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CharleyBrown 08-30-2012 05:07 PM

Legendary Winnings
 
Did anybody pick anything up last night in Legendary's Day 1?

Curious to see who got some of the CJs and the 1956 Hocus Focus lot.

bcbgcbrcb 08-30-2012 06:47 PM

Lost out on the '25 Exhibit Gehrig (PSA 3MK), my only serious interest........

E93 08-30-2012 07:44 PM

I picked up this tough California League card.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...%20Noonan.jpeg

sycks22 08-30-2012 07:54 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Picked up some goodies.

Forever Young 08-30-2012 07:59 PM

Nice Cards Pete!

I have a question(more into memorabilia anymore and kind of lost touch with card market) but is GAI still strong in cards? I know that if I see an autograph authenticated I assume it is fake. I remember at the same time that started, the cards were still strong though. How is a GAI slabbed cars revered these days?

Matthew H 08-30-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E93 (Post 1032146)
I picked up this tough California League card.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblum...%20Noonan.jpeg

Wow Jim, great pickup!!!

drc 08-30-2012 08:38 PM

GAI is not strong, though the cards are likely to be genuine. Unlike the autograph side, I'm not aware they grade fakes or reprints.

markf31 08-30-2012 08:46 PM

I picked up a CJ for a good price, but I'll be looking to sell/trade it when I do have it in hand.

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/...J_Boehling.jpg

phikappapsi 08-30-2012 09:32 PM

I picked up the signed '39 play ball DiMaggio that closed tonight

vintagerookies51 08-30-2012 09:36 PM

Great pick-ups guys!

If the winner of the N172 Buck Ewing that ended tonight is on here, could you please contact me? Thank you

cubsfan-budman 08-30-2012 09:43 PM

I just wonthis. It looks nothing like Nap Lajoie, but hey :)

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Ite...-copy_med.jpeg

ethicsprof 08-30-2012 09:52 PM

winnings
 
I'm pleased to have won the Houle Oil Painting of Gehringer, Lot #1491.
Great pickups everyone.
all the best,
barry

Runscott 08-30-2012 11:33 PM

I got this, to go along with the photo used for the 1952 Bowman Landry:

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Ite...32822a_lg.jpeg

terjung 08-30-2012 11:33 PM

Sick Hess, Jim! Congrats!

Leon 08-30-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terjung (Post 1032205)
Sick Hess, Jim! Congrats!

Agreed....of all of the cards so far, and there are some beauties, I think my fave is Jim's Hess card. What a beauty!! Congrats Jim....

terjung 08-30-2012 11:48 PM

One from Goodwin and three from Legendary - all with a common theme...

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...r%20front3.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...%20Wagner1.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...gner%20pin.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...pin%20back.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...e%20Wagner.jpg

E93 08-31-2012 12:38 AM

Thanks guys.


Brian,
That quartet of Wagners is off the charts!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
JimB

markf31 08-31-2012 05:25 AM

Anyone win the Tip Top Bread Camnitz PSA 6? I could make it worth your time to PM me. Someone feel asleep on the couch with laptop in hand and missed the end of the auction.

pcoz 08-31-2012 05:38 AM

Wagner's
 
Hey Brian, those Wagner's are awesome, great work!!

GaryPassamonte 08-31-2012 05:40 AM

Jim- Are you picking another impossible set to collect? Great card.

Exhibitman 08-31-2012 06:26 AM

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...20Heilmann.jpg

3-2-count 08-31-2012 06:37 AM

One of the prettiest set's ever produced.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...y/cjschalk.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ny/cjwalsh.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...ny/cjwheat.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...cjbender-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...cjclarke-1.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95.../cjcarey-1.jpg

cubsfan-budman 08-31-2012 07:08 AM

Nice pickups!

I just got my invoice from Legendary...that shipping is LUDICROUS!

Ha...I thought some ebay sellers were running a racket...

