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MattyC 12-22-2015 03:16 PM

Card Found
 
Card found.

Sean1125 12-22-2015 05:42 PM

I wish you had told me this 6 months ago. I would have put more effort into finding one for you. :cool::cool:

GregC 12-22-2015 08:32 PM

I've got gravity spikes. Any finders fee for those?

MattyC 12-23-2015 12:21 AM

Well played, Greg. But of course you know SEAN has the gravity spikes. And he will always tell you when he has them.

tjenkins 12-23-2015 10:16 AM

There is a couple on eBay, probably over priced!

PSA 7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-TOPPS-N...YAAOSwHnFVivBO

PSA 6
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-TOPPS-8...gAAOSwnipWbFKQ

MattyC 12-23-2015 10:40 AM

Thanks, Todd. Saw those but the centering on both is just too off to pull the trigger. Appreciate the heads up.

Peter_Spaeth 12-23-2015 10:49 AM

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Only have an anemic 5.5. :D

tjenkins 12-23-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1484159)
Thanks, Todd. Saw those but the centering on both is just too off to pull the trigger. Appreciate the heads up.



I kinda figured so. I love the 53 Mantle. I actually collect o/c cards and I wish I could afford the 7. I currently have a PSA 4. Good luck in your search!

pawpawdiv9 12-23-2015 11:09 AM

Thats a nice 5.5 there Peter...defintely better centering that what Heritage has.
They got a nice PSA 7 coming up Jan 29th, but i know MattyC wont like the L-R centering on it. They also have another..a sgc70/5.5 pic unavailable 4/21 but based on the description, the centering may be off too.
But you should look at the MEMORY LANE preview----
THEY GOT A GORGOUS PSA 8.5 starting bid 17,500

http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/bi...a-4af0cd431d75
http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/im...em_37207_1.jpg
http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/im...em_37207_2.jpg
They got several HIGH GRADE MANTLES!!!!

Highstep74 12-23-2015 01:58 PM

Another Beauty@ goodwinandcompany.com
 
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Minimum Bid: $8,000.00
Current Bid: $18,868.00
Number Bids: 10

Highstep74 12-23-2015 02:01 PM

larger size
 
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Highstep74 12-23-2015 02:04 PM

disregard
 
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jeff8877 12-26-2015 10:21 AM

53 Mantle Dead Centered
 
Hi Matty,

Just thought would post a pic of mine that took years to run down. At some point I may sell my whole 53 set. I am also a huge centering nut on the high end cards.

Jeff

[IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...NTLEPSA6-2.jpg[/IMG]

1952boyntoncollector 12-26-2015 10:23 AM

theres a 8.5 on Memory lane if you want to pay 20k+

MattyC 12-26-2015 11:04 AM

20k+? I wish. But surely you jest. That card will go for much, much higher, is my expectation. I am actively bidding on it, but don't have my hopes up. A few weeks ago, I jotted down my gut instinct on where I think each Mick on that auction will end, so am very curious to see how the dust settles on this auction.

Jeff: great card. Seeing all these nice ones I'd love to have is like torture, LOL.

1952boyntoncollector 12-26-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1484826)
20k+? I wish. But surely you jest. That card will go for much, much higher, is my expectation. I am actively bidding on it, but don't have my hopes up. A few weeks ago, I jotted down my gut instinct on where I think each Mick on that auction will end, so am very curious to see how the dust settles on this auction.

Jeff: great card. Seeing all these nice ones I'd love to have is like torture, LOL.

right I wasn't going to look up the market value..just put a + over the 20k...I really meant 20k to a million...just more than the current bid price at the time .

MattyC 12-30-2015 07:22 PM

Bump-- throwing another fiddy bucks into the bounty pool. If you know someone who has one, holler. Thx.

Jdoggs 01-02-2016 02:37 PM

there's a nicely centered sgc 88 at goodwin auctions.

