FS: 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson PSA 5 -
 

Thanks.

Uh have you seen the VCP prices on this card in this grade? If you need them to help you price your cards better let me know.

low ball offer sent.

last one sold for 4200 or so....

Edited to add: Last one on ebay sold for $4525 if seach 201673939138 with Watchcount.. on 9/22/16


..i not asking 4x more than the last one sold and i listed a price... Why you not try to list a price on yours before you comment about a price listed..

I guess i should do it your way and list ZERO price and then not answer emails to me.....

Go ahead and keep asking for 'strong offers'



Please give us the VCP for the 1914 Cracker Jack Cobb and Jackson you have listed.. or better yet...why not go crazy and list a price?

For your Robinson, the last sale was a PWCC sale -- cough -- for $4083. The $2750 BIN is ignored as per your comments on my thread. So the last non-PWCC sales were for less than half what you're asking now. As for my Cobb, the last 5 went for 30K.

9/7/16 eBay pwcc_auctions $4,083.00
10/30/15 eBay red-zone BIN $2,750.00
7/8/15 eBay pwcc_auctions $2,143.00
6/14/15 eBay cardsandbrowns $2,225.00
5/4/15 eBay jsokol1626 $2,141.00

And lastly, I'm not ok with you commenting on my BST threads but you do on every one of them. This is my first time commenting on one of your hilariously overpriced BST offerings.

nah..that would be if i didnt list a price and then went crazy on an offer that was within 10% of a recent sale price....

so last one was 4083 plus shipping yesterday in an open auction almost a year after the last sale you cited which wasnt as good as mine

right BINS dont matter to me (and you still havent listed any auctions prices or sales prices on your thread)

I do count PWCC sales and so do most if not all others. if you want to not count a huge section of the auction market thats up to you. Not sure how you would count a BIN over a pwcc sale.

Lets see the VCP with all sale prices on your cobb and jackson....you listed the prices on mine..


Also i listed a price....you never listed a price. Lets see VCP on Jackson and the Cobb and all future listings...

I'll offer you 2K on your card. Cash. I mean assuming it's real.

Uh try $4083, I not read $4200 on VCP.

my offerings are hilariously overpriced? You really going to go that route when you dont list prices and ask for 3x-5x the market price... easy to say someone is overpricing and not give a price on your own

You also said you are not ok with commenting on bst threads....you didnt comment on my t206 green cobbs or 1951 Mays...what hilariously overpriced listings are your referring too? Lets see the prices of your last 5 offerings, if you give a price.


Plus last psa 5 Jackie just sold for $4525 on 9/22/16 on ebay....i wish sellers would lesson to sales data from 5 years ago as well when i want to buy a key rookie card

plus jackie sgc 5 on october 6, 2016 $4494

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-Leaf-79...0AAOSwOyJX6TmG

Plus Jackie SGC 5 on October 12 , 2196 $4231

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-Leaf-Ja...sAAOSwPCVX8Jdy

with shipping its over 4100....my price is delivered...sorry i was off by 80 dollars....forgive me

Whats the prices for the 1914 Cobb and Jackson and what is VCP? Dont be a hypocrite if you are going to comment on my b/s/t and say they are priced too high lets see what you are asking for your cards..

I'm just trying to help you sell your cards! Just like you try to help on my threads. What is the problem? You're getting so upset you might accidentally write a complete sentence.

and ill offer 8k for your 1914 ty cobb, assuming its real....we can trade them and ill give you 6k..

Is that paper loss on that top border on the back of the card?

My Cobb and Jackson are the ultimate waterfront properties. If you want to live on waterfront properties you need to pay up.

Lets see the prices listed of your cards. Ill just list VCP for you now on all your listings. Dont worry i wont do anything different that what you put on my thread.

ON your thread i commented about issues of not having a price but that was up to you. On my thread i listed a price.

On your thread you are against comments on b/s/t...and look what we have here.

What is VCP on them including all sales on VCP... Are you asking 280 dollars more than the last sale price like mine?

How about this? Stop commenting on my threads. What a concept, huh?

