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richardcards 03-27-2016 01:20 PM

poor 1933 goudey ruth opinion
 
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1933 goudey ruth
Bought it 15 years ago at card

richardcards 03-27-2016 01:21 PM

back
 
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bobbyw8469 03-27-2016 01:32 PM

lol....damn

vintagesportscollector 03-27-2016 01:43 PM

The Babe always looked better from behind anyway.

ullmandds 03-27-2016 02:32 PM

Worth about the same real or fake!!!

BBB 03-27-2016 03:17 PM

poor 1933 goudey ruth opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1519821)
Worth about the same real or fake!!!



I'd wager someone would still pay $20-$30 if it were real.

ullmandds 03-27-2016 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBB (Post 1519830)
I'd wager someone would still pay $20-$30 if it were real.

Like i said...

brianp-beme 03-27-2016 03:29 PM

If real, because it is a Goudey Babe, my guess is it would fetch at least $100. The card's back looks possibly legit, but the front scan is just too blurry to make a virtual judgement.

Brian

richardcards 03-27-2016 03:38 PM

goudey ruth
 
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richardcards 03-27-2016 03:40 PM

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richardcards 03-27-2016 03:51 PM

goudey ruth
 
Not for sale but fyi PSA 0 go for $1200
$20? Wow
I wish could another one for that price.

mrmopar 03-27-2016 04:05 PM

A poor condition Ruth may sell in the $1200 range if it presents well. I have been watching the 181 over the last several months and poor copies routinely break $1K, but they look great for the grade. I don't know how well that version sells because I am not interested in it, but although I don't doubt someone would pay $100 for one that bad, I am not sure why. Isn't one of the allures of a baseball card the appearance? I suppose filling a hole for a set is one reason, but jeez...

ullmandds 03-27-2016 04:15 PM

My comment was made somewhat in jest as reprints routinely sell for a few hundred $.

bobbyw8469 03-27-2016 04:39 PM

There are different levels of PSA 1's. That being said, this card won't 1. It would set record low for "authentic" if it is real.

richardcards 03-27-2016 04:51 PM

Ruth
 
I trust the dealer I got it from 15 years ago.
PSA 0
goes for $1200 with 25 watching.
I will send to grading one day will show a lot nicer .
I have examined with my goudey cards and 100%.
$100? more like $750 but again not selling
happy easter

pokerplyr80 03-27-2016 05:53 PM

750 sounds pretty high to me in an authentic holder. 200-300 would be my guess. There is too much paper loss on the front for much more than that.

Bruinsfan94 03-27-2016 06:01 PM

If you could get 200-300$ I'd take it and never look back.

brianp-beme 03-27-2016 06:10 PM

Money schmoney
 
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Ok, how much for this authentic Ruth? It is obviously missing huge chunks and is actually in two pieces, but in my opinion it displays a lot nicer than the one posted. We all had a nice laugh when I have posted this in the past...it is not all about the money.

As a side question, I wonder how much someone would pay for my Diamond Stars Hornsby with the blank front?

Brian

bcornell 03-27-2016 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by richardcards (Post 1519857)
I will send to grading one day will show a lot nicer .

That is staggeringly dumb.

Bruinsfan94 03-27-2016 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1519872)
Ok, how much for this authentic Ruth? It is obviously missing huge chunks and is actually in two pieces, but in my opinion it displays a lot nicer than the one posted. We all had a nice laugh when I have posted this in the past...it is not all about the money.

As a side question, I wonder how much someone would pay for my Diamond Stars Hornsby with the blank front?

Brian

Yea I agree that is much nicer because you can actually see the Babes face & body. I think the only way someone would buy that Hornsby would be to use it for some kind of shady purpose.

bobbyw8469 03-27-2016 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruinsfan94 (Post 1519870)
If you could get 200-300$ I'd take it and never look back.

Agreed!! I was thinking $40 was too much!

pokerplyr80 03-27-2016 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bcornell (Post 1519879)
That is staggeringly dumb.

That's a little harsh. If there is enough of the card left to grade I would send it in. I'm sure it's worth more graded as raw there is more of a question of authenticity.

bcornell 03-27-2016 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1519901)
That's a little harsh. If there is enough of the card left to grade I would send it in. I'm sure it's worth more graded as raw there is more of a question of authenticity.

