VCP got a face lift
 

Looks like Bobby gave it a more modern style format

https://vintagecardprices.com/

I am not seeing back scans? Maybe just an early glitch?

It won't open for me. I get an error message.

IPS Driver Error
There appears to be an error with the database.
You can try to refresh the page by clicking here

Just tried via phone and I HATE it. Totally different, cannot figure out to how to navigate. I am tech slow, so it may take me some time, but so far I am very not happy and will not keep my subscription if I can’t figure it out

Figured it out a little bit more, and I think it will be fine once my dinosaur- ass gets use to a new interface. But I am having trouble getting back scans (can’t get them)

I am getting an IPS driver error on my phone, whatever that means. I can pull up the site on a computer but it is taking a long time to load anything. I gave up already. Hopefully these are just minor issues that will be quickly taken care of. But as Rhotchkiss mentioned if I can't figure out the site there's no use paying for the service.

I am alternating between getting in and not. I've seen the same message Jesse has but sometimes it works. I assume it's just a transition thing. I do hope no changes have been made to available scans, resolution, etc.

i haven't been able to get in all day
 

been getting that message all day

Yes we launched the new site starting today and will take some time for the DNS propagation. This site rebuild has taken us over a year and we have worked very hard and given thought to everything imaginable. We realize that it is very hard for change, our old site was up for 12 years. It was out dated and we could not do anything with it the past 5 years in regards to improvements.

With this new site we can now do so much more and already have...

Hope that you like our improvements and give it a chance and embrace the change.

It is terrible---cant get prices---if it isn't broke, why fix it!!

It works on my phone but not my desktop computer. What needs to be done to fix this problem?
Thanks, James

In fairness Bobby just mentioned why the change was made. It sounds like more features are being added that should improve the site.

I will give them a chance to work the bugs out. The new site was just launched today.

Bobby perhaps it would help to explain the benefits of the new site vs the old.

Couple comments based on early usage.

When searching T206s, obviously the backs make a difference. Seems like on the phone and laptop you have to "wait" for a "new screen" to populate to see the different combos? On the phone it doesn't always seem to happen.

On the "view all", I really like that feature for set pricing, however...and there may not be a good answer for this, but...

Example 1956 topps. The "view all" set price includes every possible combination of cards (white back, grey backs, the various team versions that you list and you don't actually list them all). It puts the "set price" probably double or more what it actually is.

I really like the idea of being able to get a set price, but I think you've gotta try to do something to define what cards are actually included in each set. If "set" really ends up meaning "master set", it basically becomes meaningless.

I didn't like the "change" as first, but as I'm searching more I'm coming around. Search results definitely seem to be coming faster than previous as well.

Best for me to give you some links showing you.

https://www.facebook.com/VintageCard...9104202156228/

https://www.facebook.com/VintageCard...3463602165976/

https://www.facebook.com/VintageCard...6154335004282/

. I have tried pc , iPad and phone. Cannot find a price on any card

Worked for me on my iPhone. Very different interface. But seems manageable

This software is designed to be used on all interfaces, Phones, Pads, Computers, etc...the old one could only be seen in a browser and was clunky.

Have you tried logging in again? Same thing happened to me at first as sounds like is happening to you.

Bobby, I bet in the end it will be a great product. Like Don, I was very happy and familiar with the old format. Maybe also like Don, I don’t do well with change, especially when it involves technology. But I will give it a chance and be patient, and I understand there will be some bugs to work; I just wish you did after Heritage ended!!

Forward!

If anyone needs help they can always call

808-634-9588

But please keep in mind I do live in Hawaii so there might be a time difference

Working ok for me, will just take a bit of getting used to it.

Bobby, one thing I'm not seeing. You used to be able to search by category, D cards, N cards, etc....not seeing that now?

The functionality for T206 backs has been bad for a couple weeks. It's really annoying to have to make 3-5 clicks to get to a back combo especially if it's piedmont/sweet cap. I really miss when the drop down would populate the list of backs and I could get there in 1 click.

The Magnifying Glass on the right is the Search. You have some options here that you can use.

Decide what area..Baseball, Basketball, etc..

Then Keyword, Player Name, Set Name, ACC#


Just make sure that in the search it is set on ACC# and type in T206
and you will see everything perfectly like you would want.

Hi Bobby,
 

How does it take for a price to hit your site? If there’s a significant lag can that be sped up?

All depends what kind of sale took place. Regular auctions on eBay usually post within minutes. BIN's and BO's don't post until the time set by the seller expires. Thanks to eBays API system.

I like it
 

worked well for me

Ty Bobby
 

There is a group of d bags that try to sell cards before the buy price hits your site. They quote the last reported sale as their data point.

