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Bigb13 05-22-2016 09:48 AM

1915 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson
 
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I am looking to sell my 1915 CJ JJ it is Authentic but has a mark on the lower back that's why it's authentic. Besides that it looks like a 7 or 8. Not sure how to price it so listening to offers. RobAttachment 232044

Bigb13 05-22-2016 09:49 AM

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Here's the backAttachment 232045

calvindog 05-22-2016 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541771)
I am looking to sell my 1915 CJ JJ it is Authentic but has a mark on the lower back that's why it's authentic. Besides that it looks like a 7 or 8. Not sure how to price it so listening to offers. RobAttachment 232044

Has SGC confirmed that is the reason for the A grade?

Bigb13 05-22-2016 01:39 PM

That's what they told me. I live in NY and they are in NJ so I drove to them with a few cards and went in and had them done while I waited. They said because of the mark They had to grade it authentic.

bigfish 05-22-2016 01:58 PM

?
 
How much is the card?

Bigb13 05-22-2016 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigfish (Post 1541841)
How much is the card?

Like it says up top I don't know how to price it so I am listening to offers.

calvindog 05-22-2016 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541837)
That's what they told me. I live in NY and they are in NJ so I drove to them with a few cards and went in and had them done while I waited. They said because of the mark They had to grade it authentic.

Just a helpful suggestion but maybe you'd want to send it into PSA and get an 8 with a qualifier instead of the A grade you have now.

bigfish 05-22-2016 02:12 PM

Oh good
 
On offer...

1100 paid by cash, check, money order, or pay pal. Also will throw in a hard copy of 50 ways to ruin a card's value.

This offer is my best. I wish you well if you don't accept this competitive offer.

This offer expires in 48 hours.

calvindog 05-22-2016 02:26 PM

I will offer $1125 with the same time restrictions and the guarantee it will get a numerical grade if submitted to PSA.

bigfish 05-22-2016 02:29 PM

Value
 
Jeff, the real value is in the hard copy book... How to ruin a card's value. I am hoping the seller doesn't underestimate the value I have offered.

I put my best foot forward.

gnaz01 05-22-2016 02:36 PM

Is anyone else seeing the "mark" on the lower back??:confused:

Bigb13 05-22-2016 02:45 PM

People have to start breaking balls already. Maybe I will not sell it on this board to many assholes here.

Bigb13 05-22-2016 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnaz01 (Post 1541855)
Is anyone else seeing the "mark" on the lower back??:confused:

Maybe you need glasses

gnaz01 05-22-2016 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541860)
Maybe you need glasses

Hey Robert, I'm NOT breaking balls, AND I'm being serious, can YOU point out where the mark is on the lower back. Maybe you can provide a larger scan?? Either way, no need to hurl insults when I am asking a question about something I CAN NOT SEE :mad:

Bigb13 05-22-2016 03:11 PM

Other people not you. I don't think I will sell it on this board. Email me if you want to.

Joshwesley 05-22-2016 03:38 PM

I've got 2k with your name on if����!!!

For real though.... I don't know the value but really like the card. How much do you want for it ?

Thanks!

Bigb13 05-22-2016 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshwesley (Post 1541887)
I've got 2k with your name on if👍😎!!!

Because of you it's not for sale on the board no more so all the serious people can thank you for that.

Donscards 05-22-2016 03:43 PM

This is very interesting on this card---I sent the seller 2 emails trying to figure what he wants for a price---I also stated the VCP for a SGC Authentic and also one that sold on ebay---I also stated, he must be looking in the 5-6K range---He was very insolence to me and said I insulted him with a 5000 offer which I didn't make---I just was trying to see where he was in price for the card---Also the scans are hard to make out--the mark on the back is there but hard to distinguish as far as why SGC only gave him a authentic grade. Needless to say, a nice Joe Jackson card, but who knows what the seller wants for a price!

Joshwesley 05-22-2016 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigb13 (Post 1541889)
because of you it's not for sale on the board no more so all the serious people can thank you for that.


My sincerest apologies to the board!
let the buyer beware!!!

Bigb13 05-22-2016 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donscards (Post 1541890)
This is very interesting on this card---I sent the seller 2 emails trying to figure what he wants for a price---I also stated the VCP for a SGC Authentic and also one that sold on ebay---I also stated, he must be looking in the 5-6K range---He was very insolence to me and said I insulted him with a 5000 offer which I didn't make---I just was trying to see where he was in price for the card---Also the scans are hard to make out--the mark on the back is there but hard to distinguish as far as why SGC only gave him a authentic grade. Needless to say, a nice Joe Jackson card, but who knows what the seller wants for a price!

