Notes from the National
 

Cloudy day in Chicago but everyone's excited about the sneak preview in an hour. They just announced that the pre-show ticket sales was fantastic and they look for a huge crowd this year, much bigger than the past few years. We shall see.....
The food in the VIP loung was awful but was free. Lots and lots of shiny card collectors packed the place. Didn't spot any familiar pre war faces but a lot of them are either setting up inside or waiting for 3:30 to hit the sneak preview.
The past few years there were a lot of the same cards I've seen in eBay with the same tired BIN prices but maybe this year the prices will be more reasonable. We can always hope ......

Keep the reports coming! Love hearing whats going on.

+1

It's like being there! I can almost smell the dealers! :D:D:D

all my friends....
 

I have gotten a few reports .......sounds so exciting! can almost smell the printer's scrap....I think I need help:o:)!

The ones wearing deodorant or the ones without? :)

Maybe
 

Maybe this is the year that some of the dealers actually make eye contact with their customers in between mouthfuls of food. :(

Sorry, I'm just PO'd that I'm not there.

Rick

Now there's an image that will haunt me for years to come!

One Positive...
 

From not being at the National my knees are saved from those unforgiving concrete floors!

National
 

I got an email yesterday from Mile High Auctions advertising their Fall Auction, and will be having some of the cards graded at the National.

High-grade Collins McCarthy complete set, Sporting News complete set, M110 complete set. Pretty impressive.

Leland's is selling a PSA 2 T206 Wagner.

Sounds like there will be quite a display of big $$ items.

Wish I was there.

Tony

Let me know when there is a Chris Browne siting!

He's my brother!!!

Craig

tell us more about this mile high auction house.

Can't wait until Saturday. Looking to add a couple of T201's to my set!

wouldn't an AXE deodorant booth just clean up in sales there?

The people who need deodorant don't buy deodorant.

Geekness.

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Chris Browne is the man.
 

Just sayin'.

suprisingly enough, i was shocked. i figured i would have seen way more of a selection.

kevin

Jumping in the car at 4 AM tomorrow and heading that way. Can't wait.

That's what I thought when I was all done. If you're looking to build a 50s/60s set or into t206s you had all you could handle. I found very little within my collecting interest versus Baltimore where everywhere I looked there was something for me. I only made 1 purchase and finished in a record 2 1/2 hours.

i only do t206. my comment was about that. there were tons of low grade raw cards. i was expecting all of the untouchables and slabbed 5+'s.

there was one guy there that had a ton of 5s, 707 sportscards which had a boat load of stuff under a 5. a handfull of guys with only a handfull of rare backs. a couple of guys with some 8s that wanted triple or quadruple the price of what they were worth.

and like 2 or 3 guys that had what i needed and were reasonable with their final prices. the rest was mid range 50s, 60s and 70s or like 5000 count boxes of cheap/garbage autographs. boy that market is over populated now. talk about devaluing the autograph market to basically worthless. you could grab just about any auto for 5 bucks or under.

kevin

The National...
 

Is pretty neat to experience, but does nothing for those who don't collect T-cards, 50's sets and some type/oddities cards. Otherwise, some of these cards are just unreal, wish I found more for my focus, but was nice to see some of the cards I'm going to win in the Huggins auction :)

Anyone else drooling over that Novelty Cutlery Cobby? Man, oh man....

I have never been to a National, but from what I hear, I imagine it to be like a museum....you go and see a bunch of stuff you could never afford and then find yourself in the gift shop buying a bunch of crap just so you can say you didn't go home empty handed.

Had no clue who he was
 

but I met someone named Chris Browne yesterday, is that our man? :D

Anyone see a E103 Wagner?
If so, can you please post a pic & who the seller is (contact #/email)
Thanks

I'm sort of a big deal around here ;)

So far my favorite part of the show is meeting so many nice collectors from here.

