Anybody around the country seeing sports shows being cancelled because of Corona
 

Was wondering if any of you guys living in different parts of the country seeing any sports shows being cancelled because of the Corona virus? I see the show in Chicago is still supposed to go on this weekend. If it does go on there is alot of autographed guests and it will be interesting to see if any cancel out of fear.

I had my Adat Chaverim show last weekend and attendance seemed fairly normal

So far, nothing has affected the shows in DFW

Rich

There's a new show coming up in May in Los Angeles; wonder if that will be canceled.

There was a show in San Jose last weekend, which is at the heart of the coronavirus in the US... all autograph guests showed up except one...

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49...ue-coronavirus

Ten's of thousands of people die each year of the flu and I don't think anything like shows etc have been cancelled. I know a few schools close at times because of the flu but that is all. I really don't understand the current situation and panic with this virus. Now if a few million cases were reported in the USA that would be news and still that would be less than 1% and about 80% of these cases have few symptoms , according to the expert doctors.

The Sport Card & Memorabilia Expo will be held in Toronto on May 1 - 3. I hope it doesn't get cancelled because it is North America's biggest hockey card show and only takes place twice a year.

https://sportcardexpo.com/

If anyone here does plan on attending, then keep your eyes on the site for updates.

maybe you missed the memo that they are hardly testing for it here. No test kits. ;) No need to go anywhere, especially a card show. That would be the last place on earth I would go right now but that's just me. :D

Cedar Rapids
 

I am setting up at the Cedar Rapids, IA show on March 29th. Hope to see you all there. I will have wipes and hand sanitizer at my table for customer use.

BYOM. (Bring Your Own Masks)

We have a large show in the Boston area the weekend of April 17-19. The promoter (Rich Altman) is sending out a bunch of promos every day right now about it, adding autograph guests, etc.

I expect things such as these types of shows will end up being canceled in the coming weeks, but they seem to be all systems go at the moment.

Card shows are easy to cancel. A better question is what will happen to spectator sports. Personally, I think there will be outright cancellations or games played in empty venues. March madness might be the first one.

Shows with guests
 

I think shows that heavily rely on autograph guests may be at risk. Will the talent show up due to fear/travel restrictions?

Seattle just banned events with 250 people and San Francisco just banned events with more than 1000. The majority of large St. Patrick's Day parades have already been canceled. I think this is smart. You need to act early to minimize the impact of a pandemic. Our collective memory is surprisingly short. There are many lessons to be taken from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic, including at looking what happens when you try to contain after the illness is already widespread...but most people don't even know there was an epidemic here in 1918.

There was a large crowd at my show in Milwaukee last weekend. I am setting up at the Wisconsin's Sports Collectors Association show this Sunday in Milwaukee. I plan to bring hand sanitizer. Milwaukee only has two reported cases of coronavirus.

To continue on what Chris said, here is a very interesting article on the 1918 Flu as it pertained to Baseball:

https://baseballhall.org/discover/19...spare-baseball

Mike, I'm not picking on you but this mindset is what causes people to be irresponsible and add fuel to the fire. It's not optimal to brush off the threat of this virus and say it has not impacted a higher percentage of our population.

The way a virus like this spreads is alarming. Sharing the same air as an infected person in a hallway could put you at high risk.

Would you want a society with a reactive mindset waiting for the "million" cases or proactive and taking preventative measures.

I have elderly parents and to protect the vulnerable I would rather a see precautionary mindset coming from citizens.

Just my take.

The Seattle Mariners have announced that the home series openers will be played at an alternate location.

My church had its Sunday service via Zoom.

A close friend of mine happens to be an immunologist at Oxford University (Formerly at Harvard Medical School and the Portuguese national institute of medicine, with her doctorate from Oxford). She correctly predicted to me the widespread of the virus (She said it would be much more widespread than then advertised), but said the death rate would be much lower than advertised. Essentially, she says compare it to the seasonal flu not the black plague. She also predicted it would become a seasonal thing from now on, just like the flu. I trust her opinion on the matter over anyone else I know.

So think prudence, as with the flu season, not panic.

