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battlefield0516 t206 on ebay
This scumbag has listed a bunch of t206 that look really nice. They are most likely photoshopped. Just a heads up.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=185850 |
Thanks, Luke. Hopefully this thread can remain up top for all to see.
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Funny thing was that in my regular daily T206 searches, I saw a bunch of these and didn't even need to click on them to know whose they were just by the titles :D
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Yep, we got a few post-war threads on this guy as well from a few collectors.
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I almost fell for a few of his auctions but recognized the name from another site where they had listed is fraudulent auctions. Too bad as some of the "scans" would make some nice cards.
David |
I bought a raw t206 Huggins Hands At Mouth from him about a year ago. In the description he had all this bs like it was the nicest raw example you'll ever find of this Hofer. From the picture I could tell the corners were a bit rounded, but I figured it would still be in GD to VG condition. But after receiving it in the mail, there was heavy paper loss in the bottom left corner that never showed up in the photo. It was as if he lightened the photo of the card enough to make it seem undetectable.
I didnt spend all that much on the card so I wasn't too bummed, but if you describe a card as VG+ and you know darn well it's not, that's a shady seller. |
I guess I am lucky. He or she blocked me from bidding.
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Also got to love NO back scans ....... but stated has "nice back."
Not sure where "nice" fits into anyone's grading scale. :confused::eek::confused: |
Some of the T205's that were sold last week are back on ebay. I bought the Joss from him and the scan was clearly Photoshopped. He refunded my money right away. I left him negative feedback. Now the same card is back on ebay with the same photoshopped scan. This seller is a fraudulent POS!
Robert Dixon |
battlefield0516 is a person named Carol who resides in Dothan, Alabama. I won a couple of the raw T205 auctions that ended on May 5th. When I received the cards I was really disappointed. The backs of both cards had thick, dark, golden brown, horizontal lines covering them. They looked awful!
I usually don't bid on listings without back scans, but took my chances based on the very positive descriptions and the return policy. I've requested a refund and mailed the cards back recently. The person has been cooperative so far. The front scans for the T205s I won didn't appear to be photoshopped, but the cards were definitely removed from a scrapbook. I noticed the person listed more T205s yesterday and none of the listings have back scans. Steve |
I'd better start paying attention to whom I'm buying from off of eBay. But usually it's always the same people. And some people from here.
If you guys wan't I'll give him an earful lol. It's not like I haven't done that in the past to sellers. I'll get in the ring just need someone to ring the bell for me ...........................Round 1 ................ |
The seller sells a lot of legit cards with only a few shopped cards (usually higher priced) mixed in. That's why they still get a high volume of positive feedback.
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http://t205photos.webs.com/ First pic is the one in the eBay listing and the other two are of the card I received complete with a few creases, a lot more edge chipping and of course the horrible back. I still haven't received a response from them though and this is day 5. I'm starting to get a little upset about it. What else did you guys do to get a response from this idiot? |
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This is a good thing. Anyone who wants to be sure to never make the mistake of bidding in his auctions should give him an earful. He is sure to ban you for it :) |
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Haha you make a good point I'll give him an earful this weekend after a few pints. I'll do myself a favor by getting banned ! Another idea is a mass messaging him from people on this board to piss him off no ? |
I don't know if it will accomplish anything, but I just reported one of their listings using:
listing practices>fraudulent listing activities>you suspect that a listing is fraudulent Maybe if we all do this, ebay will take notice. |
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It appears that the T205 Joss is no longer at auction and has been taken down.
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I don't understand this guy. He risks his business to sell a few cards. Why not just label them correctly. Someone will buy them. Not everyone is looking for great condition. Of course, he wouldn't be making as much money. You would think that maybe if he represented the cards correctly the collectors that collect that grade would buy his lesser condition stuff.
I stand by my original statement. Battlefield is a reprobate. He should be put out of business and run out of town. He is no better than the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. MATTHEW CHARLTON |
Seller just ran a '56T Koufax PSA 7 that closed yesterday at $310 w/ 31 bids. No back pic. Trying to upgrade my 6 and was tempted to bid. But, thanks to alarms raised in this thread, decided to pass.