Don you are quoting vcp with a price of 3500 which doesn't even cover the one on eBay two weeks ago which was ripped in half and glued back that went for 4750 do no not even 5-6 would cover it.

iowadoc77 05-22-2016 04:03 PM

PM
 
PM sent in this card and NO REPLY.

bigfish 05-22-2016 04:06 PM

Seller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541896)
Don you are quoting vcp with a price of 3500 which doesn't even cover the one on eBay two weeks ago which was ripped in half and glued back that went for 4750 do no not even 5-6 would cover it.


Then put a price on it...

x2drich2000 05-22-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541837)
That's what they told me. I live in NY and they are in NJ so I drove to them with a few cards and went in and had them done while I waited. They said because of the mark They had to grade it authentic.

The scan is too small for me to tell, but is there a mark or did someone try to repair the card?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1392426)
Somebody tired to repair a slight crease on the back of the card besides that it is a beautiful Jackson. Rob

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=165527

bigfish 05-22-2016 04:18 PM

Also
 
Sgc doesn't give a card an "a" for a mark. I presume something else must be wrong with it......

Best of luck with the sale. I am sure someone will buy it...

calvindog 05-22-2016 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x2drich2000 (Post 1541907)
The scan is too small for me to tell, but is there a mark or did someone try to repair the card?


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=165527

Apparently it was repaired until Bob figured he could make more money on a sale telling people there was an invisible mark on it. Now who's the asshole?

Bigb13 05-22-2016 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by iowadoc77 (Post 1541900)
PM sent in this card and NO REPLY.

I did not respond to you because you were one of the ones breaking my balls about Cobb. I would not sell you shit. Quote that!

Bigb13 05-22-2016 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshwesley (Post 1541895)
My sincerest apologies to the board!
let the buyer beware!!!

Why should they beware I never did anything wrong to anyone.

calvindog 05-22-2016 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541920)
I did not respond to you because you were one of the ones breaking my balls about Cobb. I would not sell you shit. Quote that!

I heard numerous dealers claim your shit is worth 25-35K. Is this true?

bigfish 05-22-2016 04:34 PM

Jeff,
 
Thank you for pointing this out. I smelt shit right after I read the initial
" for sale" post. It wasn't the litter box.

Bigb13 05-22-2016 04:35 PM

Yes Goodman and a few others when I went to the Long Island National last April.

Bigb13 05-22-2016 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigfish (Post 1541927)
Thank you for pointing this out. I smelt shit right after I read the initial
" for sale" post. It wasn't the litter box.

Your a piece of shit

bigfish 05-22-2016 04:43 PM

Thanks
 
It doesn't change the fact that you continue to have no clue what you are doing. Every post you make devalues your card and character.

calvindog 05-22-2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfish (Post 1541934)
It doesn't change the fact that you continue to have no clue what you are doing. Every post you make devalues your card and character.

He knows what he's doing on occasion. Like when he lied today to the board and said there was a seemingly non-existent mark on the back of an otherwise grade 7-8 card -- when just last year he claimed that someone tried to repair the same card, thus causing the A grade.

Bigb13 05-22-2016 04:49 PM

If you had the card in hand you could see I am not a lying.

gregr2 05-22-2016 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541929)
Your a piece of shit

My contribution to this thread... You're, not Your...

Donscards 05-22-2016 04:51 PM

I sure am glad I didn't make a offer on his card, I didn't realize the card was tinkered with---He should have been more honest on his listing and replies to everyone---A person for sure, I will not deal with---

calvindog 05-22-2016 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541939)
If you had the card in hand you could see I am not a lying.

You said two different things. When you weren't trying to sell the card you admitted that the card was altered -- which is what the flip says. Now when you're trying to sell it you're claiming that on the day the card was graded you were told it had a nearly invisible mark which accounted for the A grade. Unless you took the Wayback Machine to the day you got the card graded and the grader told you a different story than what you stated a year ago, you're a liar. Short answer: you're a liar.

Bigb13 05-22-2016 04:53 PM

Sounds like you are pissed you couldn't get it for 3500 I would never deal with a person like you.

calvindog 05-22-2016 04:54 PM

I spent 65K on an SGC 84 1914 Jackson. Do you think I want your piece of shit altered card?

iowadoc77 05-22-2016 04:55 PM

Hey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541920)
I did not respond to you because you were one of the ones breaking my balls about Cobb. I would not sell you shit. Quote that!

