Remembering The Legends (or legends for the wrong reasons)
 

Let’s make a trivial train of players, by creating a brief autobiographical clue including several facts or hints but not the name. Let the player tell his own story. The member who identifies the unknown legend may then post another unknown and the cycle is repeated. I will start with legend number one.

#1 - “Let me buy you a drink, this round is on me. I may have seen you before, but I really can’t see, so I’m not really not sure. I was the Aroldis Chapman of baseball well before he was born. Who I am?”

1. RYNE DUREN
2. JOHN MONTGOMERY WARD
3. CAP ANSON
4. HUGH JENNINGS
5. HARRY STOVEY
6. JOHNNY LUSH
7. JIMMY SHECKARD
8. EDDIE WAITKUS
9. EDDIE GAEDEL
10. JOE CLEARY
11. JOE JUDGE
12. JOHNNY DICKSHOT
13.
14.

Ryne Duren

In case I am right I will add the next:

Perfect lawyer Helen war
You have my career and a little more
Who am I?

Apologies in advance on this one if anyone is sensitive to the topic. That said, this is an easy one.

1) I was a great hitter and manager,

2) My middle name was the name for a film starred by Keanu Reeves, and

3) I used my name to create the color barrier.

okay,

I'm a hall of famer. My next clue would give it away.

Cap Anson

Yup

I think the point was to give clues for a "not" famous player, such as a HOFer?

I was best man at John McGraw's wedding. In fact, we were teammates with one of the great 19th century ball teams. Who am I?

You guys didn't read Frank's instructions. Only the one who guesses correctly can post a new quiz. Till you guess mine you can't add new ones or this becomes a cluster f--k.

Troy Mason

John, your's is Jennings, but I don't want to add one until I know if your answer was correct. I will wait until tomorrow.

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Totally correct; it is ole' Heeyaah himself. Time for bed and hope the card fairy might have put a T206 Plank under my pillow.

Ah, no

John Montgomery Ward married Helen Dauvray and then became a lawyer

Frank knows...or should know...from his Net 54 around the world thread that hardly anyone here bothers with directions or stinking rules

There’s a peculiar irony in “stinking rules” that no one gives a shit about. Carry on.

Power and speed before a man had either
But they say my league was thin
So I went to another
And then another
But I'm still waiting to get in


Who am I?

Great job Packs!

Tony Mullane?

Harry Stovey?

We have a winner. Mine was Stovey.

Went winless my first season up
The next year undefeated
And at the height of E and T
Was my career completed.

Inebriate by moniker
Was youthful in my prime and
I left the baseball field behind
But I took up the diamond.

...Cluster Frank?

LOL, Johnny Lush. He sold jewelry to rich people in Hawaii after he left baseball. I defer to the next in line.

Right you are. Any volunteer poet-riddlers?

Glenn!
 

As one who has spent his career studying the history of American poetry, I applaud you! You missed your calling in philosophy! 🧐

Tim

Obscure today,
I led my leagues in many things,
And after my heyday
I even snagged a couple of rings.

At my best
I was more than fit for the Hall,
At my worst,
I could still tell a strike from a ball.

That's quite a compliment. Thank you.

"I nearly left my heart at the edgewater, but not in San Francisco
I both got the lead out and got to lead off thereafter and remain
winless in the Fall."

Extra credit for the one word clue that could replace the paragraph above.:D

A couple different ways to read this one, but I'm gonna go with the morbid approach and guess Ed Delahanty / Niagara?

Edgewater between US and Canada...where he literally left his heart.
Got the "lead out" by taking out a razor on the train, then "lead off" the bridge after getting kicked off the train.
Then went over the "Fall" (Niagara Falls), although I'd say the falls defeated him on that one.

ETA - Ok well Charlie probably got that one, but his was morbid also!

Eddie Waitkus.

Natural? :D

Respectfully you are dead wrong.:eek:

Waitkus right, but natural wrong.

Redford? :D
Wonderboy? :D

Wrong

Wrong

As one of the Phillies in 1950 he was one of the Whiz Kids who were swept the Yankees in the World Series in 1950 so he never won a game in the fall.

Since he was the only Phillie that was shot, an appropriate unique clue for this thread would have been

WHIZBANG. :eek::D

The next clue belongs to Mr. Allen.;)

Tim still has an unsolved poem as well.

Whizbang!
 

That is clever, Frank.