I'm no medical expert, but the funny thing is the people with no formal medical knowledge I've encountered who disagree with her opinion. I said to someone who said what said is wrong: "With respect, you're a 20-year-old barista serving me a coffee at the corner coffee shop. She's at Oxford."

The biggest worry at this point is healthcare providers... their ability to quickly and efficiently treat respiratory illness that comes from this virus. Especially for the elderly.

There is no proven protocol to diagnose and treat this yet. Treating it like a normal flu until further notice is not something i'd like to see happen.

There is a local show this weekend I wanted to go to, hope it is open. Worst case would be that it could be the last one I'd get to go to for awhile. I still haven't finished sorting the cards I got at the last one!

In addition to the Governor banning all events with 250 people or more, they just announced that all Seattle area schools will be closed for the next 2 weeks, at a minimum.

So all concerts, sporting events, conventions, trade shows, religious gatherings, etc. are cancelled in the state of Washington, until further notice. I imagine this will continue well into April.

It's devastating to the economy here… many restaurants have already gone out of business, and parts of the Downtown that were thriving just a couple weeks ago now resemble a ghost town. So many jobs already negatively impacted or threatened... Costco HQ isn't even taking appointments for presentations (or returning emails). I'm sure it's the same with many other businesses.

I drive for LYFT on the side, but am taking a very prolonged break. My son is a waiter, and has had his hours cut by 75%. I'm pretty sure there will be a good percentage of Card Shows cancelled across the country. With all of the older people who attend, hoards of bodies under one roof, and the massive shared handling of goods, it's probably prudent to postpone these types of non-essential public events.

Perhaps it's time for sellers to start offering some incentives to drive up attendance numbers, like "Buy a graded 1952 Mantle card and get 3 wax packs of 1990 Score absolutely FREE!!!!!!" :D

This has nothing to do with card shows but I am currently sitting in a Starbucks that is normally PACKED and there is nobody here but my wife and I. I asked if this is happening more and the workers have said they see a reduced amount of traffic inside the store but drive through seems to be increasing.

I am not one to panic but I am being prudent. I have my hand wipes that I used to wipe down the table before I sat down but in this Starbucks, its probably a good idea anyway! LOL

How many people got their flu shot this year and always wash their hands etc. ?? Flu kills tens of thousands a year. Hope you haven't just started to wash your hands and using sanitizers. Next year their will be another Coruna strain, how many will get shots then ??? Probably only a low percentage of people. It's crazy , close a school, but the Casino's are open with 1,000 inside with older people.

I generally have my auto "get" in mind ahead of the show and buy the ticket day-of. So my routine hasn't been impacted. I think flight disruptions are the only thing that would stop some of those guys as these weekends are big earners for them. Hoping to attend this Sunday.

Oh-one thing I did do in advance was buy George Gervin's rookie to be signed. I didn't want to risk not finding a raw one at the show.

There are no shots to get--there is no vaccine. Nor is there likely to be one for THIS corona virus a year from now, much less a new strain.

I agree! I think this is way overblown and unnecessary panic all driven by the propaganda/corrupt/bias media.

Regular flu kills thousands a year but nary word about that??? Mmm, wonder why?

""CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.""
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

I have worked in a suburban city just north of NYC, in Westchester County, called New Rochelle for the past 17 years. Perhaps you have seen it in the news recently.

Sadly, what started as one man on the north end of town, moved on to his family, and then to his next door neighbor (he was driving him to the doctor.). From there, it found its way into the local synagogue, and the rest, as they say, is history.

I am not an alarmist, but prudent, common sense measures are appropriate. I hope that we are not naive enough to believe that it cannot happen to us.

I applaud the actions being taken by several neighboring school districts that are closing out of an abundance of caution, the colleges and universities moving to online learning, the NCAA for playing games without fans (going to be quite a different experience to watch), and for all of the decisions being made to protect the American people.

Despite the fact that a significant portion of people in this country get flu shots, roughly 35,000 people die from it every year. That should not bring anyone comfort in this case. COVAD19 is more virulent and no one had any immunity to it. We have just seen the tip of the iceberg so far in this country. As a country we have been slow to respond to it so far. Hopefully, this does not come back to bite us too badly.

