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Leon 01-08-2013 08:56 PM

tobacco card packaging...
 
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We talk a lot about tobacco cards so a thread about the packaging they came in seems relevant. It's always fun to see some of the packs, boxes and associated items. I haven't added much tobacciana to the collection lately so it will be some previously seen items, on my part...

ullmandds 01-08-2013 08:58 PM

wow...those are sweet!!!!! Never seen either of those b4...cool! I'm guessing those are pretty tough to find?

RCMcKenzie 01-08-2013 09:17 PM

T213 distribution
 
Drum and Carolina Brights packs must be hard to find. I have not seen those before either, but I have not really followed the packs.


Do y'all know if this information is correct about T213 distribution...

www.baseballandtobacco.com/t213.htm

I thought I remember Ted Z. posting about T213's being distributed in large cartons. Maybe both methods were used or maybe I have misremembered again. Thanks.

T3s 01-08-2013 09:19 PM

Some T3 stuff
 
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You buy the cigarettes, collect the coupons, mail them in with your choice of player (Matty!) and sooner or later an envelope from Jersey City arrives with your prize.

T3s 01-08-2013 09:24 PM

More T3 stuff
 
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Fez cigarettes will get you a T3 too, you just need to smoke more!!

canjond 01-08-2013 09:39 PM

Another incredibly tough one....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ld/Hindu-1.jpg

Which can be seen here:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ld/HinduAd.jpg

Pythonfactory 01-08-2013 09:43 PM

Love it. Keep these coming!

atx840 01-08-2013 10:58 PM

http://i.imgur.com/7hl4r.jpg

E93 01-08-2013 11:08 PM

Leon,
When are you going to sell me those?
JimB
Here are a few mid-level toughies, though not in the same league with Leon's or Jon's

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...uty%20pack.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...cle%20pack.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...PDG%20pack.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...ign%20pack.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...toi%20pack.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...ox%20front.jpg

piedmont150 01-09-2013 06:46 AM

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Love the Drum and Carolina Brights packs!! Never seen either one! I only have the easy ones, Sweet Caporal and Piedmont. The pride of my tobacco collection though are my Hindu and Old Mill ads including an entire New Orleans Daily Picayune newspaper with a huge Hindu ad. Thanks for sharing the pack pics everyone.

Leon 01-09-2013 06:56 AM

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Most packaging is much scarcer than their associated cards as the packaging would have been discarded after use. Yes, the first 2 shown are quite scarce, as well as many others in this thread. These are the only 2 of these I have seen so far..T216

3-2-count 01-09-2013 06:56 AM

Great items everyone..

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...tny/pbpak1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...y/DSC02221.jpg

tedzan 01-09-2013 07:16 AM

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...162gaudaur.jpg.http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...dgecigpack.jpg


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...ackjohnson.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...igpackt206.jpg




http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...ameccacobb.jpg


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...itboxncard.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...itboxncard.jpg



http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...atecigpack.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...atecigpack.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...t215pirate.jpg



:) And, here is one for laughs :)

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...orygumpack.jpg



TED Z

teetwoohsix 01-09-2013 07:28 AM

This is a wonderful thread, thank you all for showing these amazing items. Love seeing this stuff !!!

Sincerely, Clayton

Paul S 01-09-2013 07:40 AM

I wish I had some to add. In the meantime I'll just drool.

DixieBaseball 01-09-2013 07:50 AM

Coupon's...
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 1071113)
Drum and Carolina Brights packs must be hard to find. I have not seen those before either, but I have not really followed the packs.


Do y'all know if this information is correct about T213 distribution...

www.baseballandtobacco.com/t213.htm

I thought I remember Ted Z. posting about T213's being distributed in large cartons. Maybe both methods were used or maybe I have misremembered again. Thanks.


Rob - I think Ted meant that Coupon packs were distributed in large cartons like this one : Pic 1 is picture of Top - Pic 2 is picture of the side and pic 3 is a picture of the end of the carton.

DixieBaseball 01-09-2013 07:54 AM

Coupons :
 
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Coupons Packs

Brian Weisner 01-09-2013 08:29 AM

Nice packs.... Here are a few more...

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...psf5ef7bba.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...psb5e1fb57.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps0b5659f9.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps3c58fb6b.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...psc9f28067.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps0214e1a0.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps5fdfdfdc.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps0b71dacd.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps0cb9c1b0.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...psa4fd723c.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...psf86ab7ee.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps21d39f19.jpg


Be well Brian

GasHouseGang 01-09-2013 10:38 AM

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I picked this up but don't know if any cards came in the tin. Just thought it was cool.

Brian Campf 01-09-2013 11:29 AM

1909 Obak promotional pack / postcard
 
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1909 Obak promotional pack / postcard.

canjond 01-09-2013 01:40 PM

A few more:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...Packs/Obak.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...eJackclose.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...reole-eBay.jpg

tedzan 01-09-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NashvilleBaseball (Post 1071211)
Rob - I think Ted meant that Coupon packs were distributed in large cartons like this one : Pic 1 is picture of Top - Pic 2 is picture of the side and pic 3 is a picture of the end of the carton.

