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kdixon 08-03-2013 09:49 AM

August Pick Ups
 
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Picked up this Postal First day cover. Its not much but it was cheap.

repsher 08-03-2013 03:35 PM

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Here are a couple of original photos I picked up:

Herb Pennock from 1923 (Underwood and Underwood)

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Herb Pennock and Yankees owner Jacob Ruppert from 1927 (Wide World)

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And here is what I believe is a George Burke/Brace negative of Bill Lee (1934). I was able to pick it up cheaply ($10), because I was able to recognize what it was from what I've learned from Lance about Burke/Brace negs. Thanks Lance.

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thecatspajamas 08-03-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by repsher (Post 1166218)
And here is what I believe is a George Burke/Brace negative of Bill Lee (1934). I was able to pick it up cheaply ($10), because I was able to recognize what it was from what I've learned from Lance about Burke/Brace negs. Thanks Lance.

:)
You're welcome, and correct. Nice snag! Mind PMing me where you picked it up? (simple curiosity, assuming it was the only one and/or you're done shopping)

D. Broughman 08-05-2013 01:12 PM

Stroh's beer sign
 
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Any idea of year for this Detroit Tigers Stroh's sign? It is 12"x11" thanks D.

yanks12025 08-05-2013 02:25 PM

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Jimmie foxx pro model/index bat from late 1940's, johnny bench 1976 bat turned into a lamp and a 1976 Carlos may road jersey.

lefty147 08-05-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by D. Broughman (Post 1166946)
Any idea of year for this Detroit Tigers Stroh's sign? It is 12"x11" thanks D.

Has a 1960's look to me. Mike

Rob D. 08-05-2013 06:58 PM

Stroh's = A headache in every bottle (or so we said in high school).

Nice sign.

HRBAKER 08-05-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob D. (Post 1167102)
Stroh's = A headache in every bottle (or so we said in high school).

Nice sign.

Rob,

I had you for a Genessee or Hudepohl man!

Rob D. 08-05-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1167106)
Rob,

I had you for a Genessee or Hudepohl man!

Well, you're pretty spot-on. My season in rookie ball was spent largely in Paintsville, Ky., which was in a dry county. We had to drive about 30 minutes to the nearest carry-out in neighboring Pikeville County (if I remember correctly). My first trip I bought three cases of Hudepohl, in long-neck bottles.

My roommates, two from the West Coast and one from Chicago, looked at me like I was crazy.

ruth-gehrig 08-06-2013 07:12 PM

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Love this bat! Tapered barrel so I'm guessing 1870s? Looks like barrel end has a very faded painted ring around it. Measures 36 inches long and 43 ounces!

Runscott 08-07-2013 11:59 AM

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sports-rings 08-08-2013 05:05 AM

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I picked this up at the National...

sports-rings 08-08-2013 05:11 AM

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Picked up this 1958 Colts championship ring from the Player's widow. It's a 1958 - a Historic Championship Game that launched the popularity of the NFL.

I also picked up a player Ravens super bowl ring. Shame the player had to sell it.

The pictures are not to scale, the newer ring is 3x the size of the '58 Colts ring.

mjkm90 08-08-2013 05:12 AM

Epic trophy Mike:eek:

perezfan 08-08-2013 01:06 PM

Ditto...

I saw the dealer diligently polishing it up on Thursday. Knew it wouldn't sit for long... Congrats on landing a real beauty!

vintagesportflips 08-08-2013 01:36 PM

Eagles plaque
 
Killer Spalding Trophy!
I just added this piece for my Eagles collection.
Technigraph plaques aren't that uncommon, but this is the first I've encountered an Eagles one in its it original packaging with its shrinkwrap.
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps5a79d4d9.jpg

kdixon 08-08-2013 05:46 PM

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Love the trophy. Picked up this piece the Royals gave to season ticket holders last year. Has the three patches from the 3 KC All Star games. May frame it up with my press pins from the three games.

bobfreedman 08-08-2013 07:19 PM

Trophy
 
Mike, you bought that about 15 minutes before I was going to make the guy an offer. I went to his both and he quoted me a price but I had to run off for about 30 minutes. When I returned it was gone. I absolutely love this piece and you have a keeper. Congrats! If you ever want to sell it....