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/battlefield0...p2047675.l2562 . |
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I don't think he is photoshopping his cards. I think he is using stock photos from ebay. When you list on ebay, ebay always asks if you want to use stock photos from current listings. I pretended that I was going to sell a 1933 Goudey #81 and I used the stock photo. The photo that came up was the exact card that he is selling. This way, he doesn't have to scan any of his cards. That is why his scans are small and they can't be zoomed. That is also why he doesn't show back scans.
I bought a 33 Goudey from him that looked like a nice card in the listing, but when I received the card, the top third of the card was completely missing. When I contacted him about it, he insisted that I had received the card that was shown in the listing. Rick |
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Check this thread, Rick.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=185850 You'll see many photos used by this seller, and then the actual card received by the high bidder. The centering on those cards matches perfectly, and you can clearly see how the seller manipulates the scan with a photoshop-type program. Also, I bought a Gretzky RC from Battlefield a few years back before I knew about their practices. When I received the card I noticed a lot more wear on the upper right corner than what appeared in Battlefield0516's scan on eBay. I dug deeper and found the same card had sold months before on eBay. You can clearly see the wear on the original scan, but on Battlefield0516's scan the upper corner shows no white cardboard stock. |
Thank god. I almost made the mistake of bidding on some raw cards last night they looked great and they were real cheap as they got closer to the finish line I actually looked at the seller and nonetheless it was battlefield. I sent him/her a message and cussed him/her out.
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I was watching a card from seller drahluck today, and it appeared as if their listings are very similar to Battlefield0516 (similar text in the titles, raw cards photographed against blue backgrounds, no back scans, etc.). This could be another side account for Carol aka Battlefield0516.
Completed auctions for drahluck: LINK I guess the one big difference is Battlefield0516 accepts returns because they know they're pulling shady shit, but drahluck states "all sales final", so maybe I'm jumpin the gun. |
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High grade and raw....with no returns. Sounds good to me...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/drahluck/m.h...684&rmvSB=true . |
Battlefield Listings
I've purchased several cards in the past from this Ebayer. The cards look amazing in the scans and the description lead you to believe that they are all 8's or higher. I returned a 1954 Topps Ted Williams and they refunded my money in just a few days. It was about a 5 at best and it looked like an 8 in their scans. The chipped edges weren't visible in the blue background that they use in all of their listings. I also purchased several 1952 Topps that were not as nice as the scan presented or the description lead me to believe. I chose to take the lost and stop buying from this Seller.
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He's got several mantle's posted too. This '57 is at $400+ now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICKEY-MANTL...item5b178d6064 |
FACT: If you bid on and win a Battlefield auction - You WILL NOT be happy when you get your item. Avoid them and be HAPPY :)
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Scumbag is stating it mildly!
Yes I am one of the lucky blocked bidders as well. Ebay should remove this CROOK! |
Same mistake
Have bought from this seller many times most cards are 2 grades below description and bid accordingly. Just bought t206 hummel listed as nearmint got card full 1/16 inch short top to bottom returned item 4 days after sellers receipt of card still no refund but card relisted as you guessed it...near mint.no more for me I am done too many sellers out there.
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I'm no lawyer, but shouldn't it be a crime to sell a $1,000 + card you know is altered yet insist it not? Or any card for that matter? |
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So, she just won the trimmed Old Mill Cy Young from PWCC, popped it out, photo-shopped it, and re-listed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...oAAOSwPCVX7~Yt http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...sAAOSwn7JYCaXg |
I am not sure I see a photo shop job, but I definitely think removing it from the holder where it was clearly labeled as altered and not disclosing that is a really shitty move.
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"Up for auction is a 1909-11 T206 Cy Young (Glove Shows) #525 vintage baseball card. This card has an Old Mill Back. This card is in wonderful condition! It is 100% authentic and unaltered! ..." |
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I wonder if Brent would have any pull getting this POS off of eBay.
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They will always stress that a car is "clean". Usually repeating themselves 3-4 times while you're there. I've always found this tactic rather comical. |
If I were to get battlefield to block me from bidding, would that mean I'd be able to no longer see her listings? If so, I'm gonna spam her message box until she blocks me.