And you can comment on every last one of my BST threads with prices; I sell about 4 cards a year, unlike you who sells cards to eat. I'll list the VCP prices on every one of your listings, you know, to help you sell. Deal?

You'll have to pay for a VCP subscription. Gulp!

Uh, I asked for and got exactly what the last sale on my Leaf Robinson was. Not 2x. Not 3x. Not 4x. Not 5x. But 1x.

And are you aware that a Leaf with perfect centering sometimes is considered waterfront property compared to one that has horrible centering?

thats fine. I have a bunch of 1954 Topps to list and you list VCP on all of your listings, maybe you will go crazy and list a price once in awhile..

You can start with the cobb and jackson with VCP to help you sell the cards...

I not comment anything close to what you put on this thread. Plus, I not comment on your thread since however long ago and you comment now.


Whats VCP for the cobb and jackson....since you went to great lengths to list it on my card....its only fair to put it on your listings...

WE have a deal. VCP on all of our listings. You made the offer and I accepted.

Dont reneg....thanks

I not reneg! I not!

PS -- the reason I can afford cards which are worth 10x your slop is that I actually work during the day as a lawyer instead of spending all my time spouting idiocy on Net 54 and selling 1954 commons. I also not an idiot.

Right you are rich and i am poor. I not sure what that has to do about making an agreement and not breaking it.


Just because you are a lawyer are you trying to worm your way out of an agreement?

you cant add new criteria after the deal was made...if you not have any time because you are so busy, you seemed to have a lot of time on this thread...

counselor...you made an offer..and i accepted..

Lets see VCP on your listings now. You were so generous to post them on this thread......i also listed a Hank Sauer 1954 Topps..please list VCP there..

You can't keep inventing new conditions...the deal was VCP for both our listings...i have to eat on my listings..

Yet you care so little about your listings that you appear to be afraid to list VCP or break agreements.


Whats the VCP for the Cracker Jack Cobb and Jackson on your listings?

yes its ripped in half...


I am still not sure how all of your posts here show that you are not an idiot or how you are against comments on b/s/t on your listings. What you posted here is not even close to what i posted. I dont think its appropriate and not even comparable in any way to anything i have posted.

Ill just reference this thread on any new b/s/ts you list ..even though it will be only 1-4 because you are a rich lawyer..

You seem upset.

It seem like you are the one upset my friend. I not post anything more on your thread and the matter was closed. You took the time (even though you are really busy) to make 20 posts or so on my b/s/t listing. Lets see VCP on your listings or a price perhaps. Go crazy unless you are too upset..

Plus you may want to honor the deal you made but i have a feeling you dont honor deals.

Thanks, guys, for the laughs. I'm stuck here at work and you made my lunch hour very entertaining :D

Again you are not referencing VCP on that card. You are posting here comments right when i listed the card. So if i sell the card, lets see what i get. As of now im asking for 300 more than the last sale yesterday in an auction. I not remember you listing a price for any cards or a past auction price sale.

I not realize there was a Leaf Jackson by the way. Lets see a picture of that card.. I may pay 30x for that card to the new owner for their Leaf Joe Jackson

Just wait for the next b/s/t listing of Calvindog! Since it appears i can fully comment now on his listings in order to help him sell his cards..

Maybe he will come across another Leaf Joe Jackson (guess he was upset)

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=226456

i comment on every last one of his b/s/t threads? Man my comments there was so menacing Wow your posts here are just like mine on yours

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=205942 zero comment

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=202608 zero comment

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=213706 zero comment

Since I've been on this board I've spent well over 7 figures on cards and not one time - not once - has anyone ever referred to me as either an idiot or a lowballer. Yet those are the only two descriptions I've ever heard when people refer to you. Why do you think that is?

You are the only person that said i was a lowballer based on your card with NO price listed. (plus i have purchased a Paige and Jackie in the past few weeks on net54)..so you are your own witness as to calling me a lowballer (even though you not answer my offer on that card so first i learned of it on your net54 post. I didnt know you were upset with a 10k+ (i forget the exact amount) cash offer) . Idiot, perhaps. We all have our good days and bad days. People have called you idiot as well.

