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UnVme7 12-20-2013 12:10 PM

FINAL----HOF Ballot- Submit your own!
 
First off, if this needs to go in a different area, feel free to move it Leon.

I figured it would be a fun idea to submit our own votes for this years baseball HOF. I thought that setting up a forum poll would be the easiest and most accurate way of doing it, but I figured that some of you will be voting for those outside the normal top 10, which is the max for a poll on here I believe.

A few rules:

1) You can vote for as little as 1 player or a max of up to 10.
2) Only list the names, not your opinions of why you think they should get in
3) You are aloud to edit your votes up until we get closer to the final announcement.
4) Do not be judgemental of someones choices. If someone would like to vote on Mike Timlin, we might not agree, but be respectful.
5) Once we get close to the official announcement, we will post our own results.


Below are the names on the ballot:


Jack Morris
Jeff Bagwell
Tim Raines
Lee Smith
Curt Schilling
Roger Clemens
Edgar Martinez
Alan Trammell
Larry Walker
Fred McGriff
Mark McGwire
Don Mattingly
Sammy Sosa
Rafael Palmeiro
Mike Mussina
Jeff Kent
Kenny Rogers
Luis Gonzalez
Moises Alou
Ray Durham
Hideo Nomo
Tom Glavine
Richie Sexson
Paul Lo Duca
Armando Benitez
Frank Thomas
Mike Timlin
Barry Bonds
Sean Casey
Jacque Jones
Greg Maddux
Eric Gagne
Craig Biggio
J.T. Snow
Todd Jones
Mike Piazza


I'll go first:

Frank Thomas
Tom Glavine
Greg Maddux
Jeff Kent

CMIZ5290 12-20-2013 12:13 PM

Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine

Big Six 12-20-2013 12:29 PM

Jack Morris
Tim Raines
Alan Trammell
Fred McGriff
Don Mattingly
Mike Mussina
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio

chaddurbin 12-20-2013 12:42 PM

bonds
maddux
clemens
thomas
raines
glavine
trammell

p.s. there's respectful, then there's insanity. if someone votes for mike timlin i would block the member so i don't have to deal with his instability in the future.

Scott Garner 12-20-2013 12:47 PM

1) Greg Maddox (Definitely- A lock even though he's a c***) I'm a poet and don't even know it
2) Tom Glavine (Definitely)
3) Frank Thomas (Definitely the best hitting big man that I ever have seen in my lifetime)


I also like Jack Morris (The pitcher of the 1980's decade), Craig Biggio and Edgar Martinez as very strong possibilities.

baseball tourist 12-20-2013 01:09 PM

Jack Morris
Edgar Martinez
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux

packs 12-20-2013 01:47 PM

Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Jeff Kent

Surprised Kent doesn't show up on the lists above.

eastonfalcon19 12-20-2013 01:49 PM

Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Craig Biggio
Roger Clemens
Jack Morris
Mike Piazza
Tim Raines

Bugsy 12-20-2013 02:09 PM

Jack Morris
Tim Raines
Lee Smith
Jeff Kent
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio

39special 12-20-2013 02:36 PM

Morris
L.Smith
Mattingly
Glavine
F.Thomas
Maddux
Piazza

JayZim13 12-20-2013 02:44 PM

Hof
 
Tom Glavine
Greg Maddox
Fred McGriff
Frank
Thomas

maniac_73 12-20-2013 02:52 PM

Morris
Clemens
Mcgriff
Glavine
Thomas
Bonds
Maddox
Piazza


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perezfan 12-20-2013 03:42 PM

Glavine
Maddox
Thomas
Piazza

parker1b2 12-20-2013 04:23 PM

Maddox
Glavine
Thomas
McGriff(never gets any love it seems)
Kent
Mussina

bn2cardz 12-20-2013 09:28 PM

Barry Bonds
Frank Thomas
Mike Piazza
Roger Clemens
Curt Schilling
Greg Maddux
Rafael Palmeiro
Tim Raines
Edgar Martinez
Tom Glavine

