T205 collectors
 

Just an update on my set. The last year i slowed down on my t205 set but just picked up 7 cards this week, including a baker. Which brings my number to 116.

Would love to know how everyone else is progressing

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Steve - good luck moving forward! I started the set in December 2014. Right now I'm at 77 cards, including:

Commons: 51/140 (36%)
Uncommons: 5/16 (31%)
Minor Leaguers: 6/12 (50%)
HOFers: 10/28 (35%)
Short Prints: 2/18 (11%)
Variations: 2/14 (14%)
Total Basic: 77/208 (37%)
Total Master: 77/222 (34%)

I also have 11/17 possible backs. Can you tell I also got organized this year? :)

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Sovereigns
 

I completed the basic set many years ago, still raw and in my binder. The last few years, I have been working on a Sovereign-only set. There are 123 cards with Sovereign backs, and I still need 21 of them (plus upgrades, but that's for another day!). It is, and always will be, my favorite set!

Take Care,
Geno

I am down to 5 cards. I have been trying to do psa/sgc 5 or better, so I will have upgrading to do once I find those. It has been really slow going as I get close.

Completed my low-grade set last month. All raw and in a binder with the exception of my Joss, Cobb, and WaJo. I started picking up low-grade commons and beaters when I was trying to complete my T206 set last year and just stuck with it.

I have to admit that I wasn't that enamored with the cards in the beginning. It was more of a side project for me. But unlike T206 where you'll get some 'dogs' in terms of the artwork, the artwork in the T205s is incredible throughout the entire set. They are great looking cards - the Mathewson is by far my favorite in any of the ATC sets.

The next task for me has been to start adding some of the errors on top of my basic 208-card set (I have eight so far) and upgrading since my set is mostly low-grade.

Slowed
 

I have a SGC master set going but it has slowed to a crawl.
I have not added any new holes but have upgraded some this year.

I have a few more to send in to get graded...or I will just seek those already graded since the raw ones I have are low grade.

I have primarily mid grade commons (SGC 40/50/60) and low grade stars (SGC10/20). I love the way they look in the black slabs.

I have a really good start on a second set, maybe 35-40% but I don't know if I am serious about doing it again. I probably will since this remains my all-time favorite set and I tend to hoard my favorites :o

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I might collect a low grade raw set too, since they look great all together.
With the ~ 260 or so slabbed cards I have in this set, it takes up a lot of space and weight. The raw ones I have are in top loaders and are in a small box, that's appealing in some ways too.

Completed my first set (minus the hobby no stats) several years ago in low to mid grade. My second front only set is decidedly low grade (wanted complete readable cards but the lowest condition/price I could find). I do have an example of every back advertiser including a couple of blank backs. I hoard this set but it has slowed with the birth of my son last year and some job issues this year....hope to start up again at some point but who knows.

Joshua

Collecting a T205 Cubs Front/ back variation subset. There are 151 possible
Cards and I have 116 of the various cards. Mine are all SGC graded and love the challenge. Cards are getting harder to find but that happens.

Ken

Have been collecting them off & on for years! I have 206 different front/back variations, without regard to advertising!

If I counted correctly, I STILL have ~22 to go for a Master Set, but then what???

I have been REALLY enjoying "The Hunt" tho....

I have always said the hunt is a lot, if not most, of the fun I have had in collecting. The journey can be great if you let it be....

I remember seeing a spreadsheet with all various front/back combinations for the T-205's. I've been looking for it but cant seem to find it. Can anyone help??

I had the spreadsheet at one time but I modified it to only be for the Cubs. Got it from another board member here.

hey just an fyi - there are 18 backs : :eek:

Piedmont Blue25 –
Polar Bear –
Sweet Caporal Red –
Sweet Caporal Black 25 –
Sweet Caporal Black 42 –
Hassan Green – 649 –
Honest Long Cut –
Sovereign -
Cycle –
Hassan green 30 –
Peidmont Blue 42 –
American Beauty Black –
American Beauty Green –
Broadleaf Black –
Broadleaf Green –
Hindu –
Drum –
Blank -

I'm working on a Piedmont Factory 42 set. I've got quite a few. Curious how many are possible. I should've printed the sheet out when I saw it.

Yup, I wasn't counting blank. Still not sure if I consider that necessary for a completed back run.

Out of curiosity, does anyone have a good handle on the population of blank-backed T205s - where would the blank back fall on the scarcity list? I assume fewer than Broadleaf, but not sure compared to Drum/Hindu?

ETA - Steve, I take it from your list that Blank is the most rare?

There are 12 Peidmont 42 Cubs cards to my knowledge. I do have a spare but would have to look who he is.

From what im told & have seen blank is the most rare. Drum is supposed to be the the next most rare, but in 4 years im collecting t205's i have seen 10-12 durms for sale but only 1 hindu.

Im no expert though, plenty of guys here can debate that, im missing both in my collection still, along with the blank and the black broadleaf.