71buc 08-08-2013 08:12 PM

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There have been some very impressive pick ups this month. I couldn't make the national but will be in Cleveland next year. August has been slow for me so far I have made two minor additions to my original news photo collection. The First is of Frank Robinson in his rookie season of 1956 and the second was Waite Hoyt in 1931.

GaryPassamonte 08-09-2013 05:35 AM

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National pick-ups.

repsher 08-09-2013 07:41 AM

Great stuff guys.

Mike - I had a bid on that Robinson photo. It's a nice one. Did you cleanup that Hoyt photo or was that done before you purchased it?

Ryan

71buc 08-09-2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by repsher (Post 1168816)
Great stuff guys.

Mike - I had a bid on that Robinson photo. It's a nice one. Did you cleanup that Hoyt photo or was that done before you purchased it?

Ryan

I cleaned it up as it was covered in editorial ink.

Exhibitman 08-09-2013 01:08 PM

I thought this was interesting so I picked it up in CHI:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...s%20Clowns.jpg

My guess is 1954 since the only Wednesday July 21 in the 1950s was 1954.

Also got these two items that I can't ID:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...20pin%20up.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...er%20photo.jpg

Kiner is about 3 x 4; Mack is about 8 x 10

Also these Gabby Hartnett snapshots:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...0photo%201.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...0photo%202.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...0photo%203.jpg

Duluth Eskimo 08-09-2013 03:29 PM

That Connie Mack was used as an inside cover shot for Baseball Magazine, but I cannot remember what month / year.

Runscott 08-09-2013 03:39 PM

It might be in more than one issue - I have it in a photo gallery in a BaseBall Magazine (not the inside cover). I believe it was 1910 or 1911.

Runscott 08-10-2013 08:46 PM

This just arrived. The early catchers gloves were sold in pairs - the catcher in this photo has a glove on his right hand (placed over heart) and his left-hand glove is resting on his right knee.

Forever Young 08-10-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1169487)
This just arrived. The early catchers gloves were sold in pairs - the catcher in this photo has a glove on his right hand (placed over heart) and his left-hand glove is resting on his right knee.

awesome

deebro041 08-11-2013 06:27 PM

Very nice photo Scott!! Is that a mask on the catcher's knee?

Runscott 08-11-2013 07:45 PM

Thanks Ben and Dan. Yes, that's a catcher's mask. I collect early catcher's mask photos, so this was a good find.

Forever Young 08-11-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1169849)
Thanks Ben and Dan. Yes, that's a catcher's mask. I collect early catcher's mask photos, so this was a good find.

Scott... you like the Friday the 13th movies don't you? chchchchchch hahahahahaha.

Runscott 08-11-2013 08:29 PM

I like 'catcher gear' photos because the catcher looks different from everyone else in the early photos. I was always intrigued by how that position (and 'look') evolved over the years. It was sad to me when guys like Johnny Bench had to finish out their careers at first base because of the toll catching had taken. But that pales in comparison to what the gloveless guys went through in the 1800's. It's hard not to have extra respect for the early catchers.

I would probably collect the gear itself, but I don't have the cash or the room.

Forever Young 08-11-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1169872)
I like 'catcher gear' photos because the catcher looks different from everyone else in the early photos. I was always intrigued by how that position (and 'look') evolved over the years. It was sad to me when guys like Johnny Bench had to finish out their careers at first base because of the toll catching had taken. But that pales in comparison to what the gloveless guys went through in the 1800's. It's hard not to have extra respect for the early catchers.

I would probably collect the gear itself, but I don't have the cash or the room.

Gotcha. Old gear would be cool.

repsher 08-12-2013 12:51 PM

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Picked some photos up:

Frank Frisch 6/18/37 - Wide World

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Frisch and Mickey Cochrane shaking hands before the 1934 W.S.. This shot is extra cool for me because I picked up the negative , on the right, a couple of years ago. It's not the same shot but was taken at the same time.

