the crazy price thread...
 

'63 rose 8.5 $42000
'68 ryan 8.5 $21000

With all of the craziness of late, two that stood out to me were:

55 Koufax 8.5 89k
60 Aaron 9 42k

1) 1916 M101 Sporting News Babe Ruth PSA 4 sold for $155k, about triple SMR of $55k
2) 1916 M101 Sporting News Babe Ruth PSA 5 sold for $195k, about double SMR of $100k

Since the 63 Rose 8.5 sold for $42k, is a 63 Rose PSA 9 a $100k+ card now?

sure hope so. might be time to unload the other one.

I understand acquiring the best card you can with the resources you have but it just seems crazy to pay 100x more than what this card cost, for the same card with just a little less wear.

agreed. gorgeous card!

edit: but then we'll be eating these words next month/year?!?!

Thanks, if I am going to dabble in post war I want to at least have decent looking cards. And Next month it will be 125x as much. :)

i like the way you use the word dabble w/ that rose and mantle! ; )

cant wait to see what happens if/when you decide to dive in head first....

I will be divorced after 21 yrs if that happens. Wifey only knows about the '51 Mantle :). There is a strategy to my collecting..... I always love the hunt.

what does a tornado and a collector's divorce have in common?

someone's gonna lose a mantle.

Amazing the rose rookie PSA 8.5 sale of $41k.
From eBay completed sales a rose rookie PSA 9 sold for $28.9k on May 7 this year and I recall a rose rookie PSA 9 sold for $34.9k a few months ago on eBay completed sales.

The same thing has happened over and over again in every Artsy Farty collecting community, in so far as investment vehicles I can only speculate.

It gets saturated by people who care about the price tag, and not the item itself. Once they move on, the dead cat bounce is left to the true lovers of the art.

How far down does it go? Who cares unless you need the money tomorrow to pay your mortgage! At some point people will jump in to pick up the pieces.

This same Pete Rose RC sold during February 2016 in a Probstein Auction for $11000+. A $30k ramp up in 3 months!

+1

It woud suck if you were a ken mcmullen relative or big fan...as it would be really hard to get a high grade rookie card of your great relative..

A 51 Mays PSA 6 just went for over 15k. Nice centering though.

the guy just bought the card on 5/23 as well.

was chasing it, but ended up finding a nicely centered one here on the board.

:D

Wow that's a pretty nice profit it a week. I'm sorry I missed it the first time. I was out of the running for this one but 6,500 would have been an instant buy.

This really has the feel of a price bubble that is driven by speculation. I don't see how this can continue. I'm afraid someone is going to end up feeling foolish.

i wasn't chasing it anywhere near that price either.

i knew it was purchased last week @ $6500, topped out before the final hour and the high bidder while it was stuck on $8100 had 100% bidding activity w the seller.

i have zero facts but i didn't like the feeling of rewarding the guy after he had already cleared nearly $2k in a week on the card already.

so i wasn't gonna chase it any further, but hot d@mn if that thing didn't skyrocket in the last 20 seconds and blew away my expectations as i thought the guy was gonna end up getting stuck w/ it by being greedy....

shows you what i know.

regardless, it was a beautiful card.

kudos to the seller on that one.

From a purely selfish point of view I hope it collapses because as it stands there is no way I'm ever going to be able to afford any of these cards, nor if I could would I ever pay that much.

The greater fool theory

I'm unsure if it counts, because the card itself has not yet sold, but there is a PSA 10 Johnny Bench rookie on eBay, asking for 75k. It is my understanding that would be far and away a record price, should the card indeed sell at that price point.

I received an offer for my sgc 7 clemente of 8,000. I believe this was a real offer. Since I bought it in 2007 for 2500, this would be a huge profit, but not earth shattering.

Honestly
 

The 10 and some of the 9s (and even 8s on a few cards) pricing doesn't shock me but pricing on 7 Rose ND RYAN AND 5-6 CLEMENTE ROOKIES is what is amazing to me and can't last. The high grade market can honestly stay at these levels but the mid grade stuff can't in my honest opinion.

He could ask 1.2 mil for it but no it doesn't count unless it's actually sold for that amount.

Edit: if you meant just to point out crazy prices then yes that could count, as would many other ebay listings.

Hi pokerply,

I agree with you completely. And yes, I was hoping to illustrate the various jumps in increase in eBay asking prices.