A lot of museum quality pieces, but also a ton of affordable extremely cool pieces as well. It's an insanely large card show lol

Anyone saw any dealer at the Nats who have a graded 4 or 5 goudey lajoie for sale ?
thanks

I pretty much came out empty handed thanks to a LOT of dealers who can't be bothered to put price tags on their cards or handle more then one customer at a time. Whats even better is when you ask a price and they spend 10 mins "looking it up" and then are annoyed that your turning down their overpriced cards. I thought putting prices on cards was something that was established years ago as basic protocol to get people to BUY your cards?

Holy smokes, if only I could figure out how to attach a photo from my (android) phone...Ken Kendrick has a bunch of his cards on display at the Memory Lane booth, including the T206 Plank (psa 8), Young portrait and Cobb bat off, both psa 9, and a psa 10 '52 Topps Mantle.

People seem very upbeat today...and since it's only Friday, the dealers don't smell that bad yet. Wait until Sunday. :D

Prices are show prices...not marked and the initial quote is really high to anchor people...frustrating to say the least.

Have a good one,
Steve

Yep, most I've talked with are complete a-holes. I'm looking for high grade or high dollar cards, and they pretty much write me off or don't spend two seconds with me to barter because I'm just a kid

Does anyone have any photos of the Cambridge find? I'd love to see that.

Had the same experience last year. What was most shocking to me was that I spent a few grand with two different dealers, and neither one of them asked me for any contact information. Terrible business sense.

Brent, there are some good guys out there but you are right, many cannot be bothered with people. I was there yesterday and honestly I got so ticked off at some of the dealers that I let it ruin the experience for me. This is my 12th National and I think the dealers have gotten worse. My faith was restored when I when I visited a booth to add some nice '72's to my set and the deal (LJ Sands or JL Sands...cannot remember which) could not be nicer and gave me a great deal on the cards I pulled. It is because of him that I am going back tomorrow and spending more money with him alone. Don't let those a-hole dealers ruin the experience for you. There are good ones out there.

Well said, I have met more great dealers than bad and were very fun in speaking with.

the whole price tag thing is a puzzler to me too. If I see in a case that prices are high Im not going to ask to look at them. These dealers now have to:
A. open the case
B. Worry I dont steal cards
C. "Figure out" what they want
D. Put them back because they are over prices
E. Do all the above about 500 times a day

BTW the #1 culprit I saw doing this had his workers referring to him as MISTER.

Mint?

Can someone explain, Why a dealer wouldn't have prices on his cards? If they were priced with what he wanted. They would just have to say "yes" and take the money or"no". Seems easy as pie. Am I missing something? Dave.

Laziness. It might take a little work on the dealer's part.

haha no but your PROB close ;)

well. in stores, people swap price tags on cheaper items to more expensive items. people also make mistakes.

if you handle a large inventory it would be impossible for you to ensure that each item has not been tampered with and that you have done everything flawless on all of your items.

you gotta look it up anyway to make sure you are not making a mistake, before you actually buy a card or part with the card.

kevin

I hate the priceless cards too. It's ridiculous. If there's a dealer on the board who refuses to list prices on their cards, I would love to hear the reasoning.