71buc 12-20-2013 10:01 PM

Tim Raines
Lee Smith
Roger Clemens
Edgar Martinez
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Barry Bonds
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio
Mike Piazza

mr2686 12-25-2013 10:18 PM

Jack Morris
Jeff Bagwell
Tim Raines
Edgar Martinez
Fred McGriff
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio
Mike Piazza

toyman55 12-26-2013 04:58 AM

Roger Clemens
Mike Piazza
Greg Maddux
Barry Bonds
Tom Glavine
Mark Mcgwire
Jeff Bagwell

daves_resale_shop 12-26-2013 05:06 AM

Glavine
Maddux
Thomas
Piazza

barrysloate 12-26-2013 07:41 AM

Jeff Bagwell
Tim Raines
Roger Clemens
Sammy Sosa
Rafael Palmiero
Frank Thomas
Barry Bonds
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio
Mike Piazza

mighty bombjack 12-26-2013 08:00 AM

Jeff Bagwell
Roger Clemens
Frank Thomas
Barry Bonds
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio
Mike Piazza
Jeff Kent

canjond 12-26-2013 03:56 PM

Mike Mussina
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Mike Piazza

CharleyBrown 12-26-2013 04:11 PM

Tim Raines
Fred McGriff
Mike Mussina
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio
Mike Piazza

rustywilly 12-26-2013 04:15 PM

Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Craig Biggio
Mike Piazza
Jeff Kent
Mike Mussina
Tim Raines

Section103 12-26-2013 04:21 PM

Maddox
Bonds
Thomas
Glavine
Biggio

Donscards 12-26-2013 04:25 PM

Jack Morris---Roger Clemens---Don Mattingly--Frank Thomas--Greg Maddux and Mike Piazza

brewing 12-26-2013 05:41 PM

Jeff Bagwell

Tim Raines

Roger Clemens

Alan Trammell

Mike Mussina

Kenny Rogers

Tom Glavine

Barry Bonds

Greg Maddux

Craig Biggio


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ejharrington 12-26-2013 06:48 PM

Jack Morris
Curt Schilling
Mark McGwire
Sammy Sosa
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Barry Bonds
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio
Mike Piazza

HRBAKER 12-26-2013 06:54 PM

Maddux, Glavine and Thomas

"That's all folks."

MVSNYC 12-26-2013 07:35 PM

1st Ballot:

Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine

In a few years:

Craig Biggio
Mike Piazza
Jeff Bagwell
Frank Thomas

A few years beyond that:

Larry Walker
Fred McGriff
Mike Mussina

Will be interesting to see what ever happens with these guys...

Roger Clemens
Mark McGwire
Barry Bonds

bnorth 12-26-2013 07:56 PM

Roger Clemens
Fred McGriff
Barry Bonds
Craig Biggio
Greg Maddux

Next year I would vote for Frank Thomas and Tom Glavine I believe they are HOFers just not first ballot HOFers. I think that is reserved for the truly special players.

billyb 12-26-2013 08:09 PM

Maddux
Glavine
Trammell
Biggio
Thomas

drmondobueno 12-26-2013 08:21 PM

Edgar Martinez
Roger Maris

sago 12-26-2013 08:59 PM

Maddux and Thomas.

While I am sure Piazza will get his share of votes, being the best hitting catcher of all time (and arguably, I would put at least Yogi and Bench ahead of him), he cannot make up for being the worst defensive catcher of all time.

Nashvol 12-26-2013 09:31 PM

HoF
 
Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine

djrhanover 12-27-2013 04:14 AM

Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas

TaxMechanick 12-27-2013 01:07 PM

HOF Ballot
 
Jack Morris
Tim Raines
Curt Schilling
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio

earlywynnfan 12-27-2013 01:34 PM

Glavine
Maddux (duh!)
Big Hurt
Piazza (someday I'll have to start a thread to see what people have against him!)

I'd include the following, who I don't think are on the level above:
Jeff Kent
Biggio
Mussina.


I love Jack Morris, but just am not sure about him being a HOFer. Same with Raines.
I think the Shilling (years of dominance) vs. Mussina (years of steady quality) debate should be talked about more!!