Robextend 08-31-2012 07:32 AM

I won Lot #585 - 1976 & 1977 Topps complete sets in EX-NM condition. I put in a low bid a few days ago and I can't believe it stayed at that bid...I am very happy.

mcap100176 08-31-2012 07:39 AM

Since Rob posted he won Lot 585, I won lot 584, the 1975 Topps mini set.

Anyone win 583 or 586?

http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDeta...-Set-%28660%29

ullmandds 08-31-2012 07:45 AM

Agreed... they should be charged for rape with those ridiculous shipping fees. I think this will be my last legendary auction.

Robextend 08-31-2012 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcap100176 (Post 1032258)
Since Rob posted he won Lot 585, I won lot 584, the 1975 Topps mini set.

Anyone win 583 or 586?

http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDeta...-Set-%28660%29

Nice pickup! Those key examples look really sharp!

Runscott 08-31-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1032262)
Agreed... they should be charged for rape with those ridiculous shipping fees. I think this will be my last legendary auction.

edited - hate to start the day with a smart-ass comment :)

Exhibitman 08-31-2012 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1032262)
Agreed... they should be charged for rape with those ridiculous shipping fees. I think this will be my last legendary auction.

Might be theirs too, if the Feds get moving!

I like starting my day with a smart-ass comment.

rainier2004 08-31-2012 08:50 AM

There were a couple CJ's that went far below what I thought they would have - What are the ripple down effects of in the indictment? Did they change participation in this auction?

ullmandds 08-31-2012 08:50 AM

Yes I'm disappointed the smart ass comment was retracted as well... I can only hope what comes around goes around!

ullmandds 08-31-2012 08:51 AM

Tony great pick ups on the crackerjacks... I really wanted that Clarke! At least Fred has a good home!

Brian...holy honus-i...love the ju ju!

4815162342 08-31-2012 08:53 AM

Now that I've heard Johnny say, "Boy, those shipping fees sure are high." I'll be the audience and say, "How high?"

Examples?

Leon 08-31-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 1032292)
Now that I've heard Johnny say, "Boy, those shipping fees sure are high." I'll be the audience and say, "How high?"

Examples?


I won a $1400 lot of 4 sgc graded, M101-4 cards. My shipping was $23.

ullmandds 08-31-2012 08:58 AM

I would have to presume on a single high dollar card the insurance cost is what causes the stratospheric price.

terjung 08-31-2012 09:04 AM

$64 in shipping for 2 cards and a pin.

x2drich2000 08-31-2012 09:06 AM

I won a single card with a bid of $150. Buyers premium=$29.25. Shipping=$18.23. Total $197.48.

DJ

rainier2004 08-31-2012 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1032293)
I won a $1400 lot of 4 sgc graded, M101-4 cards. My shipping was $23.

So is that a special rate for Leon?

Leon 08-31-2012 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainier2004 (Post 1032302)
So is that a special rate for Leon?

Yeah, only 2x the actual cost....(including insurance)

In their defense they have worked with me, time wise, quite a bit on paying off some lots I have won.

E93 08-31-2012 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte (Post 1032229)
Jim- Are you picking another impossible set to collect? Great card.

I hope not, but I sure like them a lot! :)
JimB

sportscardpete 08-31-2012 09:31 AM

I was an underbidder on the CJ Cobb. Really wanted that but couldn't pull the trigger at the price. This is a nice hobby - when you lose, you end up with a lot of money in your pocket :)

mansco 08-31-2012 10:02 AM

2 Attachment(s)
I got lucky with these two and some HOF 33 Goudeys. Does anyone know how long Legendary takes to ship?

mcap100176 08-31-2012 10:07 AM

My shipping cost on the 1975 Topps mini set is $21.54

bobbyw8469 08-31-2012 10:18 AM

I am unsure how everyone is knowing their shipping costs, when the "invoice" button is apparantly not active. Are invoices available, and if they are, is ev eryone's "invoice" button active?

cubsfan-budman 08-31-2012 10:19 AM

i got an email with my invoice.

for one card, my shipping was $18.

atx840 08-31-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportscardpete (Post 1032313)
I was an underbidder on the CJ Cobb. Really wanted that but couldn't pull the trigger at the price. This is a nice hobby - when you lose, you end up with a lot of money in your pocket :)

+1

But how do you get over the sickening feeling of regret for not picking up a card when it was likely your one shot, or at least the optimal opportunity......can't get over the brown Lenox(s) I passed up, still bummed :(

BLAH!

