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Mpags91 11-10-2020 11:30 AM

1953 Topps 82 Mickey Mantle for sale RAW gem
 
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Up for sale is an authentic 1953 Topps 82 Mickey Mantle RAW. Centering is dead on, corners are slightly rounded, there are two chips on the outer white border, and no there was not a number 2 written on the back top right corner. That is a weird illusion from the camera I'm not an expert, but from what I've seen and researched I would imagine PSA would grade it around a 2. Pictures are attached, local pick up is preferred, but I am willing to explore safe shipping and payment options.

Asking price $1,800.00 OBO

Contact Matt at mapags91@outlook.com

bobbyw8469 11-10-2020 11:37 AM

PSA is NOT grading that a 4 or 5. Not with corners like that.

ullmandds 11-10-2020 11:38 AM

this should be in the BST...not the main page.

ullmandds 11-10-2020 11:38 AM

ya more likely would grade a 2

Mpags91 11-10-2020 11:39 AM

okay thanks i'll update

111gecko 11-10-2020 11:39 AM

Mantle
 
Welcome to the board. Might be easier to post an asking price than claim it's a 4-5 when it s a 2-2.5

Do you guarantee it will grade and not be altered?....hahaha...just a little off topic humor.

todeen 11-10-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 111gecko (Post 2033664)
Do you guarantee it will grade and not be altered?....hahaha...just a little off topic humor.

ZING! Is this the next viral saying on this board? Like Budweiser's "What's UPPPPP?"

Mpags91 11-10-2020 11:46 AM

Why would I alter it? My cards are genuine. Also, like I said, I'm not an expert. I'm looking to sell a nice card. I'm not claiming it's a 4-5. I will edit that to a 2-3. You guys are sensitive. If anyone is interested in making an offer please reply. Thanks.

swarmee 11-10-2020 11:49 AM

The reason we're sensitive is that you're a new person nobody knows posting a card for sale on the DISCUSSION BOARD for PRE-WAR CARDS and highly overexaggerating the condition. You should be a little more apologetic. Click the red triangle button to report your own post and have it moved to the Buy/Sell/Trade section.

Or just ask the mods to delete it and start from scratch. Maybe use your first real post to introduce yourself without selling anything yet. Oh, and once you start stating any kind of opinion, you have to post your full name here.... Have a good one.

Edit: and how would we do local pickup when you don't even list a location? You need some assistance learning how to sell things on the internet.

Mpags91 11-10-2020 11:56 AM

Not here to make friends. I'm here to sell my cards. If i could edit this post I would. It's a learning curve. Chill out man.

Edit: Also, I have no desire to give out my name or location to people like you. That's my right. I'm not here to scam. I'm here to learn the forum and sell my cards. I don't quite understand the rude reception and bullying. Anyone interested will privately message me, and only then will they receive details about my items for sale and their location. Have a nice day buddy.

chlankf 11-10-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033669)
Not here to make friends. I'm here to sell my cards. If i could edit this post I would. It's a learning curve. Chill out man.

Wow.

Jim65 11-10-2020 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033669)
Not here to make friends. I'm here to sell my cards. If i could edit this post I would. It's a learning curve. Chill out man.

Good thing you're not here to make friends because that would be a bad start.

brianp-beme 11-10-2020 12:18 PM

Beware all...friends are just fiends hiding their ill intentions with a 'r'.

Brian

conor912 11-10-2020 12:29 PM

Adrian?

Doc 11-10-2020 12:36 PM

eBay may be your best outlet if you don't want to "make friends". This board is community first, BST second.

wondo 11-10-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2033662)
ya more likely would grade a 2

That's generous with the paper loss, staining and indentations.

bigred1 11-10-2020 12:58 PM

When i first read the description i thought it was a joke, guess not based on replies.

Bpm0014 11-10-2020 01:01 PM

That card will grade a 1. Maybe a 1.5 tops on a great day.

ALR-bishop 11-10-2020 01:10 PM

...and welcome to the board :)

Republicaninmass 11-10-2020 01:19 PM

Maybe GEM will grade it a 4?

Leon 11-10-2020 01:49 PM

I was away for a few hours and/or just didn't pay any attention to this thread. However, this is quite entertaining for the moment. LOL.,...

bobbyw8469 11-10-2020 02:28 PM

I think it's a nice card and I like the centering on it. I am going to say it's a '2'.

marzoumanian 11-10-2020 02:31 PM

I agree
 
This was my laugh of the day. Like, amazing back and forth.

Peace and love to all and stay healthy.That's what counts.

