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Rhotchkiss 05-04-2019 01:09 PM

Honus Wagner - The Flying Dutchman
 
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While I tend to agree with their general theme and conclusions, I am sick of looking at threads about PWCC and card doctoring. Lets look at some cards!

According to Wikipedia, the great Ty Cobb once regarded Wagner as "maybe the greatest star ever to take the diamond." No further description is needed for this baseball (and baseball card) icon. Show your Wagners!

oldjudge 05-04-2019 01:16 PM

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Hi Ryan! I'll play:

Cmount76 05-04-2019 01:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1875083)
While I tend to agree with their general theme and conclusions, I am sick of looking at threads about PWCC and card doctoring. Lets look at some cards!

According to Wikipedia, the great Ty Cobb once regarded Wagner as "maybe the greatest star ever to take the diamond." No further description is needed for this baseball (and baseball card) icon. Show your Wagners!

+1

clydepepper 05-04-2019 01:42 PM

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sandmountainslim 05-04-2019 01:47 PM

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The 48 Exhibit is my only one

tedzan 05-04-2019 02:25 PM

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7.../batwagner.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rfranknagy.jpg




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itjclarke 05-04-2019 02:30 PM

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Wags looking in the mirror..

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sycks22 05-04-2019 02:51 PM

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I'm in

DeanH3 05-04-2019 02:52 PM

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=10118http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=22874
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=10128

tedzan 05-04-2019 03:04 PM

Here's the closest I'll ever get to having a T206 Wagner, the 1st issue of SPORT HOBBYIST (dated 1962)…..1949 LEAF ((Pittsburgh Pirates Coach)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...RTHOBBYIST.jpghttp://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...leafwagner.jpg



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t206kid 05-04-2019 03:14 PM

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My only one...

CuriousGeorge 05-04-2019 03:57 PM

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My Wags

Rhotchkiss 05-04-2019 04:04 PM

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Awesome cards so far. And since my W600 just got upstaged...:)

CuriousGeorge 05-04-2019 04:17 PM

Never upstaged, your beauty is incredible.

Rhotchkiss 05-04-2019 04:34 PM

I know, just messin. Thanks!

Ian, that Nadja blank is awesome; Dean, I always love your Wagners (and taste generally); Jay, great centering on the CJ; Steven, that W600 is perfect.

So many great cards Wagners so far, keep’em coming!

scooter729 05-04-2019 04:58 PM

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Great thread!

sb1 05-04-2019 05:08 PM

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Still one of my favorites and I have had nearly all of them from the T206 on down, this one of a kind and fairly large size. You will see the Horner image still has the PITTSBURGH on the jersey, normally removed on most card issues.

RCMcKenzie 05-04-2019 06:39 PM

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"Whoa, you have an Honus Wagner baseball card? Why do you have that just sitting around on a desk? I thought those are worth a lot of money?"

"They are."

Yastrzemski Sports 05-04-2019 06:51 PM

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prestigecollectibles 05-04-2019 07:41 PM

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I won this Wagner card in the 2007 National Mastro Auction for a client of mine. This is the closest I'll ever get to owning one.

bobfreedman 05-04-2019 08:19 PM

Mine
 
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A couple Wagner items that I own:

oldjudge 05-04-2019 10:22 PM

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Working on an M101-4/5 back run. Notice that there are two Famous and Barrs. Wagner is one of a few high number cards that comes both as an M101-5, and a much rarer M101-4.

oldjudge 05-04-2019 10:22 PM

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And some more:

Kawika 05-04-2019 10:42 PM

My best Wagners . . .

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika...M110Wagner.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika...0Wagner_13.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika...4%20Wagner.JPG

Rhotchkiss 05-05-2019 07:05 AM

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Jay, that m101-4/5 back run, is 1000% awesome. I knew you were working on the run, but had never seen them all together like that. That has to be one of the tougher and coolest back runs out there; the Altoona Tribune is especially cool, I think.

Here are couple other Wagners

Kris19 05-05-2019 07:20 AM

Wagner
 
Scott, I don’t think I’ve ever seen that one! Nice! Will you please post an image of the back?