Plus you dont honor deals such as the one right here on this thread. You also said i posted on all, every last one (which you imply negatively on ALL of your b/s/ts...i count 1..in which YOU engaged in comments invoking my name which prompted my response there.

On every other b/s/t thread i saw zero comments except comments on one other thread which would not be interpreted from anyone to be negative and zero others which was the psa 7 leaf robinson

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=226456

If you think thats posting on all your b/s/ts....your sincerity would be questioned.


Plus paying millions of dollars or making million of dollars does not make someone better than someone else. I look at sincerity and whether people honor deals. I dont care what they do for a living or how rich they are when i deal with people.

I have nothing against you. You have nice cards..even though prices never listed. Just practice what you preach and if you make an offer to someone, they may just accept so perhaps you should refrain from making offers that you cant keep on your end.

You're still an idiot.

yep you have called me that before. I guess this means we will never get to see VCP on your cracker jacks or see this high dollar Leaf Jackson that you raved about selling

I see you changed/edited your past posting made awhile ago from 'Leaf Jackson' to 'Leaf Robinson' with no commenting when i brought it up. I see you sneaked in the correction. People make mistakes when they are upset. Its ok we all make mistakes. Guess i wont have to pay 20x market price for that a magical Leaf Jackson. Not everyone is an idiot for making mistakes. Anyway, just making sure the record is accurate.

i would like this to be my last post on this thread besides updating card status and pricing. So even though you are so busy, i am sure you will get the chance to post some things here on my b/s/t that you will be proud of.

Nice card. Somebody trolled my last B/S/T here too, so I had to sell
it on Blowout cards. times have changed

Quite a pissing contest. Though running out of juice quickly.

Thanks for the offers thus far.

Time to......
 

It's time:

Gotta be honest here...Jeffrey came off as a bit of a bully in this thread. just sayin

Well, I don't know the history.
I have now had about 15 great transactions here. And I've had a few tire kickers who strung me along through a bunch of emails and sort of wasted my time in a big way. Not bad people. Just a little too much on the inquiries, one more point, sure you can't do better, want to think it over, etc. You know the type. Looking for a reason not to buy. Again, in the grand scheme of things not a major league offense. But this wasn't a house purchase.

nah saying a card is ridiculously priced and not listing prices for sale on your own thread is normal to do on a b/s/t. Plus a number of other things such as agreeing to put VCP on all listings and then re-negging and then saying I do the same thing on all his threads which isnt further from the truth. Nothing even close on his jackson thread (all i stated was listing a price may prevent low ball offers and then it went on from there based on his responses) and zero issues on any other threads (all but one of them i not post anything) Thats a far cry from what he put on this thread. Also calling the seller an idiot on the seller's own b/s/t thread no less is great form as well. In addition, there were several other posters on that Jackson thread yet he singles me out for his name calling

For someone into VCP, i would assume he could list a price that would reflect price on cards within a few hundred. Afterall he relies on VCP enough to post it on my thread

He also posted great sale on a mystery Leaf Jackson which apparently does not exist..

I have gotten a few offers within a few hundred on this card. If i choose to sell it for that it wont last long.

How many more times will Leon have to reiterate the rule? ;)

Do you two clowns have a burning need to stage a public c*nt fight splayed over 5 pages? Kindly spare the rest of us the dramatics and do it via PM. :(

+1

If you reset your preferences to 80 posts per page it's only one page. :eek:

Its my b/s/t listing....if someone posted that you are an idiot on your very own b/s/t listing and stated your card was overpriced with an explanation that can be challanged, you would just leave it like that on your b/s/t listing?

Its not like its a random thread..its my b/s/t listing...

even if the guy is a rich lawyer and spends millions of dollars and is too busy to post, i should be able to respond to him.