I agree that the Hindu seems to be quite a bit more difficult than Drum, at least in terms of what has come up for sale in the last couple years. There is a Hindu right now at REA, that's the first one I can remember seeing for sale.

the 1 hindu i ever saw for sale was on ebay a few years ago and it sold for very cheep imo i think it was like 500 or so - was in good shape too.

You guys are giving me T205 fever!

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Paul, I have it, it's an Excel spreadsheet. Just PM me with your email and I'll send it to you.

Thanks David!! PM sent.

Paul

Paul, it should be in your inbox.:)

Blank is rarest...Hindu next...there was a find of Drum backs in St. Louis several years back and another small find in the south a few years ago that pushed Drum to be more populous than Hindu.

Joshua

Be careful! Once you have the, fever it can be as consuming as chasing the Monster...AND the T205 set is much more doable...

T205's are highly addicting, each one is a piece of 100 year old baseball art.

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Are there any books dedicated to T205s?

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Just one more fun thing aout t205's is the text on the backs which says "400 designs" which is a bit of a mystery as there are only 200 and something cards.

The debate and speculation on if there was supposed to be more that were never printed... why was there so many stars not included?

Or was the designs, part of the bird cards or military set, or both.. which resemble the art work and gold borders.

Ahh the mysterious t205's with 400 designs, 1st cards with stats & bios, beautiful art and fancy gold borders. Like cardboard crack lol :eek:

Trying to figure stuff out, concerning the cards themselves, is a lot of fun. In type card collecting pursuits it can be never ending. The fact there are still so many new cards and variations being found, even in the more mainstream pre-war sets, helps keep it fun for everyone. The journey..

Btw, someone should do an official (could there be such thing) revision to the ACC.

I'm about 60% there, but really haven't added much in 2 years. Only picked up 1 card this year and it is a duplicate.

My son has gotten into cards and I'm spending my money there right now.

PM me a list of what Pied 42's you need. Might have some you need


If anyone is looking for AB's or Pied 42's PM me or email sococamo@gmail.com I also have a few very tough Sp's with Cycle backs

I will Andrew. Thanks!!

For an interesting current market comparison, there was a Hindu and a Drum that ended last night at LOTG. Both were commons, both were SGC 30/2, both were in roughly the same condition. The Drum ended at $1722 and the Hindu ended at $2337, with BP. I thought both of those prices were incredibly strong, certainly more than I was expecting on either one. I think I just got priced out of the Drum/Hindu chase!

Yea sounds about right to me. Any chance u have a screen shot, just love seeing them!

NEEDED T205 PD 42's
 

As I am almost complete on the T206 PD 42's I thought why not look at the T205 PD 42's as well. I need the following cards to finish the common portion of the set:

Bridwell
Gibson
Needham
Steinfeldt

For the HOF's That I may not quite have the $$ for right now:

Evers
Huggins
Marquard
Matty
Wallace

Looking to buy if possible...Thanks

Those r awesome!

T205 Favorites
 

2 of my favorites

Adam- very cool cards! Especially the Huggins.
That is the first T205 blank back I have seen

Wow those r great!

205's
 

Took me a few years to appreciate the T-205's but I do enjoy them and collecting some oddities.

Really slowed down too. I have been trying to get back up and running, but everything else money-wise always seems to come up first!

Dan, not to mention that as I collect T205 HoFers only, now we are talking ONLY the Mordecai Brown Drum (if Leon still owns it) and the Hindu Johnson. Guess I will NEVER have a HoF back complete set.
Dave

By far my favorite T205 (if you can't already tell by my avatar)

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About time...
 

I wondered when you would make an appearance !! You have some great T-205's !!

i agree
 

I agree they both went high... although i do feel hindus are harder to come by and should go for more than the drum The t205 hindu psa5 kling went for $3300 with buyer premium in the last REA... having the funds of course i think that card at $3300 was a better deal than a 2/good for $2330.

In my experience hindus are more difficult... i have only 2 of them and I think 7 drum backs

Awesome cards....I have really been liking the PB backs lately as their front gold borders can be a neat shade of gold....

Picked up my first T205 the other day. What a beautiful set, and they look magnificent in hand. I'm on a pretty tight baseball card budget, so unfortunately it'll only be poor condition cards for me. This one was an impulse buy: the auction was about to close, and I couldn't pass up a Mordecai Brown. I got it for twenty bucks (including shipping), which would be phenomenal for even a poor condition T206 HOFer. Are the T205s that much less popular, or is $20 an ordinary price for a low-grade HOFer?

Post a scan, depends what is looks like.... also congrats on your 1st t205! Its a great set, GL

T205 set
 

I put together a 209-card (including Hoblitzell-No Stats) set 20 years ago. A few years later I sold it, but I kept the 12 - Minor Leaguers.


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Here's a raw set I've been working on for the past couple of years. I think I'm down to six or seven, but I've really lost focus these past few months. Need the biggies, hoping to finish in 2017. Loving this thread, guys, let's keep it going!

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Thanks, Adam! That Broadleaf is truly special.

T205 sub-sets
 

Nowadays, I enjoy the challenge of putting together sub-sets of T205's. For example my A-B-C-D pattern......