Runscott 08-31-2012 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1032288)
Yes I'm disappointed the smart ass comment was retracted as well... I can only hope what comes around goes around!

Basically I just said that maybe they were using the excess shipping fees to help pay for court costs.

My $209 7x9 photo cost $19.86 to ship. Quite excessive, but I knew in advance that it would be.

Robextend 08-31-2012 11:29 AM

My shipping cost was $22.55...not bad for 2 complete topps sets.

bobbyw8469 08-31-2012 11:38 AM

My shipping costs were a shade under $30 for 11 PSA graded cards.

sycks22 08-31-2012 11:52 AM

$62 to ship a couple cards. Love the N162 Brouthers

Exhibitman 08-31-2012 12:02 PM

Let me get this down: $19.86 to ship a single $300 item? Oh, wait! I got a better idea. Instead of that, how about I send you a hobo's **** cheese?

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...grossman_1.jpg

In the mean time and as usual, go **** yourself.

pcoz 08-31-2012 03:07 PM

W600 Wagner
 
Went way cheap at 19k. A SGC 50 a couple yrs back went for 52k. Someone stole this!

Matthew H 08-31-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcoz (Post 1032407)
Went way cheap at 19k. A SGC 50 a couple yrs back went for 52k. Someone stole this!

That same card sold in a B&L auction for 20k. I think it's overgraded. The stain detracts from the card.

pcoz 08-31-2012 06:36 PM

W600 Wagner
 
Good point

E93 08-31-2012 09:47 PM

mansco,
That Brouthers is gorgeous! Great pickup!
JimB

jcmtiger 08-31-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcap100176 (Post 1032322)
My shipping cost on the 1975 Topps mini set is $21.54



Yes, weight costs you money

jcmtiger 08-31-2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman (Post 1032326)
i got an email with my invoice.

for one card, my shipping was $18.

Does that include insurance?

jcmtiger 08-31-2012 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1032340)
Basically I just said that maybe they were using the excess shipping fees to help pay for court costs.

My $209 7x9 photo cost $19.86 to ship. Quite excessive, but I knew in advance that it would be.




Insurance $5.00 shipping $5.00 , about $9.00 too much.

jcmtiger 08-31-2012 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1032348)
My shipping costs were a shade under $30 for 11 PSA graded cards.

If cards were expenxive , not excessive. Joe

jcmtiger 08-31-2012 09:58 PM

As you can see from my posts, I think everyone should consider the insurance and weight of cards.

Joe

bobfreedman 08-31-2012 10:48 PM

Shipping
 
As the owner of the software company that powers Legendary's web site and shipping calculator, I can tell you accurately, how it is done.

We base the shipping fee based on three data points;

1. weight,
2. value of the invoice
3. zip code of the ship to address.

Once, those data points are supplied, our software bases the shipping costs by going to the shippers database (USPS, DHL, UPS or FedEx). Legendary will then provide to the shipper the method of shipment (i.e. For FedEx it may be Next Day overnight or Ground by UPS). All of this is done automatically, and using actual shipping costs.

I hope this helps and, if the shipping costs are too high, I urge you to call Legendary and ask them to have a look at the issue as they have always been reasonable when approached.

terjung 08-31-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobfreedman (Post 1032527)
As the owner of the software company that powers Legendary's web site and shipping calculator, I can tell you accurately, how it is done.

We base the shipping fee based on three data points;

1. weight,
2. value of the invoice
3. zip code of the ship to address.

