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Rhotchkiss 02-08-2021 06:33 PM

Seems People Have Forgotten This is Pre-War
 
I love that all these new people have found the site, but please be reminded that this section is for pre-war baseball (pre WWII, not Viet Nam). There are other areas for post war, and basketball, and non-sports.

Some threads that go into topics that transcend pre-war, like the skyrocketing prices of cards, generally, I think have been accepted. But lately I see lots of threads about 1950s cards and freshly graded Jordan’s on the main page. Can we be mindful to put the right topics in the right parts of the site.

Thanks

Piratedogcardshows 02-08-2021 06:40 PM

Since you asked so politely.......

RedsFan1941 02-08-2021 06:48 PM

excellent reminder ron

jayshum 02-08-2021 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2066087)
I love that all these new people have found the site, but please be reminded that this section is for pre-war baseball (pre WWII, not Viet Nam). There are other areas for post war, and basketball, and non-sports.

Some threads that go into topics that transcend pre-war, like the skyrocketing prices of cards, generally, I think have been accepted. But lately I see lots of threads about 1950s cards and freshly graded Jordan’s on the main page. Can we be mindful to put the right topics in the right parts of the site.

Thanks

+1

conor912 02-08-2021 07:54 PM

The front page is never more than 25% pre-war threads. The majority is usually made up of death notices, complaining (ebay, PSA, Deans, scammers, AH rules and ethics, TPG wait times, HOF voting - the list goes on and on), as well as post-war cards, modern card values and paid advertisements.

My point is that while I 100% agree with you, this is not a new phenomenon either.

RCMcKenzie 02-08-2021 08:02 PM

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Picked up an n172 Burns to go with my n173 Dogs Head Burns. Thought I'd add some vintage cards to this thread.

Tao_Moko 02-08-2021 08:26 PM

You're correct. Probably 80% of topics on the prewar page belong in the watercooler section. Tpg and auction house complaints would consume it.

After checking, I was wrong. It's about 50%.

Casey2296 02-08-2021 08:45 PM

I like the vibe of both the pre-war and post-war forums, I like them separate since they have different energy on each forum. If we're talking about cards specifically pre-war belongs here, post-war belongs there. I agree wholeheartedly that we should all be telling more stories about baseball and collecting whether it's pre or post war.

wondo 02-08-2021 08:53 PM

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here hear (couldnt bother to look up which version is appropriate)!

rhettyeakley 02-08-2021 09:15 PM

Generally, when you make a non-T206 pre-war post lately on the forum it gets about 300-400 views and quickly disappears from the front page with little community input. There is nothing wrong with T206 but that seems to be the life blood of this forum if I'm being honest.

The threads that stick around tend to be the ones that have the most controversy, calling out bad dealers, scams, etc.

Orioles1954 02-08-2021 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley (Post 2066145)
Generally, when you make a non-T206 pre-war post lately on the forum it gets about 300-400 views and quickly disappears from the front page with little community input. There is nothing wrong with T206 but that seems to be the life blood of this forum if I'm being honest.

The threads that stick around tend to be the ones that have the most controversy, calling out bad dealers, scams, etc.

+1.

Leon 02-09-2021 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley (Post 2066145)
Generally, when you make a non-T206 pre-war post lately on the forum it gets about 300-400 views and quickly disappears from the front page with little community input. There is nothing wrong with T206 but that seems to be the life blood of this forum if I'm being honest.

The threads that stick around tend to be the ones that have the most controversy, calling out bad dealers, scams, etc.

My general feeling is the further away from pre-war the more OT something is on the front page. If the subject has to do with WWII or before, even tangentially, it can usually stay. A 1952 Topps question should go in the post war section but it's not that far away from Pre War so many times they can stay. And an occasional off topic, by a frequent poster, is mostly ok. It would be nice if more members started good Pre-war card threads but it is what it is. :)

Pre WWII baseball cards and threads are most appreciated.

https://luckeycards.com/d311peck.jpg

MVSNYC 02-09-2021 09:37 AM

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Ok, Ryan, so let's see some pre-war cards, man! ;)

jcmtiger 02-09-2021 09:51 AM

Pre war
 
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Yup

Rhotchkiss 02-09-2021 10:54 AM

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Ok, let’s do it

brianp-beme 02-09-2021 11:57 AM

Doing my best to keep this forum squeaky old. Here are links to threads I started within the last 12 months that either were specifically preWW2 related (the 1943 MP & Co. thread, if not prewar, is at least World War 2 concurrent), or encouraged posting of prewar cards and newbie cards alike. Feel free to bump any of interest...you will be doing your part to make this board swing like Glenn Miller, or perhaps help get its ragtime back on.