Yes, and you're still an idiot. For some reason you're the last to find out.

another post you can be proud of especially since you made a point that you are so busy at work. You also not to busy to break agreements or to brag how much you sold a Leaf Joe Jackson for which would be a problem since none of them exist and im the idiot

Jake, it's no accident that a dozen people wrote to me either via PM, email or text about what a complete jackass you are (example: "I cant stand 1952boynton. You put him in place and he is too stupid to realize."). Forget that you write as well as a remedial third grader, that your posts are moronically pedantic -- you have a reputation here for jerking people around on sales, lowballing and having ridiculously high prices. Guess what -- no one has ever said any of those things about me. Yes, I made a typo on one post which will probably be printed up and found on your body when you expire in 40 years. Wonderful. As this board and the BST are things that are important to you, maybe you should recognize that it might be you who is the problem? God knows I'm not the first person to call you an idiot: teachers, friends, your wife if there is a woman unlucky enough, judges, clients, etc.

Yes i got emails about you as well. Plus the people on this thread appear to think you are a bully and trolled the thread. This is my b/s/t thread. You being the only one saying i lowball doesnt exactly mean anything when you are the only one thats saying that. Keep saying that same thing and i think it will probably be printed up and found on your body when you expire in 40 years. You see, it sounds just as cheezy from me as it does from you.

Again this is a b/s/t post...not sure why you continue to disparage me and make up things. You say i price things high compared to you? (if you even give prices) You really going to go with that as your argument?

How much again are you asking for your CJ Cobb ? Oh right, you wont give a price. But you say i ask way to much on my cards

Funny i gets pms about you but i dont care what they say. We all see what you put right here on this thread

Whats the VCP on your listings? How much for that Leaf Cobb or your famous Leaf Jackson. I guess even rich lawyers can make typos when they are upset.

You also say on a man's b/s/t thread listing that his prices are ridiculous. I have already gotten offers within couple of hundred of asking price. Every net54er that posts a later price reduction priced their cards initially in a ridiculous fashion? But you dont even list a price for your cards and have to put on your listings about no lowball offers. Evidently you must be getting a LOT of offers that you deem a lowball that you went out of the way to post that. Like i said, put a price on your card and that could prevent many offers that you deem a lowball

Why you not just put what you want for your Cobb and put VCP as you did here. You cant say one side is overpricing their cards and you fail to list a price for yours if you really want to make that argument.

I can also say your actions on this thread (my b/s/t) are not something to be proud of especially if you are a rich lawyer with little time on your hands.

Boynton is an idiot
 

"Post #49 - Nice job, that sums it up and should shut him up, but you know that's not possible.

Count me as another Boyn hater. He tried to low-ball me and tell me I didn't know how to price cards. I think he is definitely worthy of banishment..."

Ok Jakey, I'm done here. I'll be back if you post on another of my BST threads.

Right what was the card, what was the amount being asked and who is the poster. I can make up things as well. It would be easy for someone to post something on net54 about my lowballing given ALL the many emails and pms you say you are getting and its not like people dont chime in on here...

just bought a card from peter speith and paid asking on a leaf Jackie psa 4 in the past few weeks.

I have sold many cards on here. I dont have to worry about posting something to the effect as 'no lowball offers' that was before you ever had any type of issue with me. Must of been a LOOOT of lowball offers before me. Or at least what YOU deemed as a lowball offer


I not seen one message of support for you on this thread b.t.w....

Dont worry ill give you the same courtesy you give me here.

By the way i hadnt put anything on your b/s/t for some time (in regards to putting pricing on your cards if you dont a lowball offer) and then i guess you waited your time to start things here on this b/s/t thread. I not give you a second thought but apparently you were upset and tried to make a point here by going overboard. Also since you have been posting your comments that would make your family proud, I still havent posted anything on your b/s/t thread. Yet you keep going on my b/s/t thread. Now you seem to be worried about me posting on your threads.

You seem offended that I said on your thread awhile ago that you may want to post a price if you want to avoid lowball offers that you mentioned. For that i am called an idiot and i price cards ridiculously and you are a rich lawyer that pays millions of dollars so there cant be another side to the story. I am surprised you have the time.

Can someone make this stop?!

+1,000,000!