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This one is Burleigh Grimes. It was sold to me as "unknown baseball player". There is no stamping or writting on the back.

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stone193 08-12-2013 08:24 PM

Autographs - A Card Game of Famous People - The Leister Game Co. - Toledo, OH - 1945
 
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...g?t=1375312975

I've been waiting for this game for some time. It usually goes for way more than I usually budget - usually in the 400 or more range. This one went for $201 - a good price IMO. The cards have been used but in very nice shape and the box is Vg-Ex.

It's has 52 game cards with 3 additional cards and an instruction booklet.

The cards measure about 2.5 X 3.5 inches.

I include this game in my collection - though it's not a "baseball" game as such but encompasses sports figures - most notably to many "the Babe" - and also includes American pop culture icons like FDR, Eisenhower and numerous movie heavy hitters like Clark Gable and Gary Cooper.

I also found that the total - 55 card - set is on the Registry.

Each card includes a black and white photo of the card's main subject at the top left - and is paired with an illustration of a related subject at the bottom right. E.g. if there's a Gable photo and a Cooper illustration - then there's a paired Cooper photo and Gable illustration card.

Also, there's a card of Sgt. Edwin A. Rowlands - the world's foremost autograph collector at the time. The card mentions he has a collection numbering over 3,000 pieces insured for 12K - a righteous amount for that time. He was also instrumental in helping Leister to get this game off the ground and into production.

The Checklist:

1- Grace Moore
1 - Lily Pons
1A - H.V. Kaltenborn
1A - Lowell Thomas
2 - Jack Dempsey
2 - Joe Louis
2A - John C. Thomas
2A - Lauritz Melchoir
3 - Kate Smith
3 - Dinah Shore
3A - Clark Gable
3A - Gary Cooper
4 - Bob Hope
4 - Jack Benny
4A - Frank Sinatra
4A - Bing Crosby
5 - Claudette Colbert
5 - Dorothy Lamour
5A - Irving Berlin
5A - Jerome Kern
6 - Arturo Toscanini
6 - Walter Damrosch
6A - Paul Whiteman
6A - Kay Kyser
7 - Byron Nelson
7 - Walter Hagen
7A - Bernie Bierman
7A - Knute Rockne
8 - Irvin S. Cobb
8 - Robert Benchley
8A - Franklin D. Roosevelt
8A - Thomas E. Dewey
9 - Douglas MacArthur
9 - Dwight David Eisenhower
9A - Babe Ruth
9A - Joe DiMaggio
10 - Red Grange
10 - Tom Harmon
10A - Don Budge
10A - Bill Tilden
11 - Fanny Brice
11 - Joan Davis
11A - Katharine Cornell
11A - Helen Hayes
12 - Ernie Pyle
12 - Westbrook Pegler
12A - William Green
12A - John L. Lewis
13 - Ted Husing
13 - Bill Stern
13A - Roy Rogers
13A - Gene Autry

I haven't gone over the instructions yet - but the game is "four" games in one and thus, each card is filled with a good deal of information for playing the various games.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...g?t=1375313742

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...g?t=1375313678

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...g?t=1375313454

bobfreedman 08-12-2013 09:12 PM

Grimes
 
Love the Grimes photo!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by repsher (Post 1170046)

This one is Burleigh Grimes. It was sold to me as "unknown baseball player". There is no stamping or writting on the back.


Runscott 08-13-2013 09:54 AM

Early 1900's 'in action' Cyanotype of students playing baseball at Yale

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Circa-1880-Ya...clQ~~60_57.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Circa-1880-Ya...Pk!~~60_57.JPG

Lordstan 08-13-2013 11:30 AM

my newest
 
1937 Cuban magazine with Gehrig on the cover. There are about 4 articles inside about the Yankees and Giant World Series matchup. Of the 4, three are about individual players. One each for Gehrig, Joe D, and Mel Ott.

