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1952boyntoncollector 09-10-2014 11:56 AM

FS 1952 Topps Jackie Robinson
 
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Decently centered

will want more than $2000..and take best offer.

This card sold...buyer said he LOVED the card..the white spots really minor in real life

1952boyntoncollector 09-15-2014 09:48 AM

price reduced 1952 jackie robinson
 
1800..

Peter_Spaeth 09-15-2014 11:08 AM

Look forward to the other 52s....

bobbyw8469 09-15-2014 12:19 PM

wow!!! I had a 4.5 that I sold for under $1,000. I wish I still had that card back!

1952boyntoncollector 09-15-2014 07:21 PM

psa 4
 
psa 4's routinely sell for 1000 on ebay as recently as 2 days ago and theres another one listed now thats at 500 with 4 days left....

i trying to save ebay fees..thanks

1952boyntoncollector 09-15-2014 07:22 PM

1952 Campy
 
That card sold the psa 6.5...so wont be listed..

autograf 09-15-2014 09:06 PM

What are the white dots above the bat? On the holder? Paper loss on card?

1952boyntoncollector 09-15-2014 09:13 PM

dont know they are on the card
 
not paper loss....wouldnt of been given a psa 5 ..just not red i have see white spots on other 1952s.....centering is really good for this jackie

1952boyntoncollector 09-15-2014 09:15 PM

white marks
 
theres a little white mark over the hat...the scan really blows up the white spots...in real life isnt nearly has noticeable..maybe should just take a picture...

1952boyntoncollector 09-16-2014 09:02 AM

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Heres a photo..pardon the shadow..

1952boyntoncollector 09-17-2014 09:48 AM

price reduced
 
1725...looks like ebay wins again and will make fees on a no reserve auction..

1952boyntoncollector 09-18-2014 09:37 PM

card is sold
 
sold! was a nice card..tough to say goodbye...

1952boyntoncollector 12-01-2014 10:39 PM

1952 topps jackie psa 5
 
nice to see my old friend on ebay again...guess the buyer didnt love him so much...and he was consigned..bidding already over 1700..

Peter_Spaeth 12-02-2014 06:25 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-J...item20f1286e31

It's now higher than almost any reported sale of a 6, and a world record for a 5. And hours to go still. The wonders of PWCC.

1952boyntoncollector 12-02-2014 06:46 AM

centering
 
buy the card not the grade...

1952boyntoncollector 12-02-2014 06:48 AM

just think
 
i begging for 1725 on this forum for that card......wont even try to sell my jackie psa 8 here!

BlueBlood 12-02-2014 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1350223)
buy the card not the grade...

Not to bag on your ex card, but the white markings flaw was probably the reason it wasn't sold here..They were probably looking at the card not the grade..

Peter_Spaeth 12-02-2014 05:36 PM

Fear not, a world record is upon us in PWCC.

1952boyntoncollector 12-02-2014 05:45 PM

jackie my old friend
 
i think the centering on that psa 5 though is really good...tons of cards have some spots on them....i think the card is a strong psa 5...

but who cares i dont have the card anymore..i also had that campy 6.5 thats selling tonight..i got it bumped from a psa 6 to a psa 6.5.....i think it was listed here as well and didnt sell for a price that will be hundreds less than it will sell for ..

Peter_Spaeth 12-02-2014 05:55 PM

You have to understand that there is a very limited market here compared to the whole world which is watching ebay. Especially for postwar. Sometimes stuff sells, sometimes it doesn't, it all depends on who is looking for what when, but no need to be complaining about the BST. I've had some very successful sales here but you can't expect that consistently.

1952boyntoncollector 12-02-2014 06:18 PM

52 jackie
 
not complaining...just pointing out the solid deals i have offered..and to look for more deals...i have made great deals here as well...also bought a lot of cards here real nice..... its free to post here..why would i complain...

not sure why you are complaining that i am complaining when i not complaining.....so stop complaining!

Peter_Spaeth 12-02-2014 06:22 PM

This to me is a complaint, or a diss, or something.

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i begging for 1725 on this forum for that card......wont even try to sell my jackie psa 8 here!

1952boyntoncollector 12-02-2014 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1350440)
This to me is a complaint, or a diss, or something.