Best always,
John

I agree. The 10's and 9's have always drawn sometimes insane money. But for everyone out there just trying to complete a set, if the 5's and 6's start going crazy, it's going to be hard to afford to be a set collector.

says the 51 willie mays 6 that just hit $15k...

truth is no one in this room knows whats gonna happen.

each and every card is independent.

even from itself.

even in a comparable grade.

yes, not even all 6s are created the same.

"even beutiful 2s command respect", says the 52 mays thread.

eBay mays rookie is about to end psa 3 is at 2550 ! I don't know if this is a record but it seems high for a psa 3 .

51 Mays RC
 

Apparently you missed the B/S/T thread here on Net54:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...highlight=mays
Leon was selling his PSA 2.5 for north of 3k.
I had been looking at this specimen on Ebay, and not totally shocked to see the price, thus it could of went for more.
Its not rocket science here, rookie cards are going thru the roofs.
Just don't look at the grade folks, look at the card!!!!

Previous high price for a PSA 3 is $1,862.75.

It just sold for 2800 . Yeah I totally missed the b/s/t mays wow.

Never seen a price jump like this before!

It was $8,800 with 5 seconds or so left and jumped to over $15,000 at the end:eek:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-E...vip=true&rt=nc

Maybe not crazy, but a 51 Mantle PSA 4 just went over 11k and a 6 for over 24k. Neither well centered. An altered SGC 52 went for 21k. That was a nice looking card though.

It was, and a big price jump at the end as well!

I thought I was crazy paying $7700 for the 4.5 less than 2 months ago. Guess that was a good decision. The back of the 4 wasn't very nice either. I was more surprised the 52 in 2.5 being well centered went for under $17k.

Yea you did fine if it's the dead centered one I think I remember. That 52 was off top to bottom and had some surface issues so I wasn't too surprised by the price. Still a great card but I wouldn't have gone much more were I looking.

That was a damn nice Mathews. A genuinely tough card in that grade especially with that centering as opposed to Rose Koufax etc.

I agree, it was damn nice, but at $8,800, I believe that was the most expensive one I have seen to date, and I thought it'd stay around that or slightly higher until the end.

What really surprised/shocked me, (and of course it's not uncommon but the norm to see price jumps at the very end) is the fact it went from $8,800 to over $15,000 in 5 seconds! :eek:

I was expecting a few hundred, maybe another $1000 or so, but to see it almost double was a shock for me.

17k around is what the 2.5s go for i have seen for the past few months..

55 Koufax not even centered 6 for 4000+
LOL
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Topps-S...p2047675.l2557

The 52 Mantle was a very nice card for the price but the eye appeal is all the difference ... It is o/c a little bit top to bottom....and I think that kept the price on this one down.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...oAAOSwQupXUH7d

it was still a pretty nice card for a 2.5..it looked better than many 3s....

That one really was crazy considering two other 6s were available for BINs of 2200 (now sold) and 3k (still up). A 7 in the same auction with similar centering sold for 4,900. I think that buyer got a much better deal, obviously.

I agree 100%. Heck it's better looking than some cards in higher than 3 holders I have seen. As has been the case, the best looking cards for their grade will command prices of cards technically graded higher. If that 2.5 would have looked like this I would have bought it in a heartbeat.

Practically twins
 

Hi Leon,

Our Mantle's are quite similar.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...pswvftu8va.jpg

Very nice.

Those are some nice Mantles. The 53 Topps 7 at over 26k was also a new record, impressive since it did not have premium centering either.

On the RC side I'm sure that 57 Frank 8.5 shattered the previous high, among several others. Great looking card though.

18K (and counting) for a Fisk rookie???? :confused:
That you Bob? :D

Fisk? Really?

Yep. PWCC, ends tonight.

Frank Robinson still gets no cred
 

PSA 8.5 RC closed at 10.5K a few days ago (PWCC).

nope.

did you see one fisk card in that pile?

i only own 1 fisk card and it's a signed one.

Excellent.

There still might be time, no? Cecil Cooper was no slouch.

nope, i was focusing on centered, pre-70 hof rookies

and purposley steered clear from the yaz card as well

how did they turn out?

$72,100 for a PSA 9 Nolan Ryan 1968 Topps last night.

Steve

Willie Stargell is having a very good year, though perhaps not as good as Roberto Pete or Nolan.