Vintageclout 05-05-2019 07:28 AM

Wagners
 
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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1875205)
And some more:

Jay, congrats to you....that is an amazing Wagner M101-4/5 back run!

Joe T.

sb1 05-05-2019 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris19 (Post 1875245)
Scott, I don’t think I’ve ever seen that one! Nice! Will you please post an image of the back?

The back is blank. It is part of a group of 1909 Pirates, that I purchased well over a decade ago. They appear to be cut from some type of box?? They are period clay coated paper/cardboard stock, to date no one seems to know their origin.


I will post a pair of the others(I have eleven players and Fred Clarke).

calvindog 05-05-2019 08:13 AM

How could you forget the Voskamp? My favorite.

oldjudge 05-05-2019 08:51 AM

Thanks Ryan and Joe! Back runs are fun.

sb1 05-05-2019 08:52 AM

I like the M110 the best so far!

Gobucsmagic74 05-05-2019 09:36 AM

E106 & e95
 
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My two Wagners

jerrys 05-05-2019 09:48 AM

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t206fanatic 05-05-2019 10:14 AM

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My best Hans

kkkkandp 05-05-2019 10:24 AM

Something a Little Different
 
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First, a slightly long story about how I got these...

Richard Gilbert Potter was a salesman and sometime photographer who collected Louisville local history photographs from the period 1880 to 1930 and took his own photos through the 1960s. Potter then copied and peddled the images for use as decoration in many Louisville businesses, hotels, and restaurants. The photographs document Louisville street scenes, historic buildings, Louisville mayors, the Potter family, celebrities, sporting events, including horse racing at Churchill Downs, and local professional and amateur baseball.

Several of his photos were sent by Potter personally to John Weyhing, nephew of the Old Judge Weyhings, John and Gus, who were from Louisville. John was a priest and well-known around town since he was a chaplain for several local organizations as well as Churchill Downs. Potter would have known that John was Gus' nephew.The first photo is a picture of Gus Weyhing with Honus and the second, as you can see, is Honus with Dick Potter. Upon his passing, John's brother, Ed took possession of the photos. Ed died three years ago. Ed was my friend. His wife Mary recently came across the photos and knew that I would enjoy having them both because of the link to baseball and because it would be a link for me to Ed. In addition to the photos of Honus I've included one of the latter-day Weyhing boys...

yanksfan09 05-05-2019 11:36 AM

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obcmac 05-05-2019 12:26 PM

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One of my favorites...

Kawika 05-05-2019 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1875258)
How could you forget the Voskamp? My favorite.

Didn't forget. Sold it last year in an LOTG auction. [Paid for a coach tour of Ireland for my wife and me. I can live with that.] Deliberated whether to post it. Wasn't sure of the protocol. Anyway here it is.

https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika...p%20Wagner.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/kawika...em_11873_2.jpg

commishbob 05-05-2019 01:02 PM

I have nothing to add other than my thanks to all who have post these terrific cards, many of which are new to me.

Exhibitman 05-05-2019 01:28 PM

well I got nothing that hasn't been done better already except this:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20premium.jpg

dplath 05-05-2019 02:16 PM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bd21c799e3.jpg


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dplath 05-05-2019 02:17 PM

Also, this one:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7f56d52255.jpg


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ValKehl 05-05-2019 03:34 PM

Absolutely amazing eye candy in this thread! Jay, your M101 back run is my favorite - I can only dream about getting this far with my M101 WaJo back run! It appears to me that SGC has incorrectly identified a couple of your cards as being 1917 issues. Ryan, I agree that the Altoona Tribune is special, but to me, Jay's Mall Theatre card of Hans is even more special.

oldjudge 05-05-2019 03:41 PM

Thanks Val! It has been fun to put together and it is not finished yet. I agree with you and Ryan that the Tribune and Mall Theatre cards are special. However, my favorite is the Wares since the store was very close to where I grew up in the Bronx. Also, if you remember The Dick Van Dyke Show, fictional characters Rob and Laura Petrie (Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore) lived in New Rochelle.

ullmandds 05-05-2019 04:35 PM

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great wagses everyone...my only 1 these days...the tough e90-1 throwing.

