Please show a card more rare than Wagner (T206)
 

Mike's (Freak happy) thread got me to thinking about the word rare and the T-206 Wagner and I couldn't help but think about all those posts we have read over the years about a collector's definition of the word rare. Well, I won't opine on the "rarity" of the T206 Wagner and it's value, but I would love to see a card you have that is more rare or scarce if you will. I am in a playful mood this New Year's Eve and would love to just keep this thread going into 2015 if the board thinks we can do it? It's simple. If you have a card that you know there is less than 75 examples known, please show an example. This will be fun... I will get it started :D HAPPY NEW YEAR NET 54! :

this should work...

Hoops
 

This is the VERY First Basketball card ever! Card #1!

25 exist in this grade with only 4 higher!

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peace, mike

OK, I'll play
 

I know of only a baker's dozen of these, including a Cobb, Matty, and Lajoie.

Bill

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t.jpg~original

This Tinker variation has a pop of one graded by SGC, and mine is the lone example graded by PSA. Take that Hans!

Jerome, that Street Coupon is a stunner. I love it.

I never really get tired of this one. On a side note, I should probably buy a better scanner...

http://www.louisianacards.com/upload...63269_orig.jpg

This must be pretty easy if I can do it, seeing as I mainly collect t206 and a couple of the easier caramel sets.

How about these.

So what's this?

Somewhat on point
 

Until recently, I had one that qualified - now in the hands of another board member.

Generally considered unique - authenticity a source of ongoing debate.

Here's a 1914 CJ that many feel is the best pose in the set. And while an argument can be made that each 1914 CJ may be more scarce than Honus, here is one that surely is...

yes
 

Of course.....I should have said 1st EXCLUSIVE basketball set, sorry.

On a side note, I just talked on the phone with a friend who met Nat when he was a kid, now that is pretty cool!

Nice card also!

peace, mike

Holsum
 

1920 Holsum, none graded by PSA and 3 by SGC.

Last I checked this was 1 of only 3 graded, and by far the worst condition of the 3.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=15124http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=15125

DJ

I'll play
 

Less than half a dozen of these.......

Im a firm believer that cards more rare than the Wagner
 

are quite numerous in example.

Probably less than 20 of these.
http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2f36e10b.jpg

Pretty much all of the 1920's Cuban issues.

Far as I know, this would be one. Anyone know of more than 75?

Based on the PSA & SGC pop reports, these are the only known examples of these T214 cards known to exist. And, there may be fewer T214s in existence of all players than there are T206 Wagners in existence. Further, I daresay there are thousands of pre-War cards of which there are fewer than 75 examples known to exist - in other words, there is nothing "rare" about the T206 Wagner - INHO, it a stretch even consider it to be "scarce" in relation to most other pre-War cards!
Val

Wag's...
 

Val,
You nailed it and thus what makes this thread so much fun. We could keep this thread going for 365 more days and still not run out of examples that are more scarce than Wagner. Yes, you are correct... Wagner is in fact not rare at all and I would say is not scarce in population. Just hoarded by folks with lots of money. (Gotta park it somewhere!) It's the most over rated, overhyped, over marketed card ever. Nice card, but nothing special imho. I think the Baltimore Ruth or the Cobb w/ Cobb back should be worth way more than the T-Wags. --- To keep this thread going, here is another one. This time a HOFer... There are easily less than 50 of these...

Pretty Much Any Coupon Fits the Criteria
 

Between PSA and SGC there are about 11 of the T213-2 Frank Chance Batting (New York). This is likely the ugliest of them.

The only rarer ones than this don't exist:

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Great spinoff thread! This should be a great thread to subscribe to...go back and drool whenever you get bored or just want to look at some great cardboard.

Sniffy5...I love that cj. That may be my favorite card/pose of any cj...just fantastical!

I'm speechless, and that doesn't happen often. :eek::cool::eek:

This is rarer than the Wagner, if anyone has one let's see it. Really like to see a Cobb.

larger than a card, but I call it a card. 4 3/4 x 6 3/4.

Joe

Well typed.

Need to add a few :eek::eek::eek:

1910 E-UNC Wagner
 

One of only 2 known......

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps81335320.jpghttp://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...psb2301273.jpg
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M116 Smith - Boston
 

Only one of these variations known...