Please. If you put garbage in a holder, it doesn't "show nicer" and it isn't "worth more".

bnorth 03-27-2016 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcornell (Post 1519907)
Please. If you put garbage in a holder, it doesn't "show nicer" and it isn't "worth more".

Depends on the holder.;)

brianp-beme 03-27-2016 08:19 PM

Babe in the shade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruinsfan94 (Post 1519886)
Yea I agree that is much nicer because you can actually see the Babes face & body. I think the only way someone would buy that Hornsby would be to use it for some kind of shady purpose.

When I previously posted the Ruth, someone commented that they never knew the Babe had such an hourglass figure.

And scammers take note...the Hornsby is not for sale! The only shady purpose I intend for it involves using it as a coaster while resting in a hammock.

Brian

richardcards 03-28-2016 03:03 AM

opinion
 
I asked for opinions not insults
Thanks Billy. Im dumb and card is garbage.
Brain like ur ruth i think its awesome card.

bobbyw8469 03-28-2016 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by richardcards (Post 1519960)
I asked for opinions not insults
Thanks Billy. Im dumb and card is garbage.
Brain like ur ruth i think its awesome card.

Didn't mean to insult. You implied it was a $750-$1200 card though. That is ludicrous.

7nohitter 03-28-2016 05:04 AM

I would love to some day add a Ruth to my '33 collection, and condition is not an issue for me. HOWEVER, I wouldn't go more than $25 for that filler.

I would extremely surprised, even if holdered, this card fetched more than $75.

IronHorse2130 03-28-2016 05:38 AM

This one recently sold on eBay for $650

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-...p2047675.l2557

It has a very nice front with a back that has been destroyed. Based on this and similar sales I don't think it is realistic to expect $750 or more for your example.

bobbyw8469 03-28-2016 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IronHorse2130 (Post 1519969)
This one recently sold on eBay for $650

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-...p2047675.l2557

It has a very nice front with a back that has been destroyed. Based on this and similar sales I don't think it is realistic to expect $750 or more for your example.

You are insane. At least you can see the front on that one. How many people only look at the backs of cards and completely ignore the front?? ZERO. At least on the other example you can see the front. If you were filling it pages of a binder, that slot would be filled, and you can SEE it is a Babe Ruth card. On the OP's example, I have no idea WHO it is!

JustinD 03-28-2016 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1519976)
You are insane. At least you can see the front on that one. How many people only look at the backs of cards and completely ignore the front?? ZERO. At least on the other example you can see the front. If you were filling it pages of a binder, that slot would be filled, and you can SEE it is a Babe Ruth card. On the OP's example, I have no idea WHO it is!


I think Ben was attempting to say the same as you, he was not backing up the OP's opinion. He was offering a good example of a poor card to state the value was unrealistic.

Personally, I like well presenting poor cards and that example that Ben posted would be a great one for a low budget collector who wanted a Ruth. If it was displayed, no one would know the better. The OPs card ( and I am only being honest, no insult meant) I likely would not put more than 10 bucks toward and that would be just to give it to my son for fun. It has no presentation worth at all.

bobbyw8469 03-28-2016 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 1519977)
I think Ben was attempting to say the same as you, he was not backing up the OP's opinion. He was offering a good example of a poor card to state the value was unrealistic.

Personally, I like well presenting poor cards and that example that Ben posted would be a great one for a low budget collector who wanted a Ruth. If it was displayed, no one would know the better. The OPs card ( and I am only being honest, no insult meant) I likely would not put more than 10 bucks toward and that would be just to give it to my son for fun. It has no presentation worth at all.

Yea...I misread his. My bad. At least we are all in agreement.

Bestdj777 03-28-2016 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by richardcards (Post 1519857)
I trust the dealer I got it from 15 years ago.
PSA 0
goes for $1200 with 25 watching.
I will send to grading one day will show a lot nicer .
I have examined with my goudey cards and 100%.
$100? more like $750 but again not selling
happy easter

I am really confused. You know this card is authentic, and you know what the card is worth. What would you like an opinion on?

ullmandds 03-28-2016 06:52 AM

all cards presented are nicer and more valuable than that of the op. just because the op purchased a likely authentic beat to piss goudey ruth years ago for likely a song...the op shouldn't take it as an insult...unless he purposely made the card this way...that this card is not very valuable.

it is what it is.