Day 3 and the old legs are getting sore from traipsing around the floor for so many hours each day. One of the hazards of being an "older collector" I guess. To me, the best part of coming to the National is the chance to re-kindle old friendships, meet guys in person who you otherwise only meet through emails, 54 posts or in bidding against them. Meeting new collectors and swapping stories is what I enjoy most. There are pre-war cards here and some dealers will come off their prices if you ask in a cordial and friendly way what the best price they can offer will be. Net 54 dealers, of course, are most receptive to offering deals. I was able to score some nice T210s from series 5,6 and 7 from Ted Z and enjoyed talking cards with Mr. PCL, Mark Macrae who has forgotten more about Zeenuts and West Coast minor league sets than anyone of us will ever know. Every time I talk to Mark I come away with more knowledge of Zeenuts and D310s and D311s and their history in the hobby. No visit to the National is complete with stopping at Leon, Scott B. and Richard M's table. Gary Nucherino and Ed Hans' table is also always a treat, not only for the cards but also for their friendship and kindness.
I met some collectors and dealers for the first time like Al C from Legends of the Fame and guys who I feel I know from the Board and eBay like Bruce Babcock who was always "uffda" to me. There are guys who seemed to have disappeared like Rob Adesso who I was glad to see again and the same old cast of characters who are always so much fun to hang with like Bill C, Robert S, Zach R, Tim N, Mike P, Lyman H, Adam W, Jim B and many more who I apologize for not naming. To me, this is what makes the hobby great.
As far as cards, not many E94s, 97s or 98s. Saw some 95s and 96s, more of the 95s. One dealer had a group of E99s and 100s but he had the 2010 price tags back when they were strong, not the softer nowadays prices. I managed to pick up a lot of T210s from East Coast cards, graded and raw, decent prices. William Chapelle sold me a T213 Matty that was slabbed and gorgeous at a good price. The albatross I chased for 6 years, the rare and elusive red background E98 Lajoie I picked up on eBay thanks to the help of some 54 members who let me know out of kindness, now rests in an SGC holder and looks beautiful. SGC customer service was far superior to PSA, as usual. PSA had more customers but that was no excuse for the boorish attitude of their employers toward collectors who patiently waited in line only to see others waited on first, etc.
The 54 Dinner and Drinks is tonight and I hope to see other 54ers there like David McDonald, Tom Boblitt and others who are here but I keep missing. I did meet a lot of members for the first time like Bubba and Frank Burkett. All in all it's been a great time....

If these are excuses for cards not being priced, then they are absurd. First, shows are not stores.....someone is always there hovering over the showcases. Second, and errors or mistakes should be corrected before placed on sale. And third, one doesn't "have to look it up anyway".

I think the answer lies somewhere around laziness and greed.....Greed in the sense that dealers will "ask" (read charge) different people, different prices. Dave.

They don't because the prices fluctuate per potential buyer. An uneducated buyer will get a ridiculous markup compared to a more educated one

Sorry, forgot to mention the tobacco cards. A fair amount of T201s and 202s but not as many as in past years. 204 Ramlys were pretty scarce. Good selection if T205s and a ton of T206s of course. Prices on any T206 with a lighter color or missing a color or miscut continue to baffle me as they are going through the roof. More T207s than I had seen in previous years but a paucity of Broadleafs, Anonymous back cards and very few red Cycke back cards. The tougher T207s seem to really have dried up. Not very many T213s as they appear to be the flavor if the month lately with a lot of interest in them. Not as many T210s either. The guys like Joe's Vintage Sportscards have seen their inventories evaporate, especially of higher graded T210s and cards from series 4-8. Very few Obaks, surprisingly, no Victorys which I saw.
It seems like more cards are being collected and going in to collections to disappear than in past years when cards seemed to have been flipped much more frequently....

I really appreciate you guys sharing your experiences. I wanted to make it so bad this year but it just wasn't in the "cards", excuse the pun. :) Hopefully next year will be the year I get to attend and finally meet some fellow Net54'ers.

Oh, wanted to ask if there many E93's, E101's, E102's and E92's being offered. Thanks again.

Tbob, did you happen to see any e92 Nadja other than the St. Louis players?

DJ

Hardly any 101s or 102s. A couple of dealers had 93s, graded and raw. Saw a nice Griffith, Jennings, Tinker, Donovan and a few others. Less E92s than in past years, I thought.

I wasn't looking for them but a buddy of mine picked up 2 and flipped them to a dealer who is collecting them. One was from a dealer, the other came in with a collector who wanted to sell some of his cards. I'd say both were vg/vg+.

Two of the cards I picked up which weren't T210s.

Anyone with some leads on high grade T206s, please feel free to call me. Thanks, Kevin 229-630-1686

bob m
 

thanks for the continuing update,
sounds like you're becoming quite the athlete on those concrete floors!
I didn't realize that al c had changed the name of his auction house to
legend of the fame---I thought it was Love of the game auctions!! :)
all the best,
barry

Thanks Bob, I appreciate it. And nice pick ups. That T213-2 Matty looks awesome. T213's do seem to be gaining some steam.