I guess u didn't want to admit that I apologized for my comments in the previous thread. But go ahead. Whatever works. Best of luck with the sale

Bigb13 05-22-2016 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1541942)
You said two different things. When you weren't trying to sell the card you admitted that the card was altered -- which is what the flip says. Now when you're trying to sell it you're claiming that on the day the card was graded you were told it had a nearly invisible mark which accounted for the A grade. Unless you took the Wayback Machine to the day you got the card graded and the grader told you a different story than what you stated a year ago, you're a liar. Short answer: you're a liar.

How would you like to meet face to face then try to call me an liar asshole

calvindog 05-22-2016 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541951)
How would you like to meet face to face then try to call me an liar asshole

Dummy, you got caught in a lie in this thread. And I'd meet you but only if you promise not to try to sell me your rebacked Lenox Cobb.

Bigb13 05-22-2016 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iowadoc77 (Post 1541949)
I guess u didn't want to admit that I apologized for my comments in the previous thread. But go ahead. Whatever works. Best of luck with the sale

So what you apologized big deal the damage was done

calvindog 05-22-2016 04:59 PM

Still waiting for you to explain why you said last year the card was altered and today that SGC told you on the day of grading that the card had a slight mark on it....

Bigb13 05-22-2016 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1541953)
Dummy, you got caught in a lie in this thread. And I'd meet you but only if you promise not to try to sell me your rebacked Lenox Cobb.

What are you talking about rebacked?

Bigb13 05-22-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1541955)
Still waiting for you to explain why you said last year the card was altered and today that SGC told you on the day of grading that the card had a slight mark on it....

They said there was a mark that someone tried to cover on the bottom of the back

calvindog 05-22-2016 05:01 PM

Where's the mark? And why did you say a completely different thing a year ago? Last year it was a crease that was repaired.

Bigb13 05-22-2016 05:02 PM

I always said the same thing

sycks22 05-22-2016 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregr2 (Post 1541940)
My contribution to this thread... You're, not Your...

+1. Biggest pet peeve

Bigb13 05-22-2016 05:04 PM

Leon please close this thread already all people do here is attack you here. Seems like only certain people can sell here only if your in there click otherwise they bash you.

calvindog 05-22-2016 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541962)
Leon please close this thread already all people do here is attack you here

Stop lying and you won't get attacked. And for God's sake man, is English your 9th language?

gnaz01 05-22-2016 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x2drich2000 (Post 1541907)
The scan is too small for me to tell, but is there a mark or did someone try to repair the card?


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=165527

Just read this thread where the OP posted it was a crease that was attempted to repair, NOT "has a mark on the lower back that's why it's authentic"!!!, WOW!!! :eek:

Here is his quote from the other thread: "Somebody tired to repair a slight crease on the back of the card besides that it is a beautiful Jackson. Rob"

Bigb13 05-22-2016 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1541963)
Stop lying and you won't get attacked. And for God's sake man, is English your 9th language?

I am not lying so stop saying it

calvindog 05-22-2016 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541965)
I am not lying so stop saying it

Can't stop won't stop.

bigfish 05-22-2016 05:12 PM

Outstanding Work Greg
 
Leon, this guy has to go. People have been bounced for much less. He's been pretty much undressed in this thread.

Bigb13 05-22-2016 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1541966)
Can't stop won't stop.

If I ever catch your fucking ass

Bigb13 05-22-2016 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigfish (Post 1541967)
Leon, this guy has to go. People have been bounced for much less. He's been pretty much undressed in this thread.

Put your name on your thread buddy

gnaz01 05-22-2016 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541969)
Put your name on your thread buddy

Anyone that has been on the board long enough knows who he is.........

NewEnglandBaseBallist 05-22-2016 05:15 PM

Just for the record, cursing a lot doesn't make you tough.

Bigb13 05-22-2016 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnaz01 (Post 1541970)
Anyone that has been on the board long enough knows who he is.........

That don't matter how long he's here you still need your name

calvindog 05-22-2016 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541968)
If I ever catch your fucking ass

Will you defraud me until my nose bleeds?

Bigb13 05-22-2016 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1541974)
Will you defraud me until my nose bleeds?

Tough behind the keyboard aren't you

calvindog 05-22-2016 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541976)
Tough behind the keyboard aren't you

Exceedingly tough. In real life I'm pretty mild mannered and afraid of my own shadow.