6/13/16 eBay Auction | Image pwcc_auctions b***1 13 $1,724.00
6/8/16 eBay Auction | Image investinbaseball y***o 28 $1,275.00
6/6/16 eBay Listing | Image scorpion478 a***a BIN $1,300.00
5/29/16 eBay Listing | Image marino2mcduffe b***1 BIN $1,799.00
5/17/16 eBay Auction | Image consignmints y***o 35 $961.01
5/15/16 eBay Listing | Image mass35nyc c***b BIN $649.99
5/15/16 eBay Listing | Image vintageinvestments1 c***b BIN $675.00
5/8/16 Memory Lane Auction | Image 13 $684.00
5/6/16 eBay Listing | Image mace01 n***e Best Offer $525.00
4/19/16 eBay Listing | Image kjam6885 s***t BIN $425.00
2/10/16 eBay Auction | Image pwcc_auctions m***m 32 $456.00
2/10/16 eBay Auction | Image pwcc_auctions s***b 30 $455.00

i rest my case.

And Yaz!!
As Bobby says, woo hoo!!
For the first time in memory Levi may have left money on the table. :)

6/16/16 eBay Auction | Image lawmanrick c***c 17 $611.00
6/15/16 eBay Auction | Image scorpion478 y***o 26 $947.00
6/13/16 eBay Auction | Image pwcc_auctions a***t 12 $710.00
6/7/16 eBay Auction | Image probstein123 a***t 31 $805.00
6/2/16 eBay Auction | Image prewarjohnny 0***0 35 $575.00
5/30/16 eBay Listing | Image www.707sportscards.com s***1 Best Offer $195.00
5/26/16 eBay Listing | Image wilkiescards n***o BIN $289.00
5/26/16 eBay Listing | Image vintagerookies n***o BIN $289.99
5/21/16 eBay Listing | Image ericthayer5011 n***o BIN $299.99
5/21/16 eBay Listing | Image vintagerookies n***o Best Offer $265.00
5/20/16 eBay Listing | Image fscards1 n***o BIN $294.85
5/19/16 eBay Listing | Image duncan300 n***o BIN $275.00
5/19/16 eBay Listing | Image www.707sportscards.com n***o Best Offer $270.00
5/18/16 eBay Auction | Image scarrillo3574 g***u 18 $230.01
5/15/16 eBay Listing | Image red-zone o***g BIN $275.00
5/15/16 eBay Listing | Image mass35nyc o***g BIN $359.99
5/15/16 eBay Listing | Image mace01 s***n BIN $399.99
5/15/16 eBay Listing | Image laforge_79 o***g BIN $399.99
5/12/16 eBay Auction | Image canadiancardman2016 k***b 26 $191.38
5/8/16 eBay Auction | Image tc.8787 t***s 18 $228.05
5/8/16 eBay Listing | Image bkarr-2012 o***9 Best Offer $175.00
5/8/16 eBay Auction | Image dominikhasek39 e***e 20 $281.00
5/2/16 eBay Auction | Image gregmorriscards 2***1 24 $231.00
5/1/16 eBay Listing | Image thecardboardinvestment e***t Best Offer $260.00

Let us not leave out Sandy in good old 6.
What a month we are having!!



6/12/16 eBay Auction | Image pwcc_auctions i***t 57 $4,250.00
6/9/16 eBay Listing | Image vintagescards i***i BIN $2,295.00
6/8/16 eBay Listing | Image sltnofswatcolecter i***i BIN $3,995.00
6/8/16 eBay Listing | Image aviatorl1049 i***t BIN $3,395.00
5/29/16 eBay Listing | Image lbauthentics b***1 BIN $1,650.00
5/23/16 eBay Listing | Image vintagescards t***l BIN $1,995.00
5/22/16 eBay Listing | Image earhart47 9***8 BIN $695.00
5/20/16 eBay Listing | Image drc0860 d***o BIN $900.00
5/19/16 eBay Listing | Image deans_cards g***d BIN $1,280.00
5/15/16 eBay Auction | Image billp2005321 c***1 2 $1,026.02
5/15/16 eBay Auction | Image just_collect d***o 39 $1,001.01
5/14/16 Heritage Auction | Image 18 $3,651.00
5/14/16 eBay Listing | Image tmdcards y***s BIN $1,200.00
5/10/16 eBay Auction | Image pwcc_auctions n***l 30 $1,600.00
5/10/16 eBay Auction | Image pwcc_auctions c***8 24 $705.00
5/2/16 eBay Listing | Image champssportcards i***n Best Offer $780.00

my only yaz card:

http://caimages.collectors.com/psaim...yaz4psadna.jpg



but resorting to these depths?

you're better than this, pete.