Brian

Here is one I have.

Only one known

Nice. I am only aware of 3 cards known with that back.

1 of only 2 (Highest graded)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...kHerzog50x.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...0Herzog50b.jpg



TED Z
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Lots of Old Judges are...

My uneducated guess is that there are fewer than 50 of each card in each of these sets.

Cheers,

Richard.

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<IMG width="300" src="http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/georgegibson/baseball-cards/13915/1910-orange-borders" />

<IMG width="300" src="http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/georgegibson/baseball-cards/12142/1913-voskamps-coffee" />

<IMG width="300" src="http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/georgegibson/baseball-cards/18120/1922-w501" />

D380 Chase
 

The only known example.

My favorite card

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Awesome Chase Paul! I know of at least one person who's envious.

Ditto

More of "less than"
 

Nice Smith, Brian! Didn't know that variation existed.

Another in the "total population less than Wags". Haven't seen more than 20 or so with this back. They're on the edge of "carddom" as they're like other theatre cards, but these are on thicker stock, and may have been licensed/re-used later as advertising as they have a 12/31/1925 expiration date.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps07f2471c.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps12a814f0.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps6792e629.jpg

All the ones I've seen are Series "D", but that sort of implies at least three other series exist ... whether or not they're baseball is a separate issue.

--
Mike

It's a photo, not a card, but I wanted to play and it's my favorite one-of-one item. Back in 1913, if you had a choice of a T206 Wagner, or a photo that had hung on Honus' wall, it would have been a no-brainer...I think.

12x16 1913 Honus Wagner photo from his estate.

T213 Type 3 Zach Wheat with factory overprint.

N694 Risido

thanks Jeff P. !

Scott- killer Wagner photo.

Besides mine, there's a couple more Murphy BL 460's out there (hi Wonka), so a few known examples qualifies as rarer than the T206 Wagner...but I think that it's generally accepted that there are only about 50-75 TOTAL BL 460's that exist today anyway.

Amazing card Paul!

Nice BL 460 Mike. :)

Thanks Sean! Did you post some of your gems yet?

Okay, here's a Lenox Brown. Only 21 or 22 exist, and only one with Merkle.


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This thread is full of eye candy!

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Sean- Wow, great Brown Lenox!...Can we also see a nice scan of your Plank scrap?

Bigb13- show the Cobb Lenox back.

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images...1-d304-ty-cobb

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images...bit-lou-gehrig

T207
 

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The Mona Lisa of baseball cards

Beautiful photo.
Great job.

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Sorry for all the T207's, they are rare

Thanks, guys. I love this thread when it pops up from time to time, although I have to admit I get a little sick at my stomach when I see the BL460's - I had two very nice ones. Also had a Mino Wagner that was considerably tougher than a T206. My first super-rare cards was a pair of Allegheny's.

AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 Cobb
 

I realize that you really cannot rely on Pop Reports, however there are less than 8 these Cobb's graded by SGC....None by PSA....and, I know of one ungraded AB 460 Cobb.


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TED Z

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Brown ink back Walter Johnson, they used different inks on occasion

1910 Coupon
 

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TED Z

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Tougher Cobby

Awesome cards guys. Eye candy.

1910 COUPON Cobb
 

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...poncobb50x.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edCobb75xb.jpg


TED Z
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<a href="http://s8.photobucket.com/user/zouraspm/media/my%20collection/t215f.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/zouraspm/my%20collection/t215f.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo t215f.jpg"/></a>

1910 COUPON low Pop
 

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...everschase.jpg
....http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...schase25xb.jpg


TED Z
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Okay, here goes:


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Six more low Pop "T206's"
 

OK, you guys....just stirring up a little bit of late night controversy. :)

1910 COUPON cards....or whatever ?


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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Willett50x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Willett29b.jpg

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And for laughs, I'll throw in a rare 1915 COUPON Silent Screen star card.

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...eorgeBeban.jpghttp://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...orgeBebanb.jpg



TED Z

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Sean- Awesome!!

Your scans are a bit fuzzy? Can you adjust that on your scanner?

Sick cards Sean....I'd be looking at those every day



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Any from this set would fit the bill....

OK, then.................
 

......here's their weak sister HOFers (xc Tristan of course)

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I can't imagine there being 50+ of any T214, although I guess it's possible.
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