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Golfcollector 10-22-2017 06:02 AM

Cards that never were....what would you have liked to see?
 
As a collector of various cards and sports over the years, I have many times wondered why a particular person did NOT appear in a certain set or series of cards.

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but though I would ask, what are some of the 'Cards that never were" of someone that you would have like to have seen produced.
(can be any sport)

Since this is my thread...I will mention two.

Baseball - I would have to say a T205 Sam Crawford. This was the height of his playing days, a beautiful issue, yet sadly...no T205 Wahoo.

As a collector of golf Cards, a 1930 W.D and H.O. Wills - Bobby Jones. They picked Walter Hagen for the issue, but not Jones oddly enough, as by then Walter was pretty much done with highly competitive golf. This was Jones' grand slam year and he was one of the main figures in all of sport much less golf.

Would like to hear your nominations.

Leon 10-22-2017 06:43 AM

1934 Goudey Ruth.....(and not a premium, a regular card)

BradH 10-22-2017 06:56 AM

Stan the Man
 
1951 Bowman Stan Musial and 1952-58 Topps Musial. Has always bugged me that he's not in these sets (he does have a '58 Topps All-Star card, but not a regular issue).

Aquarian Sports Cards 10-22-2017 06:59 AM

T205 Joe Jackson

jasonc 10-22-2017 07:01 AM

T206 Joe Jackson; either portrait or action pose. I bet it would be an expensive card!

Bigshot69 10-22-2017 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1712686)
1934 Goudey Ruth.....(and not a premium, a regular card)

This is a significant gap in the set but do you feel the exclusion of Ruth adds to the desirability of his 4 cards in the 33 set while also increasing the prestige of the #57 Gehrig, the key card to the 34 set?

jasonc 10-22-2017 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradH (Post 1712689)
1951 Bowman Stan Musial and 1952-58 Topps Musial. Has always bugged me that he's not in these sets (he does have a '58 Topps All-Star card, but not a regular issue).

Brad, good choice!

Man, if Musial was in 1952 Topps, that would've been an iconic card!

jmb 10-22-2017 07:11 AM

1915 CJ Ruth, 34 Goudey Ruth, 51 Bowman Joe DiMaggio

mechanicalman 10-22-2017 07:18 AM

33 Delong Babe Ruth
33 Tatoo Orbit Ruth and Gehrig
33 George C Miller Ruth and Gehrig
34 Goudey Mel Ott
E93, 95, or 98 Walter Johnson
T205 Lajoie

irv 10-22-2017 07:25 AM

1952 Topps, Ted Williams, Ralph Kiner, Satchel Paige, Whitey Ford, Nellie Fox, Don Newcomb and of course, Stan Musial.
Dimaggio is another one, although he announced his retirement before the start of the 52 Topps production.

rats60 10-22-2017 07:28 AM

To add to what's here, Honus Wagner in t sets other than t206. 1952T, in addition to Musial, Ted Williams, Ralph Kiner and Satchel Paige. 1953 Bowman was such a beautiful set, but too small. More Hofers including Williams, Mays and Paige. Same for1954 and 1955 Topps, specifically Mantle.

e107collector 10-22-2017 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonc (Post 1712691)
T206 Joe Jackson; either portrait or action pose. I bet it would be an expensive card!

T-206 Joe Jackson portrait would be unbelievable!! imho

CJ Ruth, T205 Wagner

Tony

irv 10-22-2017 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv (Post 1712698)
1952 Topps, Ted Williams, Ralph Kiner, Satchel Paige, Whitey Ford, Nellie Fox, Don Newcomb and of course, Stan Musial.
Dimaggio is another one, although he announced his retirement before the start of the 52 Topps production.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1712700)
To add to what's here, Honus Wagner in t sets other than t206. 1952T, in addition to Musial, Ted Williams, Ralph Kiner and Satchel Paige. 1953 Bowman was such a beautiful set, but too small. More Hofers including Williams, Mays and Paige. Same for1954 and 1955 Topps, specifically Mantle.