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Unfortunately I noticed this thread after bidding and winning a brooks robinson fleer card from battlefield the other day. Just got it in the mail today and there is a clear brown spot on the border of the card that miraculously wasn't there in the scan. So she definitely is photo shopping. That, or her top loaders generate bacteria like a petri dish. It was a $13 card but I'll definitely be demanding a refund. We'll see how it goes
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I have taken a look at some of the newly- listed, high-end Battlefields cards and have noticed something different in her description for the '53 Topps Mantle. Usually for of these type beauties, eg. '54 Topps Aaron she will state "authentic and unaltered" This statement, of course, gives rise to recourse for a winning bidder who finds out otherwise. She only states for the Topps Mantle that it is authentic. Hmm, the Sherlock in me deduces that perhaps she knows something about the Mick's card which makes her drop the unaltered bit. Hmm.
On the other hand, her new scans are pretty darn good. That is, of course, if you know what you are looking at |
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I am going to see if I can get the authorities interested in this one. It's just wrong....
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How is this person still allowed to sell on Ebay? I remember being scammed by him or her a year ago on a high end 55 All American card that was definitely not in the picture.
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I got battlefielded right in the kiester once. I bought a parkhurst nagurski and the back had road rash. I gave a negative but kept the card.
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Carol's a nasty woman.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILLIE-MAYS-...item5b2d24d4ef Good luck, Leon. I hope you are successful! She needs to go! |
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29 bids at time of posting.
People either don't check out her feedback, or they see the "Top Rated" Gold ribbon and think she must be honest. That Gold, Top Rated seller ribbon bothers me! :mad: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUKE-SNIDER-...YAAOSwn7JYCabS |
The seller really profits of the greed of the buyers who think the spotted a great deal on ebay, even though who the heck would sell a 1000 card raw on ebay etc.. people thinking they are buying a psa 2-5 etc and its going to come back authentic.
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For some reason I do not think a lady is doing this
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The authority whom I spoke tp about this, this morning, had a chuckle over the top rated status. Maybe TOP Fraudster would be more like it. At the end of the day I think the only one to get this crooked seller is going to be their Karma. Since they give immediate refunds it is going to be hard to find a victim and it won't be a case most authorities want to take. I guess we will have to be the police on this fraudster. Report them to ebay, give them negatives and make their fraudulent lifestyle hell, is about all we can do. I tried....
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I know I will never purchase anything from her but sending her frequent messages might be something I'd do:D Thanks for trying, Leon. :) |
Simply said this kind of lowdown nickel and dime scumbag stuff really pisses me off.
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It is pretty far from nickel and dime now. The price is over 600. It's probably going to go for even more.
If this person is making 400.00 a day they are stealing an awful lot of money. |
I have to believe this board is a major irritant to them, or they are just past caring about deceiving bidders and ruining what little reputation they have left. Tonight's ending auctions might be a watershed moment for them, particularly the T206 Old Mill Young described as "authentic and unaltered" and tks to this forum we know otherwise. Last I saw the card was sailing towards a grand with multiple bidders. The happy winner with dollar signs flashing in his eyes will no doubt rush it PSA and receive a rude awakening.
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if they are outwardly and openly selling items that are not as advertised, why has no one gone after them? I know there are several attorneys on this board, maybe one of them can chime in. I have no idea if their auctions are all bad or not, but my single transaction with them was not as advertised for sure. Why does eBay allow it? If they truly are breaking the law, why are we all powerless?
Mark |
Same thing on the nonsports side............
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Some people actually keep the card when they receive it in "not as described condition", thereby enabling the process. Not me - I purchased 30 lots and returned 22 of them after leaving 17 negatives and 5 neutrals. |
My problem is the deliberate attempt to defraud that started this thread off. This isn't retouching or photoshopping or even trimming, this is taking a card you KNOW to be no good, and claiming it is.
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I am sure battlefield, in a round about way, is taking business from all of them. I mean, take for instance, someone fairly new to the hobby, or even an average everyday collector, once they realize they have been burned, they are sworn off E-Bay for good. We have a site up here called Kijiji, and it's amazing how many people won't even go near it due the scams and other shenanigans that often occur on there if you are not sharp. I can't help but think the same goes with E-Bay. Fool me once........... |
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I think that the fact that most buyers don't bother to leave negative feedback once they get refunds is one reason that she/he has been able to stay around for so long.
James |
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