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A classic set from a classic decade ....
I think I am going to make a run at this set. I have always liked the images, the set is chock full of HOF and star power, and at 160 cards, the set is small enough for me to make an honest attempt. Currently I own two cards in mid grade, PSA 5 and 6, and that is going to be my benchmark .... as long as the image is nice. Attachment 241386Attachment 241387 Each of the above seems to have one of the nuances of the set - centering on the Roberts and some print marks on Spahnnies red brim. Seems that the color red in the set always has some issues, but I am only guessing. Does anyone out there collect this set? I would love to see some examples, so please share! Thanks in advance |
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Magnificent set with my favorite Musial. Very well thought of today, it was a market disaster for Bowman in 1953 . First use of color photography versus colored b&w photos, but an expensive set for Bowman to produce, and the 53 Topps set still out sold it. Bowman caved in mid summer and issued it's remaining cards in b&w.
It was the first Bowman set I did. I like it a lot. Good luck with your project, Neal |
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They are beautiful cards. You really couldn't go wrong to attempt that set in mid-grade.
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Each card in that set is a work of art.
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I like the Musial as well. |
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What a wonderful set! Back in the Fall, I sold a really nice Musial. Why??!!!
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I am building the set in the VG range, mostly raw. I have 87/160 including the Mantle.
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I like the set a lot. I'd still like to upgrade my Ford, but it's not worth it.
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This is my Musial.
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tremendous set, Bob! first time I have seen the PSA digital album - wow! |
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It is a beautiful set to build....I am at 155/160 currently....here is my Mantle...only the Mantle and two other cards are graded, but the rest of the set is quite consistent with my Mantle. Finding centered cards has indeed been tough, as I have upgraded numerous cards within the set with more centered copies.
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Nice set!
Good luck Neal! |
1953 BOWMAN BB card article......
Hey guys
Take the time to read my 1986 Baseball Cards Magazine article on this set....I think you'll find it quite interesting. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erReese50x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...agArtp2x75.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...anBBmagArt.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BBmagArtp3.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BBmagArtp4.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BBmagArtp5.jpg TED Z . |
Hats off to you guys who have completed this set or are close to doing so. I love it but I am not sure that I could afford to build it in the condition I would be happy with, and I worry that this particular set might not look as good in lower grade.
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I like Topps and all, but if I won lotto this is the first set I'm buying :D EDIT: Thanks for posting that article Ted Z. Sometimes I'm slow to post and didn't see it. |
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the 1953 Bowmans are great looking cards. One of my earliest vintage card purchases was this Reese in 1984. Still raw but may get it graded soon. |
When I get back to collecting, the '53 Bowman set is one of three I'm going to focus on; that, the '75 Topps, which I have a nice start on, and the T206 is the other. I'll bounce back and forth between them, but my main focus will be the Bowman.
The '53 Bowman set is, in my opinion, the only one that challenges the Monster for sheer beauty. They're neck and neck, and, honestly, I don't think I could choose one over the other. I love them equally. But the '53 Bowman set perfectly represents what was a very special time in baseball, and America. It's a time capsule of a time after the WW II, before Vietnam and the turbulent 60s. Sixteen teams, two pennant winners, one World Champion. No DH. No wild card teams. No interleague play. The Dodgers were still in Brooklyn. The Braves were in Milwaukee. The photography is just special. Those old players, those unis, those stadiums. Perfection. Good luck with the set, Neal. Great choice! I look forward to seeing yours (and mine) grow. We've got the same idea in mind. 5/6 grade with high eye appeal. Hopefully we won't be competing for too many cards. You've got a head start on me ;) |
I think building the '53 set is more of a marathon than a sprint. So long as a builder is patient, willing to take the time to look for nice mid grade examples, it's very doable.
There are a few cards that are going to be very costly. The Mick, especially, in a 5/6 is with eye appeal to match the other cards is going to set me back a few thou, easily. The Pee Wee, especially, demands near perfect centering, and that should be pretty costly. But a lot of these guys (including some of the Hall of Famers) are still very affordable. Quote:
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Thanks for sharing some images and comments, as well as the words of encouragement. Ted, thanks for sharing that article! I had known about some high number toughies, and that seems to explain a lot.
This is certainly going to be a patient effort as I am in no rush. I was able to win 7 low number commons for $9.99 each, so that will take me to nine in a few days - 151 to go, including the Mick! |
I have been working on this set, but in low grade. Been buying commons for $1-3, and stars I have been buying certified in the 1-4 range. I am about 100 cards in...missing the Mick, Spahn, Feller, the Duke, some easy commons and a bunch of high numbers.
I am doing the set as many above have stated, the photography is sheer artwork. In low grade, the set is still very enjoyable and not extremely expensive as there are no big rookies. |
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The Bowman family had great timing and had sold their interests earlier at the peak of their baseball card success , before Toops began to ascend with the results of the 52 set. The new owners did not have the Bowman family marketing instincts and experience. The increased expense of color photos in their 53 set cut back their marketing budget. After 53 Bowman limped through 1954 and made a last ditch effort with their color TV concept in 1955. It fell flat, maybe because so few families were even familiar with color TVs in 1955.
