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t206hound 08-01-2012 11:15 AM

Share your 2012 National photos!
 
The National starts today, and I will be attending for the first time tomorrow. There will be many on the board who won't be making it to Charm City, so let's give them the chance to see what this event is all about!

Jcfowler6 08-01-2012 11:32 AM

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kdixon 08-01-2012 02:07 PM

Jealous here
 
Wishing I was there. Hopefully next year I can make it.

bh3443 08-01-2012 03:37 PM

post pics of members!
 
I'd love to see pics of our members especially one of our fearless leader, Leon!
Hoping you all are having a fun and successful show!
Regards,
Bill Hedin

g_vezina_c55 08-01-2012 03:43 PM

any T206 wagner or plank at the nats ?
Thanks to all for share picture !

ruth-gehrig 08-01-2012 06:49 PM

Thanks for the pics! Have fun to all who are there:D

Jcfowler6 08-01-2012 08:05 PM

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Attachment 70395Always look under the price sticker. Rookie mistake!

4815162342 08-01-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcfowler6 (Post 1021197)
Attachment 70395Always look under the price sticker. Rookie mistake!

Aww man, the ole "hide the paper loss under the price sticker" ploy. I'm sorry that you got burned!

Matt 08-01-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcfowler6 (Post 1021197)
Attachment 70395Always look under the price sticker. Rookie mistake!

Take it back. If the dealer won't accept the return, let us know who it is.

mrvster 08-01-2012 09:27 PM

jon....
 
Jon,

Who is player??? i might be interested in that one:D

Jcfowler6 08-02-2012 05:10 AM

Tommy Leach portrait.

Bill Stone 08-02-2012 05:20 AM

Sure would appreciate seeing some T210s --are the newly discovered Jacksons at the National? Have fun and thanks in advance.

atx840 08-02-2012 10:01 AM

Not my pic, nice to see the only known example has some great eye appeal.

http://i.imgur.com/a6an3.jpg

barrysloate 08-02-2012 10:24 AM

I wonder who is going to end up with the Red Hindu Murphy...;)

ullmandds 08-02-2012 10:29 AM

prepare the stacks of funny money!

GasHouseGang 08-02-2012 11:31 AM

There's a pretty good walk around tour that was posted by someone on YouTube. I don't know who posted it, but here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nde6bjMY9K0

wonkaticket 08-02-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1021315)
I wonder who is going to end up with the Red Hindu Murphy...;)

LOL, guess I'm under the shill cross hairs huh?

rc4157 08-02-2012 11:56 AM

Thanks for the link to the National you tube video, wish I was there. I'll get back to one of these someday!
RC

barrysloate 08-02-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1021339)
LOL, guess I'm under the shill cross hairs huh?

Hey John, I want it too, and am prepared to go as high as $400 to get it!!

atx840 08-02-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1021339)
LOL, guess I'm under the shill cross hairs huh?

I really hope not John, you deserve this card!

36GoudeyMan 08-02-2012 12:07 PM

Black Swamp Find
 
After seeing the stacks and stacks of insanely high grade E98s from the Black Swamp find, I just wonder what is going to happen to the E98 market?? Is there enough demand to absorb all those high-grade cards?? Does the market for lower grade examples collapse? The whole E98 market?

barrysloate 08-02-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 36GoudeyMan (Post 1021354)
After seeing the stacks and stacks of insanely high grade E98s from the Black Swamp find, I just wonder what is going to happen to the E98 market?? Is there enough demand to absorb all those high-grade cards?? Does the market for lower grade examples collapse? The whole E98 market?

There's enough demand to absorb them all, but the price structure for high grade E98 will change. Lower grade ones will probably be a little softer, too.

White Borders 08-02-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1021352)
Hey John, I want it too, and am prepared to go as high as $400 to get it!!

It's only a PSA 2, which is certainly below John's standards, so it looks like the bidding will be between Barry and I. LOL!

(And I'm prepared to go to $401)


Best Regards and Happy Collecting :)
Craig

barrysloate 08-02-2012 12:29 PM

If I were John I would wait for an upgrade...it's got a crease!