It's in pretty nice shape, considering it survived how many hurricanes/tropical storms over the years in the Caribbean.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...anMagazine.jpg

39special 08-13-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1170443)
1937 Cuban magazine with Gehrig on the cover. There are about 4 articles inside about the Yankees and Giant World Series matchup. Of the 4, three are about individual players. One each for Gehrig, Joe D, and Mel Ott.

It's in pretty nice shape, considering it survived how many hurricanes/tropical storms over the years in the Caribbean.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...anMagazine.jpg

Nice pickup Mark!

thecatspajamas 08-13-2013 02:16 PM

Very neat photo, Scott. I wonder where the name cyanotype for that type of photo came from...? ;)

Runscott 08-13-2013 03:21 PM

I don't know - seems like they would have called it a 'blueotype' :eek:

gnaz01 08-16-2013 11:19 AM

Picked up these 2 :)
 
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Matty Type 1 photo from 1909 and Darktown Battery Bank (in full working order) :D

Scott Garner 08-16-2013 11:22 AM

Beautiful pickups, Greg! I love the Matty!

khkco4bls 08-16-2013 05:40 PM

Greg love the bank. Had a chance at one years ago. 1800 in great shape .just didn't have the jingle at that time..

perezfan 08-16-2013 07:55 PM

Luv the Bank :D

gnaz01 08-17-2013 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1172066)
luv the bank :d

lol :)

JoeyF1981 08-20-2013 06:00 PM

Picked up this 1947 babe ruth original photo. Story behind this photo is the 13yr old boy in the photo who belonged to a orphanage won a essay contest to meet Babe Ruth for a day. In the picture he's wearing babe's game used glove while Ruth is signing a autograph for him. That had to be a hell of a experience. Oh and I didnt pay anywhere near $200 for it which was nice also. :)



http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...pse3c22cb7.jpg

GaryPassamonte 08-21-2013 05:34 AM

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Circa 1875 South Bend

JeremyW 08-21-2013 01:38 PM

Gary- Great cdv. It looks like one of the players couldn't make it for picture day? I try to get up to South Bend at least once a year for some college football. I just noticed, maybe the missing player is the shy guy hiding in the background?

GaryPassamonte 08-21-2013 02:26 PM

That's the best hypothesis I've heard so far, Jeremy.

ksfarmboy 08-21-2013 07:17 PM

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Added a couple of Kansas minor league items. Topeka Reds program. They were coached by Johnny Vander Meer. Next is a Wichita Aeros jersey from the 1975-76 time frame and could have been used into the 1980 season.

Scott Garner 08-24-2013 06:24 PM

August pickups
 
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Vandy, Babe and Paul Derringer Type 1 (?) photo prior to Vandy's 2nd consecutive no hitter.

Slug on back gives the detail...

thecatspajamas 08-24-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1175194)
Vandy, Babe and Paul Derringer Type 1 photo prior to Vandy's 2nd consecutive no hitter.

Slug on back gives the detail...

Nice addition having the slug to give the details on the back! It's weird how much the lighting can change the look from one photo to another. I went back and looked at the one you picked up from me a while back, and did a double-take b/c it looked like Vandy was wearing a different jacket. I think it just looks a lot darker in your newer shot because of the shadows/lighting. Must have really set the mood, as I can also see Vandy has slipped his hand over on ol' Babe's knee by the time your newer photo was taken...

Scott Garner 08-24-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thecatspajamas (Post 1175206)
Nice addition having the slug to give the details on the back! It's weird how much the lighting can change the look from one photo to another. I went back and looked at the one you picked up from me a while back, and did a double-take b/c it looked like Vandy was wearing a different jacket. I think it just looks a lot darker in your newer shot because of the shadows/lighting. Must have really set the mood, as I can also see Vandy has slipped his hand over on ol' Babe's knee by the time your newer photo was taken...

Lance,
He absolutely IS wearing a different jacket. To facilitate the photo shoot, for whatever reason, they had him change his jacket. Weird!

thecatspajamas 08-24-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1175211)
Lance,
He absolutely IS wearing a different jacket. To facilitate the photo shoot, for whatever reason, they had him change his jacket. Weird!

