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I found a few cards in my basement.
Hello. I found a T206 collection in my basement and came here to share them with you. I have no idea how much they are worth or what I am going to do with them. Just looking for some information. I will take photos of the backs tomorrow. Thanks!
Link to photos Edit: As you can see there are 10 pics of the front and 11 pics of the back. When I took the photos of the fronts I guess I missed one of the pages (the one with Doyle). I was able to get a pic of the back (pic #11) but at the time I took the pics of the backs I didnt know I had missed a pic of the front. I dont have the cards with me so I wont be able to get a pic of the front tonght. Sorry! Abbaticchio, Pittsburg Abbott, Toledo X2 Absetin, Pittsburg Adkins, Baltimore Alperman, Brooklyn Anderson, Providence X2 Arellanes, Boston Amer X2 Arnot, Providence X2 Atz, Chicago Amer X2 Barry, Phila Amer Beck, Boston Natl Beckley, Kansas City X2 Bender, Phila Amer Bergen, Brooklyn Bescher, Cincinnati X2 Blackburne, Providence Bliss, St. Louis Natl Bowerman, Boston Natl Brain, Buffalo M. Brown, Chicago Natl Burchell, Buffalo Burns, Chicago Amer Butler, Rochester X2 Camnitz, Pittsburgh Campbell, Cincinnati Carr, Indianapolis Carrigan, Boston Amer Casey, Montreal X2 Cassidy, Baltimore Chappelle, Rochester Chase, NY Amer X2 Clark, Columbus Clymer, Columbus Collins, Phila Amer Congalton, Columbus Cravath, Minneapolis X2 Cross, Indianapolis M. Davis, Phila Amer X2 Delehanty, Louisville X2 Debbau, Baltimore Donovan, Detroit Dougherty, Chicago Amer Downey, Cincinnati Doyle, NY Natl Dubuc, Cincinnati Cobb, Detroit Dormer, Kansas City Easterly, Cleveland Egan, Cincinnati Elberfield, NY Amer Ellam, Nashville Engle, NY Amer Fiene, Chicago Amer Flannagan, Buffalo Fletcher, NY Natl Genzel, Rochester Gasper, Cincinnati Grimshaw, Toronto X2 Groom, Washington Guiheen, Portsmouth Hall, Baltimore Hallman, Kansas City Hannifan, Jersey City Hayden, Indianapolis Hinchman, Toledo Hoblitzell, Cincinnati Hoffman, Providence Hoffman, St. Louis Amer Howard, Chicago Natl Howell, St Louis Amer Hulswitt, St Louis Natl Hunter, Brooklyn Kelley, Toronto Knight, NY Amer X2 Krause, Phila Amer Kroh, Chicago Natl Kruger, Columbus LaFitte, Macon Lavender, Providence X2 Leach, Pittsburg X2 Livingstone, Phila Amer McBride, Washington X2 McElveen, Brooklyn McGlynn, Milwaukee Malarkey, Buffalo Maloney, Rochester Marshall, Brooklyn Mathewson, NY Natl X2 Merritt, Jersey City Milan, Washington Miller, Pittsburg Mitchell, Cincinnati Moeller, Jersey City X2 Moran, Providence X2 Moran, Chicago Natl Murray, NY Natl Myers, NY Natl O'Brien, St. Paul Oberlin, Minneapolis O'Neil, Minneapolis Otey, Norfolk Perring, Cleveland Persons, Montgomery X2 Phelan, Providence X2 Phelps, St. Louis Natl Pickering, Minneapolis Poland, Baltimore Powers, Phila Amer Quillen, Minneapolis Randall, Milwaukee Raymond, NY Natl Rhoades, Cleveland Rhodes, St Louis Natl Ritter, Kansas City Rudolph, Toronto X2 Schaefer, Washington Shannon, Kansas City Shaughnessy, Roanoke Shaw, Providence Sheckard, Chicago Natl Shipke, Washington Speaker, Boston Amer Smith, Shreveport Spade, Cincinnati Stanage, Detroit X2 Sweeney, Boston Natl Strang, Baltimore Tannehill, Washington Thielman, Louisville Thomas, Phila Amer Titus, Phila Natl Unglaus, Washington Warhop, NY Amer White, Buffalo Wilson, Pittsburg X2 Young, Cleveland |
You've got a few thousand dollars worth of cards there, assuming that the backs are not totally destroyed. The green Cobb is the most valuable, followed by the Young and the Mathewsons.
