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Please Show your Type 1 Red Cross (T215-1) & Coupons (T213-1)
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T213 & T215's anyone ? I miss the show em threads and realize this is a narrow focused request, but would love to see anyone out there who would want to share their Type 1 Red Cross or Coupon's. (These seem to fall in the shadows of T206 and don't get discussed or shared enough imho) Show em if you got em ! Thanks, J
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Jeremy, you've seen it before, but the only Coupon I have left and no Red Cross.
http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/ho...ers-Coupon.jpg |
Love this issue...
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A few...
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Here's a Red Cross like you wanted, I think....
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...Tportraits.jpg http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...raitsbacks.jpg Reckon there's a type 1 Coupon I could afford that would add to this group? Huggins reminds me of Feris Bueller, a bit... |
Here's the Type 1 Huggins
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as a type collector
As a type collector I can usually play in the "show me" reindeer games....I don't own the T215-1 Griffith any longer.
http://luckeycards.com/pt2131mattyandcobb.jpg http://luckeycards.com/pt2151x2.jpg |
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another RC Type 1
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1910 "COUPON"..........T213-2..........T213-3
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...cleanchase.jpg http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...leanchaseb.jpg T-Rex TED |
Ted Breitenstein ...... " C-H-O-P " subset
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<a href="http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/zouraspm/my%20collection/?action=view&current=t215f-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/zouraspm/my%20collection/t215f-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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All of these are a little rough, but I'm still happy to own them. "Coupon" is one of my favorite T206 backs. ;)
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Thanks for sharing...
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Many beautiful Coupons & RC's ! Thanks for sharing... (Keep em coming) I always find it interesting to see a card in a slab with a 1 on it and it look as great as several that are being shown. Here's one with a 2 grade that has 4 razor sharp corners... Not sure how this is a 2, but I will take the kid in the cubicle's slabbing word on it! ;) Great cards, guys !
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Hey Jeremy......re..1910 COUPON
So far here....we have 16 different Major Leaguer's on display....that leaves 32 to go in this set.
And, 5 different Southern Association guys on display......that leaves 15 to go in this set. Hey Net54er's, let's show some more of these rare T-cards. http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...ponsummers.jpg T-Rex TED |
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2909248907/" title="1910 Red Cross Tobacco T215-1 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3270/2909248907_5589e4df97_o.jpg" width="900" height="736" alt="1910 Red Cross Tobacco T215-1"></a>
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Byrne
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Byrne
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Rucker
John, what am I missing on the 213 Rucker ??
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Type 1 Coupon :
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Here ya go Ted... Add Dutch to your list....
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Sounds like a challenge Ted...
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Ok, a couple more...
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Coupon's
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Let's round out Ted's numbers to 20 on Major Leaguer's... Sweet hair from Matty...
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Leon - Thanks again for trading the T215-1 Griffith card to me and for showing it in this thread; my CCD scanner died recently, so I couldn't have taken a decent scan of it.
Here's my T213-1 type-card example: Val |
McIntyre
Is that McIntyre or Ace Ventura - Pet Detective?
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Hey Jeremy & Chris....I bet you have more of these 1910 COUPON cards
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...poncobb50x.jpg
So far here....we have 21 different Major Leaguer's on display....that leaves 27 to go in this set. And, 8 different Southern Association guys on display......that leaves 12 to go in this set. Hey Net54er's, how about showing us some more of these rare T-cards T-Rex TED |
Coupon's...
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Hey Ted - Whatever gave you that impression ? :rolleyes:
I wished a few other board members would step up and show em... I know a few that have a nice stash :D |
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T213-1
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T213-1
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I have a Myers, as well. Also have these two, from the B-L Auction last year.
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Hey Jeremy....re..1910 COUPON
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...1910coupon.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...1910coupon.jpg
Pretty good run of 1910 "COUPON" cards here. And, the following listed "COUPON" guys have yet to be posted. Major Leaguer's --------------- Campbell Chase (dark cap) Donovan (throwing) Doolan (fielding) Dubuc Dunn (Brooklyn) Fletcher Huggins (hands at mouth) Hunter Knabe LaPorte Lennox Marshall McElveen Mitchell (Cincinnati) Mowrey Paskert Rhoades (hands at chest) Schmidt (portrait) Starr Thomas Wilson Southern Association -------------------- Bay Bernhard Carey Ellam Fritz Greminger Hickman Perdue Persons Reagan TED Z |
Hart - LR
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Last Call....
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Mike "Turkey" Donlin.......one of my favorite guys pictured on one of my favorite COUPON cards.
