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Zone91 05-24-2013 06:52 AM

What 2 cards would not sell even if you where offered...
 
What 2 cards would not sell even if you where offered say 40% to 50% over current market value?

I would have to go with my 52 Topps Mantle in PSA 4 and my T206 Murray variation card (misspelled name).

If you have pictures please post them I do not have any available.

Post # 2

maniac_73 05-24-2013 07:06 AM

Weren't you leaving the board?

quinnsryche 05-24-2013 07:07 AM

OMG, here we go again!:eek:

Zone91 05-24-2013 07:09 AM

Guys come on the fight is over like Leon said let's talk cards. If you are not able to talk cards PLEASE do not write in my thread....I will not allow this one to become a train wreck. And will not answer any replies if they do not pertain to baseball cards.

Post # 3

Leon 05-24-2013 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zone91 (Post 1135602)
Guys come on the fight is over like Leon said let's talk cards. If you are not able to talk cards PLEASE do not write in my thread....I will not allow this one to become a train wreck. And will not answer any replies if they do not pertain to baseball cards.

Post # 3

Please don't answer this and use a post Adrian, but I agree with you. And to answer the question, probably my Peck and Snyder and my T231. But those cards could change...

bender07 05-24-2013 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zone91 (Post 1135596)
What 2 cards would not sell even if you where offered say 40% to 50% over current market value?

I would have to go with my 52 Topps Mantle in PSA 4 and my T206 Murray variation card (misspelled name).

If you have pictures please post them I do not have any available.

Post # 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zone91 (Post 1135596)
For me there are only 4 cards that I would be truly willing to spend that kind of money and on:

....

-1952 Topps Mickey Mantle (my max would be a graded 4)

Do you own the Mantle because in the other thread it seemed as if you don't have one...max would be a graded 4

Edited not asking to incite a riot, just not sure if you ever bought one. Feel free to PM me the answer to not use your daily post pool

Zone91 05-24-2013 07:24 AM

bender07

Yes I do own a 52 Topps Mickey Mantle in PSA 4 (just meant that is one of the cards I would be OK with spending that kind of money on and I did the other 3 cards in that thread you are referring to I do not own) I should have wrote beside that statement already owned I just took for granted people already knew that here...I was wrong I guess.

Post # 4

T206Collector 05-24-2013 07:26 AM

<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zVZtUgKvYNgjQWK8PNLz3DiJm_Z5QsNdec5_I7WHZRE?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oeCWC2P6mAA/T7wz-iODO7I/AAAAAAAAKyY/MVkZIoZ99gc/s800/Johnson_SGC_A.jpg" height="800" width="499" /></a>

<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/swNQV2bixh6GcZAeoJci_jiJm_Z5QsNdec5_I7WHZRE?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OhVpYz1aRys/TAAOGsOSADI/AAAAAAAAH20/uGEZ9SoRNa8/s800/image0-2.jpg" height="800" width="501" /></a>

Ease 05-24-2013 07:28 AM

For 150% market value, I'd sell every card I own, other than my pops' stuff from when he was a kid. Then I'd start collecting all over again with the cash:D

maniac_73 05-24-2013 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zone91 (Post 1135614)
bender07

Yes I do own a 52 Topps Mickey Mantle in PSA 4 (just meant that is one of the cards I would be OK with spending that kind of money on and I did the other 3 cards in that thread you are referring to I do not own) I should have wrote beside that statement already owned I just took for granted people already knew that here...I was wrong I guess.

Post # 4

Why do you write post #?

btkpath 05-24-2013 07:36 AM

Well, I am not too creative or esoteric, but my 1914 Cracker Jack Del Pratt and Christy Mathewson will not be going anywhere at any price.

Leon 05-24-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maniac_73 (Post 1135620)
Why do you write post #?

He has a limit of 15 posts per day for right now. I expect that limitation to be lifted in the future. It's a sanity check for the moment... :) (Please don't respond to this Adrian)

atx840 05-24-2013 08:04 AM

Dads 52 Mantle & Chance ghost.

g_vezina_c55 05-24-2013 08:10 AM

For me Adrian, i love each cards in my collection but if i 'll receive an offer over the price i'll sell.

Everything is for sale at the right price, i really love my cards but everything have a price.

Howe’s Hunter 05-24-2013 08:11 AM

Paul, is that Johnson
 
the one that showed up on eBay a couple years ago that was 1) for sale by someone and 2) sitting in your collection at the same time? I seem to remember contacting you about a card that you already owned that was up for auction, and the guy claimed he owned it, even though it was a scan of a card you owned at the time, same number and everything....