Any idea who collected these? Were they in the plastic pages when you found them, or did you put them there? |
Could you post pics of the backs...you will get a lot more info that way.
Cory |
Great find in your basement! I would sell individually on EBay or consign them to an EBay dealer like PWCC (member of this board). If you sell as a group you will get wholesale pricing most likely as that person would break it up. The only thing I would find in my basement is unopened wax from the 80s and a bunch of auction catalogs!
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A rare back will greatly increase the value of the card.
By the way, I didn't see a scan of the Doyle. Is there one and I missed it? |
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If you got a "Joe Doyle" NY Natl with a Red Hindu
back. You can quit your job. Post both side of The card....,, we are curious |
Very interesting. Congrats. Would love to hear more about this find. How were they stored? How long do you think they were there? How is it they went unfound for so long? Who do you think they belonged to?
Do you have any experience with card collecting or this set? You seem to have some experience given the way you listed the cards, knew to scan the backs and fronts, and knew to highlight the green Cobb (in front of a T222 Fatima – is that a reprint or real?) and the Young. Best of Luck! Very cool find. |
And who's on the Fatima card?
And what other cards were there? pretty cool find. Steve B |
You found those in ur basement in card sleeves? Got to believe someone is going to be looking for those.
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I think Love For The Game Auctions specializes in major finds like this. You might contact them if you decide to sell.
R0nnie L3hman |
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How did you just find these cards in your basement, I don't understand.
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Hi Everyone. I am at work, so I am sorry for the short response. I will try ro answer everyones questions when I get home. The cards were like this when I found them. According to my father, my grandfather was in posession of a Wagner card. You guys know who he is right? Again, ill provide more detail later today!
Edit: just to clarify, my father said he had the card but gave it away to a friend a long time ago. Also, I will make sure to take pictures of the backs later today. Edit 2: Asking if you knew who Wagner is was a JOKE. Yes, i know you know who Wagner is... |
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T206s
Why do I get the feeling this thread/story is going to be _________.
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Yeah nothing to see here..
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A dover reprint
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Thank goodness the cards were found in the basement!
Thank goodness the cards were found in the basement, because if he had said "in the attic" I would be skeptical.
Patrick |
Something doesn't quite add up here
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But but but
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...but the key words " grandfather " and " Wagner" were in there..... .. |
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" You know who Wagner is, right? " Here we go everyone...... |
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This looks like it is the same list provided to me in a scam I fell for about 4 or 5 years ago. I sent Western Union money to someone with this list and never heard back. I actually believe I made a post about it on the forums a long time ago. I am not 100% sure, but I am relatively sure...
Name @ bottom of post. |
Yep, fishy.
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Ok, it seems my last post has made everyone skeptical of whether or not these are real. Once I get home and provide more detail it will clear everything up. If I can do something to prove they are real I will. Thanks
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Rob M. |
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Simple suggestion:
With your first card sleeve in the picture, the lower right hand card sleeve is empty. Write "emd023" on it with a sharpie, slap the entire page on top of your local newspaper just under the date. Take that picture and post it. That will take care of many concerns. The only thing left is: do you legally own them. #justryingtohelparoundhere |
Fatima
So, what is that Fatima card? Can you please show a scan of the front?
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Can't wait to see your extremely valuable jeter autographed ball .
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I snapped more pics at lunch today. Ill post them when I get home and shut you skeptics up.
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Speaker
That Tris Speaker looks "Certified High End"
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I call BS on this...
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When you take that picture for proof, just make sure that it doesn't look anything like this one:
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Seriously though, it would be fun if this checks out. To the OP, people come on this board frequently (not to mention Ebay, Craigslist, etc) and try to scam collectors so we have a knee-jerk reaction to big finds by new people. Here's hoping that you have something good!
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Thanks, Leon!
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+this was hilarious. I'm showing the yellow card for this thread. Sounds like big ranch no cattle. |
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Posters are talking like pics were posted, but I don't see any. Am I missing something?
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If one knows they're t206 how do they not know that they're worth a decent chunk of change? |
I could be wrong but if you knew the story it is more believable. I think he is checking on them for a relative. That is really all I can say about it but if he wants to come back and explain more he can. I do think they are real and are close to him. It's not a random troll situation, I don't think. Like I say, I wish him the best. And btw, if he comes back I see no reason he can't only have his user id out here. He picked up the phone when I called :).
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The cards look real to me but I did not see the Doyle NY Natl. I believe that was the card on the list that got everyone's attention.