Tcards-Please 05-22-2016 05:31 PM

I could see where he was confused
 
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SGC said the reason for the "A" on my Jackson is because of the little pinhole at the top of the bat. If not for that it would have graded a 5. :D

r/
Frank

gnaz01 05-22-2016 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by t's please (Post 1541981)
sgc said the reason for the "a" on my jackson is because of the little pinhole at the top of the bat. If not for that it would have graded a 5. :d

r/
frank

lol :d

Bigb13 05-22-2016 05:36 PM

Wow that is funny

rainier2004 05-22-2016 05:54 PM

Wow...just wow.

Robert - I don't know what to say here, you seem to be caught in some double talk. Mr. Jeff Lichtman seems to have you dead to rights here. BTW, his CJ Jackson is one of the most beautiful cards you will ever seeing initiating instance chubby status...

So upon my inspection, you can see the mark on the front as well. This card APPEARS to have been repaired in some way whether it was a crease, rip or both. This combined with the obvious dishonesty = a million red flags. With all the CJs I have held, owned, sold and bought, I wouldn't have anything to do with this one. Good luck with the sale bud.

S Suckow

1952boyntoncollector 05-22-2016 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541842)
Like it says up top I don't know how to price it so I am listening to offers.

here we go again.......it probably better to put a price if you dont want a long thread and long delay in selling a card but its up to you

1952boyntoncollector 05-22-2016 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541896)
Don you are quoting vcp with a price of 3500 which doesn't even cover the one on eBay two weeks ago which was ripped in half and glued back that went for 4750 do no not even 5-6 would cover it.

you really cant insult people on offers if you have no idea what you want for the card...unless you do know....in which case put a price out there ...but its up to you

Bigb13 05-22-2016 06:05 PM

I asked Leon to lock it. I am not lying to me it looks like a mark was covered up. At first I thought it was a crease but it doesn't go through the front my eyes aren't the best but I think it was a pen or pencil mark that was covered. I would not sell it to anyone here that bash it.

calvindog 05-22-2016 06:08 PM

SGC originally told you the card had a crease repaired. You lied.

Bigb13 05-22-2016 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1541994)
you really cant insult people on offers if you have no idea what you want for the card...unless you do know....in which case put a price out there ...but its up to you

Besides the Cobb Lenox that everyone bashed this is the only other card I have tried to sell. It is beautiful but has something on the back so I did not know how to price it that why I asked for offers and people just come down on you

gnaz01 05-22-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1541999)
SGC originally told you the card had a crease repaired. You lied.

He actually stated in the other thread that someone tried to repair a crease, CASE CLOSED!!!! :rolleyes:

Bigb13 05-22-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1541999)
SGC originally told you the card had a crease repaired. You lied.

No I said I thought it was a crease

1952boyntoncollector 05-22-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1541997)
I asked Leon to lock it. I am not lying to me it looks like a mark was covered up. At first I thought it was a crease but it doesn't go through the front my eyes aren't the best but I think it was a pen or pencil mark that was covered. I would not sell it to anyone here that bash it.

i actually dont think he intended to lie, he didnt erase the prior post thats been used to impeach him (though he should of referenced that) I think the only issue is that he wants way over market price it appaers . If he justs put a price..say 10k for this card or whatever, i think people just move on because he wants too much for the card....asking for offers on this type of card sort of just asks for drama..

gnaz01 05-22-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1542002)
No I said I thought it was a crease

NO Rob, you said "Somebody tired to repair a slight crease on the back of the card besides that it is a beautiful Jackson. Rob"

Bigb13 05-22-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gnaz01 (Post 1542005)
NO Rob, you said "Somebody tired to repair a slight crease on the back of the card besides that it is a beautiful Jackson. Rob"

That's what I thought it was

Vintageclout 05-22-2016 06:18 PM

Jackson CJ
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1541948)
I spent 65K on an SGC 84 1914 Jackson. Do you think I want your piece of shit altered card?

That just about sums it up....well said Jeff!

Bigb13 05-22-2016 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintageclout (Post 1542010)
That just about sums it up....well said Jeff!

I would not sell shit to Jeff

Bigb13 05-22-2016 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1542004)
i actually dont think he intended to lie, he didnt erase the prior post thats been used to impeach him (though he should of referenced that) I think the only issue is that he wants way over market price it appaers . If he justs put a price..say 10k for this card or whatever, i think people just move on because he wants too much for the card....asking for offers on this type of card sort of just asks for drama..

Why not ask John Goodman about the card he held it and will remember seeing it at the LI National


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