Bpm0014 03-28-2016 07:12 AM

The guy who owns the $25 card in question here, and the guy that bought the $650 Ruth card with back damage on Ebay (2 threads above).........should get together and put BOTH cards in a holder back to back. Nice front, nice back. Problem solved! You're welcome....

glynparson 03-28-2016 07:19 AM

No way $750
 
Sorry but all Authentic grades are not valued the same. I honestly think you could get $300-$400 for the card in a
pSA or SGC authentic holder but it would not be an easy sell.

Leon 03-28-2016 08:00 AM

As in the other mistake you made, is your name Billy? Now I see why you couldn't see a thread that was in front of your eyes for 4 days. No big deal but you either need to slow down or speed up or something. PS...I think the OPs card goes for $223.50 in auction (if it went to auction).

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1519963)
Didn't mean to insult. You implied it was a $750-$1200 card though. That is ludicrous.


vintagesportscollector 03-28-2016 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bpm0014 (Post 1519988)
The guy who owns the $25 card in question here, and the guy that bought the $650 Ruth card with back damage on Ebay (2 threads above).........should get together and put BOTH cards in a holder back to back. Nice front, nice back. Problem solved! You're welcome....

Seriously, that's actually a really good observation. If I had the $650 Ruth, I would pay a premium (not $750, but something more than $25, $100?? maybe), just to get the clean back. That would be a cool display seeing front and back together side-by-side. In this case the whole (or two halves) would be greater than the sum of the parts.

bobbyw8469 03-28-2016 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1519999)
As in the other mistake you made, is your name Billy? Now I see why you couldn't see a thread that was in front of your eyes for 4 days. No big deal but you either need to slow down or speed up or something. PS...I think the OPs card goes for $223.50 in auction (if it went to auction).

Not really a mistake. I never got emails. You said I got them. Well, I didn't. You said I did though, so I'll take the hit and say I got them. My mistake. You can call me Billy.

PS....put me down for $20 on the UNDER....as long as it is a legit auction with no shilling or anything nefarious going on.

bobbyw8469 03-28-2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector (Post 1520004)
Seriously, that's actually a really good observation. If I had the $650 Ruth, I would pay a premium (not $750, but something more than $25, $100?? maybe), just to get the clean back. That would be a cool display seeing front and back together side-by-side. In this case the whole (or two halves) would be greater than the sum of the parts.

Agreed. Would make a good display piece in a frame or something. That is the ONLY way I would be interested in that card.

Leon 03-28-2016 08:24 AM

So Richards name is now Billy? I guess my name is Stan and you can be Steve.

I never said you got emails, Bobby. I doubt you did (though from what I see on the board you might have missed them if they were in front of your face.) It's not a big deal I was just pointing out you don't tend to see things in front of you.


Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1520007)
Not really a mistake. I never got emails. You said I got them. Well, I didn't. You said I did though, so I'll take the hit and say I got them. My mistake. You can call me Billy.


bobbyw8469 03-28-2016 10:02 AM

You can call me Al. Just don't call me late for dinner. God, I wish I owned a Goudey Ruth right about now! :-p

hangman62 03-28-2016 02:46 PM

ruth
 
front looks good
back is a reprint

richardcards 03-28-2016 05:07 PM

Ruth
 
Im not worried about the money but
I know its worth at least $500 some people see garbage I see a beautiful ruth card that's not for sale
thanks and good luck to all

Bliggity 03-28-2016 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardcards (Post 1520173)
Im not worried about the money but
I know its worth at least $500 some people see garbage I see a beautiful ruth card that's not for sale
thanks and good luck to all

Well, we're five pages deep now and we still don't know what you want an opinion on. Was there a question here? If the question is one of value, not a single person has agreed with your estimate, yet you still "know it's worth at least $500." Why ask for opinions if you know the answer already and aren't interested in listening to opinions?