1952boyntoncollector 01-02-2016 03:24 PM

You might as well say the top price you will pay for the card for the grade....if the person has the card he will sell it to you and if someone knows someone that may have the card they get their own finders fee if you know what I mean...

offering 300 over market for a card in a private collection isn't going to happen for a card in the 1000s...I assuming you know all the auctions so the only way a finder fee applies is with a card in a private collection who could list the card at auction for market price any time they want...heck the 300 wont even cover the buyers premium for someone selling it at auction.....

MattyC 01-02-2016 04:13 PM

Jake, appreciate the help and thanks for the opinion, but I don't put a number out without seeing a card; I believe each and every card is unique, and I will pay a lot more for one card than another in the same grade, depending on the card's eye appeal.

The $300 is for anyone who helps me find the card, be it one owned by a friend of theirs, one they find in a local shop, one at an AH with which I am currently unfamiliar, etc. To be clear, it is not me saying to an owner, "Let me pay you VCP average, and by the way here's an extra $300, deal?"

If an owner contacts me directly and has a card I want, he will see right away from my opening offer that I am a serious buyer, happy to pay a top of the market or even record price, and ideally we'll come to an agreement that satisfies us both.

1952boyntoncollector 01-02-2016 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1487132)
Jake, appreciate the help and thanks for the opinion, but I don't put a number out without seeing a card; I believe each and every card is unique, and I will pay a lot more for one card than another in the same grade, depending on the card's eye appeal.

The $300 is for anyone who helps me find the card, be it one owned by a friend of theirs, one they find in a local shop, one at an AH with which I am currently unfamiliar, etc. To be clear, it is not me saying to an owner, "Let me pay you VCP average, and by the way here's an extra $300, deal?"

If an owner contacts me directly and has a card I want, he will see right away from my opening offer that I am a serious buyer, happy to pay a top of the market or even record price, and ideally we'll come to an agreement that satisfies us both.

so which AHs are you familiar with....that way no confusion if someone finds you a card at an AH and you say 'oh I am familiar with that one'

also didn't say anything about VCP average just asked you the most you would be willing to pay for a grade.best case scenario so people will know the upper limits which may help pry a card out of someones collection..but of course you not held to that amount, you would have to see the card of course and take it from there offer wise

1952boyntoncollector 01-03-2016 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1484826)
20k+? I wish. But surely you jest. That card will go for much, much higher, is my expectation. I am actively bidding on it, but don't have my hopes up. A few weeks ago, I jotted down my gut instinct on where I think each Mick on that auction will end, so am very curious to see how the dust settles on this auction.

Jeff: great card. Seeing all these nice ones I'd love to have is like torture, LOL.

the Goodwin sgc 8 is till in the low 20ks, you got to be the high bidder at least for now at that price..unless you downgrade the sgc to the psa 7+ level

pawpawdiv9 01-03-2016 12:33 PM

Just sent ya a PM on a lead. Its a Beckett 7, but by BMW..not sure you like a tiny, tiny tilt.
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UpgAAO...sp/s-l1600.jpg

CMIZ5290 01-05-2016 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9 (Post 1484169)
Thats a nice 5.5 there Peter...defintely better centering that what Heritage has.
They got a nice PSA 7 coming up Jan 29th, but i know MattyC wont like the L-R centering on it. They also have another..a sgc70/5.5 pic unavailable 4/21 but based on the description, the centering may be off too.
But you should look at the MEMORY LANE preview----
THEY GOT A GORGOUS PSA 8.5 starting bid 17,500

http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/bi...a-4af0cd431d75
http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/im...em_37207_1.jpg
http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/im...em_37207_2.jpg
They got several HIGH GRADE MANTLES!!!!

this card in my opinion looks highly over graded...big time.

Peter_Spaeth 01-06-2016 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1488480)
this card in my opinion looks highly over graded...big time.

Top corners on back do not really look like 8.5 in the brave new world of excruciatingly tough standards.