Beat ya to it, Rats. :D

There are more listed here but I guess they have to draw the line somewhere.
http://www.1952toppsbaseballcards.com/

Bigshot69 10-22-2017 07:57 AM

How about a ‘41 Play Ball Satchel Paige KC Monarchs mail in short print?

edjs 10-22-2017 08:31 AM

T211 Joe Jackson

SMPEP 10-22-2017 09:01 AM

1923 W572 Walt Barbare ... oh, wait ... it "exists". ;-)

trdcrdkid 10-22-2017 10:12 AM

T205 or T207 Grover Cleveland Alexander.

jbl79 10-22-2017 10:16 AM

1933 Goudey Josh Gibson
1933 Goudey Satchel Paige
1933 Goudey Greenberg
1934-36 Diamond Stars Ruth
1934-36 Diamond Stars Gehrig
1938 Goudey Gehrig
1939 Play Ball Gehrig
1941 Play Ball Musial
1948 Bowman Williams
1949 Bowman Williams

...and its been mentioned but would've loved to have seen a 52 Topps and 53 Bowman Color Ted Williams.

rats60 10-22-2017 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv (Post 1712703)
Beat ya to it, Rats. :D

There are more listed here but I guess they have to draw the line somewhere.
http://www.1952toppsbaseballcards.com/

~3 minutes. You posted while I was typing my list. At least great minds think alike.:D How great would the 400+ card 1952 Topps set be if it actually included all the best players of that time? Especially the 2 best players in the game at the time.

sflayank 10-22-2017 10:26 AM

Cards that shouldve been
 
1968 topps 3d mickey mantle
1955 armour coins of jackie and campy

Piratedogcardshows 10-22-2017 10:58 AM

For me it would be

T210 & T209-2 Jim Thorpe
T210 Cowan Richmond same pose as his T209 will do!

cdn_collector 10-22-2017 11:16 AM

First thing that comes to mind for me is a Cracker Jack George Gibson.
Sure wish he was in one (or both) of those sets.

Cheers,

Richard.

avery1328 10-22-2017 11:35 AM

1957 Killebrew

rhettyeakley 10-22-2017 11:57 AM

The two I would love to see...

T209-2 Jim Thorpe
Zeenut Ted Williams (Doerr too I suppose)

judsonhamlin 10-22-2017 12:05 PM

Old Judge Frank Grant
Batter Up Gehrig
33 Goudey Mack
50 Bowman Al Simmons

oldjudge 10-22-2017 12:35 PM

1890 Old Judge Player’s League John Ward

felada 10-22-2017 01:17 PM

OJ Fleetwood walker and one arm daily. N173 spotted ties and browns champs

Mayo cy young

paul 10-22-2017 02:02 PM

1948-51 Bowman Joe DiMaggio
1948-55 Bowman Hal Newhouser
1939-40 Play Ball Dizzy Dean with Cubs
So many other Play Balls, like Appling, Billy Herman, Gabby Hartnett, 1939 Foxx and Gehrig, etc.

bnorth 10-22-2017 02:30 PM

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Like has already been mentioned a Ted Williams in the sets he is missing from. Here is a custom 52 Topps Ted Williams made by a fellow member. It is one of the nicest I have seen.:)

MacDice 10-22-2017 02:51 PM

1957 Jackie Robinson in a giants uniform

bobbvc 10-22-2017 02:59 PM

T206 Wagner action shot. Also a T204, T205 and T3 Wagner.

bobbvc 10-22-2017 03:01 PM

T206 team cards would have been pretty neat also. Although probably hard to recognize individual players.

brianp-beme 10-22-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbvc (Post 1712868)
T206 team cards would have been pretty neat also. Although probably hard to recognize individual players.

I think T3 team cards would be a great size and would be really interesting to see.

Brian

ksfarmboy 10-22-2017 03:28 PM

1955/1956 Brooks Robinson
T206 Joe Wood

JollyElm 10-22-2017 03:44 PM

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This would've been nice...

Attachment 292030

boneheadandrube 10-22-2017 03:48 PM

T218 Baseball series or more T227 Baseball subjects. A t204 Cobb and Matty would be something also...

Steve D 10-22-2017 05:39 PM

1936/37 Zeenut Ted Williams!