Are you sure? Because the buttons on the right side of the jacket are the same shape and in the exact same place and position in both. I also noticed that the bill and logo on their caps look almost black in your newer photo, but are clearly a different color in the one you got from me before.

Weird either way, but now I'm curious to see what you think after comparing them side-by-side.

Scott Garner 08-24-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thecatspajamas (Post 1175217)
Are you sure? Because the buttons on the right side of the jacket are the same shape and in the exact same place and position in both. I also noticed that the bill and logo on their caps look almost black in your newer photo, but are clearly a different color in the one you got from me before.

Weird either way, but now I'm curious to see what you think after comparing them side-by-side.

Lance,
Hmm...You know what, I believe that you are correct now that I've looked closely.
I have looked at these two images before and wondered about them and why...

I wonder what in the photographic process would make them look like this? Maybe you are right about the lighting.
Do you think the shot that includes Paul Derringer has been altered so as to create this look? I guess I might know more once I have it in hand...

Scott Garner 08-24-2013 07:21 PM

BTW Lance, Vandy idolized Babe when he was growing up. Additionally, he was a huge fan of Carl Hubbell (also a pretty fair lefty hurler I've heard... ;)) and the NY Giants.
Vandy grew up in Midland Park, NJ, just up the road from the NY Giants...

thecatspajamas 08-24-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1175223)
Lance,
You know what, I believe that you are correct now that I've looked closely.
I have looked at these two images before and wondered about them and why...

I wonder what in the photographic process would make them look like this. Do you think the shot that includes Paul Derringer has been altered so as to create this look? I guess I might know more once I have it in hand...

Only thing I can think of is the lighting source each photographer relied on for his shot. Perhaps that's the difference between having a good flash, and relying on ambient light? There are probably other more-technical aspects that I'm not familiar with that can affect it as well, but in the one you got from me, it looks like a flashbomb just went off, providing enough light that you can see it reflected from the paint on the back of the dugout.

Scott Garner 08-24-2013 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas (Post 1175231)
Only thing I can think of is the lighting source each photographer relied on for his shot. Perhaps that's the difference between having a good flash, and relying on ambient light? There are probably other more-technical aspects that I'm not familiar with that can affect it as well, but in the one you got from me, it looks like a flashbomb just went off, providing enough light that you can see it reflected from the paint on the back of the dugout.

I said it before, but the lighting in the photo that you sold me was like cracking The Davinci Code as far as revealing where the dugout was in my Kreindler painting...

I'm glad that your Vandy/Babe photo answered the riddle that Graig and I puzzled over...

thecatspajamas 08-24-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1175234)
I said it before, but the lighting in the photo that you sold to me was like The Davinci Code in cracking the mystery of where my dugout was in my Kreindler painting...

I'm glad that your Vandy/Babe photo answered the riddle that Graig and I puzzled over...

I'm just glad that it found a good new home. That it helped to solve the mystery made it all the more satisfying. All deals should have such a happy ending :D

Lordstan 08-24-2013 09:24 PM

Great pics Scott.
I wonder if the top one could be a copy of an original print. There seems to be so much less detail in the top one as compared to the bottom one of Vandy and Ruth. Notice the bat the Derringer is holding in the top photo. Ruth is holding it in the second. The printing of the band is sharper in the second picture, but the overall color is pretty much the same. Could the first be from a copy negative where the photographer did something to the print to make the jackets and hats not be able to show the logos?

Butch7999 08-25-2013 12:13 AM

FWIW:
A) the wrinkles/folds in Vandermeer's jacket look (to us) almost identical in both photos.
B) Some black-&-white film will see red as black, and blue (even dark blue) as grey.
C) Cincinnati wore blue caps with red peaks in 1938.

The Reds caps both Vandy and the Babe are wearing in the pic with Derringer look grey with black peaks in our browser.
The caps look black with light-colored peaks in the two-shot,
and Vandy's jacket in that pic looks to have a black front and light sleeves, which would mean the front is blue and the sleeves red.
Which would account for the all-black look of the jacket in the three-shot.

Our best guess: one photographer was using better-quality film.