Matthew H 08-02-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1021358)
There's enough demand to absorb them all, but the price structure for high grade E98 will change. Lower grade ones will probably be a little softer, too.

Barry, was there a high grade e98 market before this find? I have seen much beyond EX ( other than that green set)

Bosox Blair 08-02-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 1021336)
There's a pretty good walk around tour that was posted by someone on YouTube. I don't know who posted it, but here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nde6bjMY9K0

Thanks for posting that!

Cheers,
Blair

barrysloate 08-02-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew H (Post 1021365)
Barry, was there a high grade e98 market before this find? I have seen much beyond EX ( other than that green set)

There really weren't many high grade cards known at all. Maybe a few 7's, but certainly no 9's or 10's. Now they are relatively common. That said, the whole group will still find their way into collections.

Jcfowler6 08-02-2012 01:07 PM

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The guy gave me no hassle and the choice of partial or total refund on the hidden paper loss. He apologized and said he didn't realize it was under the sticker. Either way I got it at actual value now so I am happy. Attachment 70422Attachment 70423

phlflyer1 08-02-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1021369)
There really weren't many high grade cards known at all. Maybe a few 7's, but certainly no 9's or 10's. Now they are relatively common. That said, the whole group will still find their way into collections.

Hi Barry <a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php" title="Smiley"><img src="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fc/funny.gif" alt="Smiley" border="0" /></a>

http://sgccardregistry.com/cards/us36353.jpg

barrysloate 08-02-2012 01:16 PM

Hi Scott- Oops! I forgot about your set. Sorry.:o

But other than yours, weren't high grade E98's almost nonexistent (pre- Black Swamp, of course).

Matthew H 08-02-2012 01:20 PM

I'd look at the black swamp find as the only high grade e98 market. Before there was a mid grade market.

Lets say last year you could get a cobb in ex for around 6k, after the find, if you have 6k you're probably still going to compete for an ex example.

phlflyer1 08-02-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 1021378)
Hi Scott- Oops! I forgot about your set. Sorry.:o

But other than yours, weren't high grade E98's almost nonexistent (pre- Black Swamp, of course).

You are 100% correct, Barry... just havin some fun with you since I happened to check in on the board and saw your post. :)

Thanks to all who are posting photos from this years National on the thread. It is much appreciated since it looks like I'm not going to be able to make it down there this weekend.

tbob 08-02-2012 02:04 PM

I enjoyed the video of the 1st day of the National but it looks like attendance is really down :( I know it is just the first day but it looked kind of sparse.
On the E98s, other than Scott's mind blowing set, I considered my E98 set of 5s a "high grade set." Now that is out the window with the Black Swamp Find. I still think low and mid grade E98s will continue to hold steady, just my 2 cents, regardless of how high or not so high the blazers from the Find go for. I do think the gap between E98s and E94s, however, will continue to escalate. The E94s have become very scarce, especially in nice condition....

barrysloate 08-02-2012 02:17 PM

Bob- E98's in a 5 are now scarcer than those graded 8 or 9. Kind of a bizarro world.

dstudeba 08-02-2012 02:40 PM

Great to see you Scott!

Thanks for the pictures and updates everyone!

t206hound 08-02-2012 04:05 PM

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Here's a few I took today. Had a great time even though I only picked up four cards. Walked around with AG and Mike Healer for awhile. Met Chris buckler and pup6913. Also chatted with bowlingshoegiverouterguy and Leon. Looked through some of Dan McKee's cards (thanks Dan)! Spoke to zubes about the blue old mill. Also got to meet Brian Dwyer. Sent about three dozen texts to Chris Browne. Bought a card from Ted Z. Great day except that my Gilbert missing red ink still isn't slabbed :(

Here's earl writing me up to no avail
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Ty Cobb back
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Terrible picture of a t206 set
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A couple of low dollar cards
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My purchases (and a S350 Chase Blue)
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atx840 08-02-2012 04:22 PM

Thanks for your help today Erick, great pickups!

Davy_Kangaroo_Jones 08-02-2012 05:07 PM

State of the hobby could be in trouble with the attendance down year after year..