Once, those data points are supplied, our software bases the shipping costs by going to the shippers database (USPS, DHL, UPS or FedEx). Legendary will then provide to the shipper the method of shipment (i.e. For FedEx it may be Next Day overnight or Ground by UPS). All of this is done automatically, and using actual shipping costs.

I hope this helps and, if the shipping costs are too high, I urge you to call Legendary and ask them to have a look at the issue as they have always been reasonable when approached.

Interesting and helpful information. Thank you for posting that!

botn 08-31-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobfreedman (Post 1032527)
As the owner of the software company that powers Legendary's web site and shipping calculator, I can tell you accurately, how it is done.

We base the shipping fee based on three data points;

1. weight,
2. value of the invoice
3. zip code of the ship to address.

Once, those data points are supplied, our software bases the shipping costs by going to the shippers database (USPS, DHL, UPS or FedEx). Legendary will then provide to the shipper the method of shipment (i.e. For FedEx it may be Next Day overnight or Ground by UPS). All of this is done automatically, and using actual shipping costs.

I hope this helps and, if the shipping costs are too high, I urge you to call Legendary and ask them to have a look at the issue as they have always been reasonable when approached.

Bob,

Thanks for the explanation but I think people rather come here and bitch as opposed to trying to fix what they do not like. No fun writing something nice about someone. Let's just be happy Jeff L is not posting on this thread.

I think most auction houses charge too much for shipping but then again on eBay I have been forced into not being able to charge more than $3 to ship cards of any value or weight or suffer the wrath of a low DSR.

Greg

Jay Wolt 09-01-2012 06:10 AM

One way to combat people from complaining about excessive shipping is.... not to charge any!
Its not that radical of an idea, especially w/ the higher buyers premium.

I got topped on my Legendary bids, but I did win a lot from Baggers on Thursday.
It was free shipping if sending a payment via the mail, which I did. Sterling did the same thing.
And last year REA offered free shipping to winning bidders as well.
Hopefully more auctions houses will use this approach.

Exhibitman 09-01-2012 06:25 AM

Here's an idea: offer cheap people like me the option to use USPS. They could cram most of the items here into priority mail flat rate envelopes or small boxes with delivery and/or signature confirmations and private insurance at half the price of a private carrier.

And don't give me that nonsense about pilferage. UPS is far worse than USPS for theft. I ship and receive hundreds of collectibles every year via USPS and I've had maybe one or two items go missing over the years, and one of them was an overseas shipment sent registered that went missing in the customs house in NY. And if you don't want USPS insurance I know for a fact that private insurers cover USPS shipping as long as there is a tracking method, because I have it.

cubsfan-budman 09-01-2012 06:56 AM

Quote:

We base the shipping fee based on three data points;

1. weight,
2. value of the invoice
3. zip code of the ship to address.
seems unlikely that these are the only three points that influence the price of shipping, imho. i ship a ton of stuff and receive a ton of stuff. I just sent 2 baseballs to a guy and it was under 10 dollars. one graded card for 18 dollars is silly.

from legendaryauctions.com:

Quote:

21. All invoices include shipping and insurance charges. The shipping charge is based on calculated FedEx Ground service (with signature required) and includes a $5 handling fee. The insurance is calculated based on the value of the material, 30¢ per $100, and adjusted after each $1,000 increment to the next $1,000 level. Therefore, $1,000 invoice has an insurance charge of $3, and an invoice over $1,000 has an insurance charge of $6, and so on.

calvindog 09-01-2012 07:40 AM

Guys, the top execs of Legendary are under indictment for ripping you off for more than your shipping costs -- I'd be less concerned about losing a few bucks down that avenue.

Sorry to ruin all the fun.

Leon 09-01-2012 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1032569)
Guys, the top execs of Legendary are under indictment for ripping you off for more than your shipping costs -- I'd be less concerned about losing a few bucks down that avenue.

Sorry to ruin all the fun.

Party-pooper.