Jeremy

Pardon me for this modification, ole buddy. It's my opinion that the 1910 "COUPON" cigarettes were never in the standard ATC cigarette packs.
They were distributed in cartons of 500 - 1000 loose cigarettes (tightly packed). These cartons can be identified by the label.... "COUPON" Cigarettes.

As, I'm sure you know, the carton you have displayed is for the T213-2, or T213-3 issues (circa 1914-1919)....as the "Liggett & Myers Tobacco Co." label implies.


Here is a similar carton............

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9e708636.jpg
Scott B.......thanks for this RAMLY carton.


TED Z

kkkkandp 01-09-2013 03:09 PM

Well, There Were No Cards In This, But...
 
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...it is related! :)

goodtricks 01-09-2013 03:44 PM

What a thread!

WillowGrove 01-09-2013 07:08 PM

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Even though I care more about the baseball aspect, I still love the packaging and related items for our tobacco cards. Craig, nice succinct way to set up your cool T3' stuff!

I was happy to win this toughie a few months back on Ebay.

DixieBaseball 01-09-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1071405)
Jeremy

Pardon me for this modification, ole buddy. It's my opinion that the 1910 "COUPON" cigarettes were never in the standard ATC cigarette packs.
They were distributed in cartons of 500 - 1000 loose cigarettes (tightly packed). These cartons can be identified by the label.... "COUPON" Cigarettes.

As, I'm sure you know, the carton you have displayed is for the T213-2, or T213-3 issues (circa 1914-1919)....as the "Liggett & Myers Tobacco Co." label implies.

TED Z


Ted - Interesting theory. I'll bite. What makes you think they were packed in cartons instead of packs ? JJ

Cerberus 01-11-2013 01:55 PM

Go ahead and bounce this as being too new, but...........
 
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...................I just can't help myself:

Cerberus 01-11-2013 02:02 PM

Needless to say..........
 
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............this is my favorite thread:

Leon 01-11-2013 02:13 PM

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I am hopeless....

peterb69 01-11-2013 03:03 PM

Very Nice

Cerberus 01-11-2013 06:46 PM

Bump..............
 
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...........lol....it's a disease, Leon. Don't fight it:

canjond 01-11-2013 10:16 PM

Some more interesting ones:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/RedCross.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/MVC-001F.jpg

E93 01-11-2013 11:18 PM

Some really incredible stuff has been posted here by Jon, Brian, Jeremy, Leon, and many others.
JimB

willworkforT206 01-11-2013 11:22 PM

More packs
 
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Leon - I was the unfortunate underbidder on both of those Drum and Carolina Brights packs. Incredible pick-ups!

Here's a few that haven't been shown yet....T206 brands, of course.

1) UZIT, ATC Factory 30, 5 pack (shell only)
2) Sweet Caporal harder to find Factory 42 (shell only)
3) Cycle 20 pack shell - not T206 era, but cool litho graphics
4) Side of a post-T206 era Sovereign pack that states "Tobacco Never Harmed Anyone". Gotta love it!

Please keep this thread going!

Steve

canjond 01-11-2013 11:41 PM

Turkish Trophies with T3 advertisement:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...Packs/band.jpg

Unopened Old Mill:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...lPackinWax.jpg

A period Coupon pack:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...Packs/t213.gif

Cerberus 01-12-2013 11:36 AM

Must.........keep.........going.......
 
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....help....

Jlighter 01-12-2013 01:56 PM

This one isn't nearly as great as others posted here.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8...29330b6a_o.jpg

Cerberus 01-12-2013 05:18 PM

Walk like an..................
 
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.............Egyptienne !!!

E93 01-12-2013 05:26 PM

A few more not shown yet.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...co%20packs.jpg

Cerberus 01-13-2013 01:44 PM

I wonder............
 
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.........how petrified the gum inside must be?

rdwyer 01-13-2013 01:53 PM

tobacco card packaging...
 
I'm looking for a "slide" for an Old Mill box. If you have an extra, please PM me or send an email. TIA

Cerberus 01-13-2013 06:31 PM

Hard..............
 
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............and soft:

EvilKing00 01-13-2013 07:00 PM

a real nice unopened pack just sold tonight on ebay, anyone here get it?

canjond 01-13-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilKing00 (Post 1073370)
a real nice unopened pack just sold tonight on ebay, anyone here get it?

I assume you are referring to the SC? I was the underbidder, but thought it went for a very fair price. If I didn't have a few already, I would certainly have gone stronger.

JollyElm 01-14-2013 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilKing00 (Post 1073370)
a real nice unopened pack just sold tonight on ebay, anyone here get it?