1952boyntoncollector 01-06-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1488610)
Top corners on back do not really look like 8.5 in the brave new world of excruciatingly tough standards.

The way the stock market is getting hammered you may just want to wait on the high dollar cards and grab them a bit later..

Iron Horse 01-06-2016 08:54 AM

Looks more like a 7-7.5
if i sent this card in i would get a 6.5

As they say, buy the card not the holder :)

Jdoggs 01-08-2016 09:40 PM

mattyc did you end up getting a 53 mantle yet?

MattyC 01-11-2016 02:10 PM

Still lookin'. Amazing how tough the centering is on this card.

1952boyntoncollector 01-13-2016 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1483972)
Card found.

where you get the card? lets see it..

pokerplyr80 01-15-2016 04:19 PM

I'm curious as well. What did you end up getting?

ZiggerZagger 01-15-2016 04:49 PM

I know the card was found, but check out this PSA 6.5 with sweet centering that went up earlier today. BIN at $8150.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291660827341...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

What's the consensus, fair price given the new reality of recent sales?

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yboAAO...7j/s-l1600.jpg

jmb 01-15-2016 06:05 PM

The 6.5 above is very nicely centered but the whole top left of the card looks stained.

KCRfan1 01-15-2016 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jmb (Post 1492128)
The 6.5 above is very nicely centered but the whole top left of the card looks stained.

+1. I noticed that too.

ZiggerZagger 01-15-2016 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmb (Post 1492128)
The 6.5 above is very nicely centered but the whole top left of the card looks stained.

Yeah, I've seen a few other '53T Mantles with the same stain in the upper left corner, to varying degrees. This one is a bit more expansive. Must have been a factory issue. All the more interested to see where this one shakes out.

1952boyntoncollector 01-15-2016 06:47 PM

[QUOTE=ZiggerZagger;1492090]I know the card was found, but check out this PSA 6.5 with sweet centering that went up earlier today. BIN at $8150.



What's the consensus, fair price given the new reality of recent sales?

(Plus need to factor in the stock market)

111gecko 01-15-2016 07:08 PM

My PSA 7
 
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What is the market value for a nicely centered 7 anymore? Probably one of my favorite cards in my collection.

ZiggerZagger 01-15-2016 07:31 PM

Amazing card, as always Gary! :D

MattyC 01-15-2016 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 111gecko (Post 1492151)
What is the market value for a nicely centered 7 anymore? Probably one of my favorite cards in my collection.

Great card. That's the grade I just bought. The market for it definitely robusto!

KCRfan1 01-15-2016 08:53 PM

Matty,

When are you going to unveil the card? Inquiring minds want to know!

MattyC 01-15-2016 09:05 PM

Thx, brotha. When I get it in hand I will def post a pic. Feel it's bad juju otherwise ;) I've been on cloud 9 since my buddy came through with it :D

Regarding that 6.5, that is a very handsome card; with centered 7s fetching $19,000+ these days, the jump really happens from 6 to 7 grade-- thus a 6.5 is a nice value.

I was initially tempted to make an offer on that 6.5 when I saw it in my auto search, since the centering is gorgeous, but for me personally the stain is a bit too much considering I already found one. If I didn't have one, I would probably have tried to bring that 6.5 home. I wonder if it merited the ST qualifier at a higher number grade, but the non-qualified status was chosen at the time of grading? Regardless it presents really nicely. If it didn't have that blotch I would be all over it and have doubles! An extra 53T could be a nice trade chip should a nice 62T surface!

Peter_Spaeth 01-16-2016 07:56 AM

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19K for a 7 these days? The world has gone mad lol. About a year ago I paid well less than 10 percent of that for this one. What happened to buy the card not the flip?:eek:

KCRfan1 01-16-2016 07:59 AM

Really nice card Pete! Sounds like the card was well bought too!

arexcrooke 01-16-2016 08:22 AM

Congrats Matt! Looking forward to seeing the Mantle!