x2drich2000 05-05-2019 05:44 PM

Pretty common front, not so common back.

https://live.staticflickr.com/978/40...ee9fccf3_c.jpg

Rhotchkiss 05-05-2019 05:50 PM

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Awesome DJ. Here is another with a cleaner back. This may be the only time you see back to back E92 Nadja Wagner Batting card’s

George 05-05-2019 05:59 PM

Wagner Orange Borders
 
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Here are my Orange Border Wagners.Attachment 352137

CobbSpikedMe 05-05-2019 06:25 PM

That PSA 1 Orange Borders Wagner is simply amazing. Thanks for sharing that one. Why is it only a 1 by the way?

George 05-05-2019 06:43 PM

Orange Borders
 
I have no idea why this particular card is rated at only a 1. But I must say that, of the Orange Borders that I have seen, 1 is an unusually high number. I do not think that I have ever seen an Orange Border with a higher number. It may have something to do with cards that are hand cut. Of course, this did not seem to have a bad effect on the original Mastro T206 Wagner.........

tedzan 05-05-2019 06:46 PM

Some really great stuff on display in this thread.

It is time to enhance this Wagner extravaganza with this "baby".....


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rStripX19x.jpg


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MVSNYC 05-05-2019 08:42 PM

Ted, are you now the owner of the proof strip?

ullmandds 05-05-2019 08:49 PM

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Ted, are you now the owner of the proof strip?

That looks like a copy

MVSNYC 05-05-2019 08:50 PM

Or just a poor quality scan. Wasn't sure if Ted owns it or not.

Rhotchkiss 05-05-2019 09:27 PM

Ted, that’s a great Bowerman

tedzan 05-06-2019 06:21 AM

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Ted, are you now the owner of the proof strip?

Of course not, Mike.

I took a picture of it several years ago and what I have posted is a scan of that picture.


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calvindog 05-06-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by George (Post 1875400)
I have no idea why this particular card is rated at only a 1. But I must say that, of the Orange Borders that I have seen, 1 is an unusually high number. I do not think that I have ever seen an Orange Border with a higher number. It may have something to do with cards that are hand cut. Of course, this did not seem to have a bad effect on the original Mastro T206 Wagner.........

Here's a couple:

https://live.staticflickr.com/3060/2...d7d5ccf1_z.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/5099/5...636ed355_z.jpg

calvindog 05-06-2019 08:44 AM

https://live.staticflickr.com/1879/2...b584e386_c.jpg


https://live.staticflickr.com/1890/4...7f6c6da5_c.jpg

packs 05-06-2019 09:08 AM

How about a Wagner signed card?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...42e7df48ae.jpg

Bugsy 05-06-2019 11:56 AM

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A 1915 premium

MVSNYC 05-06-2019 12:20 PM

Ted, wasn't sure, just thought I'd ask.

I was at the Halper/Sotheby's sale 20 years ago (wow, time flies), and I think it went for around $85k then.

Chris- I love that 1915 Wagner premium, great image of him.

ATL 05-06-2019 07:40 PM

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Not sure I've seen another example of this J=K Wagner...the headless Wagner.

Rhotchkiss 05-06-2019 11:42 PM

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That headless Wagner is wild, and I especially love how they put the card in a smaller gasket, as if that was the normal size of the card..

Andrew1975 05-07-2019 06:02 AM

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Sole Wagner in my collection...


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gabrinus 05-07-2019 09:02 AM

E94 Blomes Wagner
 
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Here's one with a Blomes back...Jerry...

WillowGrove 05-07-2019 09:37 PM

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Such great cards in this thread. Jeff L., that "Two of a Kind" PC with Ty and Honus is great - and so tough to find.

I don't own many Honus cards but somehow I can post one that hasn't been up yet -

Side question - has anyone ever seen a Honus Virginia Extra?

Baseball Rarities 05-07-2019 10:46 PM

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Really enjoy seeing the awesome variety of Honus Wagner cards in this thread. Here is another postcard for the virtual collection, from the 1908 American League Publishing set. I love that this postcard combines a great batting pose along with Horner's famous portrait of Wagner.