Not excuses....more like potential reasons. Another good reason... If you have the cards for a year do you want to update your price to a higher number In front of the customer if book value goes up as they are holding it?

Now I am aware you absolutely have something to fire back with after that last sentence but I will cut you off by saying...it's a business to some and others not so much. What's wrong with capitalizing on a cards appreciation. You adjust it while in hand you lose a customer on spite alone.

Not everyone has the means to run their life or business to the utmost perfection sometimes. Perhaps they would prefer to take their kids to the park on a Saturday rather than updat their cards prices they take to shows for fun every month.

I'm certain everyone's reAson is different but in all reality one guys rant does not undercut their profits much on what is likely most do for fun and hobby.

That being said. Most of the cards for sale are also online. They have websites phone numbers and email. Just ask from different methods of contact and see if you get a different answer. I do that regularly.

You should always do your homework. Ones that do that make it on your caution list.

My experience is I have not had that happen yet. So I don't mind asking and looking at what I am interested in.

Kevin

No cards for you!

Is it 2 Micks and 1 Mays stolen?:(

Thanks for the updates Bob. Hopefully we get some pics of tonight's dinner. :)

Out of Character
 

My day at the National started at the B & L booth meeting tbob (thanks for the shout out), so I will offer a thankful contribution to his thread.

My expectations were high and I was not disappointed yesterday. I left the show after 7 hours with sore feet:eek: and without the cards I was looking for:(, but still financially solvent:). By the end of the dinner I couldn't have been more pleased with the day ;). My first goal for the day was meeting as many of the folks here as possible. I will not try to list them all fearing exclusions but you know who you are. I'm sure I missed a few and for that I am sorry, but there's always next year.

The highlight of the show itself could not have been more unexpected, when my guest, not a collector, came to the show in the afternoon and immediately ran into someone he knew, who was involved with running the Olympic Collection section. Ultimately we went over to take a look. It was not crowded. After looking at a few items we were made aware of a table that we passed when entering the area. We went over to meet two former Olympians from 1968, who couldn't have been more gracious. We talked for at least 20 minutes with them. There was no line.

My guest and I were college roommates in 1968 and both remembered the '68 games well. Several of our classmates were Olympians that year and were well known to these two that were at the show. The Olympians stay in touch. My take away from that conversation was a signed Olympic jersey for a most reasonable price with the proceeds going to the Olympic Collector organization and not the athletes. Who were they?

Bob Beamon, who shattered the long jump record in 1968, a world record in track and field that stood for 23 years I think and is still an Olympic record and Dick Fosbury, who revolutionized the technique of the high jump in the 68 Olympics by "flopping".

The Dinner last evening was a treat and a tremendous tradition that I am now happy to be a part of. We sat up front by the podium and were joined by "Sterling" Lee, Eric S (who had the drink tickets (+1)) and Leon. By the end of the evening we were joined by many other Net54 "friends", hopefully not only because we had the drink tickets. :rolleyes:

I apologize for the lack of wit in this post and will get back on track very soon, I promise, but wanted to express my sincere thanks to Leon and Net54 community for a day I will always remember.:cool:

Frank
 

Sounds like you had a great time, Frank! Thanks for sharing.

I'm sorry you didn't find any cards to take home, but I find the National is more of a museum than a bargain house, but it's absolutely heaven for collectors and many alike. Can't wait until next year...I'll be there for sure :D

If you like beer consider prostchicago.com
Great German beers. 20 on tap I have never seen before.
The grapefruit beer was really good. Recommend not going for the liter size on it though

.5 liter pilsners
1 liter draft mugs
2 liter drafts in das boot.

Food was great. Pretzel was huge.

What got stolen? Details?

Kevin

Yesterday, thefts were mentioned on cu. Also on the postwar side a discussion and links are posted. Anybody know details about the thefts? Suks bigtime.:( Dave

Made it to the show and am taking lots of pics for later posting.

Anyone with poor condition T201's are welcome to PM me!