Seems that way at all card shows. Every year they are getting less traffic and smaller.

gorrister 08-02-2012 05:13 PM

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GasHouseGang 08-02-2012 05:31 PM

Did he buy it or just get to hold it?;)

gorrister 08-02-2012 05:50 PM

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He got to hold it and a $250,000 Babe Ruth bat. Can't afford either, but it's fun to dream.
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Micky Mantle batting helmet.

g_vezina_c55 08-02-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gorrister (Post 1021472)

verry cool pic !

Bosox Blair 08-02-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy_Kangaroo_Jones (Post 1021469)
State of the hobby could be in trouble with the attendance down year after year..

IMO this is not a good indicator of the state of the hobby. The way people do business has changed - the internet through its auctions and stores are the way now. Declining show attendance is a false indicator. (Similar to saying that the closure of 511 Borders stores shows people don't read anymore...nope...they just get their reading material from more modern sources, including the internet).

Howe’s Hunter 08-02-2012 07:50 PM

Erick, about all those Hindu backs
 
are those all t206s? My old eyes can't really tell. But that would be one large collection of Hindu backs all in one place. wow.

leftygrove10 08-02-2012 07:52 PM

Oriole Park at Camden Yards....
 
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Oriole Park at Camden Yards is just a stone's throw from the Convention Center in Baltimore where the National is being held. I walked over to the stadium this morning to look around. The stadium was empty and the sprinklers were going. A rare site indeed, so I snapped a picture. Gotta love it!

t206hound 08-02-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by StuckInOmaha (Post 1021549)
are those all t206s? My old eyes can't really tell. But that would be one large collection of Hindu backs all in one place. wow.

A hoard of red Hindu. Can't remember which auction house had them.

AndyG09 08-02-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by t206hound (Post 1021560)
A hoard of red Hindu. Can't remember which auction house had them.

Pretty sure it was SCP.

Ed,

No Howe's to be had so far. Lots of stacks of 206s looked at, but to no avail.

Erick, great time today bro. Sorry you didn't get squared away on the missing red ink. I still can't see it.

ag

t206blogcom 08-02-2012 08:50 PM

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I picked up a couple of Hindu Southern Leaguers and passed on a few others. The E98s - Black Swamp Find - are simply gorgeous. Ran into fellow net54 member Larrie Dean and met Leon for the first time (thx for the shirt!). Heading back up tomorrow for the day and sticking around for the Net54 dinner - hope to meet as many of you as possible.

A couple pics from the show:

Jcfowler6 08-02-2012 08:51 PM

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CobbSpikedMe 08-02-2012 09:01 PM

I'm not a big T206 back collector, so it's interesting to me to see so many of them slabbed by PSA with the back showing on the front of the slab like the ones in Jason's post.

Is this something you just have to ask PSA to do when you submit them? They look pretty cool that way, especially the Cobb back.

Thanks,

AndyH

thekingofclout 08-03-2012 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosox Blair (Post 1021528)
IMO this is not a good indicator of the state of the hobby. The way people do business has changed - the internet through its auctions and stores are the way now. Declining show attendance is a false indicator. (Similar to saying that the closure of 511 Borders stores shows people don't read anymore...nope...they just get their reading material from more modern sources, including the internet).

You're spot-on Blair.

Jcfowler6 08-03-2012 05:19 AM

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Ball boys

Frank A 08-03-2012 07:53 AM

If those photo's were during business hours it looks like a small crowd.

t206hound 08-03-2012 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank A (Post 1021666)
If those photo's were during business hours it looks like a small crowd.

Yesterday was my first national, so I have nothing to compare it too. But in my opinion, there weren't many people there. I'm guessing it was because it was Thursday and there were very few autograph signers. I'd expect it to pick up the rest of the week.

That said, I spoke to a handful of dealers and all said they were doing well. One dealer in particular said that he already had his best National and he'd been doing it for ten years. His sales were mostly on signed memorabilia as I recall.

Copa7 08-03-2012 08:18 AM

2012 National - Baltimore
 
Nice to get a glimpse of the show. Thanks to those that posted pictures.

Would be nice to see more memorabilia.

atx840 08-03-2012 10:05 AM

Next to the Ty Cobb back is one of the brown OM overprints. Could someone take a better pic of it? :D

Jcfowler6 08-03-2012 11:42 AM

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jbsports33 08-03-2012 01:24 PM

Share your 2012 National photos!
 
