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Bigb13 03-14-2015 02:58 PM

T206 Ty Cobb Red background Lenox back
 
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Listening to offers on my T206 Ty Cobb Red background with a Lenox backAttachment 182807

rocarroll 03-14-2015 04:13 PM

All I can say is WOW. That is an amazing card!

vthobby 03-14-2015 07:06 PM

Lenox....
 
Robert,

Cool card with a Lenox back that you don't see very often......and actually, you don't see it in your ad either ! :) Please post the back pic of this beauty and please PM me a ballpark on this card. Thanks, Mike

CMIZ5290 03-14-2015 07:10 PM

PM sent, thanks...

MVSNYC 03-14-2015 07:50 PM

Kevin, I thought you only collected high grade cards? ;)

Big- PM sent

Rob D. 03-14-2015 08:35 PM

PM sent!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bigb13 03-14-2015 09:40 PM

Nd
 
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Bigb13 03-16-2015 08:32 AM

Here's a picture of the back

Bigb13 03-19-2015 05:11 AM

Still available very rare. Email offers

1952boyntoncollector 03-19-2015 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1391991)
Still available very rare. Email offers

if you put a price it may be easier to sell the card but up to you

Bigb13 03-19-2015 10:42 AM

I have taken this card to several card shows and showed it to a dozen or so people and auction houses and they estimated it at 25-35k. Rob

1952boyntoncollector 03-19-2015 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1392102)
I have taken this card to several card shows and showed it to a dozen or so people and auction houses and they estimated it at 25-35k. Rob

people may think you are asking for 25k I guess...your call...

calvindog 03-19-2015 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1392102)
I have taken this card to several card shows and showed it to a dozen or so people and auction houses and they estimated it at 25-35k. Rob

Rob, if they think the card is worth 25-35K, have any of them offered to buy it from you for that amount?

Republicaninmass 03-19-2015 12:43 PM

I think he missed a decimal

Bigb13 03-19-2015 12:44 PM

I posted that I was listening to offers if someone offers something I can live with than ok but everyone wants a price.

calvindog 03-19-2015 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1392148)
I posted that I was listening to offers if someone offers something I can live with than ok but everyone wants a price.

I find that with expensive cards, people don't usually like to bid against themselves and need a price.

Rob D. 03-19-2015 01:40 PM

Any interest in trading for drastic miscuts?

Bigb13 03-19-2015 01:43 PM

Think I will go the auction way

Luke 03-19-2015 02:20 PM

Lol Rob

1952boyntoncollector 03-19-2015 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1392168)
Think I will go the auction way

let everyone know where you send it....we can 'out' the card so people know about it so it doesn't go cheap

Bigb13 03-19-2015 02:28 PM

Thanks

Sean1125 03-19-2015 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1392152)
I find that with expensive cards, people don't usually like to bid against themselves and need a price.

I had submitted a private offer well within the reasonable range for this card before it was posted publicly and was spammed 50 times. Told him I wouldn't be interested if it was posted publicly.

I believe he killed his own market by spamming pictures of it everywhere.

1952boyntoncollector 03-19-2015 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean1125 (Post 1392209)
I had submitted a private offer well within the reasonable range for this card before it was posted publicly and was spammed 50 times. Told him I wouldn't be interested if it was posted publicly.

I believe he killed his own market by spamming pictures of it everywhere.

what you mean spammed 50 times....they sent out your offer?

you don't have to say your offer but whats the range you think this card would sell for at auction

bobbyw8469 03-19-2015 03:26 PM

I have seen VCP....and yes, the card is rare.

Bigb13 03-19-2015 04:13 PM

Yes it is very rare even the Ty Cobb back has more. Rob

calvindog 03-19-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1392239)
Yes it is very rare even the Ty Cobb back has more. Rob

There are 100+ rarer cards than the Red Cobb with the Lenox back -- rarity certainly doesn't correlate directly to value.

The only downside to putting it up for auction is the lack of control you have. Unless you plan on being a JC, you'll have to live with the result. You may want to keep trying for the best offer as the sale of the card means a lot to you.

Orioles1954 03-19-2015 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1392242)
There are 100+ rarer cards than the Red Cobb with the Lenox back -- rarity certainly doesn't correlate directly to value.

The only downside to putting it up for auction is the lack of control you have. Unless you plan on being a JC, you'll have to live with the result. You may want to keep trying for the best offer as the sale of the card means a lot to you.

