Guess the grade and explain why?!
 

Sorry for the small scan...its the best I can do here at work.

I have consigned my T206 Phillippe "no name" card to REA for their spring blockbuster auction.

In the past I have contacted both SGC and PSA to determine if they would grade this card...and if so...how...with frustrating results!

This card is back from PSA. So what did it grade?

Any guesses?

Authentic?

If that's a surface wrinkle on the front, I'd say a 2? Assuming they deemed it authentic.

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If there is no paper loss it came back at 2.5

I'm going with Authentic

Looks VG to me as long as back is ok

back is fine...that IS a surface wrinkle vertically on lower front.

Looks like a 1.5 to me with the miscut, crease, and corner wear.

Packs...I am not a student of the nuances of grading...why do you say this is miscut?

Corner wear and crease, my guess is 1.

PSA 1.5 (I think I see a verticle crease in the bottom middle that goes about half way up the card).

I would say a 2. Corners and wrinkle being the reason. I have certainly seen worse 2's, but that would be my guess.

Tom C

I can't tell if it's off center or miscut from the scan. The tiny top border and huge bottom border say miscut to me. It also looks like the bottom border has an angle to it.

I say 2.0. My question is whether they added "No name on front" or something similar to the flip. My guess is that PSA wouldn't have done that though I have seen it on a SGC flip.

I'd go with 1.5 - the crease/wrinkle looks fairly large to me, centering, rounded corners. For me, that makes it 'Fair'.

keep em coming...no one is correct yet.

Does the card have a qualifier of some sort?

Oh, wait. You said PSA graded it. Then I'm changing my guess to a 3 thinking they missed that big crease. :D

Rejected--altered.

there will be no hints.

2

i'm shocked it's taken this long for someone to guess this!!!!

Psa 2 (pd)

what is pd?

3.5
 

3.5

2 (mk). Possibly because they think there is some erasure?

1

3.5
Because I didn't see it guessed yet, and I have seen some graded this high with the same condition issues.

Pete, my guess is 3 NNOF.

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And you guys aspire to be "professional" graders someday!!!!!!

id grade it a 2 as long as the back is fine, but since you said its not a 2 maybe would psa really grade it 3.5?

A (SCRAP) :eek:

3

i wish a lot of you guys "were" professional graders!!!!!!

ok then....they said it was COU - Counterfeit?

I give up what is it?

My initial guess was a 2, but since a few people already guessed that, I bumped it up a few grades ;)

I'm stumped too...what it be?


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My guess is they didn't grade it because they were unable to determine its authenticity...

giving up is not an option...if you were a "professional" TPGrader could u just "give up?" I think not! Keep guessing dammit!

Me too!!

Joe

Re: Guess the grade and explain why?!
 

Authentic-Altered? Because they couldn't determine if the caption was artificially removed.

Authentic - Printing Incomplete (Front)

1(mk)


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Guess the grade?!
 

Trimmed?

ok I guess that they didn't know what it is and sent it to SGC.....is that it?

Does PSA label cards "missing color" the way SGC does?

PSA 3 color variation

They returned the card saying they don't grade such cards

PSA 2 Player Unidentified

ding ding ding!!!!!!!!! good guess Leon...but NO!!!

lots of good guesses so far guys...and some not so good ones too!!!!!:D Still no winner though!


Apparently with our hundreds of years of vintage card experience...and that's just Frank...we are not qualified to be "professional" graders!

8.5
nm/mt+

Authentic because PSA indicates someone altered the card by removing the name text.

2 because of the rounded corners and small surface crease.

Cool card.

Authentic (Altered)

8 oc

My last guess because I don't see it listed (could have missed it).

PSA 2.5

ps...looks like post #4 already guessed it, I give up. :)

rejected for min size or...

you came to your senses and never sent it in to PSA :p

still no 100% correct answer yet...a few are very close! No former PSA graders here who can offer their expertise?

or rejected for maximum size????

authentic missing ink

.5

Must've been deemed at least authentic, cuz I can't imagine REA would put a $10 card with an erased name in their auction. So it must be unaltered. And everything from 1 thru 3.5 has been guessed already

the frustration is palpable friends! the frustration many of us feel upon finding out what grades our cards received upon arrival from the graders.

thanks to everyone for keeping me entertained throughout my morning...hint hint hint...there is a qualifier.

3(mk)

The flip indicates it's authentic but incorrectly names the player as Jay Leno because of his large chin???

good one! A for creativity!

1 (oc)

3 (pd)

Staying with 2.0 but adding an OC --- 2.0 (OC).

1 (pd)
1.5 (pd)
2 (pd)
3 (pd)

pd is the only qualifier I can imagine it getting ...

http://www.psacard.com/Services/PSAGradingStandards

I'm going with 4 (pd). Slightly rounded corners and graded by PSA.

What do I win?

now that's just bad etiquette...multiple guesses at once!!! Think outside the box...this is PSA after all.

2 MC. They are assuming the name was cut off.

Not able to grade. Altered stock?

So it got an OF (out of focus) qualifier? Phillippe's name is actually there, its just so out of focus you can't see it

2.5 (PD) my guess but wouldn't doupt the old AUTHENTIC N-O

I'm with ÄñÐ¥. Based on the guesses thus far, they must have given it a MC qualifier (why will always remain a mystery).

you guys have suffered long enough...the grade is

PSA 1(MC)

And I agree...how is this card miscut?

Yay!! I had the 1 right!

cut off from where? the extra fat bottom border????