Would Leon be open to creating a list of hobby deplorables that use this tactic?

Do you see the actual accepted price on a BO or just the listed price?

I may be missing you but if that's all the data that's visible, what are they doing wrong?

Looks nice. Just need to get use to new format.

My one complaint is that the font colors are too light. I find it hard to read many of the pages. Should just stick to black.

Peter
 

Hi Peter,

I guess they are being sneaky or disingenuous in my opinion. Hypotheical . Example... the last 69 topps PSA 9 Pete Rose sold for 2100. 1000 higher than any previous sale. The next Psa 9 Pete Rose sells for 900. The buyer then shops the card using the 2100 data point which was most likely run up to create an artificial price point.

A few friends of mine have fell for this. I know it’s up to people to know what the market is but the amount of price fixing that is occurring along with eve thing else is huge.

I know an advanced collector like you Peter would not fall for this but I think it’s good to share information.

Just an opinion

On the page that shows Filter by Card # or Name, there is an example that shows multiple players. So, I assumed that you can search for multiple players. I tried searching for Mantle & Mays in the 1952 Topps set. I entered Mantle, Mays but received No matching records found.
Does this functionality work or am I doing something wrong?

So in your example the 900 Rose has not yet hit VCP?

BINs now don't have an expiration date, at least one the seller can set, so how does that work?

Bobby, I sold a card on eBay that is listed incorrectly on the site.
Is there a way to get it fixed?

It was eBay item number:273877787415
1959 Sadaharu Oh PSA 6 GOLD Border Hoshi Gangu JCM 24 Japan Rookie Menko Card

It should be listed here GOLD BORDER https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...haru-Oh/442543

However it is listed here REGULAR BORDER https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...haru-Oh/375689

Thanks,
Robert

Fixed now

That is just sample entry it takes just one name or number. But if there are multiple cards in that set with the same name or number then they will show up. For example in the T206 if you type McGraw all 4 of his cards will show.

Will you be adding a larger image of the card?

Although the new zoom feature is a nice option, having a nice large image other than the smaller pic currently showing would be nice.

You know, like it used to be :-)

That wasn't what I was saying. Say I want to query a Green Cobb with a Piedmont back. About a month ago I could type T206 cobb in the search bar, and the drop down would populate with all the cobbs and all the backs...I could scroll down and select what I wanted.

Now I have to type T206 cobb, get all the results, then scroll down, go to page 2, then click the combo I want. I do a ton of queries, and it's not a trivial thing.

Okay I see what you are talking about and think I know what you are looking for, put in a ticket on it. Give it some time but the search in the future should show up with all the back combination as well.

Bobby, I am a big t206 guy. First thing I did on the new site (on my phone) was search t206 Cobb (Jay great minds....). A large list game up of the front variations (red, green, bat on etc), but I had no idea which of this red portrait links was for Lenox or told you or piedmont, without clicking on the link. I too really liked that I could search t206 Cobb and the first page would be all the Cobb variations in all the possible back combos.

Likely same with e92 (dockman, nadja, crofts cocoa and candy, blank, etc)

Bobby- Thanks for having this as a resource and the willingness to improve the site! Sure there are going to be things that will take a little getting used to but the data is there and I am thankful we have something better than ebay, SMR or Beckett to do research for pricing! The historical data is fantastic!!

In the future it would be nice NOT to change the site on Saturday! Could not use it at the show yesterday, and likely cost me some nice stuff. But today seems to work good.

Awesome! Much appreciated

Used it this morning to look for a card and automatically auctions that had the card listed popped up. Cool feature. Easy to navigate with my phone.

The change actually started Friday night which is our slowest traffic day of the week. We thought we would have the site up sooner but doing these things and moving large sites you do run into issues and we had our share of problems. The site is running fairly smoothly now and we do have some errors that need attention. But the hard part is over...

Bobby, even as a gold member images are small in size. I realize you've implemented a circular zoom feature by touching the image with the cursor which is great, but do you also plan on having larger images available such as what the old site offered?

Bobby: one thing that isn’t on the new site that I wish you could bring back is the number of cards that are in the “my collection” header. It used to be in there with “viewing all groups in collection “. Other than that I really like it.

A ticket request has been put in to add this to the MC

So will look like: My Collection (278 Cards)

Hi Bobby
 

Hi Bobby,

I hope all is well. Congrats on the new look site..
Something I have noticed being a M101-5 and m101-4 collector is #186 Zach Wheat in the -5 section is not listed correctly- Bobby Wallace cards are in the wheat sold comps section. And no 186 Bobby Wallace listed. I have noticed others players missing also.. referencing all the card numbers and variations may be helpful. The best source to see the true master set list is old cardboard .com combined master set list of m101-4s and m101-5s.. I would like to see wheat comps also who is the same number..