True. However, a couple of auction houses have stated reserves which does stifle bidding but gives a certain amount of control to the consignor.

insccollectibles 03-19-2015 04:54 PM

Here's one example that sold in 2009 SGC 50

http://www.goodwinandco.com/1909-11-...n-lot6687.aspx

Bigb13 03-19-2015 05:00 PM

Nice example but that was six years ago.

Joshchisox08 03-19-2015 05:16 PM

T206.org values it at about $4,100. I'm sure the back adds some though regardless of what t206.org says.

calvindog 03-19-2015 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1392256)
Nice example but that was six years ago.

That 50 is spectacular. Granted it was six years ago but it's a really nice 50. If someone somehow offers you 25K I'd jump on it.

1952boyntoncollector 03-19-2015 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1392268)
That 50 is spectacular. Granted it was six years ago but it's a really nice 50. If someone somehow offers you 25K I'd jump on it.

He said he putting it for auction and I asked him to let us know where it is...it not going to sell here as looks like net54 to small a sample for him to get the price he wants or believes would be a good price...I wonder what the biggest sale ever was on net54 b/s/t at least asking price was that was realistic... 100k?

Bigb13 03-23-2015 07:05 PM

I will put it away until I decide what auction house to use. Rob

Bigb13 04-01-2015 06:35 AM

Bump one last time for the hell of it

Leon 04-01-2015 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1392297)
.I wonder what the biggest sale ever was on net54 b/s/t at least asking price was that was realistic... 100k?

I sold a card for about 52k on the BST, in auction style :)......several years ago. I am not sure there has been a bigger sale, there could have been, I just don't know.

Jobu 04-01-2015 07:36 AM

What card was that Leon?

Leon 04-01-2015 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1396869)
What card was that Leon?

N167 Buck Ewing if I remember correctly....it was definitely a HOF'er N167 and I think it was him....but it's been 6+ yrs. ....so not sure I would swear on the player...

ps....my memory served me ok... except it was 55k and not 52k......

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...t=n167+auction

Bigb13 04-01-2015 10:55 AM

I may go with Net54 auction not sure yet

CW 04-02-2015 01:02 PM

Well, we all should get some idea of this card's current value, give or take (this one is a grade higher, but we can adjust after the fact)...

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=33727

Sean 04-02-2015 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CW (Post 1397323)
Well, we all should get some idea of this card's current value, give or take (this one is a grade higher, but we can adjust after the fact)...

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=33727

How did this one grade a PSA 3 with that big crease ?

Bigb13 04-03-2015 06:34 AM

That's what I was thinking SGC I think would have given it a 2 good I my opinion

Gobucsmagic74 04-03-2015 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1397548)
That's what I was thinking SGC I think would have given it a 2 good I my opinion

No offense, but that card is considerably cleaner than yours so I can't imagine it grading SGC 30.

Joshchisox08 04-03-2015 07:40 AM

Easy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1397328)
How did this one grade a PSA 3 with that big crease ?

Because it's PSA lol.

Bigb13 04-03-2015 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74 (Post 1397569)
No offense, but that card is considerably cleaner than yours so I can't imagine it grading SGC 30.

Who was talking about my card?

Gobucsmagic74 04-03-2015 08:13 AM

Just commenting on the fact that you believe the referenced PSA 3 card would have been graded Good by SGC when it looks considerably nicer than your card which has been graded SGC 30.

Bigb13 04-03-2015 11:01 AM

SGC is a lot stricter than PSA

Gradedcardman 04-03-2015 12:54 PM

Cleaner
 
I'm with Dan. The REA Cobb is a beauty and very clean compared to the SGC 30. I think the grades are fair.

chaddurbin 04-03-2015 12:59 PM

people bashing psa because it's cool? that's a psa 3 now and would've been a 3 in 2005. would go as far as that deserves a 3 more than the OP's card deserving of a 30 from SGC.

Bigb13 04-03-2015 04:11 PM

This is a BST thread not a bashing thread at least I have one more than the bashing people have.

Gobucsmagic74 04-03-2015 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1397798)
This is a BST thread not a bashing thread at least I have one more than the bashing people have.

I'm sorry if you felt like I was bashing your card in any way, its a frickin' amazing card man! Did not intend to offend you in any way...I wish I owned that one.

rats60 04-04-2015 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1397798)
This is a BST thread not a bashing thread at least I have one more than the bashing people have.