Brian


https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=296074

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=294815

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=293822

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=293568

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=290633

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=280478

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=279215

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=286840

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=285158

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=286108

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=286222

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=283808

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=282983

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=282858

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=282805

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=280680

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=279479

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=279694

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=278804

Leon 02-09-2021 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko (Post 2066134)
You're correct. Probably 80% of topics on the prewar page belong in the watercooler section. Tpg and auction house complaints would consume it.

After checking, I was wrong. It's about 50%.

As I count them, at least pertaining to what us Pre-War guys do, there are far fewer than 50% OT.

Cmount76 02-09-2021 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2066219)
My general feeling is the further away from pre-war the more OT something is on the front page. If the subject has to do with WWII or before, even tangentially, it can usually stay. A 1952 Topps question should go in the post war section but it's not that far away from Pre War so many times they can stay. And an occasional off topic, by a frequent poster, is mostly ok. It would be nice if more members started good Pre-war card threads but it is what it is. :)

Pre WWII baseball cards and threads are most appreciated.

https://luckeycards.com/d311peck.jpg

Hey Leon, I know that "every thread needs a card", but I have a question...is there any rhyme or reason to the cards you choose? Do you have a playlist? Is it completely random? Do you see a thread (pun intended) with the card and the topic? Inquiring minds want to know. :). (Am I the only inquiring mind? :confused: )

mrreality68 02-09-2021 04:59 PM

Posting some pre war
 
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Here we go with some pre war

Tao_Moko 02-09-2021 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2066344)
As I count them, at least pertaining to what us Pre-War guys do, there are far fewer than 50% OT.

My bad. 49.7%

Frank A 02-09-2021 05:10 PM

Lighten up guys. There's so much going on in the hobby today that some of the off topic stuff pertains to all.

joshuanip 02-09-2021 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2066295)
Ok, let’s do it

Ryan-Your blue Cobbie got me drooling...

Leon 02-09-2021 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko (Post 2066438)
My bad. 49.7%

Show me 49.7% that have no ancillary interest crossover to Pre-War? I count less than a handful that have none....

https://luckeycards.com/pr321goudeyruth.jpg

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Tao_Moko 02-09-2021 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2066454)
Show me 49.7% that have no ancillary interest crossover to Pre-War? I count less than a handful that have none....

https://luckeycards.com/pr321goudeyruth.jpg

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Calm down. When on the front page last night I used my fingers and toes. I guess if you count auction site issues, tpg complaints, etc. as ancillary then you're right. I'm wrong, you're right. Feel better?

Aquarian Sports Cards 02-09-2021 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2066437)
Here we go with some pre war

I won't let you post a gorgeous Jackson without anyone commenting! Amazing card.

Tao_Moko 02-09-2021 05:58 PM

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For cards sake. This was an ebay auction recently. I had a hard time not bidding. Any of you pick it up?

joshuanip 02-09-2021 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2066295)
Ok, let’s do it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko (Post 2066470)
For cards sake. This was an ebay auction recently. I had a hard time not bidding. Any of you pick it up?

Was it graded? comparing to a similar card in hand and the bleachers aren’t as defined as my card. Also the face in my card I’d smooth, note the “dot” pattern on the face...

Tao_Moko 02-09-2021 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshuanip (Post 2066477)
Was it graded? comparing to a similar card in hand and the bleachers aren’t as defined as my card. Also the face in my card I’d smooth, note the “dot” pattern on the face...

It was not graded. I'll find the ended listing and update this post. I have an example and agree about not being 100% and why I didn't bid.https://www.ebay.com/itm/363237618964

ullmandds 02-09-2021 06:27 PM

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it's a losing fight! There is only so much left to discuss in the vintage world...and the old and the new have become intermingled.

Casey2296 02-09-2021 06:30 PM

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Mr. Johnson would like to come to the pre-war party.

mrreality68 02-09-2021 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2066491)
Mr. Johnson would like to come to the pre-war party.

Very nice. Glad he came to the party

brianp-beme 02-09-2021 06:44 PM

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Johnny says no thanks to the party...he's pretty messed up as it is.

Brian

irishdenny 02-09-2021 06:52 PM

Where's Peter Chao when You need'em? (:

brianp-beme 02-09-2021 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishdenny (Post 2066503)
Where's Peter Chao when You need'em? (:

He did provide plenty of vintage inquiries to ponder.

Brian

Casey2296 02-09-2021 07:16 PM

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And let's go with a Blue theme...
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Casey2296 02-09-2021 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2066324)
Doing my best to keep this forum squeaky old. Here are links to threads I started within the last 12 months that either were specifically preWW2 related (the 1943 MP & Co. thread, if not prewar, is at least World War 2 concurrent), or encouraged posting of prewar cards and newbie cards alike. Feel free to bump any of interest...you will be doing your part to make this board swing like Glenn Miller, or perhaps help get its ragtime back on.