'it takes two to tango'

so i guess you are not one of those secret supporters of Calvin

its my b/s/t thread...its not like i am posting my responses on someone elses....

if someone said on your own b/s/t thread that you are an idiot and claims your prices are ridiculous (even though he doesnt post prices on most of his) you would respond as well on your own b/s/t thread.

It may take someone buying it. Even then, who knows.:eek:

Oh, I'm sure I'd be tempted, but I believe I'd take the high road and use PMs to complete my competition...and not air any dirty laundry in public.

Jason and Jeff - continuing just make you look bad.

IMO - You can claim it as your thread, but you are using a shared site. I do not know Jeff (aka Calvin) either, but we can all just 'drop back seven and punt' occasionally.

You could start by not feeling like you just have to respond to this.

Eh, so you would be tempted in that situation However you just responded to me from what i wrote and i didnt call you an idiot on your b/s/t thread and try to say your card is overpriced and list sales from many years ago. The person that did this doesnt even post prices on most of his cards. Yet you still felt the need to respond on this thread and its not even your b/s/t thread where you are trying to sale a $1000+ card. So perhaps you saw and understand why i responded.

I thought you stated that both should stop. I see a lot of posts by Jeff aka Calvin on this thread yet you dont seem to point the finger on any of his posts here. I assume that he looks terrible to you Afterall hes the one posting on my b/s/t thread and going against what others are against in regards to etiquette on someones b/s/t thread. Its not even close whatever he is upset with.


People will agree that Jeffs conduct was inappropriate on a b/s/t thread (Chime in any Net54 member if i am wrong) I do think the way you wrote its a bit unfair to me if you really read everything on the thread (not like anyone really wants to do that ) What dirty laundry did i post. I have been accused of being an idiot, for ridiculous prices (from someone that we all know asks a ton and wont list prices) If he can say what he wants on my b/s/t thread then whats to stop others from impacting peoples b/s/t thread in the same negative way What is the bar on that, you can now start with calling someone an idiot and talk about pricing and now what can you do further? It appears you excuse his behavior. (Please correct me if i am wrong) I can respond on my own b/s/t thread. I think we can all agree that nothing Jeff put on my thread is appropriate. Its not like he doesnt care about people posing on his threads so he doesnt practice what he preaches.

Basically, i do think if there is a back and forth and accusations are made and someone is critical on a b/s/t card, you should give the benefit of the doubt to the person that started the listing and not the person that is the one initially stirring the pot.

I know you may be tempted to respond as well but you already did respond.

And again, if what Jeff aka Calvindog put on this thread was appropriate, lets hear ANY net54 say what he did on this thread for any b/s/t is appropriate and would be appropriate on your future b/s/t thread. Lets hear it.

Couldn't agree more. The OP is by far the biggest offender on Net54 now. He is constantly posting in other peoples threads and should be given a time out or just banned. This was posted by another member in a BST thread because of all this crap."Lack of commentary, pricing opinions, etc. would be much appreciated." Guess what the moron OP still posted in that thread and his post like usual had nothing to do with buying the card.

"just bought a card from peter speith and paid asking on a leaf Jackie psa 4 in the past few weeks."

So you did snake that Robinson card from me when I had asked about first. Nice to know how you operate.

what a crock....why dont you tell everyone that i agreed to the price first. What did the seller tell you? He told me i agreed to his price first. Am i wrong?

If not that you are just stirring pot Nice to know how you operate. Lose out on card so say negative things to the buyer that agreed first.

Not sure what i am to blame. I noticed you didnt say you agreed to pay the price first.

Why dont you give the details. I know you wont because your argument is silly as the seller already told you that i agreed to pay before.

Man sour grapes. You just jump in with that nonsense.

So i can agree to a price before you do, and im the bad guy.

eh, i am the one that has posted in the past on my listings if you check. Looks like I should of put that on this one. Maybe you are addressing Calvindog on this, not me. Calvindog has a post in that thread you are mentioning that has nothing to do with buying the card.