Ken

MacDice 12-28-2013 09:33 PM

Jeff Bagwell
Roger Clemens
Edgar Martinez
Larry Walker
Frank Thomas
Barry Bonds
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio
Mike Piazza

JollyElm 12-29-2013 12:14 AM

Jeff Bagwell
Jeff Kent
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Mike Piazza

oldjudge 12-30-2013 01:50 AM

Maddux
Thomas

Wildfireschulte 12-30-2013 07:14 AM

Maddux
Glavine
Sosa

DH's need to wait a few years (Frank, Edgar)
Known PED users need to wait until they are dead - Sosa is dead, right?

bender07 12-30-2013 07:41 AM

Curt Schilling
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio

HRBAKER 12-30-2013 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildfireschulte (Post 1221652)
Maddux
Glavine
Sosa

DH's need to wait a few years (Frank, Edgar)
Known PED users need to wait until they are dead - Sosa is dead, right?

He's dead to the voters.
Also he did look quite pale last time I saw him.

Scott Garner 12-30-2013 12:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1221704)
He's dead to the voters.
Also he did look quite pale last time I saw him.

Is that hysterical, or what? Why do people want to change their skin color. Too weird!
Slammin' Sammy Sosa = Michael Jackson :eek:

wolf441 12-30-2013 12:51 PM

Jeff Bagwell
Tim Raines
Curt Schilling
Roger Clemens
Mark McGwire
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Barry Bonds
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio

ptr002 12-30-2013 02:42 PM

Hof
 
Morris
Glavine
Thomas
Maddox
Biggio

Frank A 12-31-2013 06:03 AM

Raines Shilling Glavine Maddux It amazes me how people vote for some cheaters but not all.

WWGjohn 01-01-2014 09:30 AM

Maddux
Thomas
Glavine

novakjr 01-01-2014 09:52 AM

Jeff Bagwell
Tim Raines
Edgar Martinez
Fred McGriff
Jeff Kent
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Craig Biggio
Mike Piazza


Harder than I thought. There's close to 20 guys on that list that I think should be in the HOF. These are just my top 10. BTW, I would vote for the PED guys..

Just for fun, I'll also write in: Albert Belle..

Anyways, given the log-jam, I think voters will put in a larger class this year, to clear things out moving forward.. Piazza, Biggio, Glavine, Maddux, Thomas and possibly Bagwell all get in this year. Glavine and Maddux go in as teammates, which is another reason that I think Baggy gets in this year, I think he'll tag-along with Biggio(although, I could see this happening next year).

UnVme7 01-01-2014 12:22 PM

Thank you to those that have participated so far. We'll let this go end of day on the 5th and we'll post final results.

For anyone that is interested, there are currently 97 known ballots that have been made public so far. Out of those 97, there would be 4 elected- Maddux, Glavine, Thomas and Biggio, with Piazza very close behind. All 97 had Maddux, and of course we all know some numbnuts didn't vote for him. But as of right now, on the 97 that we know, Maddux is on every single one.

Forever Young 01-01-2014 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnVme7 (Post 1222500)
Thank you to those that have participated so far. We'll let this go end of day on the 5th and we'll post final results.

For anyone that is interested, there are currently 97 known ballots that have been made public so far. Out of those 97, there would be 4 elected- Maddux, Glavine, Thomas and Biggio, with Piazza very close behind. All 97 had Maddux, and of course we all know some numbnuts won't be voting for him.

After you posted this.. there will be someone now for sure.

Maddux
Big Hurt
Glavine

UnVme7 01-01-2014 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever Young (Post 1222504)
After you posted this.. there will be someone now for sure.

Maddux
Big Hurt
Glavine

True, but I'm talking about the official votes, ballots that the writers have made public to us via Twitter, Facebook, etc., not our forum votes. I actually haven't calculated ours yet.

Kenny Cole 01-01-2014 12:42 PM

Maddux
Glavine
Thomas
Biggio
Piazza
Raines
Bonds
Clemens
Trammel
Bagwell

UnVme7 01-05-2014 09:07 AM

We'll go end of today and then total it up tomorrow. So if you haven't voted yet, and would like to participate, please do so before today ends.

Thanks guys!