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i begging for 1725 on this forum for that card......wont even try to sell my jackie psa 8 here!



yeah out of context...jackie psa 8 sold anyway...

Peter_Spaeth 12-02-2014 08:55 PM

2477 with two hours to go. Sometimes, things strain credulity.

1952boyntoncollector 12-02-2014 09:03 PM

1952s
 
PWCC doing really well with the 1952s..look how much the Nuxall is at..or the #12 Basgall......a big uptick in prices on 1952s..i going to send my high numbers to him it looks like..

1952boyntoncollector 12-03-2014 02:46 AM

doesnt happen everyday.
 
where you are offered are card on the forum for 1700 and 2 months later the same card sells on ebay for 2700...1000 dollars more...

autograf 12-03-2014 06:20 AM

wow.....it sold for more than the PSA6 did without the dots. Four 1952 Robinson's from PWCC closing on the same night. The PSA3 wasn't a bad deal for the look/condition. Straining Credulity is an aprapos phrase...........

Peter_Spaeth 12-03-2014 07:13 AM

It sold for more than ANY reported PSA 6 -- a full grade higher -- has ever sold for. Please.

1952boyntoncollector 12-03-2014 10:37 AM

card
 
well you cant say the buyer bought the psa 5 for the grade not the card since the psa 6 went for less.....

calvindog 12-04-2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1350523)
where you are offered are card on the forum for 1700 and 2 months later the same card sells on ebay for 2700...1000 dollars more...

I'm having a hard time understanding what you even say. I don't mean to be presumptuous that English is your first language but if it is can you make a bit more of an effort to be clear?

calvindog 12-04-2014 01:59 PM

And the two underbidders in this PWCC auction bid on almost exclusively PWCC auctions -- which suggests this could be yet another shilled auction. Who on earth would pay that price for that ugly 5?

1952boyntoncollector 12-05-2014 03:03 PM

no shilling
 
makes no sense to put in shill bids at least at the point when already 500 over the highest price ever for a psa 5 .....that only your opinion that card was ugly...many bidders not agree....

calvindog 12-05-2014 05:07 PM

I can't decide what's worse -- your grammar or logic. Do you have to pay $100 for each word you type and that prevents you from adding all the necessary words to form a sentence? And do white print marks help a card's value or hurt it? Here's your answer: in every auction but Probstein and PWCC the marks hurt the card's value.

Peter_Spaeth 12-05-2014 05:13 PM

I think he may be paid not to use apostrophes? :D

calvindog 12-05-2014 05:23 PM

i not believe that ... think PWCC just solds better....me hungry.

Peter_Spaeth 12-05-2014 05:24 PM

Even with the spots it was THAT much better than any other one. :)

12/2/14 eBay Auction | Image prewarcardcollector d***f 25 $2,607.77
7/20/14 eBay Auction | Image probstein123 e***e 43 $2,042.42
6/4/14 eBay Image boyd_wilson5whl n***d 24 $1,755.00
5/14/14 Heritage Image 10 $1,673.00
3/16/14 eBay Image autographsink n***n 29 $1,815.00
12/4/13 eBay Image prewarcardcollector u***r 46 $1,826.00
11/3/13 eBay Image prewarcardcollector l***a 23 $1,363.00
5/28/13 eBay Image probstein123 d***i 26 $1,158.77

calvindog 12-05-2014 05:26 PM

no shilling never ever not no no way not me
 
takes it out of context....pwcc solds best....i sells my 52 topps now...me tarzan you jane

frankbmd 12-05-2014 05:52 PM

I'd like to correct the grammar for you Jeff, but I am still working on the first sentence.:eek:

Peter_Spaeth 12-05-2014 05:56 PM

Frank you may need some of these. :D
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1952boyntoncollector 12-06-2014 11:11 AM

prices change
 
right attack the grammar but not the point that the card has several bids over $2000...no reason to shill when already record high

sometimes cards go up in value....even jackie robinsons that are centered amazing enough..

if past prices never changed and stayed the same forever..why are there price changes...eventually a card will go for more or for less than price history..