Nice Find Congrats John P |
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Some basements are better than others .
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Sean, I don't believe your list is the same as the "basement find". I sorted your list and then tried to post them side by side. This is much easier in Excel then on the board! I highlighted the cards that are different in the "basement find". I didn't go through the whole list and make the differences in bold, just the first 10, but you get the idea.
SEAN'S LIST/ Basement Find ABBATICOHIO, PITTSBURG SWEET CAPORAL// Abbaticchio, Pittsburg ABBOTT, TOLEDO SOVEREIGN// Abbott, Toledo X2 ALPERMAN, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Absetin, Pittsburg AMES, N.Y. NAT'L PIEDMONT // Adkins, Baltimore ANDERSON, PROVIDENCE SWEET CAPORAL// Alperman, Brooklyn ATZ, CHICAGO AMER. SWEET CAPORAL// Anderson, Providence X2 BASTIAN, SAN ANTONIO PIEDMONT // Arellanes, Boston Amer X2 BECK, BOSTON NAT'L PIEDMONT// Arnot, Providence X2 BELL, BROOKLYN OLD MILL// Atz, Chicago Amer X2 BERGEN, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Barry, Phila Amer BLISS, ST.LOUIS NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Beck, Boston Natl BOWERMAN, BOSTON NAT'L PIEDMONT// Beckley, Kansas City X2 BRASHEAR, KANSAS CITY PIEDMONT// Bender, Phila Amer BURCH, BROOKLYN SWEET CAPORAL// Bergen, Brooklyn BUSH, DETROIT PIEDMONT// Bescher, Cincinnati X2 CAMNITZ, PITTSBURG OLD MILL// Blackburne, Providence CAMPBELL, CINCINNATI OLD MILL// Bliss, St. Louis Natl CAREY, MEMPHIS PIEDMONT// Bowerman, Boston Natl CASEY, MONTREAL SWEET CAPORAL// Brain, Buffalo CHANCE, CHICAGO NAT'L OLD MILL// M. Brown, Chicago Natl CHANCE, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Burchell, Buffalo CHASE, N.Y. AMER. PIEDMONT// Burns, Chicago Amer CLANCY, BUFFALO PIEDMONT// Butler, Rochester X2 CLARKE, F., PITTSBURG PIEDMONT// Camnitz, Pittsburgh COLES, AUGUSTA PIEDMONT // Campbell, Cincinnati CONROY, WASHINGTON SWEET CAPORAL// Carr, Indianapolis CRANDALL, N.Y. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Carrigan, Boston Amer CRAVATH, MINNEAPOLIS PIEDMONT// Casey, Montreal X2 DAVIS, H., PHILA. AMER. PIEDMONT// Cassidy, Baltimore DINEEN, ST.LOUIS AMER. SWEET CAPORAL// Chappelle, Rochester DONLIN, N.Y. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Chase, NY Amer X2 DOOLAN, PHILA. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Clark, Columbus DOUGHERTY, CHICAGO AMER. OLD MILL// Clymer, Columbus DOUGHERTY, CHICAGO AMER. OLD MILL// Collins, Phila Amer DOWNEY, CINCINNATI PIEDMONT// Congalton, Columbus DOYLE, N.Y. NAT'L PIEDMONT// Cravath, Minneapolis X2 DUBUC, CINCINNATI PIEDMONT// Cross, Indianapolis DUNN, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// M. Davis, Phila Amer X2 DYGERT, PHILA. AMER. PIEDMONT// Delehanty, Louisville X2 EVANS, ST.LOUIS NAT'L PIEDMONT// Debbau, Baltimore EVERS, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Donovan, Detroit FROMME, CINCINNATI SWEET CAPORAL// Dougherty, Chicago Amer G.DAVIS, CHICAGO AMER. PIEDMONT// Downey, Cincinnati GANZEL, ROCHESTER PIEDMONT// Doyle, NY Natl GILBERT, ST.LOUIS NAT'L PIEDMONT// Dubuc, Cincinnati GRAY, WASHINGTON PIEDMONT// Cobb, Detroit HART, LITTLE ROCK PIEDMONT// Dormer, Kansas City HAYDEN, INDIANAPOLIS PIEDMONT// Easterly, Cleveland HOBLITZELL, CINCINNATI PIEDMONT// Egan, Cincinnati HOFFMAN, PROVIDENCE PIEDMONT// Elberfield, NY Amer HOOKER, LYNCHBURG PIEDMONT// Ellam, Nashville HOWARD, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Engle, NY Amer HOWELL, ST.LOUIS AMER. SWEET CAPORAL// Fiene, Chicago Amer HULSWITT, ST.LOUIS NAT'L PIEDMONT// Flannagan, Buffalo HUMMEL, BROOKLYN SWEET CAPORAL// Fletcher, NY Natl HUNTER, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Genzel, Rochester JONES, ST.LOUIS AMER. PIEDMONT// Gasper, Cincinnati KIERNAN, COLUMBIA PIEDMONT// Grimshaw, Toronto X2 KILLIAN, DETROIT SWEET CAPORAL// Groom, Washington KISINGER, BUFFALO PIEDMONT// Guiheen, Portsmouth KRUGER, COLUMBUS PIEDMONT// Hall, Baltimore LAKE, ST.LOUIS AMER. OLD MILL// Hallman, Kansas City LENNOX, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Hannifan, Jersey City LINDMAN, BOSTON NAT'L PIEDMONT// Hayden, Indianapolis LUNDGREN, KANSAS CITY SWEET CAPORAL// Hinchman, Toledo MALONEY, ROCHESTER PIEDMONT// Hoblitzell, Cincinnati MARSHALL, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Hoffman, Providence MATHEWSON, N.Y. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Hoffman, St. Louis Amer MCBRIDE, WASHINGTON PIEDMONT// Howard, Chicago Natl MCCORMICK, N.Y. NAT'L PIEDMONT// Howell, St Louis Amer MCELVEEN, BROOKLYN AMERICAN BEAUTY// Hulswitt, St Louis Natl MCGINLEY, TORONTO PIEDMONT// Hunter, Brooklyn MCGINNITY, NEWARK PIEDMONT// Kelley, Toronto MCGRAW, N.Y. NAT'L SOVEREIGN// Knight, NY Amer X2 MCGRAW, NEW YORK NAT'L PIEDMONT// Krause, Phila Amer MCINTYRE, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Kroh, Chicago Natl MCQUILLAN, PHILA. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Kruger, Columbus MERKLE, N.Y. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// LaFitte, Macon MITCHELL, CINCINNATI SWEET CAPORAL// Lavender, Providence X2 MOLESWORTH, BIRMINGHAM OLD MILL// Leach, Pittsburg X2 MULLIN, DETROIT PIEDMONT// Livingstone, Phila Amer MURPHY, PHILA. AMER. OLD MILL// McBride, Washington X2 NICHOLS, PHILA. AMER. PIEDMONT// McElveen, Brooklyn NICHOLS, PHILA. AMER. PIEDMONT// McGlynn, Milwaukee O'HARA, ST.LOUIS NAT'L PIEDMONT// Malarkey, Buffalo OLDRING, PHILA. AMER. PIEDMONT// Maloney, Rochester O'LEARY, DETROIT OLD MILL // Marshall, Brooklyn O'NEIL, MINNEAPOLIS PIEDMONT// Mathewson, NY Natl X2 ORTH, LYNCHBURG PIEDMONT// Merritt, Jersey City OVERALL, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Milan, Washington OWEN, CHICAGO AMER. PIEDMONT// Miller, Pittsburg PELTY, ST.LOUIS AMER. PIEDMONT// Mitchell, Cincinnati PFEFFER, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Moeller, Jersey City X2 PFEISTER, CHICAGO NAT'L OLD MILL// Moran, Providence X2 PHELPS, ST. LOUIS NAT'L PIEDMONT// Moran, Chicago Natl POLAND, BALTIMORE PIEDMONT// Murray, NY Natl PUTTMAN, LOUISVILLE PIEDMONT// Myers, NY Natl QUINN, N.Y. AMER. SWEET CAPORAL// O'Brien, St. Paul RUCKER, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Oberlin, Minneapolis RYAN, ROANOKE PIEDMONT/ / O'Neil, Minneapolis SCHMIDT, DETROIT PIEDMONT// Otey, Norfolk SCHMIDT, DETROIT PIEDMONT// Perring, Cleveland SCHRECK, COLUMBUS PIEDMONT// Persons, Montgomery X2 SHARPE, NEWARK PIEDMONT// Phelan, Providence X2 SHAUGHNESSY, ROANOKE PIEDMONT// Phelps, St. Louis Natl SLAGLE, BALTIMORE PIEDMONT// Pickering, Minneapolis SMITH, SID, ATLANTA PIEDMONT// Poland, Baltimore SPEAKER, BOSTON AMER. PIEDMONT// Powers, Phila Amer STARK, SAN ANTONIO OLD MILL// Quillen, Minneapolis STONE, ST.LOUIS AMER. PIEDMONT// Randall, Milwaukee STOVALL, CLEVELAND PIEDMONT// Raymond, NY Natl STREET, WASHINGTON PIEDMONT// Rhoades, Cleveland SWEENEY, N.Y. AMER. OLD MILL// Rhodes, St Louis Natl TAYLOR, BUFFALO PIEDMONT// Ritter, Kansas City THEBO, WACO PIEDMONT// Rudolph, Toronto X2 THIELMAN, LOUISVILLE PIEDMONT// Schaefer, Washington TINKER, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Shannon, Kansas City WADDELL, ST.LOUIS AMER. PIEDMONT// Shaughnessy, Roanoke WARHOP, N.Y. AMER. PIEDMONT// Shaw, Providence WESTLAKE, DANVILLE PIEDMONT// Sheckard, Chicago Natl WHITE, BUFFALO PIEDMONT // Shipke, Washington WILHELM, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Speaker, Boston Amer WILSON, PITTSBURG PIEDMONT// Smith, Shreveport WILTBE, N.Y. NAT'L PIEDMONT// Spade, Cincinnati WILTSE, N.Y. NAT'L OLD MILL// Stanage, Detroit X2 //Sweeney, Boston Natl //Strang, Baltimore //Tannehill, Washington //Thielman, Louisville //Thomas, Phila Amer //Titus, Phila Natl //Unglaus, Washington /Warhop, NY Amer //White, Buffalo //Wilson, Pittsburg X2 //Young, Cleveland |