Although his caption states...... ".300 batter 7 years" .....his career BA = .333 which was good enough for Donlin to be in the HOF. That's if he had taken his Major League BB career more seriously, instead of seeking an acting career in vaudeville and the movies. One thing is for certain, Donlin was the "toast of the town" in New York City, where all these White-Bordered cards were printed. http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...nDonlin300.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...Donlin300b.jpg TED Z |
Re: Please Show your Type 1 Red Cross (T215-1) & Coupons (T213-1)
I'm a little surprised by the 6:1 ratio (by my rough count) of T213 to T215 so far in this thread. It's far from a scientific survey, of course, but given the recent hype of Coupon 1s, I would have considered their scarcity level more in line with that of the Red Crosses.
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Red Cross and Coupon Type 1's are both rare cards. Extremely difficult to find... |
Fyi
For comparison sake, there are about twice as many Pirate backs graded as there are Type 2 Red Cross and there are less Type 1 Red Cross than Type 2's, so that should give you an idea of how rare these rascals are...
Also, a little further data from some research I did last year... I can only document on average 3 graded examples of each player in the Coupon Type 1 set. (Keep in mind this is graded examples from PSA, SGC & BVG) I am sure some raw Type 1's exist, but to put futher perspective on this, imagine if you were wanting a T206 Red Cobb, and there were only 3 or 4 examples ever graded. They would simply rarely come available for sale and prices would be intense. (I think I remember Leon crowing about how cheap he got his Type 1 Coupon Red Cobb last year, and I agree....) Something further to consider... How many Red Cobb Ty Cobb backs are there graded ? Now, take a peek at how many Red Cobb Type 1 Coupon's that are graded. The numbers are very interesting.... |
Red Cross
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Just received this yesterday. Pretty rough but that's OK.:)
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Carey T213-1
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I can help out with that!
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Nate - Thanks for sharing ! Strike Carey from the list & lets go ahead and take Hunter off as well : (Please Post your T213-1 on this list !)
Pretty good run of 1910 "COUPON" cards here. And, the following listed "COUPON" guys have yet to be posted. (Ted Z) Major Leaguer's (48) --------------- Campbell Chase (dark cap) Donovan (throwing) Doolan (fielding) Dubuc Dunn (Brooklyn) Fletcher Huggins (hands at mouth) Knabe LaPorte Lennox Marshall McElveen Mitchell (Cincinnati) Mowrey Paskert Rhoades (hands at chest) Schmidt (portrait) Starr Thomas Wilson Southern Association (20) -------------------- Bay Bernhard Ellam Fritz Greminger Hickman Perdue Persons Reagan |
Reagan
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Another rough one.
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T215 Bobby Byrne - Red Cross Type 1
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Always thought this one was under-graded (..then again, who doesn't think their cards are?)
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Here's a t215-I schulte.
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Here are a few T213-I's.
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I only have the one Red Cross Jennings, and at Coupon Type 1 Bender (which I can't get to upload for some reason).
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Here are my two, still need to add some Coupons to the collection-
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...einfeldt10.jpghttp://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...rcMeyers20.jpg |
nice jennings scott...i love it!!!
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I don't know much about Coupon and Red Cross cards, but I'm thinking the blue-lettering on your right-side card precludes it from being a Type 1.
Same for Ted Z's Mike Donlin card. Am I wrong about this? |
Scott...youre absolutely correct. Those type II's have no place in this thread.
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I have seen the blue-caption cards show up in a lot of 'Type 1' discussions, which had me wondering if I really understood the differences. I only have these two: the single Red Cross and a single Type 1 Coupon, so nothing to compare them to. Also, both of mine are slabbed, so the thinness aspect is lost on me as well (never held type 1's in hand). ...carry on. edited to add: When I initially picked up the Jennings, Leon had to tell me it was a Type 1, or I would not have known. The other confusing thing I've noticed is that when SGC puts the year range on these (either for Coupon or Red Cross), it doesn't always correspond to what I've seen called 'type 1, 2 or 3', so it must be confusing to them as well. |
t213-1
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Type 1 Update :
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With a couple of recent additons to this thread we have knocked off the T213-1 Chase Dark Cap & Regan SLer. Let's strike Doolan & Dubuc from the list as well. Also, some nice Type 1 Red Cross to boot. Thanks for sharing - keep em coming !
Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own : --------------- Campbell Donovan (throwing) Dunn (Brooklyn) Fletcher Huggins (hands at mouth) Knabe LaPorte Lennox Marshall McElveen Mitchell (Cincinnati) Mowrey Paskert Rhoades (hands at chest) Schmidt (portrait) Starr Thomas Wilson Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own : -------------------- Bay Bernhard Ellam Fritz Greminger Hickman Perdue Persons |
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One more T213 off the Jeremy / Ted Z Coupon list ...
Rob :) |
Type 1's.....