If you are addressing me, what was this post that was so egregious that you are mentioning in your thread. I am assuming its peter speiths listing. Saying 'nice card' isnt the same thing as saying you are an idiot and your prices are outragous among others. I know the seller in the b/s/t listing , Peter, isnt complaining at all. Not sure what your complaint is

Plus i have bought cards from him including one of his recent listings. I would think someone actually buying his cards and saying 'nice card' is better what you put here. Why dont you ask peter if he objected to it? He will say no. Here is the thread you have the BIG ISSUE with. I notice that Calvin said something there that had nothing to do with buying the card. I am not sure what your gripe is with either comment from Calvin or myself actually.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=228321

Your post here on this thread has nothing to do with buying the card btw

Sour grapes, that's hilarious. There are plenty of '48, oops sorry, '49 leaf jackie's out there. What pissed me off is you didn't give a rats ass about me since I had inquired about it first. I guess to you all is fair in love, war and baseball cards. See if it were me, I would have told the OP that I would want the card if the first person passed. But not you....you jump to the head of the line. Enjoy the card, you obviously wanted it more than me since you were willing to sell your integrity (at least in my eyes) for it. Congrats!

And in regards to the seller. He told me he had an offer to buy immediately after he posted it. Not that you had agreed to the price first. Your "I'll take it" didn't come until 10 minutes after my PM. He never mention you at all. I suspected it was you but figured it was someone else. Guess I was right after all. Besides if you had already agreed to the price BEFORE my PM, then there was no reason for you to post "I'll take it" after my message.

Again, I'm not upset about missing out on the card. Just your lack of common courtesy. Maybe I'm the fool for thinking integrity is worth more than a baseball card.

Finally, I'm done here. I'm not getting into a pissing match with you. There will plenty of other members you'll get to do that with. What's done is done. I just know that you'll do anything to get a card you want. That's cool. I just know how you operate.

'He told me he had an offer to buy immediately after he posted it' So why dont you practice what you preached and wait to see if i had passed. You admit right there that i contacted him first. Funny he didnt mention you until after i agreed to pay asking price.


I had no idea of your contacts with him. . I emailed him from my email off of net54 If the card is no big deal, why give it a second thought?

I posted ill take it to show that i paid listing price and to avoid anyone else making an offer since it wast listed as sold yet and that was the first time i saw your 'pm sent'. . I had already agreed with him via email earlier as he told you. Maybe you should post ill take it' if you are paying asking price.

What did you offer by the way. I assumed you offered less than asking price and then after you saw my ill take it, you told me to get in line because maybe then you offered Asking price.

I also like to post ill take it when i didnt see it listed that the card had sold. I already bought the card. I didnt know PM sent means you have wait in line by the way, even though i didnt see it when i was communicating via email and off the net54 site.

again so the card is no big deal yet you bring this up? I really dont think anyone on net54 thinks what i did was wrong at all.

You cant say get in line and offer asking price after i say 'ill take it' People usually post ill take it takes precedence over ongoing negotiations. Sorry for saying ill take it while you were trying to negotiate to get the card for less. Easy to say know you were willing to go to asking price after the card is sold.

Bottom line- I contacted him first that you admit, You are in negotiations and not offering asking price, and i pay asking price and this card doesnt matter. Am i really a bad guy for this?


I also dont see why you would put this on my b/s/t thread. The fact i paid asking on that psa 4 jackie which is above VCP that calvindog loves to cite (except for his own cards) does show the respect i have for the card and the reason i wanted to sell my 5 since i got a 4 that would be cheaper to hold

I don't know why I'm chasing the rabbit down the hole because it doesn't matter now anyway, but I was going to pay his asking price.

And, to me, you didn't need to post "I'll take it " after me because you had already agreed to buy it before me. Maybe you'd have been better off just staying silent and not creating any confusion. Don't you trust the seller to keep his word if he agrees to sell it to you? You didn't need to "announce" to the forum you bought it. Just my opinion.

And I bring it up because from my perspective it just didn't sit right with me. It had NOTHING to with the actual card itself. There will plenty of leaf robinson's to buy in the future. I know of a PSA 5 I can buy right now at asking price, but I'm not interested. ;)

Again, what's done is done and I'm finally done.