Link to the thread?

Kevin

Thanks for updates

Theft link at cu http://forums.collectors.com/message...hreadid=895072 another link http://forums.collectors.com/message...hreadid=895009

I had a chance to go back to the National today and took a few pictures of items I was just blown away by. These are not cards but items that should be found in a museum for all to see and not locked away in a private collection somewhere....but that is a conversation for another day. There are not allot of pictures but these were significant items that I saw.

The first item I was taken with was Johnny Evers Cubs jersey that was found in the Mears booth. This jersey looked like it was in great shape and my mind started to wander as to where this item has been for the last century.

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The second item was a full White Sox jersey but dumb ass me forgot to take a picture of the details of this item. I will have to check out the Mears site to find out who this belonged to. (Maybe someone can swing by there tomorrow to find out who this item was worn by). Next to this vintage Sox Jersey is a Ernie Banks gamer.

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My wife is a huge fan of the movie *61 and she really enjoyed seeing this next item. This is Roger Maris' MVP award as well as a signed game used hat. It was cool to be standing within inches of this award knowing the history of it.

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The next picture is a Jackie Robinson game used Jacket. Nothing more needs to be said.

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This is by far and away the item that just captured my attention. This is the Jesse Owens gold medal that he won in the Berlin Olympics in 1936. What made it more special is that the gentleman behind the SCP counter walked over, took the medal out of the glass case and placed it right on the counter for me to see and touch. For a history lover like me...this was as close to being in the moment where Jesse Owens received this from Hitler as I could come. I feel like I touched history.

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While hanging around the SCP booth I noticed a guy sitting behind, talking to a few of the workers in the booth and recognized him instantly. It seemed nobody else figured out who he was and when he exited the booth he looked right at me and said "do you want a picture?" Of course I said yes and put his arm around me and we had someone snap this shot. He could not have been friendlier and took the time to talk to a friend of mine when he asked him about his days on Chicago's South Side.

I had mentioned to Mr. Gossage that he played for the Cubs when I worked there and I remember him being taller and more intimidating and he looked me dead in the eye, smiled and said..."steroids....lots of them". With that...he laughed, said thank you to me and walked away.

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It was a great show and far more museum-type items than I remember in the past but, after 12 Nationals this might have been the best one. I wanted to get a picture of something that I had seen on Thursday but I could not locate it. There was a full Lou Gehrig bat that had a inscription on it and I was struck by the size of it. It was larger than any bat players of the modern age would use and I had hoped to get a photo.

I did get a chance to meet our resident artist Graig Kreindler who was out walking the show and he is just as nice in person as one would think he would be.

Sorry I didn't get any pics of cards and other items but hopefully others got more.

Wow!!!! great stuff!!!!

Next time they do this, tell them "it's too bad you treated me so poorly. I might just be a kid in your eyes, but little did you know I'm the lone benefactor of the Niederman oil fortune. When I turn 21, I stand to inherit $465 million. In the mean time, I have an allowance of $25,000 a month, and I was really looking forward to buying some rare baseball cards today. I guess I'll have to spend this $50,000 somewhere else."

:D

Great report, Andrew! Thanks for posting the pictures, too!

My son went to the National. He's 20 and he told me he had some of the same experiences the first day. He said he would try dressing up and see if that helped. He said it was like night and day. For some reason everyone started talking to him and dealing with him. Just not me since I didn't get to go.:(

Today was my last day and it ended with a bang. The news was sad early with the theft of the 2 1952 Mantles, 1 1951 Bowman Mantle and the binder of cards. I'll say it again: install surveillance cameras and get some security!!!! I hope they catch these cretins.
Oh we'll, the better news was I got to meet for the first time in person Bruce Babcock and David McDonald whom I have known through competitive bidding and from the 54 Board for many years. I also got to hang out with Jayson Miller and meet many other 54ers for the first time. The social side of the National, to me, is the greatest highlight.
Near the end of the day I stumbled across a red E94 Honus Wagner for my collection. Coupled with the dark green Moore E94 Zach Rice found for me, I am down to needing only 6 more E94s to complete the master set of 180 E94s. It's been a long journey but I'm getting close!
A couple of highlights from the last 24 hours included Josh Evan's speech about his adventures with Charlie Sheen and Roger Clemens and Pedro Martinez at the bar in the Hilton where I am staying.
As my friend David McDonald would say 'Aloha' to the National and I hope to see everyone in Cleveland next year.