Jcosta19 11-10-2020 02:43 PM

When this thread popped up just as the CMIZ one was winding down...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e524a5777a.jpg

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Ricky 11-10-2020 02:48 PM

Wow. I'm thinking that's a 1 or 1.5 tops.

riggs336 11-10-2020 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bigred1 (Post 2033692)
When i first read the description i thought it was a joke, guess not based on replies.

+1

Bocabirdman 11-10-2020 02:59 PM

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RAW. Centering is dead on, corners are slightly rounded, and two minor chips on the outer white border. I'm not an expert, but from what I've seen and researched I would imagine PSA would grade it between a 4-5...

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RL 11-10-2020 03:06 PM

Kevin Mize??

Seven 11-10-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bocabirdman (Post 2033733)
RAW. Centering is dead on, corners are slightly rounded, and two minor chips on the outer white border. I'm not an expert, but from what I've seen and researched I would imagine PSA would grade it between a 4-5...

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3 At best. Jeez these crazy kids today, trying to flip cards :D

Tabe 11-10-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven (Post 2033751)
3 At best. Jeez these crazy kids today, trying to flip cards :D

If you can read the name, it's a 6 at minimum.

Seven 11-10-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tabe (Post 2033756)
If you can read the name, it's a 6 at minimum.

If that's the case, I might have a few 9's and 10's in my collection. I guess I'm rich now!

oldeboo 11-10-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcosta19 (Post 2033726)
When this thread popped up just as the CMIZ one was winding down...

Yeah, it almost feels like this is programmed entertainment for the board. Wonder what we get after this thread hits 10k views too!!! :)

JollyElm 11-10-2020 04:15 PM

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doug.goodman 11-10-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033669)
Not here to make friends.

That's good, because you aren't.

Bocabirdman 11-10-2020 04:53 PM

"Not here to make friends."


And as it happens....I only buy from "friends" :D

doug.goodman 11-10-2020 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033669)
I'm here to sell my cards.

Yeah, good luck with that.

Stampsfan 11-10-2020 05:01 PM

I guess that means paying via PayPal “Friends & Family” is out for this transaction.

Nunzio11 11-10-2020 05:06 PM

I'd like to get a look at the Jackie in the picture also. Seems to have at least one rounded corner very similar to the Mick.

stlcardsfan 11-10-2020 05:08 PM

Take it

todeen 11-10-2020 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jcosta19 (Post 2033726)
When this thread popped up just as the CMIZ one was winding down...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e524a5777a.jpg

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

LMAO. This thread is on fire this afternoon!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

Tao_Moko 11-10-2020 05:45 PM

I don't know. This could be a brilliant sales approach. How many PM's do you think he has received?

Mpags91 11-10-2020 05:45 PM

Yeah it's hilarious. How can I edit my post? I can't seem to find that option.

bnorth 11-10-2020 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033809)
Yeah it's hilarious. How can I edit my post? I can't seem to find that option.

Bottom right corner, click on the EDIT button.

Tao_Moko 11-10-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033809)
Yeah it's hilarious. How can I edit my post? I can't seem to find that option.

You can also request the forum moderator, Leon, to move your post to the appropriate bst section. Or, let this one die and repost yourself. This community is gun shy to these types of posts, but also highly judgemental based on past experiences. Might want to ease in with an introduction as a new member first.

Tyruscobb 11-10-2020 06:01 PM

I’ll give the seller credit for accurately describing the card’s defects. However, I think a 4 to 5 grade is a little generous, assuming the card is even authentic.

I wish the seller good luck. He may have difficulty selling ungraded four figure cards without a name, location, or someone vouching for him.

Frank A 11-10-2020 06:56 PM

I'm just sitting here at the keyboard LMAO. Where do these people come from?

Leon 11-10-2020 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tao_Moko (Post 2033807)
I don't know. This could be a brilliant sales approach. How many PM's do you think he has received?

Kamikaze sales approach?

I would guess a 1.5 to 2. It's a nice looking card.

Edit....didn't see the little paper loss on the border. 1 to 1.5
.

Bigdaddy 11-10-2020 07:22 PM

I wanna bring the heater, and announce my presence with authority.

Tao_Moko 11-10-2020 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2033848)
Kamikaze sales approach?

I would guess a 1.5 to 2. It's a nice looking card.

Edit....didn't see the little paper loss on the border. 1 to 1.5
.

Lol. Yeah. I would bet $50 he has offers in his pm though. It's the cat to antifreeze syndrome. Dangerous, but damn it tastes good.

HRBAKER 11-10-2020 08:05 PM

I might be interested but the zipper is broken on my fanny pack and I can't get to my wallet.