I hate to tell you, though: you seem to be living in an alternate (and preferable) universe in which the Whiz Kids swept the Yankees in 1950, when in ours, they were swept BY the Yankees. Wishful thinking, I guess...

Tim

Fake news or senior moment???

Take your pick.

I've sheepishly edited what I can.:mad::eek:

I'm sorry Frank but since you broke the rules in your own thread (As Jay so eloquently pointed out in Post #10) I technically can't go next. Someone needs to answer Tim's clues correctly and then that person gets to go next. If nobody can correctly answer Tim's riddle (after say a few weeks or so :D ) I will then step back in and furnish the next question. Until then, good luck to everyone trying to figure out the tough one from Tim!

I want to say Dinneen, particularly because of that last line, but I don't know what the couple of rings refer to. I had to look it up, but he has just the one World Series title, and that was during his heyday it seems. Maybe he married twice? Or do I just have the wrong guy?

Sherry Magee?

Magee was all NL. Didn't Ed Walsh umpire briefly?

Peter: He also had a great American Association career after MLB.

Eddie Rommel? He led the AL in eight categories between 1921 and 1928, was on the A's World Series winning teams of 1929 and 1930 even though he didn't play in the 1930 Series, had Hall Of Fame worthy years in 1922 and 1925, and then was an umpire for twenty plus years.

Good guesses but not quite
 

One minor correction that I hope has not been confusing.

The subject played in more than one league but was only a league leader in one.

Wow, Rommel might as well be!
 

Cliff,
That is a brilliant deduction, well done!

My guy is someone else but Cliff is a winner in my book.


Another clue, this one a giveaway:

Why not more stories?
I led the NL in eight categories!
My league record stood for 34 years.
In deserted West Side bars one still hears:
147 in 11!

It's Jimmy Sheckard then, but next turn belongs to Charlie or Cliff.

I didn't guess the right guy and I'm not a good riddler, so I will defer again.

Sorry Glenn, I defer back to you. :D

There are different sizes for cups of coffee,
But I never once swung the lumber.
Played my short career for a single team,
And today they don't wear my number.

Eddie Gaedel?

Bingo!

Once a headliner in the New York Times
Whose record may never be broken
The first third of my career was notorious
In my bar it was considered uproarious.

Johnny vander meer?

I have to give you a no no on that answer.:D

Fair to say he wasn't right-handed?

He was right handed.

Probably not Lefty O'Doul then.

Nor his brother, Righty O’Doul. :D

Joe DiMaggio?

Not a chance, but I see why you might have thought so.

My birthplace rhymes with a US city.;)

80% of my countrymen played their first professional baseball game in the nineteenth century,

but I am not one of them.

Clues embellished in Post #61. The answer should be “a piece of cake” now.

Joe Cleary pitched a third of an inning in 1945 (born in Cork Ireland) and holds the record for highest ERA of any pitcher who retired a batter. Not sure about the bar part, or the NY Times.

His high school team in Manhattan played for city title in 1938 and his name was in the NYT headline for that game. He owned a bar in Manhattan later in life, where his patrons (including a Mr. Sloate) continually mocked his record and his claim to fame.

His career ERA was 189.00.;)

You’re the next riddler Peter.

Despite my name I wasn't one
I played for a different branch
I stood near a man bound for glory
My BA was close to chance

Branch Rickey

Nope.

Joe Judge?

Yes indeed.

Okay, I'll try one, but I won't even attempt it as a catchy limerick. He was born in the same city as me (not that anyone here would know that), he had at the same time, easily, one of the best all time names in baseball but also one of the worst all time nicknames in baseball, although the nickname was his own choice. Playing in the era well before baseball salaries took off, in the off-season he worked in a steel mill. He played sparingly for two teams for four years, spent the next four years in the minors, and then returned to the majors for two more years with a third team. He had by far his best season his final year. After his baseball career was over he owned and ran a tavern in his hometown. His grandson is an actor, who is married to this lovely woman.

His nickname was 'Ugly', and his grandson is John Ducey, who is married to Christina Moore, a cast member of MADtv and That 70's Show.

To me he just looks like a cross between Charles Bronson and Tom Waits. Now Don Mossi, he was ugly.

Right you are! It's Johnny Dickshot, born, raised, and buried in the same city as me (born and raised anyway), Waukegan, Illinois. He chose to be called Ugly, but he had nothing on Mossi, Andy Etchebarren, or David Weathers.

"Ugly Dickshot"? Man, that's below the belt.