1952boyntoncollector 01-16-2016 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1492256)
19K for a 7 these days? The world has gone mad lol. About a year ago I paid well less than 10 percent of that for this one. What happened to buy the card not the flip?:eek:

the POP may really start to change in the 7s ....like green cobbs the POP really changes in the 5s and higher..

You can still get a 5 in the 2000s so don't imagine a 5.5 really goes for that much more as half grades tend to sell for much closer to the lower grade than the higher..i have seen 2 grades mean 7-10x difference in price happens all the time

Peter_Spaeth 01-16-2016 09:07 AM

156 7s.
90 8s.

And that it happens doesn't make it rational IMO, particularly if one is collecting cards not flips.

1952boyntoncollector 01-16-2016 09:12 AM

dup

1952boyntoncollector 01-16-2016 09:16 AM

right 4s and 5's are both in the upper 400s...counting half grades that's 1000 cards for 4s and 5s together which have close to an equal amount each...

6s about 300 cards

only 250 from 7s and highers...it would look the break point for a big jump would be a 7 and higher..so makes sense to be a multiplier at the 7 or more level..


Happens with goudey ruths generaly.. PSA 1, 1000 PSA 2 2000, PSA 3 3000 essential even 4s go for basically 4000-4300...than at 5 'bang' can be 7000+ a multiplier as well..

The bang number with the 1953 Mantle is a 7...but maybe 6 is getting into play, who knows.....but certainly not at the 4-5 level with 1000 cards...

Peter_Spaeth 01-16-2016 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1492290)
right 4s and 5's are both in the upper 400s...counting half grades that's 1000 cards for 4s and 5s together which have close to an equal amount each...

6s about 300 cards

only 250 from 7s and highers...it would look the break point for a big jump would be a 7 and higher..so makes sense to be a multiplier at the 7 or more level..


Happens with goudey ruths generaly.. PSA 1, 1000 PSA 2 2000, PSA 3 3000 essential even 4s go for basically 4000-4300...than at 5 'bang' can be 7000+ a multiplier as well..

The bang number with the 1953 Mantle is a 7...but maybe 6 is getting into play, who knows.....but certainly not at the 4-5 level with 1000 cards...

A year and a half ago 7s were going for 4K. If you think a 4-5x increase in that short a time is sustainable, I would disagree with you. And a year and a half ago, presumably with similar pop ratios, a 7 was maybe 3x a 5.

jmb 01-16-2016 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1492191)
An extra 53T could be a nice trade chip should a nice 62T surface!

Jeff @ Card Country has a really nice PSA8 62.

1952boyntoncollector 01-16-2016 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jmb (Post 1492297)
Jeff @ Card Country has a really nice PSA8 62.

does he have a website..he has nice cards I know

KCRfan1 01-16-2016 09:24 AM

I have changed my mind Matty. I'm not interested in seeing the card. No need to post an image. :p

jmb 01-16-2016 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1492300)
does he have a website..he has nice cards I know

http://www.collectorfocus.com/collection/jdfoy

MattyC 01-16-2016 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmb (Post 1492297)
Jeff @ Card Country has a really nice PSA8 62.

Thx-- Jeff is a good buddy of mine, and have gotten several nice cards from him over the years. Was a blast to spend time chatting cards at his booth at the National this past summer. That Collector Focus gallery of his is one of my favorite ways to procrastinate when working, LOL.

Regarding the 62T he has, while the corner and edge wear are great and definitely what I am looking for, it's unfortunately not the right one for me.

Love looking at Peter's '53T Mick. That is a very, very rare example, in the sense that one has to look at 6.5s and 7s to have good odds of seeing an example that nice-- hence why I asked him if it was for sale when he first showed us the pic! If only there were more like that one out there, wish I got lucky and found its twin. Having shopped around fairly extensively, I can say I did not see another card in the 5 or 6 realm as nice as that particular card. Great find.