Thanks for the info and pictures

enjoy the show!

Jimmy

GasHouseGang 08-03-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Copa7 (Post 1021678)
Nice to get a glimpse of the show. Thanks to those that posted pictures.

Would be nice to see more memorabilia.

Watch the video link I posted earlier. It shows quite a bit of the memorabilia.

Jcfowler6 08-03-2012 05:41 PM

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Jlighter 08-03-2012 06:00 PM

Awful lot of bald spots in there

Matthew H 08-03-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jlighter (Post 1021917)
Awful lot of bald spots in there

I only see four

almostdone 08-03-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew H (Post 1021924)
I only see four

That's because I couldn't attend. Rats!!
Drew

Seiklis 08-03-2012 06:41 PM

Looking like fun, will definitely have to make some plans next year

That is if the Indians don't kill me first

Rob D. 08-03-2012 06:48 PM

RIP, Jack.

Seiklis 08-03-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob D. (Post 1021936)
RIP, Jack.

Heh yea at this point I just want them to bring up as many new players as possible so I have more names to add to my 2012 card list

Team has quit on Acta though unless they finally gut Shapiro and his flunkies not going to make a bit of difference

Jlighter 08-03-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew H (Post 1021924)
I only see four

Plus at least four hats.:D

Rob D. 08-03-2012 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Seiklis (Post 1021939)
Heh yea at this point I just want them to bring up as many new players as possible so I have more names to add to my 2012 card list

Team has quit on Acta though unless they finally gut Shapiro and his flunkies not going to make a bit of difference

Agreed. Tough to watch right now.

btcarfagno 08-04-2012 07:46 AM

Made it to my first National. Say hello if you see me in my dorky Clemente shirt Pirates hat and net54 pin. Not that the net54 pin is dorky...

Tom C

t206blogcom 08-04-2012 08:24 AM

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Two Hindu SLers, two auto balls (Snider, Killebrew) and a whole lot of 80s wax (mindless entertainment).

tbob 08-04-2012 09:29 AM

Lots of T206s but did anyone pick up any caramel cards from the E90-1, E92, E93, E94, E95, E96, E97, E98, E99, E100 sets? Were there any there? Prices? Especially curious about the E94s and E98s (in light of the Swamp Find).

ullmandds 08-04-2012 09:34 AM

Bob...my 6th sense tells me there were no e94's...other than the ones that have been rotating on and off ebay...and the few e98's present...besides the swamp find...were grossly...grossly overpriced!!!!!

Runscott 08-04-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jcfowler6 (Post 1021738)

Jon, that cabinet of the three Pirates looks like it could have come from the same estate I got all of mine from.

Bicem 08-04-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy_Kangaroo_Jones (Post 1021469)
State of the hobby could be in trouble with the attendance down year after year..

Seems that way at all card shows. Every year they are getting less traffic and smaller.

traffic seemed pretty strong to me, in comparison to the last few years.

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...size/crowd.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...bsize/line.jpg

x2drich2000 08-04-2012 05:21 PM

Bob, I can't comment on the E94 or E98 since I wasn't looking for them. I was specifically looking for E93's to build my set. I was especially hoping to find a poor/fair Cobb or Wagner, but had no luck. In general, there was not a huge selection. I don't remember seeing any of Chance and only a single example of several other cards. Prices in general were above recent auctions, but you could talk dealers down below the current buy it now prices. I ended up with a Leach (SGC 40), Jones (SGC 20) and Mathewson (SGC A - blank back).

DJ

ullmandds 08-04-2012 05:27 PM

apparently I was wrong! there was atleast 1...violet...cobb there!!!:o

yanks12025 08-04-2012 05:51 PM

Why don't dealers put prices on anything, I only found acouple with prices.

4815162342 08-04-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tbob (Post 1022132)
Lots of T206s but did anyone pick up any caramel cards from the E90-1, E92, E93, E94, E95, E96, E97, E98, E99, E100 sets? Were there any there? Prices? Especially curious about the E94s and E98s (in light of the Swamp Find).

The T-E ratio had to be 100-1 or more.


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