T206Collector 05-24-2013 08:23 AM

Yessir, the very same. I am the one true owner!

:D

steve B 05-24-2013 08:27 AM

This one, just because it's the first prewar card I bought. Market value is pretty low, so 50% over just wouldn't be worth it.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=4729

There really isn't a second one. There are a bunch of cards that 40-50% over might not be enough simply because I really couldn't replace them. Either ones that are really hard to find, or ones that are in way above average condition.

Steve B

Publius 05-24-2013 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ease (Post 1135617)
For 150% market value, I'd sell every card I own, other than my pops' stuff from when he was a kid. Then I'd start collecting all over again with the cash:D

Ditto, everything is for sale for the right price. If someone offered me $1m for my collection, I would cash the check and start trudging up the hill again!

Post #1

HOF Auto Rookies 05-24-2013 08:38 AM

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Toss up, the first one for sure, and one of the others :cool:

tiger8mush 05-24-2013 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Publius (Post 1135655)
Ditto, everything is for sale for the right price. If someone offered me $1m for my collection, I would cash the check and start trudging up the hill again!

Post #1

to be fair to the OP, he's asking what would you not sell for 150% of market value. Of course you'd sell your collection for $1M, but is it already worth $700k? Most of us would sell for 10x market value, but which cards would you not sell for a small profit?

Zone91 05-24-2013 08:44 AM

I my question was if you would sell a card even if offered 40% to 50% over current market value not 150%.

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Peter_Spaeth 05-24-2013 08:48 AM

For me, with the exception of a few 60s cards that could very very easily be replaced, that wouldn't be enough of a premium to entice me to sell anything, I don't think. Just not worth the effort to start the search again.

brob28 05-24-2013 08:51 AM

The only ones I would not sell are those from my original childhood collection. For a 40-50% premium over market I would sell any as long as I felt I could replace it easliy at market price.

Edited to add: There are some others with sentimental value that I would not sell, but in the grand scheme of things are nothing special.

HOF Auto Rookies 05-24-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1135610)
Please don't answer this and use a post Adrian, but I agree with you. And to answer the question, probably my Peck and Snyder and my T231. But those cards could change...

Leon, gotta post scans of those beauties :)

t206hound 05-24-2013 08:55 AM

hmmm...
 
I think a similar question was asked about a year or so ago... and the card that I listed as my answer has been traded away. :confused:

At this point, I'd have to list these two. Anything else in my collection could be probably be replaced (and pretty easily); I have another Rossman-McBride, but it's not as nice:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1362004631http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1362004596

Zone91 05-24-2013 08:57 AM

Nice stuff guys...keep them coming!!!:)

Post # 6

VoodooChild 05-24-2013 08:58 AM

I only have one card that I am that sentimentally tied to. My dad bought me a Clemente rookie back in '85 for my 11th birthday. It's a little off-center, but would probably grade at a 4 or 5. I could replace it, but could never replace the memories of my childhood that it brings. So, it is priceless to me.

Thanks
- Jason

smtjoy 05-24-2013 09:02 AM

My two cards I would never sell I purchased as a kid, the T-206 Clarke was my first pre ww2 HOFer and a gift from my parents. The Nabisco Clemente was a card I had on my want list that I searched for at a few conventions and was so happy to finally find one-

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...206ClarkeA.jpg

gnaz01 05-24-2013 09:10 AM

Toss up
 
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Mine would be this one

Zone91 05-24-2013 09:11 AM

gnaz01

Very cool Wagner...never saw that card before anywhere!!!:)

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MVSNYC 05-24-2013 09:23 AM

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These.

gnaz01 05-24-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zone91 (Post 1135680)
gnaz01

Very cool Wagner...never saw that card before anywhere!!!:)

Post # 6

Adrian, only 3 known to exist, that I know of :D

Zone91 05-24-2013 09:27 AM

gnaz01

Geezzzz now that is ultra rare...very nice!!! Dang....even rarer than my Murray with 4 known to exist!!!

Post # 7

EvilKing00 05-24-2013 09:29 AM

I guess id would say 1921 Schapira Bros Ruth (graded A - buts its Mint) & then its a toss up between my jordan RC (BVG8) - Gretzky RC (bccg 8) - or the reprint (yes reprint) (forgot the year 20??) of a 1952 topps mays that is actually signed by him. Sig is auth. I pulled it from a pack fresh my self.

atx840 05-24-2013 10:03 AM

I only have this crappy pic of them together at the bank. I really dislike screwdowns :mad:

http://i.imgur.com/q20Iwsl.jpg

Zone91 05-24-2013 10:06 AM

atx840

What happened to the card on the right why is it moving so much in the screw down holder? Why not just send it in for grading to preserve it better?

