he may be the first Phillies card in color.

Also, I recall you having a great looking T206 set. Any favorites from it ?


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Hi Ted,

Sadly, I chose to let go of my T206 near set several years ago but here are three of my favorites from the set.

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

Hi Tony

Some great looking cards, and especially your T204 Walter Johnson.

Thanks for posting them.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Great cards everyone. I like big top borders, with normal other borders, on T206s...

https://luckeycards.com/t206master2d.jpg

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

T3......my favorite action pose

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...3Doolan25x.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Doolan25xB.jpg



T201......certainly my favorite in my set

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...01wjohnson.jpg



T202......


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...sonxknight.jpg




T204

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...llOHare25x.jpg



T205......my favorite T205 guy....and with a very rare PIEDMONT Factory #42 back

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Piedmont42.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...edmont42bx.jpg



T207......my favorite T207

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...etHoffT207.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...tHoffT207b.jpg



T209-1......My favorite in this complete set of 16 colorful cards

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...nT209xPSA3.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...T209xPSA3b.jpg



T210....love these fat-bordered T210's


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...10FisherFB.jpg



T211......Needless to say, RED SUN BB cards are really tough to find

------https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...duRedSun25.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...uRedSun25b.jpg


T212......two of the most popular T212's

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...erObak1911.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...TenMillion.jpg



1910 COUPON......in my "book" these guys are indeed T206's

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...everschase.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...schase25xb.jpg




TED Z

T206 Reference
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Ted, Matthew, Val - Thank you fellas! Much appreciated!

This has been a fun thread filled with cardboard goodness!

Here are a few more of my favorites - keep em' coming.........

https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...wallace2_1.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...5clarke2_1.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...5bender2_1.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...tpollard_1.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...tpollard_1.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/threet...tpollard_1.jpg

I love this thread. Here are some of mine.

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

T213-2....."Turkey" Mike Donlin is one of my favorite guys in every set of the "Deadball" era.
Had he taken his BB career more seriously, he would have been in the HOF.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...nlinBatx50.jpg




T212-3......Chase is absolutely my favorite. Incidentally, here's a ? for anyone on this forum....Why were T213-3 cards cut so narrow ?
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https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...haseT213x3.jpg




T214......still looking for a VICTORY card of Chase

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ctorychase.jpg




T215-1......traded away what few RED CROSS BB cards I had. Now, searching for more

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dCross50xb.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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Ted, I have two t215-1s, and I only “need” one. Shoot me an email and maybe we can do a trade/deal for the Marquard

My favorite tobacco cards are those stuck in their original collections...https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1619928611

A couple more red boarders

The N162's are some of my favorites, but I think my absolute favorites are my 2 Old Judge King Kelly cards:

https://tanmanbaseballfan.com/wp-con...12/mykelly.jpg

https://tanmanbaseballfan.com/wp-con.../kingkelly.jpg

I also love ALL Goodwin A35 Rounds, but John Ward just might be my favorite:

https://tanmanbaseballfan.com/wp-con...-1-600x700.jpg

Original album & custom wood sign
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzWeaatU...jpg&name=large

Another custom sign with set
https://tanmanbaseballfan.com/wp-con...413_162503.jpg

and another ...
https://tanmanbaseballfan.com/wp-con...413_163106.jpg

finally, some custom wood signs of some of my favorites ....
https://tanmanbaseballfan.com/wp-con.../woodsigns.jpg

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

Really great stuff guys. Keep on posting your pictures & stories, so this thread stays on the front page.


I will continue this exposition by displaying my complete set of the GOODWIN CHAMPIONS (N162).


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...arsN162bbx.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...162boxbill.jpg


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...njockoarmX.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ssbike7xxx.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

This is an amazing (and colorful) collection of yours....thanks for sharing it with us.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Thank you, Ted!

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

The Brothers DELAHANTY


My favorite T206 Minor League guy, Frank....1905-1908, 1914-1915. Arrayed as what I refer to as the A -B C D T-brands connection.

. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ntyABCDx50.jpg
. .http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tyABCDx50b.jpg




Jim…… 1901-1902, 1904-1912, 1914-1915

This Tobacco card is the only one I've seen with DELAHANTY spelled correctly.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...mDELAHANTY.jpg




Joe…… 1907-1909

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lahantyC46.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ahantyC46b.jpg




Tom….1894, 1896-1897

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...mDelahanty.jpg




And, big brother Ed…... 1888-1903

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...hillies50x.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

I consider Mr. Lundgren the Elite of the "ELITE 11" group in the 150/350 Series of the T206 set. I have a sentimental attachment to his EPDG card.
It was the first tough Back in my T206 collection. I acquired this card in 1984 from our ole buddy, Barry Sloate. He was a a great source of T206's.

Lundgren (Cubs) was printed with only 3 backs. I've included here my "blue-less" printing error that was in a large T206 find of mine 14 years ago.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...n4versions.jpg
.https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...n4versions.jpg


Some remarkable stuff on display in this thread, guys. Continue posting your cards and your stories.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Ted, I'll help keep your thread alive with 3 of my favorite tobacco type cards from the 19th century:

Great cards Val, thanks for sharing.

Great Cards Val!

Also nice to see so many Monos in this thread.

Patrick - Love the Old Mill cabinet!

https://baseballcardresource.com/for..._SGCA_3200.jpg

Phil & Dan, thanks for the kind words.

A couple of Cobb Piedmont 42s
 

The red portrait Piedmont 42 is my wife’s. She bought it a few years ago. I just acquired the Bat Off Piedmont 42 recently and now the red portrait has a pal to hang out with in our bank box

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

In his book titled "Inside T206", Scot Reader identifies the 6 guys displayed here as the " SUPER-PRINTS "
Scot Reader's excellent research revealed that these six subjects were printed in greater quantities (and with more Tobacco brands) than any other
T206 subjects in the set.
These 6 subjects fascinate me, simply because American Lithographic (ALC) introduced a new Series in the T206 print runs....the 350/460 Series.
ALC selected from the 350-only Series these six subjects, which they printed with SOVEREIGN 460 backs during the printing phase of the 460-only
Series cards.
Please note that the SOVEREIGN 460 versions of these 6 subjects are very tough to find relative to the regular subjects in the 460-only Series.

Shown here are the Six Super-Prints with their SOVEREIGN 350 backs and their SOVEREIGN 460 backs......

The Red Cobb with the SOVEREIGN 460 back is very, very tough to find.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...obbSGCx50b.jpg


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...RedCobb25x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ign350x25b.jpg ------- https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...gn350x25bk.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...gn350x25xx.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cematty25x.jpg............http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...verssov460.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ematty25xy.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...verssov460.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...luechasedk.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...asedkcap_1.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Here are a couple of group shots, first some portrait T206 cards with red and orange backgrounds, and then some portraits in the 1910/11 Obak sets. The players don't have to be superstars...great looking tobacco cards of non-HOF players are pretty special too.

Brian

My Fave is the Coupon Type 1 T213’s...
 

My favorite to collect over the years has been the exceptionally rare and paper thin T206, ur, I mean T213-1 Coupon’s. Especially the Southern Leaguers!

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

Hey Jeremy......you got to love those 1910 COUPON cards. I have 25% of the set; however, there is no way that I will ever complete this set.
But, it's the thrill of the hunt that really fascinates me about these seldom seen mysterious tobacco cards.


Here are the six T206 Super Prints with the 1910 COUPON advertisement.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...poncobb50x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edCobb75xb.jpg


I recently sold my Chance to a good buddy on Net54 who is working on the ultimate Chance run.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...uponChance.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...onChanceBx.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...everschase.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...schase25xb.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sedkcap38x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...apChase50b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Coupons
 

Thanks Ted! I love those Coupon Type 1's as well! Coincidentally, 80% of the Southern League Type 1 Coupons are For Sale in current REA Auction. (16 of 20). That would be a Big step toward your completion of the Coupon Type 1's! Some of the Highest Graded examples known as well!! ;)

A cornerstone of the collection - purchased years ago right here on Net54.