ETA: I realize these are largely rhetorical questions at this point :D

richardcards 03-28-2016 05:33 PM

goudey
 
yes I asked for opinions but not anymore since I get estimates of $10 and $25
and insults that my card is garbage.

Bruinsfan94 03-28-2016 05:43 PM

So you want opinions as long as they agree with you? I'm not sure if the card is real and even if it was, does anyone think that one of the big three would holder it? If it is real I think it would go for over 20$ for people who want a filler or a real Ruth. A Goudey Ruth with a much better picture, though trimmed, went for like 375 last month.

richardcards 03-28-2016 06:06 PM

Ruth
 
im no longer interested in any opnions.
Ive put away my gem ruth for good.
thank u

pokerplyr80 03-28-2016 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardcards (Post 1520194)
im no longer interested in any opnions.
Ive put away my gem ruth for good.
thank u

That sounds like it is for the best. I doubt anyone will ever appreciate that card as much as you do.

frankbmd 03-28-2016 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1520204)
That sounds like it is for the best. I doubt anyone will ever appreciate that card as much as you do.

I've been formulating my opinion for a couple of days and now just when I am ready to pull the trigger, I am too late. Shucks!!!

frankbmd 03-28-2016 07:03 PM

I've been formulating my opinion for a couple of days and now just when I am ready to pull the trigger, I am too late. Shucks!!!

bobbyw8469 03-28-2016 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardcards (Post 1520194)
im no longer interested in any opnions.
Ive put away my gem ruth for good.
thank u

This whole thread is odd. LOL @ Gem Ruth! Odd.

mrmopar 03-28-2016 09:54 PM

This is the same member that posted the Pope card a few months back, is it not? I seem to remember he got quite mad about all of the comments on that thread.

Since the Ruth is not for sale, I guess nobody will know how high (or low) it may have sold for.

pokerplyr80 03-28-2016 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmopar (Post 1520283)
This is the same member that posted the Pope card a few months back, is it not? I seem to remember he got quite mad about all of the comments on that thread.

Since the Ruth is not for sale, I guess nobody will know how high (or low) it may have sold for.

Looks like the same. I found the thread, but it looks like the OP removed all of his comments from it.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=212030

bnorth 03-29-2016 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1520280)
This whole thread is odd. LOL @ Gem Ruth! Odd.

You should try the BO forum a little more if you want odd threads. My favorite is still the guy with the Alex Rodriguez super refractor missing the autograph and 1/1 numbering. He thought he had a gold mine when in reality it as a sack of aluminum cans.

richardcards 03-29-2016 07:14 AM

goudey
 
Yes just like pope thread
Wanted to share my card and get
Opnions but was only made fun of
And insulted.
Have a great day

7nohitter 03-29-2016 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardcards (Post 1520340)
Yes just like pope thread
Wanted to share my card and get
Opnions but was only made fun of
And insulted.
Have a great day

But you must be starting these threads knowing that many of the opinions may differ from yours. To some degree you're trolling and then feigning incredulity at the exact responses you are hoping to garner.

richardcards 03-29-2016 07:25 AM

goudey
 
No sir just i dont mind the opinions but
Just dont need any insults and made fun off
I really dont care but its not nice.

Bruinsfan94 03-29-2016 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by richardcards (Post 1520343)
No sir just i dont mind the opinions but
Just dont need any insults and made fun off
I really dont care but its not nice.

What were you expecting? You asked peoples opinions of the card, and they gave it to you.

asoriano 03-29-2016 10:10 AM

Some other threads by the OP that are pure gold:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=185898

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=189141

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=186797

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=187399

ullmandds 03-29-2016 10:16 AM

haha! why don't they call it round-teen...the jar is round...the cup is round...

bcornell 03-29-2016 10:33 AM

I was mistaken when I called the card garbage. Since it's cardboard, it should be recycled.


Bill

vintagesportscollector 03-29-2016 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1520412)
haha! why don't they call it round-teen...the jar is round...the cup is round...

That's Gold, Jerry!