Brian


https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=296074

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=294815

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=293822

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=293568

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=290633

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=280478

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=279215

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=286840

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=285158

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=286108

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=286222

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=283808

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=282983

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=282858

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=282805

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=280680

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=279479

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=279694

https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=278804

Props for a lot of good content Brian.

DeanH3 02-09-2021 09:18 PM

How about a red theme?

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10128
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10116
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10111
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10125

Casey2296 02-09-2021 09:29 PM

By all means Dean, great cards. Let's see some pre war member green theme cards, or are we going to talk about some dodo spending 5 mil on a Mantle?

Rhotchkiss 02-09-2021 09:35 PM

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Love the twist this has taken- red, white, and blue

DeanH3 02-09-2021 09:42 PM

Thanks Phil!

Ryan - Now that's a trio that deserves a salute!

Casey2296 02-09-2021 10:31 PM

Ryan, if you don't roll out your 131's I'm going to report you to the pre war gendarmes.

GeoPoto 02-10-2021 05:14 AM

I'll try Red, White, and Blue
 
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No match for Wagner

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1612958795
https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1612958815
https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1612958834

x2drich2000 02-10-2021 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2066565)
Love the twist this has taken- red, white, and blue

Slight change, black-blue-red

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ed2af9f8_z.jpg

gabrinus 02-10-2021 06:42 AM

Agree
 
Nice cards everybody...Ryan, agree 100 percent...Jerry

tedzan 02-10-2021 07:09 AM

19th Century......
 
Hey Ryan....good buddy....here are some pre-war classic beauties......plus some early seldom seen 19th Century scorecards.


From my favorite card set in my collection......

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...BxFBetc75x.jpg





And, how's about this for going deep into rare 19th Century stuff...... 1871 Troy Haymakers

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...lliamFlynn.jpg


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...makersyork.jpg


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...pperflynnb.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Rhotchkiss 02-10-2021 09:05 AM

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Great cards and other memorabilia (and Hi Ted). Phil, you asked for some M131 newboys,,,,

Casey2296 02-10-2021 10:59 AM

Very nice Ryan.

Leon 02-10-2021 11:24 AM

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Great looking M131s, Ryan.


and a seldom seen premium card of 2 of the greatest.
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Mike D. 02-10-2021 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2066490)
it's a losing fight! There is only so much left to discuss in the vintage world...and the old and the new have become intermingled.

Every year, more stuff becomes old!

To a kid collecting today, 2015 Topps is “old”. :)

So, these problematic posters aren’t wrong, they’re just early!

ullmandds 02-10-2021 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D. (Post 2066797)
Every year, more stuff becomes old!

To a kid collecting today, 2015 Topps is “old”. :)

So, these problematic posters aren’t wrong, they’re just early!

yah! i can't believe the cards from my childhood...late 70's...has become old...and "valuable!"

JollyElm 02-10-2021 03:05 PM

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I'm here to trade Gregg Jefferies rookie cards and chew gum, but I'm all out of gum...

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itjclarke 02-10-2021 03:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2066817)
I'm here to trade Gregg Jefferies rookie cards and chew gum, but I'm all out of gum...

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That made me genuinely Laugh Out Loud

... now back to pre-war

Mike D. 02-10-2021 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2066811)
yah! i can't believe the cards from my childhood...late 70's...has become old...and "valuable!"

It’s like the first time you turn on an oldies station and hear a song off an album you bought when it came out.

Also, if you still listen to radio, you’re probably old. :)

soxinseven 02-10-2021 05:46 PM

Blues
 
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A couple of my favorite blues

brianp-beme 02-10-2021 05:49 PM

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Here are 3 potential definitions of prewar, from most expansive to most restrictive with example cards from each decade:

PreWW2 - represented by cards from 7 different decades: 1941 Play Ball (beats US involvement in WW2), 1933 Goudey, 1921 E121 National Caramel, 1911 D310 Pacific Coast Biscuit, 1903 E107 Breisch-Williams, 1895 N300 Mayo Cut Plug, and 1887 N172 Old Judge.

PreWW1 - just the D310, E107, N300 and Old Judge.

Pre-Spanish American War of 1898 - represented only by the Old Judge card.


Brian

Spike 02-10-2021 09:33 PM

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�� Now playing, the Bancroft Trio, featuring Dave, his brother George, and his other brother George �� (Just kidding, they're all Dave.)

Casey2296 02-10-2021 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxinseven (Post 2066902)
A couple of my favorite blues

Nice Newsboy's Steve.

Stampsfan 02-11-2021 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2066811)
yah! i can't believe the cards from my childhood...late 70's...has become old...and "valuable!"