I noticed this on the old site also.

Thank you,
Connor

Bobby-
Overall a nice upgrade, but honestly, the login and search field should be front and center of the home page, not an extra click away. My ancient hand hurt enough from clicking that I don’t need more clicks!

Thanks, Eric

I just searched 1958 Mays and the only result that I got was 1958 Yoo-Hoo matchbook Mantle. What do I need to do different?

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1563205405

In the search you choose Baseball and Keywords if you typed 1958 Mays then this would be your results. I see 9 different cards for Willie and no Mantle.

It looks like VCP has a live chat feature to speak with a customer agent. I love this feature! I identify mis-sales or small errors all the time and to know someone corrects them in real time gives me more confidence in the data I am reviewing.

You don't even like putting your name out here now. :) And I am not into managing it.

Also on the bottom right of every page is "Report a problem" this is the better way. We fix the errors usually within minutes.

Bobby: thank you.

In regards to the images we really have no control of the sizes because it is what the sellers post. The larger images posted by sellers will have a stronger magnification on VCP than the smaller images. I hope that this makes sense.

The T206 search has been fixed and wanted to show you.http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1563231280

I am now getting what you posted. Thanks for the fix

Bobby, great fix!! this is huge for me and T206 guys. Thank You!

I agree with Ryan, this is great. Thank you so much for implementing this.

The search feature at the set level no longer works. If you type in a number, it pulls too many results (every card with that number in the price).

If you type in multiple numbers, nothing is pulled.

Is this something on the list of getting fixed? I use the multiple search function most days. Thanks!

How about addressing the recent posts on Blowout and CU?

I just fixed the set, still can not move sales data around yet. As soon as I get the green light for that then that can be adjusted. Still working on fixing a lot of things that really could not be tested until we moved servers and into the new software.

To the person the asked for the Oh card to be moved. We had to move it back temporarily because the image did not go with it. Need to fix that first
and then we will move it to the correct listing.

Like the one suggesting Bobby under another ID is threatening to once again pull the buyer ID data? Or the one criticizing him for the mega PWCC banner ad?

Personally I would not answer anonymous trolls if I were him. People who are not hiding behind a keyboard I would answer.

Hi Bobby!

To prevent this from getting sidetracked, I wanted to highlight this question again.

Thanks,

I am only a member on this board and only post on this board. Here is where VCP started 12 years ago. Here is a place that I respect their opinion and ideas and value the feedback given.

I hope this answers your question Peter_Spaeth

Bobby, you got caught redhanded posting under an alt on CU. I mean, come on... you literally identified yourself in the older posts. I know it's embarrassing but have a sense of humor about it.

Arthur

Total and utter garbage, and anyone that reads those threads will see that. If you’d just own up to it, you might regain some credibility. The fact that you aren’t has made me rethink giving you the benefit of the doubt about protecting PWCC.

OK I am asking you the same question under my name, not in an accusatory way, just curious why there seems to be difficultly saving images that were not difficult to save before.

On a frankly more confrontational note, obviously you are not responding to the question I myself asked, which is why you are still promoting PWCC, since you don't by your own statements need their revenue.

Saving images? Not sure what you mean by this and did not know you could even do this on the old site. If you could it is new to me. Viewing images of past sales I can see we now have an image viewer so that you do not have to keep going back to the page and clicking.

In regards to PWCC and advertising. At the beginning of each year they purchase X amount of days for our side panel blitz program and pay for the whole year in advance in order to get a better rate. They have been doing this with us for the past 6 or 7 years now.

If I had a website I would not want an ad from a fraudster to be the first thing people saw when they opened it. Take down the ad and refund the balance of his payment, how hard would that be? Is he going to sue you?

So to be clear, do you deny you are ConcernedCollec on Blowout? People might have ways of finding out, keep in mind.

I would not characterize the guys who have found all these altered cards as trolls, with due respect.

And thus Peter Spaeth has so commanded. Sorry Bobby, I guess you're going to need to refund PWCC.

On a side note, could you let me know whether the search feature is getting fixed?

Thanks again.

This is a good one but the KauaBB on CU is much better and what caused the Blowout outing. "Who is Bobby?" has a non-zero chance of getting made into a t-shirt.

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...new-vcp#latest

Arthur

ETA: But don't worry, I totally believe your entire Memorial Day BS story now after all of this. Get busted posting under an alt? Double-down and do it again! That's how honest folk work.