Steve

glynparson 10-22-2017 06:02 PM

1951 Bowman Eddie Gaedel
1965 Satchel Paige
1946 sports exchange Pete Gray

I guess either the Handel or Paige could have been one year later in which case make it a 1952 topps Eddie Gaedel, sports exchange is multiple years so it would still apply


Also diamond star Ruth and Gehrig and 1934 goudey Ruth.

Rich Falvo 10-22-2017 07:02 PM

Like many others, I'd love to see the missing Williams, Mantle, and Musial cards from 52-56. Williams especially - like others whose careers overlapped the wars, he has relatively few cards for such a long career.

paul 10-22-2017 09:25 PM

One other card that would have been nice would be a 1947 Tip Top of Willard Brown with the St. Louis Browns.

cardcountry 10-22-2017 09:40 PM

54 Topps Mantle
55 Topps Mantle
52 Topps Williams
34 Goudey Ruth

aljurgela 10-22-2017 09:47 PM

Any...
 
Negro league card actually issued in America. While I love all the Latin. Cards, it always makes me sad to think that all the amazing players were never commerated in USA cardboard. Imagine... Gibson, Paige, Wells’s, leoanard, Williams.... etc. WOW.

Baseball Rarities 10-22-2017 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 1712984)
Negro league card actually issued in America. While I love all the Latin. Cards, it always makes me sad to think that all the amazing players were never commerated in USA cardboard. Imagine... Gibson, Paige, Wells’s, leoanard, Williams.... etc. WOW.

+1 The only thing that we really have are the early 1930’s Harrison Real Photo Postcards and they are certainly not a prototypical baseball card.

sago 10-22-2017 10:19 PM

N173 Cap Anson in Uniform
Ty Cobb back cards of his 3 other T-206's

boneheadandrube 10-22-2017 10:46 PM

A 1914-15 Cracker Jack mail-in premium set of some kind. In color print on something like M110 paper stock. Oooh..:cool:

Andrew1975 10-23-2017 04:52 AM

T206 Tris Speaker portrait
T206 Smoky Joe Wood

Vintageclout 10-23-2017 05:50 AM

Cards that Never Were
 
Here's my wish list in no particular order of significance although I think a majority of the hobby would agree that the most incredible card would be a 1915 Cracker Jack Babe Ruth "true" rookie card.

Joe T.

1915 CJ Ruth
1933 DeLong Ruth
1934 Goudey Ruth
T206 Jackson
T206 Speaker w/M116 Portrait Pose
T204 Cobb, Wagner & Matty
E94 Matty & Jackson
T227 Matty, WoJo & Jackson (wow...those would be amazing!)
E126 Gehrig
Various major "E" cards of Walter Johnson

bobbyw8469 10-23-2017 06:22 AM

1954 Topps Mantle.

bbcard1 10-23-2017 06:27 AM

Agreed on the 1954 and 1955 Topps Mantle. One that I would like to see is a 1963 Topps Maury Wills. Not only was it a significant and revolutionary season, I have met Wills a few times and have found him to be nice and courteous, which is the opposite of his described persona.

judsonhamlin 10-23-2017 07:49 AM

Also

T222 Speaker, Mathewson & Lajoie

pitchernut 10-23-2017 12:59 PM

1917 Anything
 
Any brand C, D, E type card of Ernie Koob:confused:

GasHouseGang 10-23-2017 03:18 PM

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Here's a couple of fantasy cards copied from another thread that I would have liked to see. Sorry they aren't all prewar.

JollyElm 10-23-2017 03:20 PM

Those 1972 IA's are more of mine.

GasHouseGang 10-23-2017 03:24 PM

I would have given you credit, but I didn't know where I copied them from.:)

packs 10-23-2017 03:32 PM

Lou Gehrig Diamond Stars

JollyElm 10-23-2017 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 1713189)
I would have given you credit, but I didn't know where I copied them from.:)

All original creations, fine sir. :)

Leon 10-24-2017 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1713198)
All original creations, fine sir. :)

'34 Ruth rocks.....

gabrinus 10-24-2017 07:52 AM

listed
 
Some of these are checklisted but not seen......Tango Eggs Wagner, E92 Nadja Cobb, D303 Mothers Bread Cobb, T206 Hustler.....Jerry

WWG 10-24-2017 01:07 PM

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1977 Topps Hank Aaron

darwinbulldog 10-24-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonc (Post 1712694)
Brad, good choice!