Mpags91 11-10-2020 08:18 PM

Robert Williams thanks for not being so unreasonable. The card is nice and they know it. I've looked at various PSA graded Mantle topps 82 cards and have seen 2-3 grades in far worse condition. Let's call it a 2. What is a serious buyer willing to pay for this card in your opinion?

conor912 11-10-2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 2033872)
I might be interested but the zipper is broken on my fanny pack and I can't get to my wallet.

...and I just spent the last of my cash on tanning and hair plugs. Bummer.

bnorth 11-10-2020 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033877)
Robert Williams thanks for not being so unreasonable. The card is nice and they know it. I've looked at various PSA graded Mantle topps 82 cards and have seen 2-3 grades in far worse condition. Let's call it a 2. What is a serious buyer willing to pay for this card in your opinion?

I would guess in the $700-$800 range.

Jayhawke 11-10-2020 08:28 PM

I’m trying to unwind for the night and this thread has me cracking up. I won’t be able to sleep for an hour.

Mpags91 11-10-2020 08:38 PM

Ben I saw a PSA 2 that just sold on ebay for $1,800..

oldeboo 11-10-2020 08:39 PM

Should show more of that Jackie, could be a 7 or 8

Tyruscobb 11-10-2020 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033885)
Ben I saw a PSA 2 that just sold on ebay for $1,800..

It’s difficult to sell something if you don’t list a price. What is your asking price? I’m not going to bid against myself, and am not in the business of pricing another man’s merchandise.

bnorth 11-10-2020 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033885)
Ben I saw a PSA 2 that just sold on ebay for $1,800..

Yes but that is already in a PSA slab, big difference.

Mpags91 11-10-2020 08:56 PM

Let's just say I enjoy watching you low ball me. Humor me Tyruscobb. What would you offer me if you really wanted this card?? It's really not difficult.

Mpags91 11-10-2020 09:01 PM

Why? From what I've read there are some buyers who prefer ungraded cards and they can still sell for what a graded card would sell for. You guys are so paranoid. Believe it or not, not everyone who comes through this forum is a scam artist. My cards are authentic. They were given to me by my grandfather.

ullmandds 11-10-2020 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033892)
Why? From what I've read there are some buyers who prefer ungraded cards and they can still sell for what a graded card would sell for. You guys are so paranoid. Believe it or not, not everyone who comes through this forum is a scam artist. My cards are authentic. They were given to me by my grandfather.

WOW! You read that??????

bnorth 11-10-2020 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033892)
Why? From what I've read there are some buyers who prefer ungraded cards and they can still sell for what a graded card would sell for. You guys are so paranoid. Believe it or not, not everyone who comes through this forum is a scam artist. My cards are authentic. They were given to me by my grandfather.

Nobody pays graded prices for raw cards. Plus cards usually sell for less if not sold on eBay. ebay charges 13-15% to sell on there so a seller can make more cash while selling at a cheaper price. Also i don't collect Mantle so like I posted it was a guess.

Post some pics with prices in the BST section. If priced too low they sell within minutes. If priced properly they sell within hours. If priced to high they can be listed for years with no buyers.

pokerplyr80 11-10-2020 09:11 PM

This seems like too much of a coincidence. Did these cards from from grandpa Mize?

Casey2296 11-10-2020 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033892)
Why? From what I've read there are some buyers who prefer ungraded cards and they can still sell for what a graded card would sell for. You guys are so paranoid. Believe it or not, not everyone who comes through this forum is a scam artist. My cards are authentic. They were given to me by my grandfather.

Then you should say that. And it helps to walk into a room and get the lay of the land before you do anything. Just like walking into a nightclub, Get a sense of where you're at and see how what "you" do and what "they" do is different or similar, then find common ground with people.

I'm sure your grandfather would be shaking his head at your bull in the China shop approach.

You might be a nice guy and a great addition to this forum but your everything is a nail approach doesn't sell well here.

A bit of humility and respect goes a long way.

Mpags91 11-10-2020 09:17 PM

Yea I did. Dean's cards wrote an article about it. Are you all affiliated with PSA or something. You guys are intense. Just trying to learn about baseball card values and how to sell. You won't discourage me. Someone wants my collection. Move along if you're not interested.

Tyruscobb 11-10-2020 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033891)
Let's just say I enjoy watching you low ball me. Humor me Tyruscobb. What would you offer me if you really wanted this card?? It's really not difficult.

I wouldn’t offer you one nickel for that card. The uniformly rounded corners are a red flag for me. Plus, I already own a graded one. I don’t need to gamble on an ungraded card from someone I do not know. Easy pass for me personally, but good luck.