Also, although the set is admired today for the uncluttered front, kids may have preferred a name and team designation on the front Whatever you think of Dean's Cards pricing, he does have a good book on the bubble gum wars between Topps and Bowman from 1948 to 1955. Topps first major foray into baseball cards was 1951, but they did have a baseball subset in their 1948 Magic Photo set. I get a smile out of thinking about Steve pedaling all over town looking for 53 Bowmans :) |
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Great set Neal. That Mantle pose is very cool.
Al, I enjoyed reading your info about this set and the Bowman/Topps of the 50s. very cool. see, I learned something today |
Thanks Rob, Neal, and savedfrommyspokes for the compliments regarding my 1953 Bowman article.
I've completed two of these sets; and, here are some of my nicer looking stars. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erReese50x.jpg . http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...ntlesnider.jpg . [img] http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...auerMantle.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...wmanMantle.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nMusial50x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...manRizzuto.jpg The "colorful" Casey Stengel should have printed in the color set. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nStengel25.jpg "Kodakchrome...... they give us the nice bright colors they give us the greens of summers makes you think the world's a sunny day BOWMAN got a Nikron camera they love to take a photograph so please don't take my Kodakchrome BOWMAN's away" Paul Simon, 1973 :) TED Z . |
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Ted--I wonder if anyone has ever created a color version of that card.
Always great to have you drop in on post war |
Phillies Win ( Finally )
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..even in stained rat condition , as a group, my Philadelphia Phillies look the best of any team in the '53 Bowman Color...,,differing opinions welcomed !! Go ahead , Matt , post yer damned Dodgers ! .. .. |
Neal; Solid choice! Really great to have you in the set collecting game!
The photography for this set is so amazing that any condition card looks fantastic. That Phillies montage is a perfect example of that. The poses, the unique camera angles and the stellar era relative color just ooze vintage at it's best. Can't wait to see your next additions. RayB |
I have to stop looking at this thread! I am locked in on building a '65 Topps set and have thought about a '61 or '62 Topps set next or even a '54 Topps, but this darn thread could suck me back in. A couple of years back, I sold off the 20 or so I had (including a really nice Musial that I wish I had back). Back in the spring, I bought an ex condition Spahn which I still have. These are so beautiful...
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This thread has outperformed my expectations lol! Thanks for the contributions, fellas.
The Phillies grouping is fantastic, and as much as I love the Ashburn, the Mel Clark is a knockout baseball card. Ted - is Dan Paley still around? The one and only time I set up at show (Ft Washington March 2000) you were on my left, Dan Paley on my right, Roger Burns across the aisle and Joe Chechovich right next to him. It was a great learning experience. |
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Dan Paley is still the character you may recall from 16 years ago at the Ft Washington Philly Show. He's doesn't set-up at shows, however, anymore. Great hearing from you again. TED Z . |
Neal,
This is an amazing set to work on and one I am currently about 60% complete on the HoFers part of it. I dont think I have the patience to do a complete set but if I did I think I could do it with this one. That is a nice Spahn and Roberts. I need both of those two. Better go ahead and get a Mantle now lol The prices on that card has been exploding recently. 2 months ago you could get a psa 4 for aroud $500. Now they are easily $600-$650. 5s were $650-$700 and are now approaching $1000 especially if the centering is nice. To me it is an incredibly beautiful set. To me it is most amazingly beautiful set ever. |
Good to hear Dan is still a character, Ted!
Arex - thanks. The Mantle is certainly on my list, but that is one card that I will be patient on. I have seen a few in recent months, but was not wowed by any other than those out of my ballpark. Ashburn, Berra, and Snider need to have the wow factor also. |
Ted
I have always really liked that article and had recommended it to other fans of the 1953 Bowman Color Set. Never realized you wrote it until you posted it. Very informative and well written, even though written years ago its information has held up over the years.
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Working on the set for 3 years now...
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I absolutely love this set. Some of the best looking cards of all time.
When I started collecting this set (PSA 5-6 range), I thought "piece of cake... only 160 cards (in the color set)." It has taken a lot longer than I anticipated. I am about 85% through the set with most of the HOF's. The tough part has been finding some of the high number cards in good condition... my quest continues! Good luck with your journey! |
Nice cards, and thanks for sharing.
I think "piece of cake" as well! I know that will not be the case. I am prepared to be patient. In my limited searches, there are going to be some very tough cards to find with the appeal within the grade that I am looking for. I did add about 16 PSA 5-6 players over the past few days, but it appears that the Staley and Hamner types are pretty common. But also very colorful! Really looking forward to seeing how this pans out. |
Oh, wow, Ted. I didn't know you wrote that. I used to go to the local baseball card shop in Waukesha, and buy Baseball Cards Magazine each time I'd buy some packs, or a box of Topps wax packs. That was one of my favorite articles to ever appear in the magazine.