I only collect post-war stuff, so I have a 'newbie' question. Are there unopened cigarette packs floating around out there (on ebay or at auction) with t206 cards in them? And what would one look for if they were somehow to run across an old unopened pack in, say, some antiques store?

EvilKing00 01-14-2013 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canjond (Post 1073457)
I assume you are referring to the SC? I was the underbidder, but thought it went for a very fair price. If I didn't have a few already, I would certainly have gone stronger.

Yes that was the one - was unopenet too - I dont have the link but i think it went for like $275.

My qyustion would be is there a baseball card in there? or some obscure card?

Cerberus 01-14-2013 11:40 AM

For some reason.............
 
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........I really like this issue:

Tom S. 01-15-2013 01:07 PM

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps6a9e518c.jpg

Cerberus 01-15-2013 01:59 PM

Hate the stains on card backs.............
 
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......if only they'd have sealed them in cellophane, inside the packs.

mrvster 01-15-2013 02:34 PM

i don't own any related items...
 
just wanted to say:eek:

these are all jawdropping:eek:

I have put most my resources into the freaks, but these items I have always enjoyed....wow....

Leon 01-15-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvster (Post 1074215)
just wanted to say:eek:

these are all jawdropping:eek:

I have put most my resources into the freaks, but these items I have always enjoyed....wow....


Hey Johnny
You should come over to this dark side sometime.

http://luckeycards.com/ppackgypsy1queen.jpg


http://luckeycards.com/pogggdogsheadcarton1.jpg

canjond 01-16-2013 12:21 AM

To go along with Leon's:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...anfield/GQ.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...nfield/GQ1.jpg

Blitzu 01-16-2013 05:57 AM

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A just found this pack this weekend in a small antique shop in St Louis.

Pythonfactory 01-16-2013 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitzu (Post 1074455)
A just found this pack this weekend in a small antique shop in St Louis.

Nice find!

sycks22 01-16-2013 07:24 AM

Love this thread, keep'em coming.

3-2-count 01-16-2013 07:33 AM

Piedmont cigarette case.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ntcigcont1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ntcigcont2.jpg

Piedmont bin for singles that would have been on a store shelf. I've not seen another one like this. Have you Jon?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ashtray1-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ntashtray2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ntashtray3.jpg

canjond 01-16-2013 10:48 AM

Tony- that's a first for me.

Cerberus 01-16-2013 12:33 PM

Anyone.........
 
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.......for a smoke?

rdwyer 01-16-2013 03:58 PM

tobacco card packaging...
 
Cerberus: Light one of those joints up and report back. :)

3-2-count 01-16-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canjond (Post 1074541)
Tony- that's a first for me.

Thanks Jon......

EvilKing00 01-16-2013 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3-2-count (Post 1074478)

thats awesome man - IF it was mine i would consider restoring that, would look amazing

Cerberus 01-16-2013 06:18 PM

That Piedmont doobie was unbelivable....................
 
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......rdwyer. Just came out of it. Thinking about trying one of these Obaks tonight, but I've heard they're killer. I'll let you know:

canjond 01-16-2013 06:26 PM

Packaging for a 20-pack carton of Tolstoi...

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ks/tolstoi.jpg

T3s 01-16-2013 09:06 PM

Turkey Red Cigs
 
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Haven't had the urge (or need) to fire one of these up yet.

Iron Horse 01-16-2013 11:56 PM

Great stuff guys
 
Amazing to see all the different brands and packaging.
Thanks for sharing

DixieBaseball 01-17-2013 02:54 PM

Red Sun :
 
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Red Sun : 1st pack - Very scarce remake from the 70/80's. The last 2 packs are period and I don't own them (but would like too ;) )

Cerberus 01-17-2013 05:06 PM

Only problem with this unopened pack is...............
 
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.....now I have to spring for a large silk or L-1 leather premium, to display with it:

canjond 01-17-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NashvilleBaseball (Post 1075081)
Red Sun : 1st pack - Very scarce remake from the 70/80's. The last 2 packs are period and I don't own them (but would like too ;) )

The Red Sun on the far right dates to approximately 1903-07. The graphics then changed and the one on the left would have been more appropriate for the distribution of cards. Both of those are scarce. I've never seen another one of the "Butler" boxes (other than the one pictured), and I've only seen 2 of the "card appropriate" Red Sun packs - both of which ended up in China.

canjond 01-17-2013 08:08 PM

This does not belong to me, but a very rare tin... This is the only "correct" Yum Yum tin I've ever heard of. Outside of the lid, the label reads "Cards are placed at the bottom of the box."

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...umYumwcard.jpg

Cerberus 01-18-2013 12:14 PM

Of course I'm tempted to open it...............
 
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.........but I'm sure I never will. My dupe on the other hand, hmmmmmm.......

EvilKing00 01-19-2013 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerberus (Post 1075406)
.........but I'm sure I never will. My dupe on the other hand, hmmmmmm.......

wonder if there is a T206 wagner in there???? I would open it, :eek:


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