I agree 100%... Seems that the orange man in chief has changed his stance should be interesting to hear what he says tonight.

STFU, dipshit!!!!!!

Canada
 

Canada now has over 100 cases of Coronavirus. Your government is allocating over 1 billion dollars to respond. Is the media in Canada also corrupt and biased? I think you are biased, not the media.

A couple reasons:

1. This virus is, as it stands, both marginally more contagious and has a marginally higher mortality rate than the common flu. Having one of these two attributes of a virus strain keep the virus "marginally" more dangerous. Have both makes it "exponentially" more dangerous. Exceptional measures might prevent this.

2. The virus is "novel" or new, meaning it's exposure to a human population at large is also new. This heightens the chance the virus mutates into an even more dangerous strain. The Spanish Flu outbreak during WW1 was actually broken into two waves - a first wave where the strain featured characteristics similar to the common flu (mortality rates clustered within the eldery, extremely young, and at risk). In the second, the virus then mutated into a strain that was almost equally as devastating to healthy young adults who previously the least at risk group. Exceptional measures might prevent this.

3. The "regular" flu is already firmly entrenched into our population. There is hardly a section of the globe that doesn't have a "flu season" now. The farther this strain expands and the larger the population that is infected the greater the risk this strain enters the rotation and reappears. This is especially dangerous because of number one. Exceptional measures might prevent this.

In itself covid-19 is lower on the list of dangerous viruses, there are plenty of things much much worse, but the reasons listed above and others give cause to isolate and "kill" this virus while it is still novel. Sports organizations, Universities, and in some cases entire regions are shutting down not because of something they read on facebook or watched on the news. They are taking extreme measures because top health organizations are recommending they do so.

Am I personally fearful of the virus? Not really. The only fear I have at the moment is the economic impact the virus will almost certainly soon have on my business. In looking at the greater picture though, we are at the cusp of measures most of us haven't seen in our lifetime so I believe the major health organizations feel the need to contain it quickly is warranted. How the media factors into this I'm not sure other than yeah, some of the most extreme medical efforts we have seen in some time are being thrown at this virus so I would expect them to report on it extensively.

Our leader up here is a moron and is destroying this country. He is doing this/pandering for votes, nothing more, trust me.

Of course the media up here is biased. The Toronto Star, CTV News, CP24news, the CBC, the list goes on and on.

If anyone doesn't think this covo 19 hysteria isn't political motivated to some extent, then they have their blinders on.

Remember HiN1, swine flu, SARS, Avian Flu, Mers, Ebola and a whole host of other ones.
Fear mongering at its best.
When's the last time you have heard about Wuhan China?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN20Y03W
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51813876

Doctors: 98% of coronavirus patients survive, but many others could have contracted it and not known
https://www.boston25news.com/news/do...DQSQDPOYMMIU4/

I will avoid lapsing into politics. Have messed that up a few times. Will avoid another transgression.

I don't see the point of saying "look how stupid people are." The reality of the situation is irrelevant. Not that any of us or the experts know the reality of the situation. The perception of the situation among the mass number of people is pretty bleak. Pointing out how irrational and silly you think people are is a waste of time. What's important is the perception. And that is very bleak at the moment. No one wants to get on train or planes. Have eaten out recently in some very empty restaurants. People on mass transport looking very afraid. Strange times.

Fear is a very primitive lizard brain emotion. Not really a rational one. You can explain how safe flying is and if someone doesn't want to fly you are banging your head against the wall. Ditto disease.

Maybe a bad choice for a meme but if you could see what is going on up here, you too would just shake your head.
Massive panic driven idiocy when Costco and other grocery stores open up all rushing/running towards the stacks of toilet paper, water and hand sanitizer.
This flu does not cause diarrhea nor has anyone anywhere said our city water is going to be turned off. It's absolutely ridiculous, but again, it shows the power the media has over the people.

The vast majority recover from this, just like the seasonal flu, and those who do pass are the same ones, health/age wise, who would also pass if they caught the flu but we are all acting like a bunch of fear driven sheep because that is what the media is telling us to do. :mad:
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

I don't think the media creates people's fear. I think once people feel personally at risk or fear for their family and loved ones, they go off the rails. Many horrible things have happened through human history in response to irrational fear. See Nazi Germany, lynching of innocent people, and many other terrible things. I'm not worried about my kids in college. But my 82 year old mother would be waylaid very easily and prob gone in days if she came into contact with this. That's what I'm seeing.