This is my only Coupon. The McGraw in the middle

More of my Favorites... Type 1 T213 Coupon's
 

More of my Favorites... Type 1 T213 Coupon Tobacco cards. Extremely rare and paper thin. (Hold a raw one in your hand and it's a wonder they survived) Perhaps, one day they will be recognized as a part of T206 catalog brand of tobacco brands....:rolleyes:

Fun thread! Here is a colorful type 2

I love seeing all the T213-1s! Here are more Monos.

Tobacco is great in a corn Cobb pipe!

Show-n-Tell which Tobacco cards you have are your favorites, post as many as you like
 

The red HINDU backs are my 3rd favorite T206 brands. American Lithographic printed red HINDU backs on 47 subjects in the T206 set.
The 35 subjects in the 350/460 Series with HINDU are quite scarce. However, the 12 subjects in the 460-only Series are relatively easy
to find. I proved this, by concentrating on a run of of these 12. In less than 2 months, I acquired 11 of the 12. The Sheckard card, though
took almost a year to acquire.


Here are the Exclusive 12 in the 460-only Series............


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUsgcX.jpg
.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50b.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUsgcB.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rdSheckard.jpg
.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SheckardBk.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DuffyRHx50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...andilRHx50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...INDUxSGC30.jpg
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TED Z

T206 Reference
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To my knowledge there are only 44 confirmed Red Hindu's.

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Hey guys,

American Lithographic printed 35 subjects in the 350/460 Series simultaneously with the red HINDU
and SWEET CAPORAL 350-460 Factory #42 backs.

On a separate sheet American Litho printed 12 subjects from the 460-only Series with the red HINDU
and SWEET CAPORAL 350-460 Factory #42 backs.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/rh.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tCap460x42.jpg


350/460 Series Checklist.…...35 subjects

Ames (hands over head) ..……………..*
Baker
Bender (no trees)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Chance (portrait-yellow}
Chase (portrait-blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (portrait-red)
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)

Konetchy (glove low)
Magee (bat)
Mathewson (dark cap) ....……………….*
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
Murphy (batting)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Reulbach (no glove) ......………………..*
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (fielding)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
CYoung (glove)

Note..... * These subjects have yet to be confirmed with the red HINDU back.

In recent years, Dougherty, Joss, and Murphy have been discovered with Red HINDU backs; therefore,
I fully expect Ames, Matty, and Reulbach will eventually be confirmed.

If anyone on this forum is willing to make a bet on this ? I will give them 2 to 1 odds that these 3 guys
will be discovered.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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What kind of bet is that it's a no win for anyone taking it. You can't prove that they weren't printed it could be ten years later with none of them
discovered and you could just say they were printed but none have showed up yet. There hasn't been a new Red Hindu confirmation in 7 years.

I could say Honus Wagner was printed with a Sovereign 150 back but it's so rare one hasn't showed up yet.

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Hey Guys,

Circa 2010 on Net54, I presented my theory regarding the "split-personality" of the T206 350/460 Series cards in their latter print runs (Winter 1910 to
Spring 1911). Group A comprising of 35 subjects. Group B comprising of 28 subjects. And, this theory has withstood the test of time.

In 2010......Ames, Dougherty, Mathewson, Murphy and Reulbach had NOT yet been confirmed with the red HINDU back. Back then, I predicted that these
5 guys would eventually be discovered with red HINDU backs. Subsequently, Dougherty and Murphy were discovered. The other 3 remain to be seen.

Here is a record of one of my predictions....that of Danny Murphy (batting) will be discovered with a red HINDU back......

Dated 4-19-2010


Look guys.....I try to inform, educate, or simply encourage thought regarding the complexities of the T206 set. I really appreciate all your
positive responses, phone calls, emails, etc. since 2005. But, there are one (or 2) on this forum that get their kicks playing the "negative"
game. And, I have tried (more or less) to play the tolerance game in dealing with their comments.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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It's funny how many times you use the negative game comment Ted. It's not a negative game I just find it a little offensive when you state your opinion
as fact. I'm not saying the three subjects you pointed out weren't printed with a Red Hindu but anyone who follows the t206 set closely knows there
are many inconsistences in the set and you can't assume anything.

Your Murphy prediction date should be 4-19-2010.