The "Pat Herbst, Cigars" overprint is the only one that I have ever seen. I guess that it can be considered a tobacco card. LOL

pcoz 05-08-2019 07:44 AM

Wags
 
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A few of my favorites...

T206Collector 05-08-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1875503)
How about a Wagner signed card?

Okay...

<img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/756/32332295595_b5ee863402_b.jpg" width="641" height="1024" alt="Wagner_M116_SGC_A"></a>

bobbvc 05-08-2019 02:30 PM

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Not a card, but a favorite.

CobbSpikedMe 05-08-2019 09:23 PM

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A few of my favorites...

Pete,

That 1910 E-Unc is my favorite Wagner card. I love seeing it posted anytime. :D

Andy

Rhotchkiss 05-09-2019 06:59 AM

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Some truly amazing cards/pieces here indeed- a virtual museum of Mr. Wagner. Let’s keep it rolling. Cut a deal and a check on this but not yet in hand, so I will post it here but reserve a second posting for May pickups when appropriate.
The very rare 1911 Baltimore Newsboy version

ullmandds 05-09-2019 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1876224)
Some truly amazing cards/pieces here indeed- a virtual museum of Mr. Wagner. Let’s keep it rolling. Cut a deal and a check on this but not yet in hand, so I will post it here but reserve a second posting for May pickups when appropriate.
The very rare 1911 Baltimore Newsboy version

that's a toughie! whats the pop on that???? at this rate you will have to eventually add a t206 to your growing wags rarity collection!!!! or maybe t206 is too common!!!!

Rhotchkiss 05-09-2019 07:29 AM

Thanks Pete! I do want a T206 Wagner and that is my ultimate goal (not sure I am ready for it yet, however). In the meantime, I will acquire what I can, and try to continue to build out a cool Wagner collection.

Regarding the Newsboy, there are two graded Wagners -- a PSA 3 and this SGC 3 - based on pop reports and I am not sure if they are the same card. PSA has only graded 23 total Newsboys. I am not sure about SGC, but I have to imagine its at least that many and likely double. My guess is there are 50-70 graded and your guess is as good as mine on ungraded. As you know, they were handed out only in 1911 and only in Baltimore to boys that delivered the Baltimore News newspaper. The goals was to collect the whole set (I think same as E94) and to turn them in for a $1.

pcoz 05-10-2019 04:16 AM

Wags
 
Thanks Andy! Ryan, truly an amazing pickup, thanks for sharing, congrats!!!

BLongley 05-10-2019 08:28 AM

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My contribution... got this from Pete last year... thanks Pete!

robertsmithnocure 05-12-2019 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1876231)
Regarding the Newsboy, there are two graded Wagners -- a PSA 3 and this SGC 3 - based on pop reports and I am not sure if they are the same card. PSA has only graded 23 total Newsboys. I am not sure about SGC, but I have to imagine its at least that many and likely double. My guess is there are 50-70 graded and your guess is as good as mine on ungraded. As you know, they were handed out only in 1911 and only in Baltimore to boys that delivered the Baltimore News newspaper. The goals was to collect the whole set (I think same as E94) and to turn them in for a $1.

Ryan - love the M131 Newsboy Wagner. These cards are so rare and do not always get the credit that they deserve.

There is another SGC 3 out there too. It is sort of an SGC graded near set (missing 2).

Rhotchkiss 05-14-2019 04:34 AM

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Very nice cards Pete and Brian. And that Wagner auto is awesome.

Here is the e92+ Wagner back run I am working on. Thanks to Patrick for putting the picture together like this, and thanks to many board members for helping with several of these cards.

gabrinus 05-14-2019 10:50 AM

Nice thread
 
Nice thread...all great cards...seeing two Nadja Wagners is incredible...Jerry

T206Collector 05-14-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1877505)
Very nice cards Pete and Brian. And that Wagner auto is awesome.

Here is the e92+ Wagner back run I am working on. Thanks to Patrick for putting the picture together like this, and thanks to many board members for helping with several of these cards.

I love the back run, especially as it is presented in this pic. Really nice - and hard to find all those cards! That's some accomplishment!


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