Scott Garner 08-25-2013 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butch7999 (Post 1175332)
FWIW:
A) the wrinkles/folds in Vandermeer's jacket look (to us) almost identical in both photos.
B) Some black-&-white film will see red as black, and blue (even dark blue) as grey.
C) Cincinnati wore blue caps with red peaks in 1938.

The Reds caps both Vandy and the Babe are wearing in the pic with Derringer look grey with black peaks in our browser.
The caps look black with light-colored peaks in the two-shot,
and Vandy's jacket in that pic looks to have a black front and light sleeves, which would mean the front is blue and the sleeves red.
Which would account for the all-black look of the jacket in the three-shot.

Our best guess: one photographer was using better-quality film.

Butch,
Excellent detective work! I appreciate your input. :)

Scott Garner 08-25-2013 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1175291)
Great pics Scott.
I wonder if the top one could be a copy of an original print. There seems to be so much less detail in the top one as compared to the bottom one of Vandy and Ruth. Notice the bat the Derringer is holding in the top photo. Ruth is holding it in the second. The printing of the band is sharper in the second picture, but the overall color is pretty much the same. Could the first be from a copy negative where the photographer did something to the print to make the jackets and hats not be able to show the logos?

Mark,
IDK, but you are certainly correct that the clarity is much better in the second photo that features Vandy and Babe only. Lance called this photo a Type II as I recall...

The photo that I just bought (Vandy, Babe, Derringer) is supposedly a Type I and the slug indicates that it is from 1938. I'll know more when it's in hand. I really like the image regardless....

repsher 08-25-2013 05:47 AM

It could also be that the photo was poorly scanned. Those photos are great. He certainly looks like a boy meeting his idol.

Runscott 08-25-2013 08:42 AM

Couldn't it be that someone touched up the negative in the darker one? Even Babe Ruth's cap appears to have been 'darkened' substantially - doesn't look like something that either lighting or different file would cause.

Maybe David (Cycleback) has some ideas?

repsher 08-25-2013 11:57 AM

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Here are some photos I picked up on the cheap($10) from the John Rogers SN collection.

This Rube Marquard is what I believe is a type II Conlon. Taken ~1910 but developed later.

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Hank Gowdy's head. This is also a Conlon photo but since it's pasted to a board I'm unsure which type it is.

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Gabby Harnett from 1930.

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Joe DiMaggio from 1940

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repsher 08-25-2013 12:29 PM

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Here are some negatives I recently picked up:

Schoolboy Rowe's grip on the ball in spring 1935:

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A young Frank Robinson.

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And a young Lou Pinella


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Lordstan 08-25-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repsher (Post 1175505)
Here are some negatives I recently picked up:

Schoolboy Rowe's grip on the ball in spring 1935:

Attachment 111498

Ryan,
Love the Rowe.
Would make a great Kreindler painting!
Mark

Runscott 08-25-2013 05:13 PM

A Few Bats
 
Picked up four bats the other day: 1930's 34" "Atlanta Cracker", 36" hand-lathed flat-end ash, 34" Louisville Slugger 125 (can't read signature, if any), Louisville Slugger 'Edd Roush'.

Here's the label of the 'Atlanta Cracker', 34", no damage other than worn label and some marks. Also, the hand-turned one.

Runscott 08-25-2013 05:17 PM

Louisville Slugger 'Edd Roush'
 
Here's 'before' pics of the Roush '40 ER'. It was very dry and splotchy with separated dead wood and some reddish-brown stains that wouldn't come off with thinner or stripper - all the dark areas in the photos were even more pronounced. It looked like someone had tried to remove the varnish, or it had been left in water - you can see a wiggly line on the bottom pic that looks like what worms do to driftwood. Some will shoot me for this, but the bat was 'all there', but unsightly, so I made a project out of it, and I expect it to be quite a looker when done.
  1. injected wood glue beneath separated pieces and clamped - you can see where the 'Edd J Roush' signature is almost totally lifted from the wood - it is now flush and looks very nice.
  2. removed as much of the dark splotches as possible, using thinner, then stripper
  3. removed a bit more using 220 sandpaper
  4. stained with 'red oak', guessing that was close to the original color
  5. it's now drying. I'll add a light coat of bullseye French polish tomorrow and post pics

Lordstan 08-25-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1175340)
Mark,
IDK, but you are certainly correct that the clarity is much better in the second photo that features Vandy and Babe only. Lance called this photo a Type II as I recall...