Nice type one 1952 Topps Mantle (Nice colors for the grade...corners are pretty good as well)!!! How long have you owned the Mantle for?

Post # 8

atx840 05-24-2013 10:11 AM

Cheap screwdown holder, oddly enough it should show up later today properly slabbed.

My dad pulled it from a pack when he was 10...don't waste a post on me :D

auggiedoggy 05-24-2013 10:11 AM

None that I can think of.

Cardboard Junkie 05-24-2013 10:16 AM

It would be tough to part with any of my 1910 Tip Top Bread Cards, (Dreyfus in particular),
also my 53 Glendale Houtteman (took me forever to get one).

auggiedoggy 05-24-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 1135716)
Cheap screwdown holder, oddly enough it should show up later today properly slabbed.

My dad pulled it from a pack when he was 10...don't waste a post on me :D

Is that the Pro-Mold single screw holder? Is card shifting typical of those holders? I almost bulk-ordered those!!! :eek:

MVSNYC 05-24-2013 10:19 AM

Chris- both are stunning cards!

Cardboard Junkie 05-24-2013 10:23 AM

Adrian.....is your 52T Mantle a type 1 or 2? Would like to see a scan.

Also....Does your t206 Murray have a bad back?
Seems strange that as a former coin collector you would want a card with a damaged "reverse". I realize that paper loss is acceptable to some collectors, but I for one just pass on any card with part of it missing.

z28jd 05-24-2013 10:28 AM

I have too many to list, but I'll say the easy two choices would be my first T206 card, Bresnahan, portrait and my first Old Judge card, Joe Mulvey. I bought them in 1991, which means I've owned them for much longer than I haven't owned them(counting my lifetime only). Since both are lower grade, 50% over value(which is 150% of the value by the way Adrian) wouldn't even get a response from me. Since neither is tough to find elsewhere, there would be no reason for anyone to pay my price on them, which would be well past 100x actual value....well past

Zone91 05-24-2013 10:31 AM

Cardboard Junkie

Here are both Ebay links for both cards the 52 is a type 2 (the colors are VERY vibrant in real life compared to pics in the link bellow). Well like anything when only a few exist some times we bend our own rules....in this case the Murray has a real nice front and a real bad back.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/271189783652?...84.m1439.l2649

and

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/121094488834?...84.m1439.l2649

Sorry NEVER take pictures of my cards and do not own a camera...and soon as I receive a card worth more than a 1000$ it goes directly into my bank vault no exceptions.

Post # 9

auggiedoggy 05-24-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zone91 (Post 1135731)
Cardboard Junkie

Here are both Ebay links for both cards the 52 is a type 2. Well like anything when only a few exist some times we bend our own rules....in this case the Murray has a real nice front and a real bad back.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/271189783652?...84.m1439.l2649

and

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/121094488834?...84.m1439.l2649

Sorry NEVER take pictures of my cards and do not own a camera...and soon as I receive a card worth more than a 1000$ it goes directly into my bank vault no exceptions.

Post # 9

Zone,

Send your cards to me and I'll photograph them for you. I promise to take good care of them. :D

p.s. We need an emoticon with a halo over its head for posts just like this one!

Zone91 05-24-2013 10:36 AM

Actually my most important card was a MVP from Mario Lemieux's rookie year that my mother purchased for me as a kid for Christmas but when moving some stuff years sago it was lost forever. It was less than a 100$ but meant a lot to me!!!

This is what the card looks like (not the one I actually owned):

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1985-O-PEE-CHEE-262-Mario-Lemieux-ROOKIE-LDR-PSA-9-PD-/07/!B,g8OO!CGk~$(KGrHqUH-D0EqujnHITfBKry9TM)tg~~_12.JPG

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EvilKing00 05-24-2013 10:47 AM

do not own a camera? do you have a cell phone?

MikeGarcia 05-24-2013 10:51 AM

This is one of them . I need more time.
 
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...EW_NEW_NEW.JPG

Zone91 05-24-2013 10:53 AM

EvilKing00

No neither. I never was one for taking pictures.