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Very cool. You came to the right place to get some info and advice.
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First off I will say I know very little about T206 cards. Second I will say they all look fuzzy and out of focus like counterfeit cards. Never seen a real Piedmont back with stray printer dots like those appear to have.
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Cards look legit to me, very nice. I am just curious at this point to the story behind them. Who finds T206s in plastic sleeves in their own basement? Who's cards were they? Again, best of luck.
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100% real - and awesome - great find!
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Although I don't collect pre-war cards, I am looking forward to following this thread as it unfolds. |
Oh, that poor Tris Speaker card! That hurts to see!
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I want it! Lol |
Updated gallery with backs
Also updated the link on the first page. As you can see there are 10 pics of the front and 11 pics of the back. When I took the photos of the fronts I guess I missed one of the pages (the one with Doyle). I was able to get a pic of the back (pic #11) but at the time I took the pics of the backs I didnt know I had missed a pic of the front. I dont have the cards with me so I wont be able to get a pic of the front tonght. Sorry! I found these cards in my basement. They were collected by my Grandfather and passed down to my father where they were forgotten for a long time (until I found them). I didnt know they existed until I found them. My father said that my Grandfather did have the Wagner card a loooong time ago however he gave it away to a friend :(. The cards were packaged like this when I found them. I have not modified them in any way. I am not sure what I am going to do with them. I did collect cards when I was younger. I have a big box full of baseball, football, and basketball cards from the 70s, 80s, 90s but I havent bothered with them for years. |
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All together now!
We're sorry... In all seriousness, bud, great find. I, like many others, are very interested in the full story behind these cards. Also, I don't know if you have kids or not, and I know you're not a huge card collector, but if you don't need the money at this particular moment in time, I'd hold onto them and pass them down to your kids, and their kids, etc. Not only will they only increase in value (invest in proper protective gear), but they will be a great family "treasure". P.S. I didn't look at the pictures, but is the Doyle in there? If so, congrats on retirement. |
It's all about the Joe Doyle N.Y. Nat'l....would love to see a pic of that tomorrow.
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Guys, it could be this Doyle, NY Natl. Or the one. Or who knows what.
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Cmon seriously? All Larry Doyles are NY Nat'l. Of course that's what we're dealing with here. I'm more interested in seeing the Matty
<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/88846413@N04/29410764540/in/album-72157673816631826/" title="Doyles from Pittsburgh"><img src="https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8366/29410764540_26bace022c_o.jpg" width="604" height="416" alt="Doyles from Pittsburgh"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
I am sure you are right.
The two Mattys are pictured in his gallery photos. |
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I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I've seen the green Cobb or another T206 posted before on the internet with these stickers on the back.
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