The photo that I just bought (Vandy, Babe, Derringer) is supposedly a Type I and the slug indicates that it is from 1938. I'll know more when it's in hand. I really like the image regardless....

No doubt it's a great image of a boy and his hero.

Lordstan 08-25-2013 05:36 PM

My newest Lou pic. Direct from Curt(Thanks)

1934 in action with Oscar Melillo.

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Scott Garner 08-25-2013 06:03 PM

Lou pulled his foot. Safe!! :D
Nice action photo, Mark.

bcbgcbrcb 08-25-2013 06:22 PM

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I haven't posted much lately but here is my most recent pick-up from earlier this month. Frank Robinson in center of photo from his professional baseball debut season of 1953 with Class A Ogden.............

Lordstan 08-25-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1175642)
Lou pulled his foot. Safe!! :D
Nice action photo, Mark.

Same ump worked Galaragga's game. :D

Mark 08-25-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1175616)
Picked up four bats the other day: 1930's 34" "Atlanta Cracker", 36" hand-lathed flat-end ash, 34" Louisville Slugger 125 (can't read signature, if any), Louisville Slugger 'Edd Roush'.

Here's the label of the 'Atlanta Cracker', 34", no damage other than worn label and some marks. Also, the hand-turned one.

Beautiful job. It seems to me that you saved a fine bat. Any chance that you happened to measure how much weight was added via restoration?

Runscott 08-25-2013 09:59 PM

Thanks Mark, all the pics I posted are 'before' pics - all the dark spots were even darker and more dramatic, but are now less pronounced since I worked on it.

I wiped a darker stain over it this afternoon, and hoping it's ready for a small amount of French polish tomorrow - it already looks much better than before. As far as weight added, it would be negligible - just some glue, stain and Watco Danish oil that probably account for the weight lost due to the wood drying up.

RCMcKenzie 08-25-2013 10:30 PM

T36 Ralph De Palma and later photo
 
Found this photo to go with the T36 De Palma card...

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h2oya311 08-26-2013 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb (Post 1175654)
I haven't posted much lately but here is my most recent pick-up from earlier this month. Frank Robinson in center of photo from his professional baseball debut season of 1953 with Class A Ogden.............

Nice pick-up Phil!! I saw that in the Hakes "Own it now" section...was gonna let the dust settle w/ our large trx before pulling the trigger! Glad to see it went to a good home!!

thecatspajamas 08-26-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Butch7999 (Post 1175332)
B) Some black-&-white film will see red as black, and blue (even dark blue) as grey.

Well that explains a few things, both here and with other confusing b/w images I have seen. Thank you VERY much for that added insight. This tidbit made it onto a sticky note on my "wall of reference" :)

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1175340)
Mark,
IDK, but you are certainly correct that the clarity is much better in the second photo that features Vandy and Babe only. Lance called this photo a Type II as I recall...

The photo that I just bought (Vandy, Babe, Derringer) is supposedly a Type I and the slug indicates that it is from 1938. I'll know more when it's in hand. I really like the image regardless....

Type I vs. Type II shouldn't necessarily speak to image quality, as both are necessarily printed from the original negative. The one I sold is a Type II because it was printed some 20 years after the event, when UPI re-issued a slew of images following the merger of United Press and International News in 1958. It was still printed from the original negative, so the image quality should be identical to a Type I, but being that the print was produced well after the original event, it doesn't qualify as a Type I.

Your more recent acquisition, although a Type I produced in the period, appears to have been shot by a less-skilled photographer or, as Butch noted, one using lesser-quality film and equipment (or both). Looks like there must have been a number of photographers popping off shots of Vandy's meeting with Babe!


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