The half grade makes the difference. The PWCC-HE does too. In an 8, mid 1s maybe these days?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Topps-F...p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Topps-F...p2047675.l2557

Spinning wheel, got to go round. Sure miss those crazy days of a week ago. Probstein's Rose at 2850 was real nice too.

Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 7 - Average Price: $3,367.00


6/16/16 eBay Auction | Image probstein123 n***m 28 $2,850.00
6/15/16 eBay Auction | Image psalegends n***s 34 $3,383.00
6/15/16 eBay Auction | Image scorpion478 s***0 22 $2,936.00
6/14/16 eBay Auction | Image f1element d***d 15 $2,152.00
6/13/16 eBay Auction | Image pwcc_auctions s***o 26 $3,450.00
6/13/16 eBay Auction | Image slacksstore i***i 38 $4,417.00
6/12/16 eBay Auction | Image cardstocash1818 e***e 13 $4,938.00
6/8/16 eBay Auction | Image probstein123 o***h 36 $3,075.00
6/8/16 eBay Auction | Image investinbaseball o***h 40 $3,075.00
6/8/16 eBay Listing | Image muckamire i***i BIN $3,750.00
6/7/16 eBay Auction | Image probstein123 n***m 59 $3,605.55
6/6/16 eBay Auction | Image psalegends z***z 27 $2,725.00
6/5/16 eBay Auction | Image psalegends c***o 23 $3,383.33
6/5/16 eBay Auction | Image 71c10 t***g 33 $4,352.00
6/4/16 eBay Auction | Image rjohnson_eb y***o 2 $3,949.00
5/31/16 eBay Auction | Image long3263 s***n 24 $4,740.00

Not baseball but here's a "crazy price" -- was a less than 1K card in April.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Topps-B...wAAOSwqBJXWgLE

definitely up there, even for pwcc.

of course, I have always thought vintage basketball/football should get more play considering the considerably less print runs...

68 ryan 5 @ $1565!?!?!

considering it's a 5. good looking card, but slightest crease and it's zero chance of bumping.

consignor had to be thrilled at that price!

wow. I wouldn't doubt there are literally 1 million of those cards. That is a an astronomical price to me.

That's it! I am consigning ALL my stuff to PWCC from now on.:eek:

68 topps are notoriously easy to find in HIGH grade, so maybe a million people want a Ryan rc? Wait make that one million and one.

vcp sales for past month just for depth perception at that price:

6/20/16 eBay Auction $430.99
6/16/16 eBay Listing $499.95
6/14/16 eBay Auction $1,559.54
6/10/16 eBay Auction $367.07
5/27/16 eBay Listing $349.00
5/22/16 eBay Auction $369.99
5/21/16 eBay Listing $499.99
5/20/16 eBay Listing $379.00

Mays psa 7 sold for 27,000 on eBay it just ended.

I was shocked by the 1977 Topps Walter Payton psa 10 . It sold for 8,100! Idk if this is a record but WOW.

CMIZE wants to know what SMR is for those 2 cards as one of the many tools to value cards..


Whats also funny is that when a card goes crazy..its like the once 'crazy' BIN price thats been sitting there is the only thing stopping the bidding...there is another psa 7 1951 Bowman Mays listed for 29k...im sure a day ago, that guy would of taken 25k.......if the BIN was for 35k...maybe the bidding on the one that sold today goes to 30k is my point...

im guessing that BIN one for 29k will be sold very soon

That Ryan 5 doesn't make any sense. Hard to imagine two people mis-typed their snipes but you never know.

The Mays has been over due. It's been under-rated for a while in my opinion.

Idk what the SMR is but your right on with your assessment. When things really started to pick up . I noticed all the low grade mays rookie were bought up on eBay.

crazy "asking" price. looks like even 4sc's trying to get in and asking triple:

koufax 5 @ $1800

vcp avg = $625

6/12/16 eBay Auction $765.00
6/9/16 eBay Listing $1,095.00
5/29/16 eBay Auction $706.00
5/26/16 eBay Auction $710.00
5/25/16 eBay Listing $650.00
5/17/16 eBay Auction $580.00
5/13/16 eBay Auction $482.00
5/12/16 eBay Auction $521.00
5/11/16 eBay Listing $550.00
5/10/16 eBay Listing $524.99
5/8/16 eBay Auction $494.99
5/6/16 eBay Auction $759.00