Last night dinner at Geno's East with Scott, Richard, Leon, Ed, Gary and me.

Great pic Bob, some serious collectors/collections sitting at that little table.

I don't say this often but if there was an item that needed to be in a museum it's that Owens medal.

Piercing stares. I nearly dropped my Mr Pibb.

Just kidding. It's Rite Aid's generic Mr Pibb. 10% cheaper with the Rite Aid discount card.

I'm speaking metaphysically, of course. About the discount card I mean.

TL;DR

I got little crazy with the phone camera, and thought I'd share what I saw with those who couldn't make the show. Lots of high priced stuff, but most of the vintage sellers I spoke with said that there weren't a lot of sales going on. Excuse the lousy photography. I'd blame the camera, but that would be telling a lie

The Cards:

E102 Cobb

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Goudey Ruths

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Purple Joe Blanket

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Green Joe Blanket

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T200s ChiSox & Tigers

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D304 Mathewson

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A pair of tickets to Game 2 of the '38 Series at Wrigley. Dizzy Dean took the mound for the Cubs, but couldn't hold off the Yanks down the stretch.

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Jimmy Foxx

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T206 Stars

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Orioles: Thrice champions!

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Two of the four T206 Planks I saw. Never saw a Wagner or a Magie. (LOL at the spell checker telling me Magie is spelled wrong!)

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Those are the cards I did not buy. I didn't come home empty handed though. I picked up two cards of the three I needed for my 1908 Cubs set. I'm trying to get one card from each member of the team, and scored a Vin Campbell and a Del Howard! Only guy left is Andy Coakley. Wish he was in something less costly than the T204 set!

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And the haul, such as it is, in total:

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You might wonder what I'd be doing with a box of 1990 Score FB and a 2013 sticker book. Those are the best buys I made all day. My five year old told me he wanted to "do baseball cards" with me after we got home and to pick him up some football cards since he didn't have many in his folder. So I get to open a box of football cards with my son Otis tomorrow morning and he gets some stickers to play with. It promises to be the highlight of my weekend!

Hope everyone got what they wanted at the show.

Mike

More cards!


A big bunch of nice T201s. Sadly, none of them in sad enough shape for me. Nice cards though.

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Three different Mattys in lower grade condition. That one on the right was singing to me, but I left it for another day.

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A T205 Walter Johnson in SGC 92 condition. Remarkable card!

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Someone already posted the beautiful Cubs jerseys and Hartnett MVP trophy, but this old jersey from the Mack Men was just as nice.

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Music for a champion: Dedicated to Mr. Frank Chance of the World Champion Chicago Nationals!

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Couple of $$$ Ruth baseballs:

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A Babe bat:

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And a Cobb cudgel:

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One of the coolest things at the show personally. Ted Kluszewski's jacket from his days at Indiana University. 1945 was the only unbeaten season in Indiana football history, and we finished #2 in the polls to Army that year. Go Hoosiers! Ted was one of the ends on that years squad which featured Hall of Famer Pete Pihos.

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Shoeless Joe, and a Fadeaway. CJs

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More Cracker Jacks:

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From the "Black Swamp Find". These things were in better shape than the 2013 cards everyone was ripping open at the show.

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Beauty, eh?

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The King!

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Giants Hurlers

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Eddie Collins

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Mr. Mack

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"Dummy" Hoy

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I wholeheartedly agree.
 

I don't say this often but if there was an item that needed to be in a museum it's that Owens medal.[/QUOTE]

I'll second that.

My thanks to the gentleman who thoughtfully posted his photo of Jesse Owens's Olympic gold medal. That was very, very moving. --Brian