1952boyntoncollector 12-06-2014 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1351482)
Even with the spots it was THAT much better than any other one. :)

12/2/14 eBay Auction | Image prewarcardcollector d***f 25 $2,607.77
7/20/14 eBay Auction | Image probstein123 e***e 43 $2,042.42
6/4/14 eBay Image boyd_wilson5whl n***d 24 $1,755.00
5/14/14 Heritage Image 10 $1,673.00
3/16/14 eBay Image autographsink n***n 29 $1,815.00
12/4/13 eBay Image prewarcardcollector u***r 46 $1,826.00
11/3/13 eBay Image prewarcardcollector l***a 23 $1,363.00
5/28/13 eBay Image probstein123 d***i 26 $1,158.77

This is an upward trend in a year..looks like the card almost doubled in price. in a year...why cant it go up 30% more in 6 months......the other psa 5s not centered as well...i thought you buy the card not the grade?

also why even argue..proof is in the pudding.. ..it wasnt a buy it now..there were several bidders above $2000......even if the card not worth 2600..can be in the 2300 range in the next auction...no reason to be surprised if that happened...

calvindog 12-06-2014 02:17 PM

Sorry, I don't usually criticize grammar except when it's so painfully idiotic so as not to be believed. I honestly think that English is your second language. If not, perhaps you can explain to us why some sentences end with two periods, some end with none -- but no sentence ends with a single period.

And the "upward trend in a year" you mention is solely the work of two auction houses in which fraud is rampant: Probstein and PWCC -- based on their prior auction results which are suspect anyway. Regardless if the card is "centered amazing enough" (whatever that means -- I'll consult my ape/English translation program, however you previously described the centering as "decent[]."), it has an obvious print defect on the front. To suggest that this card is the wonderful specimen of all specimens to cause such a jump in price is laughable, even Mastro-like in its dishonesty.

Peter_Spaeth 12-06-2014 02:45 PM

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Here is what the card looked like a few months ago when it sold, presumably to Jacob, for 1755. What a difference a scan makes.

1952boyntoncollector 12-06-2014 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1351733)
Sorry, I don't usually criticize grammar except when it's so painfully idiotic so as not to be believed. I honestly think that English is your second language. If not, perhaps you can explain to us why some sentences end with two periods, some end with none -- but no sentence ends with a single period.

And the "upward trend in a year" you mention is solely the work of two auction houses in which fraud is rampant: Probstein and PWCC -- based on their prior auction results which are suspect anyway. Regardless if the card is "centered amazing enough" (whatever that means -- I'll consult my ape/English translation program, however you previously described the centering as "decent[]."), it has an obvious print defect on the front. To suggest that this card is the wonderful specimen of all specimens to cause such a jump in price is laughable, even Mastro-like in its dishonesty.

wow some may think you are personally attacking a poster on an issue of baseball cards...man real important to "look" real witty in a baseball card forum.

anyway..i think its just your opinion that the card isnt a great specimen for a psa 5.and not the final authority on the matter...we are talking general eye appeal.....but 3 others disagree that bid all time highs...i really dont see fraud happening when there is bidding with several bidders over an all time high...maybe to get the all time high, but once at the all time high you really got to be a conspiracy theory guy to think that they would play around with losing a deal when already above that limit

also you disagree with past sales because of the auction houses...well when the auction houses including ebay make up of the major part of the market share..i tend to cite those sales instead of some sales that make up very little of the market share..silly me...

1952boyntoncollector 12-06-2014 03:19 PM

for the record
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1351747)
Here is what the card looked like a few months ago when it sold, presumably to Jacob, for 1755. What a difference a scan makes.


i didnt buy the card for 1755...i 100% bought it off ebay...FYI....

Peter_Spaeth 12-06-2014 03:46 PM

OK fair enough my bad but my point was it sold in June for 900 less than it just sold for. Markets don't change that fast. SAME exact card.

Sean1125 12-06-2014 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1351766)
OK fair enough my bad but my point was it sold in June for 900 less than it just sold for. Markets don't change that fast. SAME exact card.

I disagree. I have made flips in less than a week for many factors more than the discussed sale on cards I thought I had paid too strong on.

Peter_Spaeth 12-06-2014 03:59 PM

On a readily available non rookie non Mantle/Ruth card in midgrade?

calvindog 12-06-2014 04:08 PM

......with numerous print defects ....... .. ..... .. .. ...

calvindog 12-06-2014 04:13 PM

.... Fyi .... .. .. .