.

batsballsbases 09-01-2012 08:47 AM

poop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1032569)
Guys, the top execs of Legendary are under indictment for ripping you off for more than your shipping costs -- I'd be less concerned about losing a few bucks down that avenue.

Sorry to ruin all the fun.

Jeez Jeff that just ruined my whole day!;);)

Exhibitman 09-01-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1032569)
Guys, the top execs of Legendary are under indictment for ripping you off for more than your shipping costs -- I'd be less concerned about losing a few bucks down that avenue.

Sorry to ruin all the fun.

Yes but it still hurts.

joeadcock 09-01-2012 11:37 AM

Great concept.


Quote:

Originally Posted by sportscardpete (Post 1032313)
I was an underbidder on the CJ Cobb. Really wanted that but couldn't pull the trigger at the price. This is a nice hobby - when you lose, you end up with a lot of money in your pocket :)


Leon 09-02-2012 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botn (Post 1032540)
Bob,

Thanks for the explanation but I think people rather come here and bitch as opposed to trying to fix what they do not like. No fun writing something nice about someone. Let's just be happy Jeff L is not posting on this thread.

I think most auction houses charge too much for shipping but then again on eBay I have been forced into not being able to charge more than $3 to ship cards of any value or weight or suffer the wrath of a low DSR.

Greg



I agree Greg. I think, for many, it's more fun to bitch than try to get resolution. While Legendary certainly has some issues that look to be far more important/serious than potentially a few extra dollars on shipping and handling, I feel I must at least put in a good word for Doug and gang concerning shipping charges. The few times I thought mine were out of whack and called Doug (or Legendary otherwise) I have always been taken care of as to what I expected. They have always been very accommodating operationally speaking. I would be remiss if I didn't at least say they have always taken care of my concerns to my satisfaction. I personally like all of the folks I know at Legendary and hope the whole debacle of indictments and court cases will be over with in the near term (even though I know that probably won't happen) and we can get back to the great hobby of collecting our little gems. I also appreciate the fact the authorities are continuing to have an eye on the hobby. Long story short, Legendary/Mastro has always been one of my favorite auction houses and have always bent over backwards to help me. (again, I realize the other issues at hand and if bad stuff took place, well, that will be taken care of too)

GaryPassamonte 09-02-2012 09:13 AM

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Condition problems. Nonetheless, an interesting team.

Joe_G. 09-02-2012 09:25 AM

Gary,

I very much like that CDV, great early team picture. The presence of Hardy Richardson is what I most like about it. Enjoy it!

teetwoohsix 09-02-2012 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1032556)
Here's an idea: offer cheap people like me the option to use USPS. They could cram most of the items here into priority mail flat rate envelopes or small boxes with delivery and/or signature confirmations and private insurance at half the price of a private carrier.

And don't give me that nonsense about pilferage. UPS is far worse than USPS for theft. I ship and receive hundreds of collectibles every year via USPS and I've had maybe one or two items go missing over the years, and one of them was an overseas shipment sent registered that went missing in the customs house in NY. And if you don't want USPS insurance I know for a fact that private insurers cover USPS shipping as long as there is a tracking method, because I have it.

+1

e107collector 09-02-2012 09:27 AM

Legendary
 
Leon, well said.

I too, have only good things to say about Legendary/Mastro. I'm sure if you called their office, and questioned the shipping fee, they can at least review the amount for you. It's possible it may have been a computer error.

In 2007, when I won the Lionel Carter E90-2 set from Mastro, I asked Doug Allen as to why the cards weren't slabbed by SGC or pedigreed with Lionel's name. They were being sold raw. He told me that it may have been an oversight, and Mastro sent the entire set to SGC for me to have each card graded and pedigreed at no cost! That is great customer service in my book!