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More precisely, this John Lobert A-B-C-D connection (still searching for the DRUM). There are exactly 32 subjects printed with this A-B-C-D pattern.

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Or, looking for GREEN bordered T205's......

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Or, misprints (mis-cuts)......

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TED Z
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Nice
 

Looking good !!

That set is looking great, good luck finishing it out!

your set looks fantastic in binder pages! That is how I have mine.

+1...love T205s.....and when all put together, especially raw, they are stunning displays.

T205
 

Hey.... lower grade collectors! Brake them out and put them in binders...youll like it and believe me it will be fun and it will be OK...Go on do it....Having fun with raw and braking them out ...Thanks again Turner.....about 70% there on my set...

Here's my $20 impulse buy. Pretty beat up, but the auction was about to end and it's a T205 HOFer in my price range. Like I said before, you can't find a T206 HOF for that price in any grade, I don't know about T205s. How'd I do? It would be nice if I could keep up with the beautiful cards you guys were showing up thread, but I'll have to make do with well-loved ones. At least it's complete and intact. Polar Bear back, FWIW.

Love 'em!

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I really like this set. I think 2017 will see me buying some T205 HOFers and some E95/96s.

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It is a hot market for low grade but great looking T205s. Maybe that could be said elsewhere too but this is my most recent experience. :(

I try to buy the best looking "low grade" cards I can find, to stay in budget. Here are a few examples...

Nothing wrong with those! That's the kind of stuff I envision for my collection in 2017.

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Make that 76
 

I thought I should post this here. I just picked up this Bergen for my Piedmont Factory 42 set. I realized it wasn't on the spreadsheet from T205.org as a confirmed Factory 42 back.
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Great looking Cobb. That is almost exactly what kind I am looking for. I couldn't agree more on your strategy.

Richard Carleton Hoblitzell x 4
 

Richard Carleton Hoblitzell
1888-1962
Distinguished 11 year Major League Career
Played on 3 World Championship Teams

One of the toughest variations to complete in the T205 Master Set.

Posting the four Hoblitzell variations for the enjoyment of T205 collectors
with my recent addition of the “No Stats”.

1. Easy to find “Cin.” After 2nd 1908 in Stats
2. Hard to find Name Incorrect, No “Cin”
3. Harder to find Correct, No “Cin”
4. Insanely difficult to find No Stats on Back

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great hobby! Congrats!

That Hoblitzell no stat is jaw dropping!!!!!!!

Thanks Leon. I was lucky enough to find that Cobb on eBay awhile ago for a reasonable price.

Love 'em
 

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Completed my set in 1972 less a couple of variations discovered since then. In 71 I bought 1100 T-205 and 206 from a farmer outside Max, ND. (Was able to trade and complete both sets with T-206 missing the big 3). I still have my return letter from Richard Egan, who was THE guy on checklists and info in the 70's-- my Hindu was the first ever reported. They remain my favorite set.

Only 19
 

I picked up #19 this week. All PSA 3.

I love this set but kids in college have put a crimp in my budget for the last 4 years.

Love all the photos and info everyone!

I admit I'm not up to speed on this set, and figure it never hurts to have more t205 talk, so............
a few questions about the checklist:

who are the 16 uncommons?

and, I'm only counting 25 different HOFers, with 5 more variations. Who are the 28?

and what are considered the 14 variations? on the checklist I'm using I have 23 listed. My set attempt is only geared toward 1 card of each player, and I know some players have more than one pose - I guess those aren't considered variations?

Thanks for the help and happy new year!

My set progress:
25 hofers ( I think I have one pose for each hofer)
9 MLers (counted Jimmy Collins in both ML and HOF) (need 3)
4 SPs (counted Joss and Walsh in both SP and HOF) (need 14)
118 commons (need 28)

Here are all of my raw non hofers:

Hey tony heres a good cheklist for you!

http://www.t205.org/filter_set.php

Good checklist in general but definitely misses the mark when you start talking reverses. For the Cubs alone there are 19 different fronts. If you look at front/ back reverses, there are 152 possible cards. I currently have 128 out of 152 possible cards. Obviously some of the cards are harder than others and some more expensive than others. Still fun to collect

T205
 

I've been taking a break from collecting for a while, but I just jumped back in with this Joss. I also keep my cards in a binder, but I don't like the 15 mini card pages. It don't feel like I can put them in and take them out of the pages without damaging them a little. So I take a Card Saver II and cut it down to the size of a standard modern card with scissors. Then I put my card in it and use my FoodSaver vacuum sealer to seal the edges of the cardsaver. Then I put then in standard 9 pocket pages. It's a little work but it's the best thing for me. This allows me to take the cards out of the pages if I want to. And if I accidentally drop one it's no big deal. So far I have 48 T205s, so I've got a long way to go. But I do have a Cobb and Joss as well as several other HOFers and SP,s. I don't think I'm going to go for the back variations. I'd be happy with one of every front.

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I really like what you did with the binder!

This thread could use another blank back

Great looking cards and definitely a consideration....There are so many ways to collect the set you can make it a fun challenge. I am certainly considering it!!