Jakey, at some point -- perhaps -- you're going to realize what I've been telling you: that you're not only the biggest idiot on Net 54 but the biggest scumbag. No matter how many people are complaining about you it's never your fault.

Holy cow....you sure added a whole lot after I was replying.

IF a seller states the first "I'll take it" supercedes all other inquiries or negotiations then by all means "go for it". But if a seller does not state that, then I would offer the common decency to the person who replied before me to get first dibs. That's just me.

Next time I will just say I'll take it because I know you're lurking out there.

Maybe I should have just started my own thread on the main board. I'll do that next time. Thanks for the advice.

Understood but i do believe your criticism is unfair. You are telling me to wait if i knew someone was having ongoing negotiations, which i didnt by the way. However, you learn that i already contacted him and you didnt appear to want to wait. Your basically accusing me of something that you actually tried to do. I didnt even know about your negotiations until after i bought the card.

Also if you were going to pay asking price, why didnt you just put ill take it. Why the pm sent. You seem to question what i wrote etc, but you should look at what you wrote. Its confusing to me that you were agreeing to pay asking price but took the time to say 'pm sent'

Its clear from my' ill take it' that I was willing to pay asking price (guess it wasnt a lowball offer), its not clear if you ever offered him that.

Like you said whats done is done, but i dont think anyone would agree i did anything remotely wrong. Due to the nature of this thread, i guess i am an easy target but i dont think anyone will agree with you that i did anything wrong in that transaction. I contacted him first, i offered listing price first and and for that you are critical of me.

ok so now i am a scumbag. I am at fault for lots of things. No one is perfect. You are getting a ton of complaints. Maybe you arent perfect There are people that think what you posted on this thread is not appropriate. I thought you said you werent going to post anymore on this thread unless i posted on your threads. Guess you couldnt hold back and it was so important for you to add that. I can call you names too but again its just baseball cards. Man you waited a whole day to post that. I guess you have been very upset.

Good post there!

Ok, i am the one that contacted him first which you have admitted. Where was the common decency? I contacted him first and paid asking price first. Does anyone on Net54 contend i did anything wrong in this transaction.

I didn't say you contacted him first. How can I know that? Only the seller knows that. It just seems wierd that you'd "announce" your "I'll take it" 10 minutes after my PM. Also, How am I supposed to know, "l'll take it" after my PM means, "I've already contacted the seller before you and agreed to pay his asking price before you? I must have missed that in the Jake to Net54 translation guide.

My common decency is if I see someone post PM sent in a BST listing, I'll tell the seller I'm interested if the first person passes. I definitely won't go back to the thread and state, I'll take it", AFTER I have already bought it. I will let the seller inform other interested parties that the card has sold. Just me that's all.

Take all the polls you want. Everybody here can say I'm in the wrong. That's OK with me. It won't change MY mind that it didn't sit well with me.

Look, if you don't want people, like me, to continue to meddle in your BST thread. Then don't keep asking me questions. I'm good with letting this ride off into the sunset.

I did contact him immediately. He posted an email address, so i didnt need to say 'pm sent' or say anything on the thread. You admitted that he was contacted already on the card. So whoever that was, why didnt you have the common decency to wait which you state you would have done


It was me obviously that contacted him first. You want me to believe you were going to offer asking price but put 'pm sent'

If i can get the seller to tell you that it was me that i contacted him first (which you you seem to question) would you then agree that i did ZERO wrong

I can email him to post that if you wish but if its still not enough for you that I contacted him first then why question whether it was me if it doesnt matter.

I did check the listing after i bought the card. It was a high dollar card and i just was checking the picture again and checking the cert before issuing payment. (i told him before i would be paying within 2 hours) I noticed the listing had not been closed. So i posted ill take it. Since i already bought it i didnt think it was a big deal

If you look at it from my perspective, i think you thought you saw an easy target to criticize but i dont mess with people trying to sell their cards or on transactions. I have fun talking about almost NL no hitters are overrated ( ie Rich Hill) but all of my transactions have runs smoothly and honestly. You never seen anyone chime in on that otherwise. A lot of talk is cheap, when it comes to actually paying and delivering what i promise I dont think anyone will disagree that i am top tier.