Mpags91 11-10-2020 09:20 PM

I've been respectful. If you're not interested in purchasing my cards go away.

Mpags91 11-10-2020 09:21 PM

Thanks Ben. I appreciate the knowledge.

forceplay sport 11-10-2020 09:25 PM

I guess my question is why not put a price on it if your selling it ?

Vegas Cards 11-10-2020 09:38 PM

Isn't this one of the more commonly graded Mantles? Maybe not that many ungraded examples out there for sale I would guess.

Most would ask why not get it graded first?

Tyruscobb 11-10-2020 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas Cards (Post 2033908)
Isn't this one of the more commonly graded Mantles? Maybe not that many ungraded examples out there for sale I would guess.

Most would ask why not get it graded first?

Although I may be wrong, and am answering without first checking a pop report, I wouldn’t think it is anywhere near the most commonly graded Mantles. It is actually a short printed card and a rarer Mantle.

Getting the card graded in today’s environment could take 6 months. If he seriously wants to sell his collection and expose it to the most bidders, he should list it on a certain auction website. That way he doesn’t have to worry about setting a price. The free market will set it for him.

Alternatively, he could take pictures and post the cards on this site’s BST section. You can tell he doesn’t have much experience. This is why he can’t sell the card. He doesn’t know how to price it, and wouldn’t even know a good offer for it. He won’t accept anything less than amount no reasonable person on this site will pay. Waste of time.

ncinin 11-10-2020 09:53 PM

Mantle
 
There is a "2" written/possibly erased on the back at the top/right beside Mantle's name.

It may be the scan but that same corner looks touched up in red marker.

Once again the coloring could be the scan but the 2 written/erased will make the card SGC 1.5 or a PSA 1.5 or 2 mk

Orioles1954 11-10-2020 09:54 PM

Raw: $800-$1000
Graded: $1600-1800

111gecko 11-10-2020 09:57 PM

Mantle
 
Seriously...there are a ton of buyers here(me included) but you will find that we always post prices. We get that you are new here and learning the process which is fine; we are happy to have another collector. Bottom line; just put your asking price out there and you may be surprised on the responses you get:

Also; What else is in the collection?

Thanks!

Orioles1954 11-10-2020 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncinin (Post 2033912)
There is a "2" written/possibly erased on the back at the top/right beside Mantle's name.

It may be the scan but that same corner looks touched up in red marker.

Once again the coloring could be the scan but the 2 written/erased will make the card SGC 1.5 or a PSA 1.5 or 2 mk

I do see that. So probably $600-800 ungraded and $1000-1200 graded 1.5

PhillyFan1883 11-10-2020 10:09 PM

Why hasn’t this post been moved to BST yet?

Besides the fact that it is extremely entertaining. I think we should give the original poster a chance, and he has been respectful. Although I laughed at the 4-5 grade and no price. Chalk it up to a Learning curve. Also I agree post a price next time, but I don’t feel that’s a requirement. Especially if an item is rare. This 53 mantle is not. VERY hard to sell Raw online especially not from a established member with a history. GLWTS

ullmandds 11-10-2020 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb (Post 2033911)
Although I may be wrong, and am answering without first checking a pop report, I wouldn’t think it is anywhere near the most commonly graded Mantles. It is actually a short printed card and a rarer Mantle.

Getting the card graded in today’s environment could take 6 months. If he seriously wants to sell his collection and expose it to the most bidders, he should list it on a certain auction website. That way he doesn’t have to worry about setting a price. The free market will set it for him.

Alternatively, he could take pictures and post the cards on this site’s BST section. You can tell he doesn’t have much experience. This is why he can’t sell the card. He doesn’t know how to price it, and wouldn’t even know a good offer for it. He won’t accept anything less than amount no reasonable person on this site will pay. Waste of time.

+1

Casey2296 11-10-2020 10:52 PM

[QUOTE=Mpags91;2033902]I've been respectful. If you're not interested in purchasing my cards go away

Go away man. Your Gpa who owned that card would be ashamed of your behavior.

Phil Lewis

823dek 11-10-2020 11:41 PM

Mantle
 
Hyperbolic style of selling but only poppycock :p

toledo_mudhen 11-11-2020 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mpags91 (Post 2033667)
Why would I alter it? My cards are genuine. Also, like I said, I'm not an expert. I'm looking to sell a nice card. I'm not claiming it's a 4-5. I will edit that to a 2-3. You guys are sensitive. If anyone is interested in making an offer please reply. Thanks.

LOL - The reference is too another thread that seems to have "blown up" on the board.... kind of an inside attempt at jocularity (great word huh?)


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