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Tcards-Please 05-24-2013 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zone91 (Post 1135731)
Cardboard Junkie

Here are both Ebay links for both cards the 52 is a type 2 (the colors are VERY vibrant in real life compared to pics in the link bellow). Well like anything when only a few exist some times we bend our own rules....in this case the Murray has a real nice front and a real bad back.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/271189783652?...84.m1439.l2649

and

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/121094488834?...84.m1439.l2649

Sorry NEVER take pictures of my cards and do not own a camera...and soon as I receive a card worth more than a 1000$ it goes directly into my bank vault no exceptions.

Post # 9

Adrian,
Nice cards. The pictures from ebay auctions will eventually be removed. If you don't have a camera, I would at least save the image to your computer so that you have a picture of it.

r/
Frank

Tcards-Please 05-24-2013 11:01 AM

My two
 
Mine would be:

1. 1914 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson (wife bought for me as a gift)
2. 1978 Topps Baseball set that was put together with my grandmother in 1978.

r/
Frank

glchen 05-24-2013 11:11 AM

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Probably these two.

Zone91 05-24-2013 11:12 AM

glchen

That is one heck of a nice Ruth photo!!!:)

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MVSNYC 05-24-2013 11:53 AM

Gary- awesome Ruth PC!

Sidenote- took me 4 years to reach 700 posts...took Zone 2 months to reach 800. ;)

EvilKing00 05-24-2013 12:01 PM

awesome ruth - where did u get it?

glchen 05-24-2013 12:03 PM

Thanks all, but I think Pete (pcoz) needs to show his 3 different versions of this.

Exhibitman 05-24-2013 12:16 PM

Nothing. Anything that I have ultimately is for sale--it's just stuff, after all--but the rare stuff would be for sale only with a mark-up over what I consider to be the real value. I suppose the last things I'd want to sell are the cards I got when I was a kid and still have. There are a few of them. They aren't worth much, relatively speaking, but they remind me of my childhood so I'd just as soon not sell them even at a substantial mark-up. Now, if you want to give me life-altering money for them, I will not only sell, I will carry them to your car for you. I may be dumb but I'm not stupid, after all.

brian1961 05-24-2013 12:16 PM

Tough question, as I have more than 2
 
:o
Adrian, first off, I'm very glad you came back. You provide thought-provoking threads and responses. Our hobby needs that more than ever. With that, keep taking the time to stick in that 'ol punctuation; makes your worthwhile comments easier to read and more creditable.;)

1) I was blessed to be able to get a 1954 Stahl-Meyer Franks of Mickey Mantle in 1989. The owner gave me 2-3 months to raise the money and agreed to hold it for me. I managed to just pull it off, through SCD sales. It was easier to do that then. So, I turned $2,500 worth of cards into 1 single card. Absolutely, positively marvelous card. If a card could be breathtaking, this one has it. Eventually, in 2008, I got the Mantle graded by SGC. Because of its one problem, it received 50 VG-EX, but I figured it would. The problem is a half-inch back crease from the middle side in (you cannot see it on the front). Years later, the man who sold it to me got a chance to see it again and remarked, "I forgot how great that card looked."

2) Though not a card, I have a mint 1935 Chicago Cubs World Series press pin. I traded rather heavily for it. It was the pin issued to the AL president, Will Harridge. I never tire of looking at that gorgeous artifact. To think, the Cubs won their last 21 games of the season to take down the defending Series champions, the Cardinals. Mr. Wrigley was very frugal, and did not make pins for every Tom, Dick, and Harry. They weren't facing NY either, so the press corps attending this Series was not as humongous as would have been the case if the Yanks had been their opponent. That's why of the 5 Series pins of that era involving the Cubs, the 1935 is the toughest, and perhaps the prettiest of the 5. Sure wish the Cubs had won their last 21 in 1969. Oh well, it was great while it lasted.

Again, Adrian, welcome back and stay put. As Lionel Carter told me about his writing, I keep punchin'. So do the same, fellow collector warrior!:D

-----------Brian Powell

E93 05-24-2013 01:12 PM

I'm not sure that there is a current "market value" for these since they are one-of-a-kind and have not been offered on the open market, but I would not take 5x the highest price paid for any other N167 common.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...dback.tiff.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...dback.tiff.jpg

HOF Auto Rookies 05-24-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E93 (Post 1135859)
I'm not sure that there is a current "market value" for these since they are one-of-a-kind and have not been offered on the open market, but I would not take 5x the highest price paid for any other N167 common.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...dback.tiff.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...dback.tiff.jpg

The Dude abides

egbeachley 05-24-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zone91 (Post 1135660)
I my question was if you would sell a card even if offered 40% to 50% over current market value not 150%.