I disagree. Many "real" sources of information are out there but like most of us, we just continue to watch the news and read newspapers and trust/believe what they spew as being a 100% truthful, factual and telling the whole complete story.
Fear sells and they know this or else we'd be hearing how the cases in China are waning and how many have actually recovered/survived this instead of just those that have died.

I also have an 80 yr old father but he also knows, just like every winter/flu season, he needs to be careful/extra cautious.
http://voyapal.com/wp-content/upload...oronaVirus.pdf

Not disputing that the media loves a dramatic story rather than a boring one, but the reflexive thing in many factions of the country to blame the media for any story you don't like or agree 100% with has gotten a little silly. Not that it hasn't been highly effective. Not new though.

I honestly don't know how long fake news/biased news has been around, but to me, anyways, it seems like its at an all time high.

I know stateside, just like up here, many of these fake/biased news sites exist and can be easily proven if you are not so closed minded to take a look around.

I just laugh at some of yours and ours up here how they favor our leader and hate yours based on their political affiliation.

Dale
 

Dale, please shut up with your political crap. There are plenty of other forums where you can talk about politics. And yes, calling certain media outlets "fake news" is political, whether you want to admit it or not.

Please go away.

I agree with Irv on one thing...our PM (Justin Trudeau) is a moron!

Bullshit! Lots of fake news out there that just doesn't pertain to politics.

If you don't like my posts, stay away. Pretty simple, isn't it??

looks like attendance at the baseball card shows in europe is going to suffer for a bit!

Go away
 

I will say it again. Please go away. You don't contribute anything positive to the forum. Just whining about government and the media. Have you ever run for office? Maybe you should. I'm sure that you could get everything straightened out. It is easier for you to whine rather than to try to fix the problems.

NBA has suspended their season.

Giving up millions and millions.

If you think these people are overreacting to media reports well, whatever.

I'm not sure what you're babbling about as I don't even recall reading any of your posts so I assume you don't have much to bring to the site.

Just so you know, you are the one who associated fake news with politics, not me. Like I said, even though you are too blind/ignorant to see it, not all fake news is associated with politics.

We'll see how it plays out, but I think this is a knee jerk reaction.

Now Tom Hanks...
 

Tom Hanks has Coronavirus.

That's all I got to say about that.

I told my son that Woody has Coronavirus. He's very upset about this.

Me: (Opens saloon doors to view thread)

Commenters in the thread: "You dipshit!" "Bullshit!" "Shut up with your crap!" followed by general brawl, everyone throwing bottles at each other, one guy getting thrown over bar countertop, smashing into mirror on the wall.

Me: (Gently and carefully closes doors on thread, turns around and walks away at brisk pace).

I’m pretty sure this isn’t how it works.

This isn’t BS hype put out by the media
 

Just when I thought we couldn’t get any dumber. Fools posting that this is all the media’s fault like countries and businesses are sacrificing all this money on a hoax or to get trump. This ignorance is laughable and as someone with a compromised immune system so I am at risk to those taking my health lightly screw you!

The card doctors should show up to the shows with the bleach that they use to whiten their cards. It already seems like it’s a line the third-party graders let them cross. Use it for something good like wiping down surfaces.

"Its like trying to fight air" I believe that was from the NY mayor


No, just wash you hands! A tough concept for the hobbyists I know

It's a pretty far ways away but I am concerned about the impact on the National. I am confident that with the measures everyone seems to be taking we will have this thing well under control by the time of the show. But, since people book travel and make travel plans months in advance, I am concerned that attendance will be low regardless of how COVID-19 is contained by the end of July.

I wasn't going to the National anyway (see Adam's great response to not going to AC). That said, we can only hope this will be over by then. I am in the camp of it not being the major plague that many are estimating. I think it is a new virus that probably comes back year after year, just like influenza, but with lower sickness totals. There could be mutants of it but that is also common for these types of viruses, from what is being said. I think it's good to take all precautions and do what we can to prevent the spreading of it but paranoia isn't going to help.