Man, if Musial was in 1952 Topps, that would've been an iconic card!

People would call it his rookie card.

quitcrab 10-24-2017 01:42 PM

A 1956 Topps Brooks Robinson !!!

darwinbulldog 10-24-2017 01:42 PM

W600 Walter Johnson

T206Collector 10-24-2017 02:11 PM

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T206 Babe Adams

The guy started and won three games for the Pirates in the 1909 World Series against Ty Cobb's Tigers, pitching 3 complete games, one of which was a shutout, with an ERA of 1.33.

terjung 10-24-2017 05:52 PM

I'll play.

E107 Sam Crawford
E107 Jesse Burkett

Rich Klein 10-25-2017 02:18 AM

1980 Topps Thurman Munson (In Memoriam) --

1968 Topps Reggie Jackson (That card should have existed)

1964 Topps Stan Musial

1974 Topps Willie Mays so his last card would not have been a World Series Highlight Card

1969 Topps Eddie Mathews

1964 Topps Jay Dahl

There are others but at 3 AM that's all I can remember

leaflover 10-25-2017 03:00 AM

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Too bad this card wasn't part of the original 1953 B/W Bowman set.

Touch'EmAll 10-25-2017 09:24 AM

few ...
 
1939 Playball J. Foxx
1939 Playball L. Grove
1971 Topps Coins Nolan Ryan

orly57 10-25-2017 09:26 AM

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I was on the metro on the way to court this morning. A lot of bouncing around for photoshop, but I had time to kill.

paulcarek 10-25-2017 11:04 AM

'56 Topps Frank Robinson

Baseball Rarities 10-25-2017 11:30 AM

I would love to see a Rose Co. Postcard of Tris Speaker. This card has been listed on checklists in the past, but I doubt that it actually exists. If he does exist, he would certainly be part of the "no team" series that was issued in 1909.

Baseball Rarities 10-25-2017 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog (Post 1713492)
W600 Walter Johnson

+1 It makes no sense why this card was never made.

SAllen2556 10-25-2017 11:40 AM

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N28 Dan Brouthers (One of the best hitters of his era)
N28 Sam Thompson
T205 Sam Crawford (There's gotta be a story as to why he's omitted. It makes absolutely no sense)

And, of course, there should be a 1976 Topps Mark Fidrych - at least a little tiny rookie version.

-That was my '34 Goudey Ruth by the way.

Attachment 292388
Attachment 292389

Yoda 10-25-2017 11:44 AM

1951--'53 Bowman, Jackie Robinson

Stonepony 10-26-2017 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaflover (Post 1713674)
Too bad this card wasn't part of the original 1953 B/W Bowman set.

I made that card and set:)

rats60 10-26-2017 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaflover (Post 1713674)
Too bad this card wasn't part of the original 1953 B/W Bowman set.

I would rather keep him in the color set. It is his best looking card in my opinion.

the 'stache 10-26-2017 10:56 PM

1934 Goudey Babe Ruth
T206 Tris Speaker portrait
T206 Shoeless Joe Jackson
1952 Topps Stan Musial
1952 Topps Ted Williams
1953 Bowman Hank Aaron (Braves should have brought him up a year earlier, dang it!)

WWG 10-27-2017 06:59 AM

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1952 Topps DiMaggio

pawpawdiv9 10-27-2017 10:58 AM

1948 Leaf-Gehrig
https://lelands.com/images_items/item_84665_1.jpg
1951 Bowman-Joe Jackson
https://lelands.com/images_items/item_84960_1.jpg
1958 Topps- Ruth
https://lelands.com/images_items/item_84959_1.jpg

Golfcollector 10-28-2017 02:03 PM

Chris, cool cards...did you make those?

pawpawdiv9 10-28-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfcollector (Post 1714740)
Chris, cool cards...did you make those?

They were up for auction, Ended last night in Lelands. Got some nice prices on them too. Lots #648-650
here is the link to the page: https://lelands.com/Lots/Gallery?page=3


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