Bruinsfan94 03-29-2016 10:38 AM

Based on those old threads he has to be a troll, hopefully.

richardcards 03-29-2016 10:48 AM

goudey
 
Just want share my card
For fun but got a bunch grief instead.
Oh well

PM770 03-29-2016 02:29 PM

Thanks for digging these up. My favorite was the "serious buyers only" for 1990 UD Ben McDonald cards. I only dare dream of such.

richardcards 03-29-2016 03:15 PM

yes
 
Yes perfect example regular post that where ruined and
Made fun of . Lots of fun
Good luck

pokerplyr80 03-29-2016 03:45 PM

The personal insults were uncalled for but there does seem to be some disconnect from reality with your perceived value of the card. Not to mention the other strange threads.

When you post a picture asking for opinions, that's what you are going to get. If you don't want to hear everyone's opinion I would suggest not asking for it in the first place.

I actually think your card has some value, more than anyone else who has commented in this thread in fact, just not nearly as much as you seem to think. Assuming it is real.

richardcards 03-29-2016 04:13 PM

goudey ruth
 
What strange threads?
Selling a ben mcdonald card or
Moises alou rookie is strange?
Sharing my pope rookie card.
Other people made the threads strange
The unrealistic value was given to me
$10$20 a reprint worth more.
No one will ever find a ruth goudey for those
Prices.
Card is real and regret asking for opnion
Or sharing card.
I still like my card and thats all that
Matters.
For the most part my experience this is
Unfriendly forum other than to look and search
for cards but not posting thread for opnion
My mistake
Thanks to all and good luck

mrmopar 03-29-2016 08:10 PM

Richard, I know this will probably fall on deaf ears, but I will say it anyway. Much the same way you are welcome to share your random thoughts. I have no idea what that Ruth would sell for if authentic, but I don't think even you could deny that it is not an attractive card by any stretch of the imagination. It is not an insult, but rather my opinion. I wouldn't own a card like that, period. If I had an authentic T206 Wagner like that, I would immediately try to sell it for whatever the market would allow.

I don't post here all that often and feel as though my collecting interests only grazes the boundary of most of the members who regularly post. I feel more comfortable on some of the other forums when it comes to sharing items and knowledge. I can put all of my prewar cards into a super shoe box comfortably. Certainly a member should not be ridiculed for a differing collecting interest, but this is a forum known primarily for prewar interests. To keep pushing Ben McDonald and Moises Alou cards kind of begs for the response you continue to get. Your replies do nothing to help your case either.

Imagine if you went to a very fancy high end steak house/restaurant and the waiter was trying to sell you a hot dog. That would seem odd to most. Ben McDonald is the hot dog in this steak house!

richardcards 03-29-2016 08:30 PM

ruth
 
I posted the ben McDonald and moise alou rookie on 80s not on pre war?
btw I like my ruth goudey.
thanks good luck

egbeachley 03-29-2016 09:05 PM

It's not easy finding an authentic Goudey Ruth card for under $100. Congrats!

bobbyw8469 03-30-2016 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by egbeachley (Post 1520634)
it's not easy finding an authentic goudey ruth card for under $100. Congrats!

lol!

ullmandds 03-30-2016 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egbeachley (Post 1520634)
It's not easy finding an authentic Goudey Ruth card for under $100. Congrats!

Did OP ever state what was paid for this "card?"

And honestly when a card like this(or the ted williams for that matter) is so beat to piss...gauging authenticity can be a bit harder to discern.

But to me the higher the likelihood it is not real.

Bruinsfan94 03-30-2016 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1520703)
Did OP ever state what was paid for this "card?"

And honestly when a card like this(or the ted williams for that matter) is so beat to piss...gauging authenticity can be a bit harder to discern.

But to me the higher the likelihood it is not real.

That Wlliams looks just like the "burn damaged" reprints on ebay.

ullmandds 03-30-2016 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruinsfan94 (Post 1520718)
That Wlliams looks just like the "burn damaged" reprints on ebay.

agreed

richardcards 03-30-2016 09:48 AM

ruth - williams
 
1954 wilson franks ted williams is not burned
and not reprint either has major
I like my card
Thanks

ullmandds 03-30-2016 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by richardcards (Post 1520794)
1954 wilson franks ted williams is not burned
and not reprint either has major
I like my card
Thanks

has major...what?

richardcards 03-30-2016 10:04 AM

williams
 
Issues

JustinD 03-30-2016 06:59 PM

(double post, sorry)


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