Tony

Runscott 09-02-2012 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1032780)
I agree Greg. I think, for many, it's more fun to bitch than try to get resolution. While Legendary certainly has some issues that look to be far more important/serious than potentially a few extra dollars on shipping and handling, I feel I must at least put in a good word for Doug and gang concerning shipping charges. The few times I thought mine were out of whack and called Doug (or Legendary otherwise) I have always been taken care of as to what I expected. They have always been very accommodating operationally speaking. I would be remiss if I didn't at least say they have always taken care of my concerns to my satisfaction. I personally like all of the folks I know at Legendary and hope the whole debacle of indictments and court cases will be over with in the near term (even though I know that probably won't happen) and we can get back to the great hobby of collecting our little gems. I also appreciate the fact the authorities are continuing to have an eye on the hobby. Long story short, Legendary/Mastro has always been one of my favorite auction houses and have always bent over backwards to help me. (again, I realize the other issues at hand and if bad stuff took place, well, that will be taken care of too)

Agreed that Doug always takes care of things when called - all you've said mirrors my experiences with Doug/Legendary. I enjoy their auctions, I respect the huge concerns that some have, and I'll keep bidding.

The issue is not their customer service, and not just Legendary, but rather that almost all auction houses send out invoices with ridiculous shipping charges. I could list several that have sent such invoices, just as blatantly ridiculous, and that I've called and gotten quick resolution. So what? It's still an unnecessary hassle for BOTH sides. Eliminate this problem, save some money on processing complaints, use that money to improve your company...unless the extra shipping is being construed as a revenue area. I'm guessing the lost customers and complaint-processing probably kills such extra revenue.

When you have hard revenue at odds with intangibles such as loss of customers and increased cost of processing complaints, it usually means that at least two different departments are involved, with conflicting goals. I ran into this for 30 years working for large US companies - it's a rampant problem.

If an auction house is using software to do the shipping calculations, and it's coming up with ludicrous estimates, then they should consider replacing their software (not just Legendary, but apparently all of them). Seriously, $19.86 to ship a single 7X9 $210 photo is ridiculous, and such a number, if spit out by a computer program, would have me checking out the code. There could easily be a subroutine to use size, weight, and value to calculate a 'reasonable' number, and if that number varies by more than X% from the calculated actual, add it to an exception report.

Again, not just Legendary. I've gotten tired of calling auction houses over high shipping, and won't be doing it as often (if at all). Instead, I factor the extra shipping into my bidding - in this case, it did not matter because I got what I considered to be a great deal. Also, Legendary shipping is not generally so out-of-line when lots are heavier and more valuable.

Finally, I realize that Legendary has bigger things on their plate, and that the telephone or email is the way to solve the problem at the moment.

Okay, rip my post apart :)

Runscott 09-02-2012 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe_G. (Post 1032790)
Gary,

I very much like that CDV, great early team picture. The presence of Hardy Richardson is what I most like about it. Enjoy it!

+1 - my favorite affordable item in the auction. Really hem'd and haw'd about bidding on that one.

Jlighter 09-02-2012 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e107collector (Post 1032792)
Leon, well said.

I too, have only good things to say about Legendary/Mastro. I'm sure if you called their office, and questioned the shipping fee, they can at least review the amount for you. It's possible it may have been a computer error.

In 2007, when I won the Lionel Carter E90-2 set from Mastro, I asked Doug Allen as to why the cards weren't slabbed by SGC or pedigreed with Lionel's name. They were being sold raw. He told me that it may have been an oversight, and Mastro sent the entire set to SGC for me to have each card graded and pedigreed at no cost! That is great customer service in my book!

Tony

While that is good customer service, you did spend a Decent amount of money on, like a dozen cards. I'm also sure Legendary gets a great grading deal, so it wasn't a big deal on their part.

Just saying.

ullmandds 09-02-2012 10:09 AM

Scott...i agree with you 100%. Why should i have to call in the first place?

Not to say this is the case...but...if a business decides to overcharge everyone by 5%(arbitrary #) and when someone complains...they say "oops...must have been a glitch in the computer system!". And the mass majority who dont complain...get screwed. Not good business practice imo.


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