Nice subtle reference :) Very good.

In the first 15-20 minutes of this hobby podcast, there is a mention of the cancellation of the local show where Shep sets up regularly. I'm sure there will be more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur5Qc-CPHzU

Regards
Rich

Autograph guests and dealers are cancelling going to the big Chicago show this weekend. If it doesn't get cancelled it certainly is being impacted. There are 25 Corona Virus cases in the Chicago area as of yesterday.

Was anything cancelled in 2009 ?????

H1N1(swine flu) was first detected in April 2009 in a 10-year-old girl in California. It was declared a global pandemic in June 2009 by the World Health Organization (WHO) and was finally over in August 2010.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that swine flu infected nearly 61 million people in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths. Worldwide, up to 575,400 people died from pandemic swine flu.

H1N1 affected the young and the healthy. Covid-19 affects the old and unhealthy but with way less of a mortality rate.

Media coverage/panic back then compared with today,,,,,,, huge difference.

The only auto signer I had in mind, George Gervin, has officially cancelled. I did get a pretty sweet rookie of his two days ago. I will hopefully catch him down the road. Still hoping to use JSA service tomorrow. At this point it’s out of the promoters hands I’m guessing. Yesterday was a watershed moment for municipalities large and small.

I plan on going tomorrow, as of now I haven't heard of them cancelling. a few friends are setting up.

Better safe than sorry to cancel large gatherings to stop the spread. it's not political.

well played
 

These people are simply running out of road. Things will pass. A vaccine will be created. The market will bounce back. Card collecting will be great again.

This is not political.

Make
Collecting
Great
Again

I have an auction letter from JSA, so I will show up tomorrow at a minimum. I feel the Village needs to make a call one way or the other.

You really think the Village is going to cancel anything at the convention center if they have the final say? Alot of money to be lost.

Rosemont has gone to great lengths in the past decade to market itself as a safe and secure environment for workspace, night life and lodging. What I’m saying is that the promoters and the DESCC have made it clear they will move ahead and open doors. The only thing that could stop it is government intervention at the county or local level.

The SEC just canceled their College Basketball Tournament. If this threat continues everything of large scale participation will be shut down shortly. Right now it doesn't look to good.

The NBA has suspended games. MLB is suspending operations and delaying the start of the season. NCAA conference tournaments are cancelled and the NCAA Tournament is in question. Let's all go to a baseball card show in a city with the Corona Virus.

There already is two strains, the L and S strain.

Received an email this morning from the promoters stating the Rosemont show is ON. I am also setting up Sunday at Gonzaga Hall in Milwaukee and that show is ON. Just two cases reported in Wisconsin.

As of 4 o'clock today the show in Rosemont has 21 guys that have cancelled signing autographs. That is out of about 70 guys maybe that were scheduled. And it keeps growing. Yesterday there was 2. There was 9 early this morning that cancelled and now 21

Governor J.B. Pritzker scheduled press conference @5pm CDT. https://news.wsiu.org/post/3-12-20-g...id-19#stream/0

Here in Ohio, schools are now closed for the next 3 weeks starting on Monday (why it's ok to go to school tomorrow is beyond me).

NCAA Tournament just cancelled.

All NCAA spring sports cancelled.

NBA, NHL, MLB suspended.


I'm in the camp that doesn't believe this is the black plague. I think the overreaction is ridiculous, and question the origins of the virus as well as the underlying reasons for the mass hysteria (looking at you, media). There are way too many inconsistencies and questions that don't add up to me and many others. With that being said, this is unbelievable. What a time to be alive...

Has The Strongsville Show Been Cancelled Yet ?

I spoke too soon on the Gonzaga Hall show in Milwaukee, it is now cancelled. My son's high school in suburban Chicago is cancelled until April 6.

Gatherings of 1,000 or more are now banned in Illinois.

I hope people focus on the reality that diagnosed cases are a fraction of the actual carriers of the virus.

1. Healthcare protocol does not test enough potential cases. Official "case" numbers aren't a true reflection of the impact to public risk.
2. Not everyone shows symptoms. Unknowingly hosts to the virus.