I dont think you will argue that im pretty active on this website and that i am into jackie robinson cards. It really isnt a shocker that i jumped on the listing before you

Dude, you just don't get it.

I saw the card. I sent the seller a PM. 10 minutes later you state. "I'll take it!"

I didn't hear ANYTHING from the seller until he said someone, not you, contacted him IMMEDIATELY after he posted it. And bought it. My PM was 24 minutes after he posted the listing. So you came into the thread 30 minutes after the thread was posted and 10 minutes after my PM to announce "I'll take it" which to you really means, "I already bought the card 30 minutes ago at asking price". I'm really supposed to understand that.

To me, it meant, man I really want that card. Somebody already sent a PM so I'll yell, "I'll take it" because that means screw anybody who's interested, I yelled, I'll take it" first.

Just wanted to add - fair enough Jake. Maybe you did contact the seller first. I'm just saying your "I'll take it" response 10 later seemed suspicious. Maybe it was just a big misunderstanding. Can we just ride off into the sunset now?



Look Jake. Maybe I'm wrong here. It just didn't feel right to me. Maybe I should have just let it ride and not get involved. Like I said, it has nothing to do with the card. We can agree to disagree and let this fade away.

right you bring this up here where you think im an easy target. You said the guy said it wasnt me? Who was it then? Or did he just not mention anyone by name. I am 100% sure it was me.

You seem to indicate that you were wrong as to the way you were critical of me if i indeed i was the first person to contact him.

Also you are confused as to my 'ill take it' but you cant see why i can be confused that you agreed to pay asking when i later saw the 'pm sent' (i already bought the card when saw that)

I like your posts and have nothing against you. You may of just wanted to pm me your concern than to jump on my b/s/t thread. Also i can email the seller if you wish to confirm I contacted him first.

In addition, if you feel that some of your posts on my b/s/t thread arent that appropriate, you have been civil in your arguments. I am ok with it but rather you did it through pm. But afterall its not like you are calvindog who uses terms like scumbag.

We just can't seem to let this go can we? The seller made NO mention of who was the buyer.

I did not know you were the first person to contact him. I only saw your "I'll take it" comment 10 minutes AFTER my PM.

Huh? Not sure exactly what you mean? Why would you post "I'll take it" approx 30 minutes AFTER you bought the card. And after you saw my PM sent? If you were letting me know, hey I already bought the card, then that's not a very effective form of communication. Personally, I would have let the seller tell me the card was already sold. Can't you see where I thought you were trying to cut in line with your "I'll take it" post? How am I supposed to figure that means "I bought the card 30 minutes ago? Remember, I had NO reason to suspect you had already contacted the seller and agreed to buy the card. All I see is "I'll take it" 10 minutes after my PM

Fair enough about sending you a PM first. No need to contact the seller. It won't change anything

The seller did tell me that he told you he already sold the card when i mentioned the PM sent (i was curious as to what offer was made, if any even though i already bought the card), I had received an email with payment instructions and i called him about when payment would be made etc and thats when he told me that.

I can see your initial thought process. I do think though after what i wrote you should now see i did nothing wrong. I did contact him first and i did pay him asking price first. Its one thing to say i wasnt mentioned as the first guy, and its another to say he didnt tell you who the first guy was that contacted him which you just said. Again i am 100% sure it was me.

Anyway this my last post on this this issue. You can see Calvindog already jumped on our exchange which is silly as we have no beef. Grown ups solve issues. Kids do what kids do i guess. I think you agree i didnt do anything wrong now. I also can see why you may of thought something. Information and communication are important.

THIS IS THE SINGLE WORST THREAD I HAVE SEEN ON THIS SITE. :mad::mad::mad:

I read through this thread (well, just skimmed really) but Sean is 100% right. Honestly guys, I felt like I was listening to my 14 and 10 year old daughters fighting.....no kidding. It is really sad grown men are acting this way. You guys have to be better than this.

Just stop it. It's clear you guys don't like each other. Trust me WE ALL GET IT. You don't need to convince us anymore....LOL.

Mark