50% over market value is the same as 150% of market value.

In reality it would be silly for anyone to not sell a card for 50% over market value since they could just buy another and keep the 50% profit. The only exception would be cards with sentimental value (a replacement just isn't the same) or where something is rare enough that another will not come around for awhile.

For me it's the following with no established value and these are the only ones known to exist. What's cooler than a 19th century gladiator card (N197)and a Robert E Lee general card (T64) that was not know to exist until recently.



http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...hley/N197F.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...ey/T64LeeF.jpg

Blackie 05-24-2013 01:28 PM

Cards I will not sell
 
My 1958 Topps Baseball "master set" in SGC is something I will not sell. Hoping to pass it down to the grandkids as soon I have it at 100% (now at 78%). With regrets of selling other cards over the years and making the mistake to think you can get them back, Ive learned some valuable lessons. Keep the cards you like cause once they are gone..........they are gone.

leaflover 05-24-2013 01:34 PM

Tough Question!
 
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Here are 2 cards I won't sell. Two reasons; (1)They would be too hard to replace. (2) I'm the only kid on the block that has them this nice.

sportscardpete 05-24-2013 01:35 PM

probably my e104-3 Doolan (in my avatar), and maybe my e107 Murphy. Anything else can be had for a good price. Those two cards aren't even the most expensive cards in my collect; rather, they are two cards I would have extreme difficulty replacing.

hangman62 05-24-2013 03:16 PM

Sell
 
Id sell every card and set I own...for 50% of book if I could

Julz24 05-24-2013 03:36 PM

For me I can't pick two to not sell. I collect cards period. I haven't sold a single one in 33 years.

cardaholic 05-24-2013 03:54 PM

Not sure which, but
 
for me, it would have to be personally obtained cards of now-deceased players. Anything else I have, even if very difficult to replace, doesn't have the same sort of sentimental value.

kdixon 05-24-2013 03:59 PM

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Probably these two cards as they both came out of Zach Wheats Scrapbook. Zach Wheats T206 of himself is pretty special to me.

frankb22 05-24-2013 04:16 PM

1) Autographed T206 Marquard portrait

2) Complete 1975 Topps set I collected as a kid

Eric72 05-24-2013 04:45 PM

1) Social Security Card

2) Library Card

At 50% above market, anything else is up for grabs. :)

ejharrington 05-24-2013 05:56 PM

If I had to sell everything I owned (not just baseball cards) the last thing I would part with is my 1909 PSA 6 Philadelphia Caramel Eddie Cicotte...

Cardboard Junkie 05-24-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejharrington (Post 1136026)
If I had to sell everything I owned (not just baseball cards) the last thing I would part with is my 1909 PSA 6 Philadelphia Caramel Eddie Cicotte...

Well, let's see that bad boy! Dave.

ullmandds 05-24-2013 06:37 PM

the card that is probably the most special to me...is not vintage...it is the 77' Burger King short print lou pinella card...#23. I offered my buddy a 67' topps brooks robinson for his but he wouldn't part with his.

I now have 2 and I would not take $20 for either one of them...ever!!!!!

SetBuilder 05-24-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T206Collector (Post 1135615)
<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/swNQV2bixh6GcZAeoJci_jiJm_Z5QsNdec5_I7WHZRE?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OhVpYz1aRys/TAAOGsOSADI/AAAAAAAAH20/uGEZ9SoRNa8/s800/image0-2.jpg" height="800" width="501" /></a>


Impressive!
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18ol...f/original.gif

wonkaticket 05-24-2013 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E93 (Post 1135859)
I'm not sure that there is a current "market value" for these since they are one-of-a-kind and have not been offered on the open market, but I would not take 5x the highest price paid for any other N167 common.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...dback.tiff.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...dback.tiff.jpg

Wow....just freakin wow!

Jlighter 05-24-2013 07:04 PM

I'm not saying I would never sell it...but I would need more then 50% Market Value.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8237/8...a84c9c5c_z.jpg

Gradedcardman 05-24-2013 07:13 PM

Hmmmm
 
I'm with Eric on the SS card but number two has to be my insurance card.

dabigyankeeman 05-24-2013 07:50 PM

I would sell my Mantle Bowman and Topps PSA-1 rookies for 40-50% over value, then use the money to re-buy them in a little better condition.

tiger8mush 05-24-2013 08:04 PM

Sporting Boilers
 
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150% of market value would get me to sell probably most of my collection, but not these (don't think the market value is very high on them) ...

Luke 05-24-2013 10:29 PM

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