Harford20 01-05-2014 11:43 AM

Maddux
Glavine
Thomas

bat_master 01-05-2014 12:05 PM

Jack Morris
Tim Raines
Lee Smith
Roger Clemens
Edgar Martinez
Alan Trammell
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Mike Piazza

jgmp123 01-05-2014 01:57 PM

Maddux
Glavine
Thomas

UnVme7 01-05-2014 05:19 PM

Going once...

sycks22 01-06-2014 09:26 AM

Big Hurt
Maddux
Glavine
Biggio

Jim65 01-06-2014 06:53 PM

Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Greg Maddux
Mike Piazza

UnVme7 01-06-2014 08:06 PM

FINAL

Maddux- 100%- 55 votes
Thomas- 85.4%- 47 votes
Glavine- 83.6%- 46 votes

-------------------------------

Biggio- 43.6%- 24 votes
Piazza- 43.6%- 24 votes
Bagwell- 20%- 20 votes
Raines- 30.9%- 17 votes
Clemens- 30.9%- 17 votes
Bonds- 27.2%- 15 votes
Morris- 21.8%- 12 votes
Kent- 18.1%- 10 votes
McGriff- 14.5%- 8 votes
Martinez- 14.5%- 8 votes
Mussina- 12.7%- 7 votes
Trammell- 10.9%- 6 votes
Schilling- 10.9%- 6 votes
L. Smith- 7.2%- 4 votes
Mattingly- 5.4%- 3 votes
McGwire- 5.4%- 3 votes
Sosa- 5.4%- 3 votes

----------------------------

Palmeiro- 3.6%- 2 votes
Rogers- 1.8%- 1 vote
Belle- 1.8%- 1 vote
Walker- 1.8%- 1 vote

Write-in:
Maris- 1.8%- 1 vote


Thank you to those that participated. Believe it or not, this is actually pretty accurate to the real ballots that have been made public.

jgmp123 01-08-2014 11:59 AM

New Hall of Famers:

Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas

bn2cardz 01-08-2014 12:34 PM

Can't get much closer than Biggio did with 74.8% of the votes... come on just round up :D

gashouse34 01-08-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1225192)
Can't get much closer than Biggio did with 74.8% of the votes... come on just round up :D

Was thinking the same thing....What is that 1 or 2 votes? Tough day for him.

jgmp123 01-08-2014 12:38 PM

I picked up a Biggio auto about an hour ago...hoping to add him to the collection before a price spike. I guess i'll have to wait until next year.

glynparson 01-08-2014 12:44 PM

My votes
 
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Mark McGwire
Sammy Sosa
Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas
Jack Morris
Mike Piazza
Alan Trammell

Scott Garner 01-08-2014 12:59 PM

Nate,
Thanks for starting this thread.
FWIW, congrats to Maddox, Glavine and Thomas.
All 3 deserve to be in the HOF in my opinion. :)

bn2cardz 01-08-2014 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gashousegang_1 (Post 1225195)
Was thinking the same thing....What is that 1 or 2 votes? Tough day for him.

Maybe they should grade on a curve. When a DUH! vote like Maddux doesn't get 100% of the vote then you know there are some voters who shouldn't be voting.

earlywynnfan 01-08-2014 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1225210)
Maybe they should grade on a curve. When a DUH! vote like Maddux doesn't get 100% of the vote then you know there are some voters who shouldn't be voting.

You know, I'm big on wondering how guys like Musial and such don't get 100% but sort of understand with Maddux. Is he a HOF lock? SURE! But with this ballot, crammed with players who are deserving (or at least deserving of a few years' discussion,) then I could see myself voting for 10 other guys, knowing full well Maddux will get in anyway.

Not saying this is the right thing to do, but I'd understand it.

Ken

bn2cardz 01-08-2014 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan (Post 1225231)
You know, I'm big on wondering how guys like Musial and such don't get 100% but sort of understand with Maddux. Is he a HOF lock? SURE! But with this ballot, crammed with players who are deserving (or at least deserving of a few years' discussion,) then I could see myself voting for 10 other guys, knowing full well Maddux will get in anyway.

Not saying this is the right thing to do, but I'd understand it.

Ken

This is why I say it should be done on a curve. I wonder if that is why Biggio didn't get those extra two votes, some just assumed he would be in and they could put their votes somewhere else. It only takes 2 guys thinking that way in this case.

Jim65 01-08-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1225210)
Maybe they should grade on a curve. When a DUH! vote like Maddux doesn't get 100% of the vote then you know there are some voters who shouldn't be voting.