BlueBlood 12-06-2014 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean1125 (Post 1351768)
I disagree. I have made flips in less than a week for many factors more than the discussed sale on cards I thought I had paid too strong on.

Probably a flip that you low balled on..Since you are a "dealer"

Den.nis Sch.err

Mikehealer 12-06-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean1125 (Post 1351768)
I disagree. I have made flips in less than a week for many factors more than the discussed sale on cards I thought I had paid too strong on.

That statement should help you obtain you some new inventory.

1952boyntoncollector 12-06-2014 07:59 PM

well 1952 topps is the First Topps Card of Jackie so a rookie in that sense..just like Mantle 'rookie' in Topps..

and centering of card was great.....overcomes 'print defects' in the bidders minds it appears....

it does look odd how on my pictures the borders are much less white than the pwcc auction....

Sean1125 12-06-2014 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1351772)
On a readily available non rookie non Mantle/Ruth card in midgrade?

Could you find me a centered 52 Jackie, please?

Sean1125 12-06-2014 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBlood (Post 1351813)
Probably a flip that you low balled on..Since you are a "dealer"

Hi, the rules require if you are going to make opinionated posts that your first and last name are visible.

Thanks.

Also, the specific flip I am talking to is a 52 Mantle that was purchased from Mile High and sold 6 days later.

1952boyntoncollector 12-06-2014 08:10 PM

sean
 
i would take a High Number Rice print defect if centered....there are certain high number 1952 Topps where less than 10% of the population is decently centered..including the Jackie... especially in the psa 5 range..

Peter_Spaeth 12-06-2014 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean1125 (Post 1351845)
Could you find me a centered 52 Jackie, please?

That took five seconds.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-3...item4875267810

and

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-TOPPS-3...3D161502394389

Peter_Spaeth 12-06-2014 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean1125 (Post 1351847)
Hi, the rules require if you are going to make opinionated posts that your first and last name are visible.

Thanks.

Also, the specific flip I am talking to is a 52 Mantle that was purchased from Mile High and sold 6 days later.

Sean as you know very well, a 52 Mantle is a little different than a midgrade fifth year (yes, I know, first Topps) Jackie Robinson in terms of whether you might be able to hit it big with a quick flip. You're comparing apples and peanuts.

Peter_Spaeth 12-06-2014 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1351842)
well 1952 topps is the First Topps Card of Jackie so a rookie in that sense..just like Mantle 'rookie' in Topps..

and centering of card was great.....overcomes 'print defects' in the bidders minds it appears....

it does look odd how on my pictures the borders are much less white than the pwcc auction....

Yep. Their scans are less thermonuclear than they used to be, but still quite bright. It looks like there is a black dot on the card that doesn't show up in the PWCC scan also.

Sean1125 12-06-2014 09:38 PM

Nevermind. Going to dinner. Have a good evening, everyone.

KC Doughboy 12-06-2014 10:03 PM

I'd just like to say, Congratulations on the sale and glad to see you got top dollar.
As a collector who regularly sells my duplicate cards, I'm pleased whenever I see sales prices going up and record prices realized.
Lastly, I it disappoints me to see this site allowing member(s) to personally attack another member and nothing is done to stop/delete it. Hopefully it's just a case of the owner/moderator not seeing it.

Mdmtx 12-06-2014 11:38 PM

I am with you Eric. I come to this site for fun. It gets old to see these flame wars. Begins to make me think about using my free time elsewhere.

Mark Medlin

1952boyntoncollector 12-07-2014 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Doughboy (Post 1351881)
I'd just like to say, Congratulations on the sale and glad to see you got top dollar.
As a collector who regularly sells my duplicate cards, I'm pleased whenever I see sales prices going up and record prices realized.
Lastly, I it disappoints me to see this site allowing member(s) to personally attack another member and nothing is done to stop/delete it. Hopefully it's just a case of the owner/moderator not seeing it.


Agreed...you see people on B/S/T. typically asking for a prices in which the net to them will never be realized on ebay...not in the jackie case...

In addition, if you notice in my posts i dont attack anyone, never understood what the point is to personally attack someone about about baseball cards. My posts are about discussing the aspects of the cards and you can see from many of my threads there are lots of responses. Arguments are fine but never understood what value there is for personal attacks.


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