1952boyntoncollector 01-16-2016 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1492356)
Thx-- Jeff is a good buddy of mine, and have gotten several nice cards from him over the years. Was a blast to spend time chatting cards at his booth at the National this past summer. That Collector Focus gallery of his is one of my favorite ways to procrastinate when working, LOL.

Regarding the 62T he has, while the corner and edge wear are great and definitely what I am looking for, it's unfortunately not the right one for me.

Love looking at Peter's '53T Mick. That is a very, very rare example, in the sense that one has to look at 6.5s and 7s to have good odds of seeing an example that nice-- hence why I asked him if it was for sale when he first showed us the pic! If only there were more like that one out there, wish I got lucky and found its twin. Having shopped around fairly extensively, I can say I did not see another card in the 5 or 6 realm as nice as that particular card. Great find.


He has a nice 1954 topps psa 6 aaron but its priced at 3700 or so

Peter_Spaeth 01-16-2016 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1492356)
Thx-- Jeff is a good buddy of mine, and have gotten several nice cards from him over the years. Was a blast to spend time chatting cards at his booth at the National this past summer. That Collector Focus gallery of his is one of my favorite ways to procrastinate when working, LOL.

Regarding the 62T he has, while the corner and edge wear are great and definitely what I am looking for, it's unfortunately not the right one for me.

Love looking at Peter's '53T Mick. That is a very, very rare example, in the sense that one has to look at 6.5s and 7s to have good odds of seeing an example that nice-- hence why I asked him if it was for sale when he first showed us the pic! If only there were more like that one out there, wish I got lucky and found its twin. Having shopped around fairly extensively, I can say I did not see another card in the 5 or 6 realm as nice as that particular card. Great find.

Thanks Matt I feel like God has approved it!! :D

jmb 01-16-2016 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1492356)
Thx-- Jeff is a good buddy of mine, and have gotten several nice cards from him over the years. Was a blast to spend time chatting cards at his booth at the National this past summer. That Collector Focus gallery of his is one of my favorite ways to procrastinate when working, LOL.

Regarding the 62T he has, while the corner and edge wear are great and definitely what I am looking for, it's unfortunately not the right one for me.

Love looking at Peter's '53T Mick. That is a very, very rare example, in the sense that one has to look at 6.5s and 7s to have good odds of seeing an example that nice-- hence why I asked him if it was for sale when he first showed us the pic! If only there were more like that one out there, wish I got lucky and found its twin. Having shopped around fairly extensively, I can say I did not see another card in the 5 or 6 realm as nice as that particular card. Great find.

I PM'd you this one on January 3rd over at CU as soon as it was listed and never heard anything from you but it was ended shortly after.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantl...p2047675.l2557

Don't know if you ever even saw the PM as the PMs at CU seem to still have some issues. I haven't figured out how to send a PM here yet. Not very computer savy.

I definitely understand when you say the 62 isn't right for you. Check out Luckiest Man Sportscards. He's gonna put me in the poor house. :)

MattyC 01-16-2016 03:12 PM

Yeah the CU posting and PM situation is a hot mess. Hard to even indent posts there these days; I find myself reading and posting here more often when I have the bandwidth to chill with cards.

That 53T you linked was snatched up almost instantly by someone, not myself.

Yeah, there are some very gorgeous galleries on CF to cruise through and admire cards, the one you mention chief among them. If I ever won the Lotto I would love to look through that many great cards at the old desk!

Jdoggs 01-20-2016 12:17 AM

Congrats on getting the card you want.

irv 01-21-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jmb (Post 1492307)

Just a heads up. When I opened that link I received an immediate threat from Avast.

Not sure exactly the issue as I closed it right away, but with how quick it appeared, I am guessing it is not good!

KCRfan1 01-22-2016 10:33 PM

Matty,

When do we get to see this beauty?


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