Agreed, the writer who voted for guys like JT Snow shouldn't be voting either.

Forever Young 01-08-2014 03:04 PM

Anyone have a link to all the players that got votes and the corresponding percentages they could post?

earlywynnfan 01-08-2014 03:34 PM

This was posted by Rob over on the card side:

MLB.COM

Player (Years on ballot) Total Votes Percentage
Greg Maddux (1) 555 97.2
Tom Glavine (1) 525 91.9
Frank Thomas (1) 478 83.7
Craig Biggio (2) 427 74.8
Mike Piazza (2) 355 62.2
Jack Morris (15) 351 61.5
Jeff Bagwell (4) 310 54.3
Tim Raines (7) 263 46.1
Roger Clemens (2) 202 35.4
Barry Bonds (2) 198 34.7
Lee Smith (12) 171 29.9
Curt Schilling (2) 167 29.2
Edgar Martinez (5) 144 25.2
Alan Trammell (13) 119 20.8
Mike Mussina (1) 116 20.3
Jeff Kent (1) 87 15.2
Fred McGriff (8) 67 11.7
Mark McGwire (8) 63 11.0
Larry Walker (4) 58 10.2
Don Mattingly (14) 47 8.2
Sammy Sosa (2) 41 7.2
Rafael Palmeiro (4) 25 4.4
Moises Alou (1) 6 1.1
Hideo Nomo (1) 6 1.1
Luis Gonzalez (1) 5 0.9
Eric Gagne (1) 2 0.4
J.T. Snow (1) 2 0.4
Armando Benitez (1) 1 0.2
Jacque Jones (1) 1 0.2
Kenny Rogers (1) 1 0.2
Sean Casey (1) 0 0.0
Ray Durham (1) 0 0.0
Todd Jones (1) 0 0.0
Paul Lo Duca (1) 0 0.0
Richie Sexson (1) 0 0.0
Mike Timlin (1) 0 0.0
__________________

earlywynnfan 01-08-2014 03:37 PM

So if Mussina didn't come close, what do you guys think of Pettite's chances?

Forever Young 01-08-2014 04:01 PM

So... how do people get nominated?? Like.... these guys.......

Moises Alou (1) 6 1.1
Hideo Nomo (1) 6 1.1
Luis Gonzalez (1) 5 0.9
Eric Gagne (1) 2 0.4
J.T. Snow (1) 2 0.4
Armando Benitez (1) 1 0.2
Jacque Jones (1) 1 0.2
Kenny Rogers (1) 1 0.2
Sean Casey (1) 0 0.0
Ray Durham (1) 0 0.0
Todd Jones (1) 0 0.0
Paul Lo Duca (1) 0 0.0
Richie Sexson (1) 0 0.0
Mike Timlin (1) 0 0.0

Scott Garner 01-08-2014 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever Young (Post 1225315)
So... how do people get nominated?? Like.... these guys.......

Moises Alou (1) 6 1.1
Hideo Nomo (1) 6 1.1
Luis Gonzalez (1) 5 0.9
Eric Gagne (1) 2 0.4
J.T. Snow (1) 2 0.4
Armando Benitez (1) 1 0.2
Jacque Jones (1) 1 0.2
Kenny Rogers (1) 1 0.2
Sean Casey (1) 0 0.0
Ray Durham (1) 0 0.0
Todd Jones (1) 0 0.0
Paul Lo Duca (1) 0 0.0
Richie Sexson (1) 0 0.0
Mike Timlin (1) 0 0.0

Great question, Ben. :rolleyes:

earlywynnfan 01-08-2014 04:24 PM

I believe they take anyone who meets the criteria, which would be what, not on the banned list and played at least 8 seasons.

almostdone 01-08-2014 04:57 PM

The criteria to be on the HOFERS ballot is to have played for at least ten complete seasons and be retired for at least five full seasons along with not being on the banned list. If a person receives at least 5% of the votes cast they will roll over to the next years ballot. If not they are taken off the ballot. 75% is the minimum needed to gain entrance into the hall of fame.
Drew

Jim65 01-08-2014 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan (Post 1225293)
So if Mussina didn't come close, what do you guys think of Pettite's chances?

I think Pettitte is on the fence, he did admit taking a PED.


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