Yup. I remember going through the same thing with my cards from the late 60's to early 70's. My nephew asked me if I had cards from my youth, and I said "Yeah", and brought them out. Then he showed me a price guide, and I was shocked.
I distinctly recall thinking at the time "These things can't have a price tag attached. They're not old... everyone must still have theirs."
That was the late 80's, and I got hooked again right away.

perezfan 02-11-2021 01:32 AM

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Here are 5 from my collection... picked these just because the colors look so purdy...

GeoPoto 02-11-2021 04:36 AM

One fact correct out of four
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 2066950)
�� Now playing, the Bancroft Trio, featuring Dave, his brother George, and his other brother George �� (Just kidding, they're all Dave.)

This reminded me of the card below, which near as I can tell features 1B "Long George" "High Pockets" Kelly. Not "M". Not Kelley. And not Pitcher. They got his team correct, so one out of four. Decent day at the plate, but not very good fact presentation.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1613043262

Buythatcard 02-11-2021 06:24 AM

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I believe that this card falls under all pre wars.

Exhibitman 02-11-2021 07:30 AM

Speaking of not pre-war, what happened to all of the Soccer card content? The forum disappeared and seems to be merged into the testing area with all the posts missing???

Leon 02-11-2021 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2067021)
Speaking of not pre-war, what happened to all of the Soccer card content? The forum disappeared and seems to be merged into the testing area with all the posts missing???

The hockey guys wanted their own space so the soccer forum's content is in the hockey section, before the hockey started. And the soccer forum is in with testing forum as it had fewer threads than the other sections. It was just a numbers thing to combine the least used forums to be able to create a dedicated one for hockey....which isn't being used that much. It's hard to please everyone :)

https://luckeycards.com/hockey.jpg

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ValKehl 02-11-2021 03:20 PM

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Ryan and Steven, seeing your fantastic M131s, right after I returned home from getting my 2nd Covid-19 vaccination, has made my day. It has also caused me to regret that I have never managed to acquire one of these for my type collection.

George, here's a few variations to compliment your nice W514 card of Sam Rice:

DeanH3 02-11-2021 08:03 PM

How about the first five!

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10109
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=26965
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10122
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10126
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=21948

Rhotchkiss 02-11-2021 08:22 PM

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Dean, challenge accepted (BTW- awesome cards)

DeanH3 02-11-2021 08:49 PM

Thanks Ryan! You definitely stepped it up with that grouping. Holy smokes!! Just incredible.

tedzan 02-11-2021 08:52 PM

19th Century......
 
Original 1869 Harper's Weekly wood cut
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ightbigbat.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...kly7241869.jpg

TED Z

T206 Reference
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ullmandds 02-11-2021 08:53 PM

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here's a version.

68Hawk 02-11-2021 09:35 PM

It's like a secret handshake for the vintage club.:p

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...pscncseasl.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...OxfordRuth.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...CJwjohnson.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...pscjquzidb.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...psth5f5xjz.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albu...dersWagner.jpg

Casey2296 02-11-2021 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2067335)
here's a version.

Nice group Pete

bnorth 02-13-2021 09:06 AM

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This thread has delivered with some great cards. I can't compete with the Ruth, Cobb, and Wagner cards. I will put my Weed up against any body else with some, I mean one.:D

Casey2296 02-13-2021 11:04 AM

Wouldn't be a pre-war party without a little Weed available for some of the partygoers.

sb1 02-13-2021 11:14 AM

Damn it!! I don't have a Ruth to play in the first five show and tell..... :(

Casey2296 02-13-2021 12:17 PM

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Can't compete with the big boys here but let's see if we can scrabble together some respectable friends to invite.
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White Borders 02-14-2021 11:18 AM

George, Ted, Joe
 
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Challenge: Show your Outfield, Infield, or Battery

My Outfield

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brianp-beme 02-15-2021 01:35 PM

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Here is my Original 5 HOF...I apologize that the T207 Walter Johnson is not up to my normal standards.

Brian

JollyElm 02-15-2021 05:01 PM

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Can you imagine being a little kid, and the only knowledge you have of what your hero looks like is taken from the Kabuki-like image on your favorite baseball card...

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...and then Dad finally takes you to your first baseball game ever, and this is what the guy standing on the mound actually looks like???

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chadeast 02-15-2021 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Borders (Post 2068387)
Challenge: Show your Outfield, Infield, or Battery

My '33 Goudey-only infield

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a4f57e9c_c.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...41113f1f_c.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c49f94fb_c.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ce171807_c.jpg

chadeast 02-15-2021 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Borders (Post 2068387)
Challenge: Show your Outfield, Infield, or Battery

and here's my battery

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...81fe0868_c.jpg


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