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Rob - Nice Thomas - Very clean, indeed.
Let's also strike Paskert from the list which I believe is more like very scarce rather than rare among the Coupon gang. Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own : --------------- Campbell Donovan (throwing) Dunn (Brooklyn) Fletcher Huggins (hands at mouth) Knabe LaPorte Lennox Marshall McElveen Mitchell (Cincinnati) Mowrey Rhoades (hands at chest) Schmidt (portrait) Starr Wilson Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own : -------------------- Bay Bernhard Ellam Fritz Greminger Hickman Perdue Persons |
Hey Jeremy....? for you
Why do so many of these 1910 COUPON cards have a repeated pattern of paper loss in the upper portion of their backs ?
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...willett25x.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...illett25xb.jpg Thanks Chris for this Willett. TED Z |
Ted Z...
Hey Ted,
Nice Willett ! I can't explain it, other than perhaps these cards all resided in the same ole time collector's hands and perhaps he stored them in a certain pattern and upon removal they all suffered the same fate. I do know this, there are some really nice Coupon's that have technical grades of 1 or 1.5. They look like 6's on the front, but have the paper loss. They look amazing and are in such beautiful shape (wrinkle free). |
Alright... I can add to my Huggins post back there. Thank you, Chris. Now I have a Huggins T213 type 1.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...6-13-13-15.jpg http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...13-15backs.jpg I know the idea of thinking of the type 1 Coupon cards being like T206's crops up. In a slab they look similar. Hold one in your hand and it is obvious that the type one cards are virtually on paper, not cardstock. The type 1's aren't at all like T206's. At least the slim American Beauty cards look like they were T206 size until a side was trimmed. Their thinness, their fragility, would be a contributing factor to there being few of the type 1 cards... |
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Leon suggested that I crack out a '14 CJ just so that I would know what they were really like (thinness mainly). I was kind of stunned - I now have a lot more respect for those that survived. |
Laporte
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Paper Thin Cards...
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Thanks to Andrew for posting a seldom seen type 1, LaPorte. The list is dwindling down, but we have a little ways to go... Post em if you got em... Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own : --------------- Campbell Donovan (throwing) Dunn (Brooklyn) Fletcher Huggins (hands at mouth) Knabe Lennox Marshall McElveen Mitchell (Cincinnati) Mowrey Rhoades (hands at chest) Schmidt (portrait) Starr Wilson Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own : -------------------- Bay Bernhard Ellam Fritz Greminger Hickman Perdue Persons |
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a couple more beauties
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Countdown...
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Jim & Marc,
Thanks for sharing your tough types! We are taking this list down, so I hope anyone else might be able to jump in and knock the remaining Type 1's off the list. Nice Bay Jim and a super tough player to find... Let's also strike these remaining 2 Cincy players that I recently owned... Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own : --------------- Campbell Donovan (throwing) Dunn (Brooklyn) Fletcher Knabe Lennox Marshall McElveen Rhoades (hands at chest) Schmidt (portrait) Starr Wilson Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own : -------------------- Bernhard Ellam Fritz Greminger Hickman Perdue Persons |
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T213-1 Lennox
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Lennox...
Thanks Craig ! Strike Lennox from the group.
Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own : --------------- Campbell Donovan (throwing) Dunn (Brooklyn) Fletcher Knabe Marshall McElveen Rhoades (hands at chest) Schmidt (portrait) Starr Wilson Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own : -------------------- Bernhard Ellam Fritz Greminger Hickman Perdue Persons |
Wilson (and friends)
Hi Jeremy,
You can strike Wilson, sort of - not pretty, but all there, mostly. He runs with better company, so to speak. http://photos.imageevent.com/gspinf/...ge/Other_1.jpg Be well. -- Mike |
Type 1 Coupons..
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for sharing your Wilson Coupon and lovely RC's as well ! (Wilson has been removed from the list...) Let's also strike off Marshall (I recently owned this card and traded it away...) Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own : --------------- Campbell Donovan (throwing) Dunn (Brooklyn) Fletcher Knabe McElveen Rhoades (hands at chest) Schmidt (portrait) Starr Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own : -------------------- Bernhard Ellam Fritz Greminger Hickman Perdue Persons |
Does anyone know if there is a t213-I of Donlin with the same pose as type II w/bat(caption or no caption).
Also if this pose is present in T215 I or II? Any help is appreciated! |
I think I found the answer! Assuming Ted's checklist of T213-I is accurate...there is no donlin in t213-I or t215-I...but maybe II?
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(1) There is no Donlin (bat) in the 1910 COUPON (T213-1) set. (2) There is a Donlin (bat) in the RED CROSS (T215-1) set (as my listing indicates). Please check-out the latter bit of info, again. TED Z |
thanks for clarification, Ted.
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