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Pat

My research indicates that the printing of the various T206 series from the Summer of 1910 to the Spring of 1911 have very few "inconsistences".
In fact, there are definite logical patterns in the printing process during that period. These patterns are addressed in.... T206 Reference

Thanks for bringing it to my attention, that I typed the date "2020", instead of "2010" in my prior post. It has been corrected.


TED Z
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I agree there are patterns in the printing during that time period just as there are patterns through out the set but there are still some inconsistences.
There may be fewer in the 350/460 and 460 only printings but one factor is that those two series only account for 1/5 of the set.



In the same thread you predicted the Murphy Red Hindu you also posted this

Speaking of T206 Inconsistences from 1909-11....
 

Speaking of T206 inconsistencies from 1909-11, there are many folks out there that believe the T213-1 Coupon's should be part of the T206 collection of various Tobacco backs. 1910, Tobacco back, exact same design as the rest of the T206 tobacco backs, with only 1 slight variation (sorta like an American Beauty which is cut narrower in width, only the Coupon is cut narrower in depth) Cough, cough.... I digress - Love these Uber rare rascals!

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Hi Jeremy

You and I (and some T206 collectors on this forum) agree that the 1910 COUPON cards should be included in the family of the T206 tobacco brands.

The ones who disagree with us are unaware that these cards were NOT meant to be "stiffiners" in cigarette packs. The initial offering of the COUPON
cigarettes was in rectangular cartons containing 200 (or more) loose cigarettes.....circa 1909 - 1910).
Many of the cards were inserted in these cartons, while others were pasted on the outside of the carton. Hence, the paper loss on the backs of some
of these cards (e.g. my Cobb).]

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...poncobb50x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edCobb75xb.jpg



Further proof of this is evident on my Doolan card which has cardboard residue on it from being pasted on a cigarette carton.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...UPONDoolan.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...PONDoolanB.jpg




Whatever, here is my nicest 1910 COUPON card. If I am lucky, the stupid TPG's will probably grade it only a "2" (or perhaps a "1.5").

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Willett50x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Willett38b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Wouldn't mind adding a T205 WaJo and Matty in the future.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10116

T206's are just too addictive. lol!

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Here's something to consider concerning the T213's. The original American Lithograph journal that was discovered covers the years of 1909-1912.
In the journal it has instructions on what to insert in the cigarette packs and cartons. There are 45 brands in the journal including all the t206 brands
Coupon cigarettes isn't included in the 45 brands in the ALC journal.

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Jeremy

I have already bid on all your Southern Leaguers, and I will be checking them out when the auction ends this weekend.

It's quite interesting that the majority of 1910 COUPON cards are graded "1" or "2". My Matty is a "2"....but, in my opinion it deserves a "3".


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...onmatty75x.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...nmatty75xb.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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For a few reasons I have always thought the t213-1's were printed after they stopped printing the t206's. If they were printed at the same time why would they use a different cardboard stock, I know they're rare but if they were printed at the same time why wouldn't we see a couple of T213's that were printed on the thicker stock by mistake or t206's on the thinner stock printed by mistake. There have also been many finds that have a mix of a few scarce backs like Broad Leaf and Lenox but I don't recall any that had t213's.

I think the ledger pages from the journal might be the best evidence that they were printed later. The dates are from early 1909 to 1912 and after making a list I found there are 35 different cigarette brands in the journal. There are 45 on the index page but 10 of them are repeats of the same brand. All of the t206 cigarette brands have a ledger page with instruction on how many cards to insert in the packs and cartons. Coupon cigarettes isn't in the journal anywhere.

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Pat

We have discussed this 1910 COUPON situation numerous times before on this forum. Apparently, some people did NOT get the message.

Here is the most noteworthy evidence which proves this issue was PRINTED and ISSUED circa Spring/Summer 1910.
And, there is more evidence that I can present, but I'll spare it for now.

First, I will illustrate the printing factor with this picture. The similarity of the design of these five backs absolutely fixes the date to no later
than the Summer of 1910.

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2nd......


Folks....if the above info does not convince you of the 1910 date, then stay tuned for more proof.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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