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If I can continue to find PSA 5's and 6's like these, I'll be a happy set builder.
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Neal - Those are ridiculously nice.
Great pick-ups. Only the set builder gets Granny Hamner! RayB |
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Hey, 3 time All Star :)
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Got this pretty cheap at the Westchester show yesterday...paid $10 for RCR...authentic, not trimmed, and actually doesn't look that bad in hand...
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That card was loved!
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There have been some beautiful cards in this thread. Thanks to everyone who has shared. In surfing ebay, there seems to be very few well centered examples of the big HOFers. I have thought about stepping away from the '65 Topps set I am working on and spending time on this set. It would definitely be a test of patience! I really love the look of the photography, the uniforms, stadium backgrounds, etc. My collecting has gotten so selective on centering I just don't know if I could survive trying to do this.
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I love it. RayB |
Here are a couple from my humble (and small, thus far) collection:
http://i.imgur.com/oytghLJ.png http://i.imgur.com/An21Q1x.png http://i.imgur.com/S1rdzkN.png I'd like to have a set in the EX to EX-MT range. The Irvin and Kiner will be replaced with examples demonstrating better centering. I wasn't as picky about centering when I bought these. It will take me a long time, but it's good to have goals. |
I love the way the photographer took most of the photos for this set from ground level up.
Makes the players seem larger than life, which to us kids who collected the cards, they were. RayB |
I've thought about the set in passing but don't care to collect commons, so I never went for it. I've had these since I was a kid:
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...bsize/Doby.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...ize/Raschi.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...ize/Musial.jpg Got the Musial signed about 25 years ago. Last year I didn't like the way things were going with prices so I picked up this one: http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...0SGC%2040.jpeg I think clean vg or signed is where I will land on this set http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20Furillo.png http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit.../Rosen%202.jpg I am in the minority for the set in terms of fronts. I prefer the 1957 design for the ID data. If only the 1957 could have had the 1953 caliber pictures to go with it... http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...0Aaron%201.JPG |
Adam - Nice stuff. The stark wordless nature of the 53B make them appear more like a photograph than a baseball card. Tru dat.
However; there is something uniquely ethereal about these images. No other set I can compare it too relative to coloration, poses, camera angles and concise era-relative content. Simple perfection. Great thread. RayB |
Nice cards, Adam. Certainly an issue that works nicely with signatures!
as far as the 57s, I am in that minority as well. Love the design and the "darkness" that others seem to notice. Kind of sets it apart from the Topps and Bowman issues that preceded and proceeded the set |
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This card is the only member of the set I currently own, but I am thinking about beginning again. I honestly wouldn't mind finding a centered mid-grade Mantle right off the bat.
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Is it me, or is the 9 in the 59 on back colored in?
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Not you ..... looks that way to me too. |
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The Mantle, in my limited searches for the card, does not seem to have a big centering issue like so many of the others - both commons and HOFers alike. |
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what does RCR mean?
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I am not a graded card guy Larry. Raw Card Review ? Paying someone to tell you what they think you should think about your cards ?
RoyaL Canadian Regiment is also a possibility :-) |
Thanks Al I think you are right Raw Card Review, I see that in the posted image now. I thought the original poster paid $10 for the card, and I'm thinking that's a heck of a deal! But when I read the post now, he "got the card pretty cheap" and then paid Beckett $10 to insure it was authentic. I'm a little slow this AM.
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This came in a few days ago .... not a big name, but this is kinda what I am looking for in a PSA 5 for this set.
Always wanted to use this guy as a leadoff hitter in SIM ... anyone here play Diamond Mine? If so, maybe a 54 Postwar custom league is in order Attachment 243250 |
Does anyone know if there are size variations within this issue? I have seen some cards that appear a tad bit short.
Other than being altered, is there any info regarding small cuts? Thanks |
'53 Bowman color Stengel
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Not a lot to colorize, and I'm still learning how to do it in Photoshop, so be gentle in your criticism :) Tom |
Nice work!
Would have looked great as a Bowman color card |
Neal - That's a great looking Hemus! These cards are amazing.
Nice progress on the set. RayB |
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One of the things I find unique and appealing about the set is the choice, or lack thereof, of cropping certain images. |
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If they had taken some time on the mantle card, it woild have been greatly appreciated! It seems lkme even well centered copies...are oc
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Wow! That Rush image is unbelievable! Great stuff Neal.
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one of my favorite cards from the set ... just arrived today
Attachment 245221 I am now at just under 25%, which is not a tough feat considering the grade level, but this is the first set that I have gotten to this completion percentage in a long while. I have pulled a Costanza, and have worked this set completely different than I have with other sets. |
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Steve,
Love this set and your firsthand experience but you said 53 topps was "pedestrian hand drawn artwork" ouch I feel like you just slapped my wife hahaha Quote:
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Great Ennis!
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