The only one bashing anything is you. You said the REA one is over graded. Most disagree with you. We think both cards are graded fairly and amazing cards. Please let us know when you put yours up for auction.

DerekMichael 04-04-2015 12:21 PM

Both of these cards are absolutely awesome and I can only dream of having either in my collection.

Congrats to the future owners of both.

Bigb13 04-05-2015 03:14 PM

Lets have some fun what do you guys think that the VG3 will close at?

Econteachert205 04-05-2015 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1398498)
Lets have some fun what do you guys think that the VG3 will close at?

20k

Blunder19 04-05-2015 07:00 PM

$35-$40K would be my guess.

Rob D. 04-05-2015 08:35 PM

$75k

mrvster 04-05-2015 09:05 PM

i'm
 
thinking $25,000

TUM301 04-05-2015 09:18 PM

My guess, 27500.

Sean 04-05-2015 10:01 PM

$27,000

Bigb13 04-07-2015 09:01 AM

Any more guesses

Joshchisox08 04-07-2015 09:02 AM

$15-20k

Rob D. 04-07-2015 09:55 AM

$90,000

MVSNYC 04-07-2015 10:15 AM

$25k

chaddurbin 04-07-2015 11:03 AM

bump

insccollectibles 04-07-2015 11:17 AM

16k

brass_rat 04-07-2015 11:26 AM

.

Bigb13 04-07-2015 12:47 PM

Well I put mine away to many people asking what I would take and not enough offers.

bigfish 04-07-2015 01:23 PM

red cobb
 
Maybe it's time to lock this thread so people who are selling stuff will stay at the top?



Toby

1952boyntoncollector 04-07-2015 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1399122)
Well I put mine away to many people asking what I would take and not enough offers.

You said you sending it to an auction house already....

Mountaineer1999 04-07-2015 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1399140)
You said you sending it to an auction house already....

+1 One of the more confusing threads

Bigb13 04-07-2015 02:39 PM

I did not send it anywhere yet.

calvindog 04-08-2015 07:26 AM

I'd love to see that card out of the holder.

1952boyntoncollector 04-08-2015 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigb13 (Post 1399160)
I did not send it anywhere yet.

Well you said you sending it. if you end up not sending it it looks like you just trying to get more offers as a bluff if you end up not sending it....or are you in the 'just keep it' stage.. :) 50 shades of selling...

Bigb13 04-08-2015 10:28 AM

It was raw for a long time before I decided to have it graded by SGC somewhere I have a picture of it raw I will try to find it.

Luke 04-08-2015 10:39 AM

Can we change the name of this thread to My Lenox Cobb Diary and move it to the main page? We could tune in every day to read the OP's daily musings and how he is feeling about the card that day. I'm not saying it isn't entertaining. It just may not belong here anymore.

Republicaninmass 04-08-2015 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeLyon (Post 1399453)
Can we change the name of this thread to My Lenox Cobb Diary and move it to the main page? We could tune in every day to read the OP's daily musings and how he is feeling about the card that day. I'm not saying it isn't entertaining. It just may not belong here anymore.

Thats a great idea, then we can comment on the price! otherwise it isnt allowed in the BSt posts.


Some past sales show
GAI 1 1800
GAI 2 4500
SGC 2 3300

So were these rebacked or is the wrong back is listed?

Bigb13 04-08-2015 10:55 AM

I wanted to sell it and still do but nobody is making offers. What's your problem do you have to be at the top of the BST thread. If someone asks a question I will respond to it and someone wanted to see a raw picture.

Luke 04-08-2015 11:10 AM

Pretty sure I'm not the only one who thinks this thread has run it's course. And yeah, it would be nice if my (and everyone else's) brand new threads could be on top for a few minutes. As to whether I would have posted that if I didn't already have a problem with you, maybe not. You probably have a point there. I'm trying not to get into internet arguments so I'll leave it there. Carry on.

Sean 04-08-2015 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 1399458)
Thats a great idea, then we can comment on the price! otherwise it isnt allowed in the BSt posts.


Some past sales show
GAI 1 1800
GAI 2 4500
SGC 2 3300

So were these rebacked or is the wrong back is listed?

Ted, how old are these prices? I think that SGC2 for $3,300 is the card that I bought back in 2008.

The last Cobb Lenox that I recall was a PSA 3 that sold for $18,000 in 2013 in a Goodwin auction.

Bigb13 04-08-2015 11:19 AM

If you don't have interest in the card just take a walk.


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